Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the key to Tom Brady’s short-term fate

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With the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit denying Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s request for a rehearing, his only recourse at this point is to file an appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court.

While Brady’s camp hasn’t said with clarity whether an appeal will be filed, attorney Ted Olson strongly hinted that Brady would take the case to the highest court in the land during a May 24 visit to PFT Live.

“We’ve decided that we’re not going to decide things until it’s necessary to decide them,” Olson said at the time. “So we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. . . . The Supreme Court is a definite possibility and we are all very, very much committed to seeing that Tom Brady gets the justice which he is owed in this case, whatever it takes.”

Seeking justice will include seeking a stay of the suspension from Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the member of the U.S. Supreme Court designated to handle cases arising from the Second Circuit. If an appeal is filed, she’ll inevitably be asked to maintain the status quo until the Supreme Court decides whether to take up the case. (The Supreme Court agrees to take only a very small fraction of the cases presented to it.)

Here’s where it gets very interesting — and potential very political. Ordinarily, Justice Ginsburg’s ideology and philosophies ordinarily would make her more likely than not to grant the stay. In this case, however, there’s a potential complication. His name is Donald Trump.

Brady has made no bones about his friendship with Trump. And Justice Ginsburg has made no bones about her disdain for Trump.

He is a faker,” Justice Ginsburg said earlier this week about Trump. “He has no consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head at the moment. He really has an ego. … How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns? The press seems to be very gentle with him on that.”

Said Brady in December: “Donald is a good friend of mine. I have known him for a long time. I support all my friends. That is what I have to say. He’s a good friend of mine.”

To complete the loop, here’s what Brady’s “good friend” said about Ginsburg early Wednesday morning on (where else?) Twitter: “Justice Ginsburg of the U.S. Supreme Court has embarrassed all by making very dumb political statements about me. Her mind is shot — resign!”

Should any of that matter to whether Justice Ginsburg grants a stay? No. Do issues like that sometimes creep into the matters pending in federal appeals courts presided over by judges who wouldn’t have gotten those jobs in the first place if they weren’t adept at playing political games during their careers?

I think the question answers itself.

156 responses to “Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the key to Tom Brady’s short-term fate

  1. Brady should change his last name to Clinton and suddenly no rules will apply. What a banana republic.

  2. What does she think about Billary and the Clinton Foundation?

    I’m sure she has no comment.

  3. Do we have to keep talking about the election around here? Sometimes it’s fun to think about football specifically so you DON’T have to think about stuff that matters, just for a little while.

  4. Yes, because SCOTUS has nothing better to do than hear an appeal about Deflategate…

  5. Ginsburg is a disgrace to the robe she wears with these illegal statements.

    She should be removed from her job.

    America would be better off.

  6. What a joke.

    Fraudger Goodell’s tentacles spread deep and wide like a cancer infecting a body.

    He needs to be brought up on corruption charges.
    He and his little Fairytale of Framegate is a fraud and you all know it.

    See you in the AFCCG haters.
    May your team be lucky enough to have their dreams crushed yet again by Brady and the Pats and be summarily dismissed from SB contention by the last NFL Dynasty;

    The New England Patriots

  7. Maybe it won’t have anything to do with Trump. Maybe it will be because this isn’t important enough for the Supreme Court to bother with.

  8. Ginsberg knows that she can’t resign or die during a Trump presidency or her dreams of a progressive utopia are crushed. I don’t think she really cares about Tom Brady, football, or his relationship with Trump.

  9. The one thing he’s got going for him is that these liberal supreme court judges completely follow their idology rather than the law. They have their preferred outcome, and will warp and stretch “the law” until it’s kinda, sorta, maybe plausible that it might make sense.

    Her ideology is pro-worker/ union so he should have a good shot despite her disdain for Trump.

    Also, this past week I’ve been told by Clinton, Loretta Lynch, and the FBI that politics NEVER enter the equation innregards to the law so therefore that must be true. Because they said so…

  10. racerx1225 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 10:51 AM

    Ginsburg is a disgrace to the robe she wears with these illegal statements.

    She should be removed from her job.

    America would be better off.

    RIGHT… Justice Thomas is such a legal brain power. NOT! What school did you attend to declare her statements are illegal? Please show us your knowledge of legal statues by pointing us to the direction that says exercising her first amendment right is illegal? It may have been inappropriate, but NOT illegal. Rise of the stupid class and social media at it’s best. Use facts.

  11. If Brady isn’t hated enough NOW he wants to waste the Supreme Court’s time with this nonsense?

  12. The true question about Ginsberg’s involvement: Which action will generate the most votes against Trump?

    The answer: Granting a stay will insure New England fans vote against Trump.

