NFL insists players named in PED report must give interviews

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The NFL is not backing down on its insistence that the players named in an Al Jazeera documentary about performance-enhancing drugs must agree to interviews as part of the league’s investigation.

The players involved are Packers linebackers Julius Peppers and Clay Matthews, Steelers linebacker James Harrison and free agent (and former Packer) Mike Neal. Peyton Manning is also part of the NFL’s investigation, although his retirement means he’s no longer a member of the NFL Players Association and not a part of the ongoing battle between the league and the union over whether players must give interviews to league investigators.

The four players submitted affidavits responding to the allegations made against them in the Al Jazeera documentary, but Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the NFL still insists that affidavits aren’t good enough, and they must give interviews.

The players’ union insists that the NFL has no right to investigate players unless there’s “credible evidence” that they used PEDs. The NFL says the league only needs credible evidence to impose discipline, not to launch an investigation. The league plans to send investigators to Packers camp and Steelers camp to interview the players, but the players are expected to decline to be interviewed.

88 responses to “NFL insists players named in PED report must give interviews

  1. Here it comes, guys. You people who cheered Goodell when he blatantly lied and moved the goalposts and changed the rules to hurt the Pats are now going to see the same thing happen here.

    He doesn’t care about “credible evidence” as long as there’s something in his head that he can punish.

    Good luck, but it isn’t going to help.

  2. Uh-oh. As we Patriots, Saints and Dolphin fans have warned the rest of you, Herr Goodell would eventually bringing his form of corporate justice to your teams. When Tom Brady was falsely accused of the PSI scheme, we were told that he should co-operate with Field Marshall Wells, man up and accept his punishment. Let’s see if Steeler and Packer fans can follow the same advise.

  3. Oh no! Not another player issue? Interview refusal (I’m just here so I don’t get fined), say 2 games? Maybe 4 there’s a possibilty it’s equivalent to PED’s
    I’m sure Old Rog can up it, he’ll just make something up as usual. Ala Brady.

    Now he’s going to be completely out of control. Article 46!

    Doesn’t matter if he’s right or wrong-it’s his call. I don’t think you’ll be seeing a kinder gentler Commish anytime soon.

  4. Remember the CBA and Article 46 – Goodell can now do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and to whomever he wants. He gets to decide on the punishment and then act as his own arbitrator.

    Better start by handing over those personal cell phones before he gets angry…

  5. Here comes the lawsuit – a Declaratory Judgement action filed to “clarify” the CBA. NFL lawyers will get paid again … and lose. Another “fishing expedition” that Goodell and his lawyers want to force despite the lack of credible support and destructive impact. Goodell has now alienated the players, the union, the coaches, the sponsors and the fans. I wonder how long it will be before some enterprising politician gets involved and threatens the NFL anti-trust exemption or wants to amend the National Labor Relations Act to provide for due process or fundamental fairness (overruling the Second Circuit’s decision). Maybe then the owners will realize having an adversarial commissioner and legal staff is destroying the game. A trained monkey could have grown the game as much as Goodell has; isn’t it time to stop the destruction?

  6. Roger just can’t go through a season without turning the league in the WWE. If I’m running that union, I’d file a lawsuit now and challenge the NFLs interpretation of “cooperation.” Its not defined in the CBA and needs to be.

  7. Patsareinyourheads says:

    Uh-oh. As we Patriots, Saints and Dolphin fans have warned the rest of you, Herr Goodell would eventually bringing his form of corporate justice to your teams. When Tom Brady was falsely accused of the PSI scheme, we were told that he should co-operate with Field Marshall Wells, man up and accept his punishment. Let’s see if Steeler and Packer fans can follow the same advise.

    —-

    Don’t forget the Vikings (15 games for AP), Redskins, and Cowboys (both penalized for treating an uncapped year like a uncapped year) too.

  8. .
    It’s a proven fact that they failed 11 out of 12 drug tests….. or something like that.
    .

