NFL will explore narrowing the uprights by putting chips in footballs

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The issue of computer chips being placed inside footballs has emerged from time to time, as a device for determining goal-line and boundary issues. It’s now coming up in a different context.

As reported by John Kryk of the Toronto Sun, the NFL will be placing computer chips in footballs to assess whether and to what extent goal posts should be narrowed.

“The discussion has really revolved around narrowing the uprights,” NFL V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino told Kryk. “That would be one way to affect both the extra point and the field goal. [Success rates] have continued to climb over the years as our field goal kickers and that whole process has become so specialized, from long snapper to holder to kicker. . . . We’ll do some studies this year.”

The chips will track how close made kicks already are coming to the goal posts, which then would be used to determine how much more narrow the goal posts would have to be in order to make kicks harder, but presumably not too difficult.

For now, the experiment will be confined to the preseason. It could extend to Thursday night games in the regular season. Blandino didn’t rule out the goal posts narrowing as soon as next year.

“You never know,” Blandino said. “We’ll see what the data tells us. The [Competition Committee] will discuss it and then make a recommendation for 2017 if they feel that we need to go that route. But I wouldn’t know at this point, without seeing how it goes this year.”

The study also should take into account the distance by which the kicks clear the crossbar. If the goal is to reduce the number of made kicks, pushing the bar higher than 10 feet also should be an option.

89 responses to “NFL will explore narrowing the uprights by putting chips in footballs

  1. I just don’t understand why some people think it would make the game better by having games decided by kicker’s mistakes. I mean, I see a lot of fans wearing jerseys, but I rarely if ever see them wearing a kicker’s jersey. Why on earth do they want to make kickers a more important component? To add excitement? Geez. How much excitement do you need? It’s the wrong kind of excitement. I would much rather have the players determine the outcome than the kickers. We have video replay because we don’t want the referees determining the outcome. Missed kicks are a fluke. Having a fluke determine the outcome is as bad as having the refs do it.

  2. funny how the league is tryin to take away kickers abilitys to feed there familys. almost as if theres some physical trait of most kickers they dont like. ill let u guess what im talking about.

  3. realtruthteller100 says:
    Jul 17, 2016 11:12 PM

    funny how the league is tryin to take away kickers abilitys to feed there familys. almost as if theres some physical trait of most kickers they dont like. ill let u guess what im talking about.
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    No one can guess what the hell you are talking about. Ever.

  4. Just keep ruining the game, what ever happened to the straight line and barefoot kickers ?

  5. 2016StockMarketCrash says:
    Jul 17, 2016 11:17 PM

    Will the Patsies cheat with this too?
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    With what?

  6. Man someone in the front office hates kickers.

    Why not put a couple of dancers on the uprights and pipe the oompa loompa song into the kickers helmets. Maybe that would lower their percentage too.

  7. Why do you want to force teams to go for two? Wouldn’t another goal line stand increase the risk of injury over just kicking the extra point?

    Player safety is job #1.. Unless you are the NFL

  8. why they are at it ,why not put a sensor in the ball that could monitor the pressure changes in the ball?………………….oh, sorry, i forgot…… the NFL doesn’t want to know anything that might be related to physics or actual measurements.

  9. Seriously how to they have this technology and not use it to figure out whether a field goal went over the goal posts or not.

    It’s like the NFL has a million half measures and can never take that extra logical step to improve the game even more.

  10. Make it more entertaining – have a movable goal post. It could move side to side across the end line.

  11. “The passing success rate of QBs has really increased over the years, so we have decided to let defensive players hold receivers anywhere on the field” All the rules favoring the offense ruins the game more a little kicking.

  12. Blandino said. “We’ll see what the data tells us”.

    Funny, the NFL didn’t feel a need to share the data they acquired for the football pressure. Why not just have Ted Wells make up the data like you did last time? And you can have ESPN publish incorrect data to support you. Mort may be available if you need him.

  13. Does anyone recall if the NFL ever used technology to collect data and then used the data in a way that made sense? Didn’t think so. Bunch of buffoons.