    The action: She grants the stay to try to insure that the Pats fans vote for Hillary, legal issues do not matter.

    #PatsfansforHillary

  13. If Ginsberg has a shred of professionalism in her being, she’ll disregard any and all Donald Trump nonsense and do her damn job the way she would normally based on the merits and evidence of the case.

    If she does that, then Brady will absolutely be on the field for all 16 as Fraudgers case is an embarrassment to even 5 years olds who have learned wrong from right.

  14. Brady does not need to win the case in the Supreme Court, all he needs is for them to agree to take a look at it.

    Then they’ll grant a stay on the suspension until the case is reviewed. And with so many more pressing matters on their agenda, who knows when that might be?

    Brady will be on the field of play Week 1.

  15. Arbitration is legally not:
    1) Introducing fresh evidence (phone) then denying defense of it (logs).
    2) Denying cross-examination of your own hitherto secret co-author of a supposedly independent report.
    3) Increase the findings of the report that formed the original ruling from “more likely than not, generally aware” to “a scheme”.
    4) Lying about the defendant’s sworn testimony and using that lie to further damn him.
    5) Confirming a violation that, according to your own rules, doesn’t even apply to players.

    If the Supreme court doesn’t take it they’re letting the 2nd Curcuit screw the legal employment rights of every player, screw them out of a fair arbitration as protected in the CBA.

  16. Brady is such a hypocrite. He is a staunch Republican who, now that it would benefit himself, suddenly supports the rights of big labor instead of management as Republicans typically do and is now relying on Democrats to save him.

  17. Let me get this straight a Supreme Court Justice, a person that has been a jurist for life, will throw away her professional integrity and personal integrity to make Tom Brady and Donald Trump unhappy because they are buddies. It is this kind of irresponsible behavior from the media that leads to fractures in our society and the breakdown in trust between people and highly qualified people. All Supreme Court Justices have forgotten more jurisprudence then you have ever learned. Being a former lawyer it is amazing to me that you think a judge would violate their integrity over something as petty as this.

  18. I actually could care less if Brady is suspended or not I am tired of the whole deflate gate fiasco. I get why Brady wants to fight this thing all the way to the Supreme court it is all about his legacy. The one problem that Brady may have is the court of public opinion. Even if Brady is vindicated by SCOTUS, it won’t matter to the court of public opinion. Miscarriages of Justice happen more often then we care to admit in this country (ahem, OJ Simpson)! That being said I hope that SCOTUS refuses to give the appeal a hearing. I would rather that the highest court of the land be more involved in much more important things! Sadly though if these Justices can get more pub from this hearing they probably will give Brady one last shot. Justice Ginsburg Trump is not the only one that has an ego here!!

  19. It will be intresting if RBG denies TB12’s stay and Trump decides to go nuclear on it.

    Trump>”Liberal judge siding against the Greatest QB of all time. A man after my own heart – I only associate with the best you know, and to have all these little people, mostly democrats, trying and take him down. It’s time for a change so that success isn’t a crime”….

    I mean, it’s bus(as is the deflategate punishment), but Trump could make some hay with it.

  20. i feel just like chris farley eating all the school kids lunches and giggling hysterically at the new joy i bask in. mrs lippy’s car is blue!
    #goldenchamps!

  21. Of course politics comes into play with Ginsburg. Unlike any sitting supreme court judge ever, she, in an on-the-record interview with the NY Times, took political positions on the presidential election and a Senate confirmation, indicated that she intends in future cases to vote to curtail constitutional rights, and violated the secrecy of the Supreme Court conference room.

  22. I actually looked forward to the legal commentary for once but have to admit I am disappointed. To bring up the Trump factor feels like pandering to me. Whether you (or anyone) agrees with the ruling, the suspension, the facts or even what this case is about, it’s inappropriate to besmirch a sitting Justice on the SCOTUS like that. It’s speculation and the objection would almost certainly be sustained in a court of law.

    To the person who called her comments (which I do think weren’t wise) you really should study law. They are inappropriate because of precedent only, not illegal. And I would argue the politicization of the court started long long ago. The same First Amendment that you cling to to be able to say what you want applies to everyone, including a Justice of the SCOTUS. It may not always be wise to use it, but I’d argue that same rule could be applied to you as well.

  23. Ted Olsen=$6000/hour

    Guaranteed an appeal is filed. Follow the money. A Supreme Court case costs generally in the $10 -15 MM for attorney fees. Think he will not push for a filing?