  9. Patsie fans should be grateful to Mr Goodell and the schedule maker for letting them open with 3 out of 4 cupcakes at home to start the season while the Shady one is suspended.

  10. Unless your name is Pedton Manning.

    Any player on the Broncos, Colts, Ravens, or Jets will get a little slap on the wrist. Everyone else will see 4-8 games.

    In fact, according to the recent shocking court case, Goodell can now suspend players who weren’t linked to any PED use! Even players who test clean can be suspended! Suh can be suspended for Bell’s latest transgression. Der Furher’$ power is unlimited.

  11. iamapatsfan says:
    Jul 22, 2016 6:08 PM
    Here it comes, guys. You people who cheered Goodell when he blatantly lied and moved the goalposts and changed the rules to hurt the Pats are now going to see the same thing happen here.

    He doesn’t care about “credible evidence” as long as there’s something in his head that he can punish.

    Good luck, but it isn’t going to help.
    ====================================

    If Goodell did nothing then you same Pats fans would be crying that he’s covering it up and not treating other teams the same. You would snivel and whine at any decision he made.

  12. I think Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers should be suspended. You shouldn’t be allowed to be that good.

  13. I’ll always support those who play the game I love over those who try to own it. The NFL front office has historically been less honest than Donald and Hillary combined. I’m not sure how this will end but I hope it ends entertainingly 🙂

  14. Oh he’ll be coming around and mounting your team then he comes
    He’ll be coming around and mounting your team then he comes
    He’ll be coming around and mounting your team, give it to you hard until you scream, he’ll be coming around and mounting your team till he comes.

    He’ll be making up rules as he goes when he comes, he’ll be making up rules as he goes when he comes,

    He’ll be making up rules as he goes, fudge the data and leak it so ESPN knows
    He’ll be making up rules as he goes when he comes.

    I’ll be sitting here and laughing when he does,
    I’ll be sitting here and laughing when he does,
    I’ll be sitting here and laughing, BECAUSE YOU DESERVE IT
    I’ll be sitting here and laughing when he does.

  15. Goodell – “Peyton, we have records of PEDs being shipped to your house. Is this your address?”

    Peyton – “Yes it is Mr Commissioner.”

    Goodell – “were they for you?”

    Peyton – “nope, My wife.”

    Goodell – “good enough for me, take care Peyton and make sure you stop by the studio sometime.”

  16. Here it comes, guys. You people who cheered Goodell when he blatantly lied and moved the goalposts and changed the rules to hurt the Pats are now going to see the same thing happen here.

    —-

    Steelers were the only team to vote against CBA, one of their main contentions was about Goodell’s power. They realized what was going on well before Patriot fans did, yet you guys act like you’re the first ones to be screwed.

  17. Wonder how many players now have a phone in agent of wife’s name instead of their own?

    SKOL

  18. Not to be a haters or anything but toward to Patriot..

    If the person is truly innocent, he/she should able to come forward and be willing to discuss, and defend yourself better against false accusations.

    ~Jets Fan

  19. Steelers were the only team to vote against CBA, one of their main contentions was about Goodell’s power. They realized what was going on well before Patriot fans did, yet you guys act like you’re the first ones to be screwed.
    _______________
    And we were wrong. We didn’t give it much thought at the time because players and owners all agreed that if it weren’t for Bob Kraft, there wouldn’t have been a season. Watch the interview with Jeff Saturday.

    Little did the Patriots realize that as thanks for saving the NFL, a few jealous owners would use the CBA against NE by dreaming up an elaborate, and blatantly false scam like Deflategate! Ironically, it was the dirtiest group of teams in the NFL that made this stuff up! Denver, Indy, Baltimore.

  20. Maybe the NFLPA won’t be asleep at the leadership wheel during the next collective bargaining agreement. They’ve no one to blame but themselves. I’ve zero sympathy for them, or the players, for they collectively voted to hand the Commissioner the power to rule as he saw fit. Brady included. Want some cheese with that whine?