  14. Also the goal posts now rotate mechanically and the kickers have to wear that cardboard Google VR case in their helmet. Because God forbid someone uses their foot to do something in a game named after that specific appendage.

  15. I suspect that the goalpost study id a cover for a more extensive study involving the location of the ball and the internal pressure of the ball. These NFL front office guys know the game could be speeded up and monitored more closely with a chip in the ball.

  16. Roger clearly wants to kill the kicking game in order to eliminate the potential for another “Ray Finkle” scenario.

  17. Kickers and holders are some of the most protected positions on the field. So much so that their game has pretty much become automatic points once you get inside the 30. Potentially making the kicks harder means those players will have to work harder to make their money. Frankly, I’m fine with that.

  18. What’s worse……the NFL constantly playing with the rules or the zombie Pat haters constantly making inane comments? Toss up IMO.

  19. Since when are field goals bad for the game?

    In that case , why not go the full mile:

    1 – eliminate special teams. No punting allowed. No field goals allowed. You just get 4 downs and if you don’t convert, it’s a turn over.

    2 – in the name of player safety, disallow any contact. Give the players 2 yellow flags attached by velcro strips. The player is down when the velcro strips are pulled off.

    3 – To help the NFL make more money, force the players to wear kilts. The Kilts come in different colors and are yet more merchandise for the NFL to sell.

    4 – to enhance the game day experience, have refs or fans play Pokemon-Go on the field during half time.

  20. “funny how the league is tryin to take away kickers abilitys to feed there familys.”

    If you can’t feed your family without getting paid a million dollars to kick a ball you deserve to watch your family starve.

    You spell like a moron, by the way.

  21. Why would an experiment ever be used for only some of the games in the regular season?

  22. dickebyrd says:
    Jul 17, 2016 11:35 PM

    Belly boy and the patsies just found their new cheat secret!
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    I’d guess that even some Pats haters cringed at this monstrosity 🤐

  23. Pretty obvious this is just a precursor to other information a chip can detect, like when the ball has crossed the goal line or even inflation pressure (same as most new cars, I imagine).

  24. Justin Tucker, Ravens kicker – making 4 million/yr. = “What they’re going to narrow and raise the goal post, damn”. I need another million.

  25. Maybe we should put a chip in Roger Goodell, and kick him between the goal posts.

  26. Eliminate the specialists. Eliminate the two point conversion, make whoever scores the TD kick the extra point and field goals have to be kicked by a player who regularly plays on the offensive or defensive units (like a QB or something). That would be fun!

  27. If you can put a computer chip in a football I bet BB and Tammy will figure out a way to put a camera in the practice balls of the opposing teams

  28. Now if only they could develop a chip that would determine whether it was a catch or not…

    Nah ..what am I saying?
    The NFL likes their catalog of vague, ambiguous rules so they can use them to determine the outcome of games.

  29. Problem…reaction…solution. No reason to ‘chip’ footballs. Thing is, will anyone really know what those chips can do? Will teams try and ‘hack’ the chip? Gives a whole new way to cheat.

  30. It’s not about making the goal posts more narrow or about making the kicker a priority in the game. It’s about programming the masses to accept a chip to be installed in a football so they can take pictures of the crowds in all the stadiums.

  31. Why don’t they just play all the games on Madden. No other sport goes through so many rule changes every year. It’s impossible to compare how good past teams were, individual records become meaningless because the way the game is played changes every year.

  32. You know what would make the games more exciting?

    Less commercials.
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    If I could click the thumbs up 10,000 times for that comment, it still wouldn’t be enough agreement.

    Lets just get rid of the extra point, make td’s 7 points or keep them at six, doesn’t matter. Field goals and kickoffs should be enough to keep the kickers employed a little longer.

  33. “That would be one way to affect both the extra point and the field goal. [Success rates] have continued to climb over the years as our field goal kickers and that whole process has become so specialized, from long snapper to holder to kicker. . . . We’ll do some studies this year.”

    All this statement means is that it’s one more snail-step toward the direction of getting rid of the kicking game altogether between this and the kickoff/concussion issue.