  24. willycents says:
    Jul 13, 2016 11:00 AM

    The true question about Ginsberg’s involvement: Which action will generate the most votes against Trump?

    The answer: Granting a stay will insure New England fans vote against Trump.

    The action: She grants the stay to try to insure that the Pats fans vote for Hillary, legal issues do not matter.
    ****************************
    You meant ‘ensure’ not insure. North east is pretty pro democratic regardless

  25. I don’t see any reason the Supreme Court would take this case

    Does the provisions in regards to hearings suck in the CBA? Yes but Maurice Smith sold the players on the deal. The players voted to accept the deal

    I am not against Brady or labor unions but the NFLPA voted and accepted the deal given out by the owners for other concessions.

    Unions were and in some respect, a great part of this country. But when an agreement is signed basically giving the commissioner the power that he has, you cannot go back on it unless a new deal is agreed upon.

    If the 2nd circuit refused to hear it en banc or even a three judge panel, I see no reason that the higher court will accept the case. JMO

  26. atomicwaste says:
    Jul 13, 2016 10:51 AM

    Yes, because SCOTUS has nothing better to do than hear an appeal about Deflategate…

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    “Better things” – like using the media as a platform publicize her personal feelings about a presidential candidate. So much for all judges appearing to be independent of political influence and bias. If she finds out that Tom Brady played golf with Trump and then had a “Make America Great” hat in his locker Tom Brady has no chance.

  27. Great, we already have Pats fans claiming the Second Circuit is corrupt, and now they’ll be screaming that the Supreme Court is also corrupt. At what point will they accept that Brady is just a cheater and move on? I assure you, there is not some massive conspiracy out to get him. He cheated. He got caught. And he should be punished.
    Even Brady isn’t arguing he’s innocent anymore — only that the arbitration should be re-tried because of irrelevant legal technicalities.

  28. you right wingers are pathetic cowards running down the country just because your boy sucks-get a grip on reality

  29. Are you setting this up to imply that if he doesn’t get the stay, it’s because Ruth Bader Ginsburg is biased? How cheap can you get?

  30. Baby Brady will play his first four games this year. I don’t believe the supreme court should waste its time hearing this, but they will. Anyway the decision will be put off until next year. Brady is too full of himself to stand up like a man and just take his four games and be done. Too worried about his legacy. I always smash my cell phone when I bye a new one!

  31. brady is the biggest cry baby in the NFL.
    Take your medicine like a man.
    ———
    That should say the Colts. (Biggest crybaby in the NFL)

    And through the investigation we learned that the Colts violated the rules TWICE during that game but the Pats never did get caught doing anything. Just speculation.

    The Colts (Mainly Grigson) were in the officials locker room at halftime. That room is off limits to everyone from either team for any reason.
    The Colts stuck a needle into a ball during game play. That is also a violation of the rule book.

  32. To this day the NFL has not released the information from 2015/2016 season PSI study.

    The only logical reason that this PSI information is being kept secret is that it disproves the NFL’s conclusion. Essentially this information likely exonerates The Patriots and Tom Brady. It’s easier to for the NFL to keep the PSI information secret than to suffer the public humiliation of having to admit that “deflategate” was about nothing.

    If the NFL had information that would help them with their court case and win the deflategate public relations campaign the NFL would not keep that information secret. All other information about this topic is irrelevant since science explains that there was no tampering and the NFL is hiding information and has lied numerous times.

    If the NFL had integrity they would not be keeping this information secret while taking away Patriots draft picks and while making Tom Brady miss 25% of a season and losing the pay from those games. The only logical conclusion is that this entire farce is about establishing league parity and personal vendettas. The NFL’s hiding this information is certainly contrary to the integrity of the game.

  33. OH MY GOODNESS!! Did you just suggest that a judge who is a human being might POSSIBLY show a little bit of bias in the way she does her job????

    Don’t you know that is sexist?? Are you saying that women are incapable of doing their job??

    After all, this was the reaction from all the dummies when Trump suggested the possibility of that 1st-generation Mexican-American judge not being totally fair with him during that Trump University lawsuit.

    (and I’m Mexican btw, not that it should matter to whether I’m making a valid point or not)

  34. Well, disappointing news. But it won’t have much of an impact on my life. It’s a long season, and the Pats will be in the hunt come January. And in truth, I would really like to see what JG has to offer.
    Let the haters have some fun. They really don’t have much of a life. Their sports knowledge is minimal, and their comments are juvenile and ill prepared. I believe a lot of them don’t even follow football. Just want others to be as miserable as themselves. Certainly doesn’t have that effect on me. Trolls are inevitable on all sports boards.