  21. I do not like the league overstepping its bounds any more than the rest of you but let’s use a little common sense here. The union says the league cannot investigate unless they have credible evidence that a specific player did something wrong. Common sense says that if credible evidence is already possessed by the authorities (NFL in this case of company disciplinary policy) they do not need to conduct ANY investigations because they already have evidence a crime/violation was committed.

    The union’s stance here is absurd and if you follow their logic, as Mr. Florio did in a previous article on this site, the union wants the league to conduct an investigation during the appeal process after punishment has been assessed. This same union complained loudly that, during the Brady appeal, the league was wrongly willing to entertain new evidence. Folks, you can’t have it both ways depending on which way suits you at a given time. Everybody bashes Goodell when it appears he does it but nobody says anything when the union does it.

    Investigations are conducted to find evidence. That evidence can either prove somebody did something wrong or prove that they didn’t. Common sense says if you do not want an investigation to take place at all, odds are there is something to hide. Some will say that it is because the league can’t be trusted to fairly conduct an investigation but that is just a red herring designed to garner public sympathy from fans who dislike Goodell.

    Affidavits can be constructed by lawyers so that even the guilty seem innocent. There will be technicalities in the written word that won’t be there if asked a direct question. Saying “I did not take HGH” is a very specific answer to an unasked question and it means nothing. During the interview, the question “Did you take any PEDs or banned substances cannot be answered that way. They must answer yes or no. If no, and they did take a PED other than HGH then the player adds lying to the list of disciplinary infractions. THAT is why they won’t interview and will only provide a carefully crafted affidavit. Florio knows this and that is why I will be shocked if this comment gets posted at all. Better to let folks believe the anti-management stuff than allow genuine discussion.

  22. As a fan I would be willing to lose regular season games if the players strike to get a new CBA. Fans will support the players because the strike wouldn’t be about money. Fans as a whole (or at least the ones I interact with) think Goodell has too much power, acts like a dictator & is bias & vindictive with a clear agenda. I think Goodell would be the villain in a strike scenario & the NFL flaunts it’s major sports domination arrogantly. I think they would cave rather quickly if the players did strike, rather than “tarnish” the shield by having a strike threaten regular season games. Something has to give. The NFL is like Rome. They became so powerful that they thought they were unbeatable and spread themselves too thin. Moving games out of the country is a bad bad idea as is all the tinkering with rules in the name of “safety”, i.e., “we got our asses handed to us in the concussion lawsuit”.

  23. Kansas City got screwed for tampering.Losing a draft pick. What do the Jets get, a slap on the wrist for tampering with Revis. How did that Mevis signing turn out. Little bit of cap trouble now.

  24. So, any time anyone gets investigated now, Patriot fans will come swarming talking about how they “warned” us.
    No you didn’t. You don’t care about anyone else, you only bring it up in an attempt to enlarge your victimhood group. Were you sticking up for the Dolphins or the Saints? Nope. Just like Robert Kraft, you stood gleefully by as the witch hunts progressed, smugly mocking their fans.
    In one sentence you call Peyton and others PED cheats, then in the same breath imply that they’re being unfairly targeted by a rogue commissioner. Which is it? Your inconsistency belies your motives. You just want to wail and moan about poor Tom Brady. Maybe if he kept his trap shut like Belichick always preaches instead of shoving the rulebook in the Ravens’ faces he wouldn’t be in this mess.
    Pathetic.

  25. Charlie Sly, the student intern who was the primary source for the Manning allegations in “The Dark Side,” didn’t even work at the clinic until 2013, two years after the five-time league MVP received treatment for a neck injury, Guyer said.

    That’s the facts. Manning had surgeries in 2011 and was released by the colts. He was not even on a roster in all of 2011. Charlie Sly also recanted his story.

  26. A pats fan and I recommend all of these players not give up their personal cell phone and don’t conduct an interview without a lawyer and the nflpa present. NFL is corrupt and will do whatever they want so don’t assist them.