    Just pull the Band-Aid off all at once already and get it over with and get rid of the kicking game altogether bc it’s not even logical in the first place.

    Start all drives at the 3o yard line. (the 30, not the 20, because upon winning the coin toss and deciding do you want the ball or not, no team would want the ball at their own 2o knowing they can’t punt if they go 4 and out. Putting the ball at the 30 and close to midfield if you get a first down plus some yards keeps the strategy of taking the ball or deferring at the coin toss in play).

    No punts or field goals and extra points are 1 pt close to the goal or 2 starting from further back.

    Done and done. Next topic.

  34. Wow…talk about an oxymoron….

    • NFL to tamper with the football by installing a microchip in a football
    • NFL to conduct Study/experiment to collect data on the angle of a kick and the effects on narrowing Goalposts
    • Because the field goals and extra points have become specialized (much like kickoff and punt returners) and the fact they are good at what they do, the NFL wants to make it harder on these players.
    • So I now ask:
    o Where is the PSI data?
    o Did the study of pregame, midgame end of game PSI data either confirm or dispute the laws of science?
    o Why can’t the data be released? Please provide a reason for not revealing the data from your study?
    o One would assume you will release the data on the chip laden footballs, so why not the tested footballs of 2015?
    I can’t trust anything coming out of Washington and now I can trust anything coming out of NFL headquarters.
    All I ask is release the data……can anyone support not releasing the data?

  35. tonebones says:
    Jul 17, 2016 11:09 PM
    I just don’t understand why some people think it would make the game better by having games decided by kicker’s mistakes..Missed kicks are a fluke. Having a fluke determine the outcome is as bad as having the refs do it.
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    Wow, I’m surprised you got so many thumbs up, but I think you misconceive sport because, apart from it all being part of the drama and excitement:
    1) It’s called FOOTBALL, not handball, so success & mistakes in actually kicking the damn ball should be just as critical as anything else.
    2) Missed kicks are no more a fluke than a drop on an easy catch or a badly thrown short pass or a bungled snap or a runner dropping a ball. These things often don’t happen in isolation but are sometimes due to the tactical, psychological or physical pressure of the opposition, bad clock management, or simply the uber-pressure of the game situation (such as kicking to win the game as time expires).
    3) Mistakes decide many games in most sports! A missed easy hoop, a player slipping, a bird flying in front of a pitcher or batter, etc. And look at tennis, golf, soccer, billiards, skiing, surfing, showjumping, etc, etc – they all have key aspects where mistakes decide points and thus games, and indeed some sports are entirely based on who makes the fewest ones.
    4) A sudden fluke change in wind or any weather can affect all phases of the game, as can an off-field argument with a coach or teammates, or wife, or bad guts or nerves, or a bad section of grass/turf. Do you guys even watch any sport or do you just play Pokemon Go in the stadium and glance at the stats for your fantasy team?

  36. Brady is off for four weeks. He can use the time to install the chips. According to Goodell, he has experience in deflating balls.
    Goodell needs to go. Now.
    Cut Brady’s suspension to two games, or one, and move the hell on.
    Having totally confused the simple operation of catching a football, the NFL now wants to toy with kicks. Amazing.

  37. Wait – what? Why don’t they use it to get correct spots on close 1st downs and TD’s? How is the NFL front office this stupid. Unreal.

  38. The Pats expand and narrow the goal posts slightly at home, which gives them a slight statistical advantage over every team. Look at the film when opposing teams kick the ball. They have a mechanism inside the posts that slowly expand and contract remotely. Thats the reason Bellicheck made the rule.

  39. Put a top cross bar. Make it like a floating soccer goal. That would be kinda cool.

  40. Field goals not allowed on 4th down. And they have to be drop kicked. Punts still allowed on any down.

  41. superpatriotsfan says:
    Jul 18, 2016 9:31 AM

    I can see Bill Belichick hiring some hackers to alter the ball weight and ideal gas laws.
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    Oh yeah? Do you have one of those magic mirrors like the one on Romper Room?