  35. With all you QB was facing last year Bill. Was it really necessary to run a trick play against philly and not take the points on 4th and 1 and then 4th and 6?

  36. Brady needs to retire. It is the only reasonable course of action left to him. Do the right thing Tom. End this long national nightmare.

  37. It really is striking that the truth types or kings or the ones that call Brady “Tammy” are so insecure of their respective teams that they cheer on Roger Goodell who has shown over and over he is a serial liar…Good luck. Pats are 14 wins with or without this sham suspension.

  38. I think if the Supreme Court takes this case the American people (not Patriot fans) are going to be mad as he has already wasted alot of tax payer money. What a baby take the 4 games like a man.

  39. keepounding1234 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 11:13 AM

    She is a professional. To say she would deny based on a friendship is ridiculous.
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    More than likely true. But I don’t believe that it is common for judges to make their political opinions publically known. Especially while sitting on the Supreme Court. It serves no purpose and opens the door for people to speculate.

  40. I’m not a Patriots fan, but if I was involved in a court case against me where an investigator was creating the unbiased report against me, I wasn’t allowed to cross examine him, they played 2 big media lies that hurt my case (fake psi numbers, “he destroyed his phone!” Which he did, but supplied 100% of my phone records which is the exact same thing), and the commissioner applied different rule standards of integrity versus equipment violation, I’d be pissed.

    Blatant railroading. Not sure if he did anything or not, but the facts are not there and there is extreme bias

  41. Ginsberg was best friends with scalia. And for trump supporters, life isn’t filled with nefarious conspiracies around every corner.

  42. Listen.

    Two middle-aged volunteer ballboys decided completely on their own to change the air pressure in the balls to be used in the AFC championship playoff game, and the coach and the QB, agruably the greatest in NFL history and both noted control freaks, are just fine with it, and the ballboys keep their jobs.

    Nothing to see here.

  43. If Ginsberg refuses to grant a stay, Brady has other options. He could appeal to the International Court of Justice, or, perhaps, the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague. This certainly rises to that level of importance, or perhaps to GOD himself.

  44. C’mon Tammy let it go you are already the 4th most hated nfl player ever are you shooting for #1 ??

  45. dickroy says:
    Jul 13, 2016 11:15 AM

    I always smash my cell phone when I bye a new one!
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    The whole phone thing was nothing more than a red herring meant to make someone that was innocent appear to be guilty. When the NFL proclaimed “Brady destroyed his phone”. The NFL knew that it was a simplistic concept that would dupe many. The NFL understood that science wouldn’t matter when the masses were given a simplistic distraction about a replaced telephone.

    The sensational use of the word “destroyed” would make people envision someone taking a club to a telephone. Few would figure out that there was no evidence left to obtain from the phone, so there was no unknown information to “destroy”. Many would assume that the phone was a mysterious smoking gun and would be willing to deny science.

    Fewer people would appreciate that individual privacy is important in America and understand that the NFL had no right to examine a personal telephone. The NFL would know that only intelligent people can notice details, so biased people would not notice that the NFL already had telephone logs that Tom Brady provided. Biased people would not figure out that the NFL already had the 2 team owned phones which would allow the NFL to view any texts could have been sent to or from those telephones.

    The NFL was right in assuming that many people would not realize that you don’t need both phones to obtain messages that were sent between 2 telephones. The NFL already had the 2 team owned telephones used by the 2 equipment employees. Tom Brady’s personal telephone was already made irrelevant. So no evidence to destroy. That didn’t stop the NFL form planting the “destroyed phone” story in the news when it suited their purposes.

    Only fools that slept through history classes would think that a person in America needs to prove their innocence. It’s his personal phone and the NFL had no right to take it. Any assumption of guilt based on Brady not giving the NFL his personal telephone is further proof that roughly half of the people on the planet are below average intelligence.

  46. stealthjunk says:
    Jul 13, 2016 11:11 AM
    Great, we already have Pats fans claiming the Second Circuit is corrupt, and now they’ll be screaming that the Supreme Court is also corrupt. At what point will they accept that Brady is just a cheater and move on? I assure you, there is not some massive conspiracy out to get him. He cheated. He got caught. And he should be punished.
    Even Brady isn’t arguing he’s innocent anymore — only that the arbitration should be re-tried because of irrelevant legal technicalities.
    ===================

    We had goodellbots claiming Berman was bought so what’s new? The ‘conspiracy’ is nothing of the sort, it is the league office pushing this suspension to end once and for all players going to court over suspensions and give the courts stamp of approval to Goodell’s virtually unlimited power. It is as simple as that. Wake up, Brady can’t argue his innocence, this is all about the power to punish not the circumstances that led to it. The league isn’t arguing guilt or innocence either.