  27. All about power.
    Just setting things up to stick it to the players in the next CBA. Unless they are prepared to endure a work stoppage, Goodell is going to continue to run wild.

  28. Is The Rog terrible, yes. But what have we seen almost every time there has been an accusation about PEDs…it turns out to be true. These are just the latest bunch of guys to get busted for using. The longer they can delay the story, the closer everyone is to just not caring. Does any fan actually care anymore about who uses? They play the games, win or lose and life continues for everyone.

  29. “I’m just doing the interview so I don’t get fined”. But have your story straight on the things that can be proven, a new phone with none of the records of the old phone available and be prepared to say “I do not recall but that may be because of concussion like symptoms brought on by years of football”. Look, everybody will cheat if given the chance at least to a point (lineman and defensive backs hold, receivers push off, QB’s move just enough to draw off sides, GM’s stash players and money away) and Roger is just doing what the people who pay him 30 million a year want him to do. Make the game look straight. And we lap it up even in July.

  30. Failure to allow for the interview will be indefinite suspension for all active players. That is from the NFL front office. See you boys next year maybe.

  31. usdcoyotesfan says:
    Jul 22, 2016 6:41 PM
    I think Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers should be suspended. You shouldn’t be allowed to be that good.

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    Peppers has had a PED suspension already in his career….as has Mike Neal. Jason Riley and Charles Sly must have succeeded where Ponce De Leon had failed and delivered their clients a fountain of youth.

  32. Brady interviewed for hours. Brady was deposed under oath. These guys won’t interview? Here it is boys…The serial liar Goodell and article 46…good luck

  33. boogerhut says:
    Jul 22, 2016 7:33 PM

    Charlie Sly, the student intern who was the primary source for the Manning allegations in “The Dark Side,” didn’t even work at the clinic until 2013, two years after the five-time league MVP received treatment for a neck injury, Guyer said.

    That’s the facts. Manning had surgeries in 2011 and was released by the colts. He was not even on a roster in all of 2011. Charlie Sly also recanted his story.
    __________________________________
    Doing a little “word smithing” with your copy and paste technique I see.

  34. “Interview?” Hahahaha! I’m holding out until the NFL requires them to model this winter’s new fashions on the red carpet. The NFL is a farce.

  35. I dont know whats better, that clay roid mathews is going to start to get drug tested or all the butthurt pats fans. Those guys never stop crying just like little tammy.

  36. Will people criticize these players and attack their character because of their PED use or do these players not have enough wins to be criticized – we’ll see

  37. Seriously i wish the players would lob the finger to Goodell and the scumbag owners and form their own league with all new owners just to shove it up the NFLs arses.

    Im sick and tired of story after story of these scumbags Goodell and his 32 employers acting like idiots and making everything about them. Goodell is such an egomaniac, he has Zero integrity but he appointed himself keeper of the integrity of the game.

    MLB has a Goodell wannabe in Manfred. Adam Silver is the only Commish that gets it

  38. gwhite13 says:
    Jul 22, 2016 6:26 PM
    Nothing is going to come from this.

    Simple exercise in optics.

    The golden one must come out clean…just saying
    ____________________________
    You took the words right out of my mouth. This is completely for show and will go nowhere. God forbid they find any real evidence. It would get swept under the carpet. They can’t let anything tarnish their golden QB.

  39. Goodell needs no proof to suspend them for 4 games

    Just suspicion

    All those fans chortling about Brady where not only was there no evidence – as admitted in court by Goodell – but there was evidence he was innocent in the NFL’s own PSI which failed to account for the cold, as they also admit) are now beginning to realize they were pretty stupid to back Goodell

    Goodell also thinks he has prima nocta with all NFL brides too!

  40. bostonpatriots1stfan says:
    Jul 22, 2016 8:23 PM
    boogerhut says:
    Jul 22, 2016 7:33 PM

    Charlie Sly, the student intern who was the primary source for the Manning allegations in “The Dark Side,” didn’t even work at the clinic until 2013, two years after the five-time league MVP received treatment for a neck injury, Guyer said.