  42. It’s just stupid. They WANT to have more missed kicks. XP’s, FG’s.

    They pushed the XP out, and that wasn’t enough.

    Here’s a hint NFL, we don’t need Arena Football League uprights.

    Why are we trying to move the ‘goal post’ literally with kickers? They make more kicks so they are being penalized.

    How about the fact there are so many passing TD’s now, why don’t they make the field 10-20 yards longer! Why don’t they make the ball bigger and heavier!

    Now that we have faster QB’s who can run too, we should put some lead weights in them!

    It’s just so stupid that the NFL is literally trying to make a particular job harder and then yet harder still by MORE stupid rules because the position got better, but not anyone else.

  43. muley5 says:
    Jul 18, 2016 10:09 AM

    If you can put a computer chip in a football I bet BB and Tammy will figure out a way to put a camera in the practice balls of the opposing teams
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    Oh yeah? Will it be a special x-ray camera that can see through the bladder and the leather?

    It’s good to see they allow internet access down at the Little Sisters of the Delusional Patriots Haters Lunatic Asylum.

  44. It’s almost like Goodell feels a need to make fundamental changes to the game every season to give the appearance he is doing something useful…..

    Leave the game alone. It’s fine. Actually, retract some of the rules Polian and Manning put in place to penalize defensive backs and let them actually play again.

  45. Ernie Adams has 12 dozen balls in his batcave that are already chipped- if Goodell asked Kraft I am sure he can borrow them.

  46. MichaelEdits says:
    “..The chips could also be used to measure the pressure inside the footballs, if in fact the NFL actually cared about that sort of thing…”

    Sure, until you actually, you know, kick it.
    Then the pressure inside increases by a factor of 10.

    Then what? Overinflategate?

  47. For years fan conversations on the subject have revolved around the technology being available but not being used to determine breaking the plane of the goal line, being in or out of bounds r whether or not a kick was good. But when the league finally gets around to it do they want to use it to help get any of those things right? Hell no, they want to use it to ‘fix’ something that isn’t broken. smh

  48. Why don’t they put the goal post uprights in motion, moving closer together and farther apart, and have fire shoot out of them.

    Oh, and soak the footballs in gasoline, too.

    If they are going mess around with stuff, at least be creative.

  49. The reason I like this move is because they aren’t arbitrarily messing with the game. They are gathering data first to see if a change would be beneficial.

    Sounds reasonable to me.

  50. Everything about this idea lacks foresight. Electronics and forceful impact are rarely a good combination. What do you do if the chip fails?

    I do not understand the concept here. They want to change the dynamics because kickers have become very good at what they do. Why? Excitement/boredom is a BS reason (nobody is excited about commercial breaks but they keep looking for ways to add those). Will they change the shape of the ball because QBs have become very good at throwing it? The concept is absurd.

    If they must make a change, move the extra point back to where it used to be and add a crossbar on TOP of the uprights. Anything outside the ‘box’ is no good. That makes the closer kicks harder while not affecting the longer ones at all. Nobody is going to sail a 50+ yard field goal over the top of the uprights and if you do that on a short kick, you miss.

  51. destructicus says:
    Jul 18, 2016 1:09 PM

    The reason I like this move is because they aren’t arbitrarily messing with the game. They are gathering data first to see if a change would be beneficial.

    Sounds reasonable to me.
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    They are going to end up arbitrarily messing with the game. They already did it when they moved the spot of the extra point.

  52. Want to make a kick off more exciting? Kick off from the 40 yard line, ball has to travel 10 yards, if it’s not in the endzone it has to hit the ground first before the returner can advance it, but he may call a fair catch. Probably make no sense, and missing details, but I’m bored…

  53. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that missed kicks are a fluke, but any kick inside 50 yards is almost automatic for an NFL kicker. If a team gets within field goal range in the last seconds of a close game or in overtime, there is little doubt as to the outcome. Barring a bad snap or a block, you know who is going to win. Kickers who simply miss critical kicks are soon unemployed. I wouldn’t be against making the kicks harder by narrowing the goal posts and/or raising the crossbar.

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