    That so many people are so unclear about what this is really about after this much time is astounding.

  47. Florio is probably the best combo of wit, incite and succinct writing in sports today. NBC should give him bigger role. But Nfl network or espn would be scared to death of him.

  48. Either way, the Pats are strong favorites to win the division and a solid
    Choice to score another Lombardi. A 4 game audition for Jimmy G.
    and a shorter season for the GOAT might turn out to be blessings.
    The ruling doesn’t change they Roger is boob and Pat haters are pathetic. Whatever she decides, Justice Ginzburg is a great Judge Abe she is right on target about Don Trump. Brady needs better friends.

  49. racerx1225 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 10:51 AM

    Ginsburg is a disgrace to the robe she wears with these illegal statements.

    She should be removed from her job.

    America would be better off.

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    Says the man who is pro-Trump and pro-Brady. LOL

  50. dvdman123 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 11:40 AM

    All of this speculation is a mute point because more than likely the Supreme Court will refuse to rule on it. Bank on it!
    ****************************
    A ‘moot point’ means it’s debatable.

  51. To all of the people saying the court has “more important things to do” than worry about Deflategate- you don’t understand how the Supreme Court works.

    They wouldn’t take the case because they care about Tom Brady or football. They would take the case if they believe it sets a precedent that can be applied to other situations in the workplace.

    The question would have nothing to do with what TB did or didn’t do with footballs. It would be whether or not unions have the power to negotiate away the due process rights of its members. Can an employer lock its employees out of work and force them to accept an onerous one-sided discipline process in exchange for getting a new CBA done.

  52. Honestly though, should judges have lifetime appointments even though medical science proves that age leads to dementia. We want this crazy old bat who treats the Supreme Court like a window she can shout out at the kids on her lawn.

  53. Should any of that matter to whether Justice Ginsburg grants a stay? No. Do issues like that sometimes creep into the matters pending in federal appeals courts presided over by judges who wouldn’t have gotten those jobs in the first place if they weren’t adept at playing political games during their careers?
    ————————
    Check the list of Antonin Scalia’s hunting partners. You’ll find a much bigger list of Scalia-borne conflicts in the wilds of Texas than anything Ruth has on her resume.

  54. Told you he would be suspended 4 games. Not because of guilt, not because he destroyed his phone but because the NFL and Roger Goodell’s authority to discipline in this league is clearly defined in the CBA. There will be no more stays, no SCOTUS hearing. This is DONE. See you week 5, Tommy!!

    GO BILLS!!!

  55. “The internet is the best thing that ever happened to people with poor reading comprehension and who don’t understand science.”

    There fixed your statement for you.

    Just remember, Roger and his cronies will come for your team if you get in the way of his Jets.

  56. Let me get this straight a Supreme Court Justice, a person that has been a jurist for life, will throw away her professional integrity and personal integrity to make Tom Brady and Donald Trump unhappy because they are buddies. It is this kind of irresponsible behavior from the media that leads to fractures in our society and the breakdown in trust between people and highly qualified people. All Supreme Court Justices have forgotten more jurisprudence then you have ever learned. Being a former lawyer it is amazing to me that you think a judge would violate their integrity over something as petty as this.
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    Politics trumps all. There is a reason that Hillary Clinton is not behind bars for her email scandal even though if it were anybody else we would be in jail. If Comey can put politics before justice so can Supreme Court Justices. There is a reason that politicians have a reputation for being dishonest because they are. Liberal justices almost always come down on the liberal side of issues while conservative justices mostly come out on the conversative side of things unless they want to be praised by the liberal media. (Justice Roberts)

  57. Granted, every American should have his say in the court of law. He has and he lost in the lower courts. That said, he has no chance of the entire SCOTUS will hear this case. It just is not important enough. The bar is very high. The court takes cases that affects the Constitution of the USA.

  58. This is forcing me to belie my political leanings (I’m conservative) in hopes of justice against this petulant piece of crap Tom Brady. For once, I want the liberals to win but don’t get carried away folks.

  59. I wonder if this will effect the election in say Massachusetts. It’s a very liberal state that does vote republicans for senator or governor. If a very liberal judge hurts there beloved football team will those voters vote Trump in November…

  60. “Politics trumps all. There is a reason that Hillary Clinton is not behind bars for her email scandal even though if it were anybody else we would be in jail.”

    I have to laugh at you people targeting Hillary like this.

    Don’t you get that both parties are utterly and totally corrupt ? Don’t you get that both parties have only one goal, to steal as much public funds for themselves and their corporate owners as possible ? That neither party has done anything to substantially improve the country in the last 30 years ?