    That’s the facts. Manning had surgeries in 2011 and was released by the colts. He was not even on a roster in all of 2011. Charlie Sly also recanted his story.
    __________________________________
    Doing a little “word smithing” with your copy and paste technique I see

    Yup. Beats moronically retyping something already typed. It’s almost like that’s why they invented copy paste huh. I wonder if there’s a way to track how many times pars fans cut and pasted “ideal gas law”. At least I understand the meaning of my paste whereas not one pats fan understands why the “ideal gas law” has nothing to do with the atmosphere pumped into a football. Nope, you all just cut, paste, and parrot. Saddest fanbase in the NFL.

  41. If you are not guilty do the interveiw. But the fact of the matter is they know the bs they’ll tell him will be called out. If there’s no evidence and u did nothing wrong just tell the man. Today’s youth try to find anything to get out of being responsible for their actions. Everyone knows that there are a lot of nfl players on the juice they just got caught. Tell the truth and move on. Smh

  42. So, in the real world – if an anonymous tip is sent via the whistleblower line, etc – an investigation must take place.

    Employees are called to a meeting. If they refuse – they are fired. If it is a union shop – they have their weingarten rights, and can bring a union rep to the meeting.

    If nothing comes of it, investigation over. If they find evidence, then other decisions are made.

    So – if the players are truly innocent – why are they concerned over having a conversation?

  43. The one thing everyone forgets is that Harrison was trash as a player for two years and he thinks about retirement. Then wow, he comes back and is a great player again. Not easy to understand why.

  44. Don’t forget the Vikings (15 games for AP), If i recall correct l by the Vikings opted to put him on that list. That was there doing and probably why he felt entitled to that extra money when returning after being “disrespected” witb a full season of pay.

  45. As a Packer fan I support Goodell in whatever decision he makes. I love football and want it to be as clean as possible. If Goodell thinks they broke the rules they should be subject to the PED rules already in place. As for Capt. Dink and Dunk (Manning) put an asterisks next to his latest Superbowl as well. It is getting old watching cheaters prosper in the NFL. Goodell needs to make an example out of these people and ban them for life. Until cheating becomes excruciatingly painful it will continue.

  46. All these guys have already agreed to be interviewed………weeks ago. It’s the NFLPA that won’t let them.

  47. Actual orange and blue Pats fans would have sided with common sense regardless of who the accused was. Its the guys like you being disingenuous on this issue. Or am supposed to pretend it’s a certain level of indignation and not just grasping at any flimsy straw to keep Brady out games that fuels you.

    Ps to the credible evidence crowd. The report came from a source that has ten times the credibility of the Wells Report.

  48. Lol .. some people need to get over themselves. Al Jazeera is an internationally respected news organization that has won Peabody awards, etc.

    The article had under cover video of the person making the claims.

    I’m not sure why people feel the need to make it sound like some hack with no credentials and no experience is making things up.

    An interview seems reasonable but i’m sure there will be many many many comments by pissed off patriots fans.

    Have at it …

  49. If you’re not guilty of anything, why not just give the interview and clear your name?

    Where there’s smoke there’s fire, perhaps?

  50. eagleswin says:
    Jul 23, 2016 7:38

    The article had under cover video of the person making the claims.

    I’m not sure why people feel the need to make it sound like some hack with no credentials and no experience is making things up.
    ___________________

    Maybe it’s the person making claims I don’t trust, I mean maybe he is trying to boost the company he works for as the next Biogenesis or Balco.

    Those people do tend to be shady.

  51. Looks like the Packers Broncos and Steelers each need to lose two first and third round picks and fined 4 million per team since its not the teams first offense cheating the game

  52. 75rockrasin says:
    Jul 23, 2016 8:52 AM
    If you’re not guilty of anything, why not just give the interview and clear your name?

    Where there’s smoke there’s fire, perhaps?
    ==================================
    Do you really believe that? Brady swore under oath. The commissioner lied in support of his falsified statements. Brady lost. The commissioner’s actions were upheld by the courts. So do you really believe the concept that where there’s smoke there is fire? Do you really believe that it’s now as simple as give the interview and clear your name?

  53. The should also be investigating half of Seattles roster also..

    *OG John Moffitt(2011)
    •RB Vai Taua (2011)
    •OT Allen Barbre (2012)
    •SS Winston Guy (2012)
    •CB Brandon Browner (2012)
    •CB Richard Sherman (2012) – positive test, won appeal on technicality
    •DE Bruce Irvin (2013)

    Shehawks* = Tainted

  54. “Actual orange and blue Pats fans would have sided with common sense regardless of who the accused was. Its the guys like you being disingenuous on this issue. Or am supposed to pretend it’s a certain level of indignation and not just grasping at any flimsy straw to keep Brady out games that fuels you.”

    ****

    To be fair, I am referring to the Pats trolls who look for any tenuous connection to Deflategate and then wail away as if it was the greatest injustice known to mankind, i.e PFT posters.
    As far as grasping at straws, I laugh. I couldn’t care less if Brady plays or not. Von owns him, and you know it. That Jedi mind trick might work on Jets or Bills fans, but us Bronco fans know better.

  55. “Do you really believe that? Brady swore under oath. The commissioner lied in support of his falsified statements. Brady lost. The commissioner’s actions were upheld by the courts. So do you really believe the concept that where there’s smoke there is fire? Do you really believe that it’s now as simple as give the interview and clear your name?”

    ****

    Yes.
    Only delusional Pats fans swore by his innocence in the face of monumental evidence to the contrary. The court has spoken. Not some former Jet employees in the NFL offices, but the Second Circuit. That’s right, the labor-friendly judges upheld it. So, here’s a thought: Maybe he actually IS guilty. *gasp* Maybe people who don’t routinely destroy phones, and then destroy the one that has evidence on it are IN FACT hiding something. Maybe people who lie about urinals are lying for a reason. Maybe people who stand in front of the media and say they don’t THINK they’re cheaters, kind of are.
    I guess when he files that billion dollar defamation suit we’ll all find out, huh? lmao

  56. bostonpatriots1stfan says:
    Jul 22, 2016 8:23 PM
    boogerhut says:
    Jul 22, 2016 7:33 PM

    Charlie Sly, the student intern who was the primary source for the Manning allegations in “The Dark Side,” didn’t even work at the clinic until 2013, two years after the five-time league MVP received treatment for a neck injury, Guyer said.

    That’s the facts. Manning had surgeries in 2011 and was released by the colts. He was not even on a roster in all of 2011. Charlie Sly also recanted his story.
    __________________________________
    Doing a little “word smithing” with your copy and paste technique I see

    Yup. Beats moronically retyping something already typed. It’s almost like that’s why they invented copy paste huh. I wonder if there’s a way to track how many times pars fans cut and pasted “ideal gas law”. At least I understand the meaning of my paste whereas not one pats fan understands why the “ideal gas law” has nothing to do with the atmosphere pumped into a football. Nope, you all just cut, paste, and parrot. Saddest fanbase in the NFL.
    —————————————————————
    The more you type, cut and paste or whatever the more ignorant you sound. You should stop but your IQ level doesn’t permit you to see the folly in your comments. ” the “ideal gas law” has nothing to do with the atmosphere pumped into a football.” Sure, you’re amazing! I always wondered why tires deflate in the cold and expand in the heat. Now thanks to your amazing revelation I can no longer believe it was the air temperature that had everything to do with it. My God those pesky tires did it all by themselves! I’m gonna keep a close eye on those little rascals. Thanks for correcting scientists and professors all across the country.