    They’re all corrupt and they should all be in jail.

  61. reddzen says:
    Jul 13, 2016 11:07 AM
    I actually looked forward to the legal commentary for once but have to admit I am disappointed. To bring up the Trump factor feels like pandering to me. Whether you (or anyone) agrees with the ruling, the suspension, the facts or even what this case is about, it’s inappropriate to besmirch a sitting Justice on the SCOTUS like that. It’s speculation and the objection would almost certainly be sustained in a court of law.

    To the person who called her comments (which I do think weren’t wise) you really should study law. They are inappropriate because of precedent only, not illegal. And I would argue the politicization of the court started long long ago. The same First Amendment that you cling to to be able to say what you want applies to everyone, including a Justice of the SCOTUS. It may not always be wise to use it, but I’d argue that same rule could be applied to you as well.
    =================================

    You are mistaken. It i snot “inappropriate” as you say, although it is. Actually they are “barred” from doing so.

  62. Its called the “Judicial Code of Conduct” and it is not a suggestion, it is a written rule of behavior they agree to abide by when they swear an oath. .

  63. It will be a cold day in hell before SCOTUS would give this even a shred a thought. The arrogance of Brady and his attorneys to take it to this level is unreal. With all the crap we have going on in this country, this is what they waste time with? Ridiculous.

  64. Take your punishment like everyone else and just go away Tom. It’s selfish to your team to drag this negative publicity on…….

  65. It’s OK if the Supheme Couht does this. Our Lohd and Saviouh Tom Brady was schewed ovuh so let’s all boycott the NFL /s/ Patriots fans

  66. it’s simple.

    file a defamation lawsuit.

    subpoena all nfl e-comm.
    bring the whole thing to light.

    who cares if Tom loses. It’s better than these stupid appeals,
    and the court of public opinion is what matters.

    Remember, the only person taking an oath under questioning at his hearing was Brady.

  67. Are you really implying that RBG’s personal feelings towards someone who is loosely associated with someone that she despises would cloud her professional judgement and duties towards the Supreme Court? That’s a pretty extreme stance to take and at best offensive towards a Supreme Court Justice and her character.

  68. Attention Patriots fans: Tom Brady was warned by the Pittsburgh Steelers NOT to vote for the new CBA, which would grant Lord Goodell the power to determine suspendable conduct any way he saw fit.

    Brady went ahead and voted for it anyway.

    That’s why all this talk of Ideal Gas is really just a lot of… hot air. It all comes down to how Goodell thinks Brady — or any other player — should be judged.

    Brady didn’t care that Goodell was coming down on other players back then like some drunken king. Suddenly he does.

    A little too late, Tommy.

  69. I’m Justice Ginsburg’s next door neighbor and she’s confided in me that she knows Brady cheated and has a long history of cheating.

  70. The difference between RBG and Tom Brady?

    One is an American Hero, and GOAT.

    The other is a cheating pretty-boy football player.

  71. For all his ineptitude, Trump is the only presidential candidate to publicly come out against Goodell.

  72. The only person who can decide recusal is the Justice him/herself. When George Wallace sought the nomination, his views were so extreme and anti-American SCOTUS Justices were compelled to speak out. The same applies here. Also, Thomas and Scalia have been guests and have spoken at several gatherings of right wing zealots. Scalia was the guest of just such a wealthy zealot when he died.

    Show us your tax returns, Donnie!

  73. unoduotres says:
    Jul 13, 2016 1:59 PM
    Funny that the second District decision is lacking any explanation. Wonder Why?
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    Because it wasn’t a legal decision? No explanation is ever given as to why a case is hear or not heard.

  74. There is ZERO chance that the Supreme Court of the US will hear a case about a whiny little brat who feels he’s being treated unfairly…
    If they did, they’d have to clear their docket for the next 100 years to listen to every 5-year old girl in America.

  75. “The most powerful living eugenicist in government. What a horrible person.”

    OK, lets all pretend we are smart and can say provocative things in language most don’t understand. I will respond to the above by saying it is a non sequitur.

  76. Ginsberg will grant him the stay. Won’t matter, because the court will refuse to hear it in short order. At best, Brady can change the 4 games he serves.

  77. The facts that my tax dollars are being wasted, and that there are SO MANY other important issues that could be dealt with . . .

    Let go Brady. Just let go . . .

  78. Wow. Brady cheated. He’s tried everything under the sun, yet he’s still being found guilty as ever. Now all of the sudden this is Donald Trump’s fault? That’s pretty funny.