  57. orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Jul 23, 2016 11:56 AM
    “Yes.
    Only delusional Pats fans swore by his innocence in the face of monumental evidence to the contrary. ”
    —————————————————————-
    Pray tell? When asked what direct evidence there was linking Brady to a scheme to deflate footballs the answer was no, there’s no smoking gun. Besides Goodell himself the case was no longer about air it was about his right to do what he wants. They couldn’t stand on that “monumental evidence”. They could stand on the players accepting Goodells right to be judge, juror and arbitor. He was right about that. He and the NFL were dead wrong about the deflating of footballs and they knew it. Eventually.

  58. @ orange and blue cheat the NFL, multiple times :

    Von* owns? Brady?

    BAHAHAHHAHA!!

    Von* owns several connections to Steroid dealers.

    Were it not for juicing his whole career, he’d be a free safety in the CFL

    Donkeys* = serial Cap and PED cheaters.

    TAINTED Titles*

  59. But wait! I thought the Seahawks were the only team using PEDs? Why aren’t any of THEM on this list? Could it be that the trolls have been wrong?

    And, BTW, is there ANYONE on the planet who didn’t already know that Clay Matthews was juicing? I mean look at him. He’s like the poster child for steroids.

  60. You guys do know that the steelers are the only team who didn’t jump out of their seats to sign the last CBA because they thought Goodell had too much power right? The Rooneys were standing up to Goodell while Kraft was having martinis with him on his luxury charter bus.

  61. The NFL is flexing its muscle once again, because it can.
    As has been noted, the badly negotiated CBA, gave Goodell
    overreaching powers, with very few safeguards. For those
    snickering, or who say it’s no big deal, just go along with it,
    I say, just wait till he comes after your team and players –
    you’ll be singing a different tune.

    Kudos to the Steelers players for nixing the deal.
    Too bad others didn’t follow their example.
    Now, the players have to eat it, until the deal is up, but
    till then, we shouldn’t blame players for pushing back,
    even if it seems trivial to those not involved.

  62. The Rooney’s standing up to Rodger, sure he was. Tomlinson try’s to trip a player running for a td and got basically no punishment. Porter in the Cincinnati huddle witch caused the bengals to loose the game, still no punishment. Alao in the same Cincinnati/Steelers game Geo Bernard gets speared right in the head by a Steeler LB running out the clock for the win, and not even a flag. But yet when Cincinnati retaliate against AB of course Cincinnati gets flaged so the Steelers could win the game. So ya the Rooney’s will sand up to their good buddy Rodge, I’m sure they will!

  63. imodan says:
    Jul 23, 2016 12:37 PM
    orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Jul 23, 2016 11:56 AM
    “Yes.
    Only delusional Pats fans swore by his innocence in the face of monumental evidence to the contrary. ”
    —————————————————————-
    Pray tell? When asked what direct evidence there was linking Brady to a scheme to deflate footballs the answer was no, there’s no smoking gun. Besides Goodell himself the case was no longer about air it was about his right to do what he wants. They couldn’t stand on that “monumental evidence”. They could stand on the players accepting Goodells right to be judge, juror and arbitor. He was right about that. He and the NFL were dead wrong about the deflating of footballs and they knew it. Eventually.
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Not to rehash the arguments from both sides in the Brady case but “no direct evidence” does not mean “no evidence at all” They asked if there was any direct evidence. Direct evidence in the scheme would include any text or email or recorded conversation (or admission) that expressly says to deflate the balls or hide the process. There was no such admission or any video evidence of actual deflation. There was a bunch of circumstantial evidence but that was not what was asked in your reference. I don’t think there was quite enough for me to make that call but it was Roger’s call, not ours.

  64. seattlesue427 says:
    Jul 23, 2016 12:53 PM

    And, BTW, is there ANYONE on the planet who didn’t already know that Clay Matthews was juicing? I mean look at him. He’s like the poster child for steroids.

    ——————–

    That’s your criteria???? I hope someone with your analytical skills never sits on a jury. I hope you are not typical of the brainpower of Seattle fandom.

  65. Patriots fans, we get it. You’re angry that Brady got caught cheating and finally has to serve his punishment. Get over it and stop making every other story about your sore losing. You’re embarassaing yourselves.

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