  79. steviaquinn says:
    Jul 13, 2016 2:18 PM
    This case hinges on weight loss guru, sports memorabilia dealer, and football bathroom attendant “The Deflator”

    ———-

    No, the case hinges near exclusively on labor law.

    What actually happened is no longer at issue except to whiny Pats fans who have shown a lamentable lack of knowledge of law or science in their continued diatribes.

  80. The only way any justice would stay a Circuit Ruling is if they beleived the merits of the case would exceed under Appeal. Fortunately, the merits are self evident & can’t win. I realize there are hoards of mindless Patricheat zombies who will continue to cry conspiracies towards the proverbial legal heavens in hopes of some unwarranted relief, but they would be better served by simply ackowleding that other teams win as a result of hard work & skill & don’t need to cheat…unlike the Belicheat montra.

  81. racerx1225 says:
    “..Ginsburg is a disgrace to the robe she wears with these illegal statements.
    She should be removed from her job.
    America would be better off…”

    But I thought all you RWNJ’s liked it when people spoke their minds and weren’t politically correct.

    So which is it, yes or no?
    Can’t have it both ways.

  82. mcquillian says:
    Jul 13, 2016 2:26 PM
    The facts that my tax dollars are being wasted, and that there are SO MANY other important issues that could be dealt with . . .

    Let go Brady. Just let go . . .

    ————

    If all that was at stake was Brady’s 4 games he would have let go ages ago and had little union backing.

    Your tax dollars are being spent because there are important interpretations of labor law and collective bargaining at play. Thus it is worth untold money to the union/owners, and is at least significant to just about any industry with unions.

  83. If the Supreme Court hears this case and that old crone is involved, Brady is screwed.
    She is a bleeding heart, quasi Marxist and a loon,
    Get Garoppolo warmed up.

  84. Birdgang says:

    Cardinals 67, Patriots 13

    ===========================
    Brady may not play, the defense will be there.

    for your sake let’s hope it’s not NFCCG Carson behind center.

    hope all you people out there are happy, you got your wishes fulfilled, Godell is now omnipotent, hope it all plays out down the road exactly the way you think it should.

  85. Tom Shady. Most hated man in America. Goole it.

    ——–

    This new Goole isnt very impressive. I did goole it and all that came back was Brady’s jerseys sales as number 1 in the league. I think Goole needs to do better.

  86. I want to hear more about the Ideal Gas Law.
    That never gets old.

    ——–

    Is the earth flat in your world too?

  87. Ginsburg is way too smart for that. She’ll grant the stay. Then the Court will announce the refusal just in time for his suspension to kick in at the end of the season, when it really hurts. You can pick your friends but you can’t pick your Justice.

  88. harrisonhits2 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 12:13 PM

    Just remember, Roger and his cronies will come for your team if you get in the way of his Jets.
    ————————–

    Now we all know why Fitzpatrick is going to be watching this season from his couch.

    He single-handedly kept the Jets out of the playoffs last season with that abysmal performance against the Bills.

  89. Ginsburg? It’s now confirmed that judges can be partisans.
    Brady can invoke Clinton Privilege. Hillary got away with destroying her hard drive and other egregious acts. Ginsburg has no problem with them, it might just work.

  90. I wonder if Justice Ginsburg reads this site regularly? LOLOLOLOLOL

    I think you all think about things like this way too much if you think for two seconds she will draw a correlation between Brady’s friendship with Trump and what she needs to do on her job.

    Judges and Justices spend their entire lives suspending (or trying to) their judgments on matters until they have all the information. I am sure Ginsburg and other justices views people other than Trump as a-holes. Yet the still manage to do their jobs. I tend to find that liberal or conservative biases are far deeper than who is friends with who.

    Are there any justices that would be NY based and could they be ticked that a life long New Yorker is friends with the face of the evil empire in Boston (Brady). Should Trump be worried about carrying NY because of his Brady love?

    Lol, I wish!

  91. “That so many people are so unclear about what this is really about after this much time is astounding”.
    ********************
    Not really. Look at the comments and it is clear that most have no clue about the fact that the appeal is not about “Cheating” but due process.

  92. Doesn’t this confirm all our suspicions of Tom Brady?

    Spoiled little rich kid gets caught. He refuses to own up and just keep spending money because he can never be wrong. Tammy is throwing a tantrum.

  93. Why does this not surprise me?

    this article should be titled..
    I also dislike Donald Trump so let me bash Trump by association.

  94. Trump is right, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is not competent to serve as a Supreme Court justice after her recent remarks.

    She should resign.

  95. It’s one girl after another putting queen sized whoopings on Trump, anymore. Hillary, Elizabeth, and now Ruth have all seriously ruffled the Donald’s feathers without really putting much work into it. This is actually better than football. It’s a safe bet that the girls are drawing up their next play as we stew. Brady might be wise to stick to football, and not poke Ruth with a stick. LOL.

  96. What do we know here?

    1. Tom Brady is making the Players Union foot the legal bill
    2. Brady and Trump being friends, both will scream about unfairness and bias
    3. Ginsburg looks like Woody Allen’s sister

  97. The Ideal Gas Law > This country’s bogus Labor law that is so easily skirted by criminals like our beloved commish.

    Your team is next

  98. The Truth says:
    Jul 13, 2016 5:06 PM
    She’s feeble minded !

    Oh, really? I’d put RBG up against you and your entire family any day of the week.

  99. As far as MORONS go, All I can offer is the old expression; ‘It take’s one to know one’.

  100. How many Jimmy G. wins before the Trolls start manufacturing lies about him?

    Poor willfully ignorant dupes…think their opinions change Patriots 20+ Years of NFL Dominance. Pounding their chests like they’ve won something. Sad that they are so starved for some sort of victory that this qualifies for them.

    See you in January when it really counts…

    Kiss The RingS Trolls…

  101. cb3313 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 8:08 PM
    Patriots 20+ Years of NFL Dominance.
    ———————————————————

    you must have learned to count in Mass. but let’s go back shall we

    1996(20 yrs ago ) *Patriots got dominated by Green Bay and embarrassed themselves on national tv on the games biggest stage… 1997 -2001 did absolutely nothing worth noting….
    2002 due to a pay off from *Kraft…a mysterious tuck rule gets called for the first time in history.this cheat allowed them to back into the SB. and barely squeak by a much better rams team……

    the point… it’s hardly been 14 yrs not 20 + and they have hardly been dominant..

    but no worries sport we expect lies and embellishments out of you maladjusted, delusional, group of morons that the rest of the country calls mass holes…..have a nice day because you’ve just been served….

  102. Pats fans actually think the Clinton email thing and the Tom Brady thing are on the same level.

    It’s as if Mass has already passed legal weed with the rest of the intellectual states that like tax money to pay for things we need as a society. But no…

  103. gaffya says:
    Jul 13, 2016 9:24 PM

    cb3313 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 8:08 PM
    Patriots 20+ Years of NFL Dominance.
    ———————————————————

    you must have learned to count in Mass. but let’s go back shall we

    1996(20 yrs ago ) *Patriots got dominated by Green Bay and embarrassed themselves on national tv on the games biggest stage… 1997 -2001 did absolutely nothing worth noting….
    2002 due to a pay off from *Kraft…a mysterious tuck rule gets called for the first time in history.this cheat allowed them to back into the SB. and barely squeak by a much better rams team……

    the point… it’s hardly been 14 yrs not 20 + and they have hardly been dominant..

    but no worries sport we expect lies and embellishments out of you maladjusted, delusional, group of morons that the rest of the country calls mass holes…..have a nice day because you’ve just been served….
    …………

    Tuck Rule wasn’t “mysterious”, it was on the books and actually called AGAINST the Patriots earlier that same year. But yea, it was a Kraft payoff, ok. It was a dumb rule that was revoked years later, but you need a few breaks to win a Super Bowl. The game is just too random. Just look at the Helmet Catch. It was Tyree’s last NFL reception.

  104. cb3313 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 8:08 PM

    “the point… it’s hardly been 14 yrs not 20 + and they have hardly been dominant..”

    ———

    What is you definition of dominance? Pats have been to 6 Super Bowls this century and have by far the best winning pct of any team, including a 21 game winning streak and the first 16-0 season.

  105. gaffya says:
    Jul 13, 2016 9:24 PM

    2002 due to a pay off from *Kraft…a mysterious tuck rule gets called for the first time in history.this cheat allowed them to back into the SB. and barely squeak by a much better rams team……
    ————————-

    How can anyone have a meaningful discussion with someone like this?

  106. cb3313 says:
    Jul 13, 2016 8:08 PM

    Pats have been to 6 Super Bowls this century and have by far the best winning pct of any team, including a 21 game winning streak
    —————————————————–

    dominance is defined by the Pittsburgh Steelers who have been to 8 sb’s this century.Remember the 21 and done game ? I do it was a thing of beauty…You guy’s have beat us a few times we’ve beat you a few times…We’re going to beat you again this season too and *Brady will be fresh as well,so no excuses.You’ve gotten the better of us last 10 yrs for the most part.that ends this year.

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