Rick Spielman calls out those who bash Teddy Bridgewater

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Friday’s PFT Live from U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis included a visit from the guy who built not the team’s new house but the team that will play there. And G.M. Rick Spielman talked at some length about the first-round quarterback who enters his third NFL season.

At a time when teammates rave about Teddy Bridgewater (“growth” was the most common word used by players we interviewed), some believe Bridgewater won’t become a franchise quarterback, pointing to the fact that he threw only 14 touchdowns passes in 2014 and only 14 again in 2015.

Spielman called criticism of Bridgewater “unfair,” explaining that “he is doing what our coaches are asking him to do.”

“One thing Coach Zimmer does preach to all our players is team first and however we’re going to have to win this game this week,” Spielman said. “If we’re going to have to run the ball 30 times, that’s what we’re going to do. If we have to throw the ball, that’s what we’re going to do. If we’re going to have to play good defense and ball control, whatever we have to do to win this week, that’s the most important thing. Teddy going into his second year last year, to go 11-5 and win the division, to go up there and beat Green Bay in Green Bay [for the NFC North title] and then play well in that playoff game against Seattle. I think people undervalue what Teddy brings to this football team, and the most important thing is when you look at the end of the day is wins and losses and Teddy is definitely a winner.”

When called upon to move the offense late in games, Bridgewater has done that on several occasions. And if Blair Walsh hadn’t missed a chip-shot field goal at the end of the wild-card game against the Seahawks, Bridgewater would have been heralded for setting up the victory by slicing through one of the best defenses in the league.

“There are games if you go through his first two years that he has shown he does have the ability in pressure situations to come through when we need him to make some plays,” Spielman said. “I think he had the least amount of pass attempts last year in the NFL as well, so a lot of that has to do with the game planning and how we’re going to win football games. But I don’t think anyone in our building has any doubt that if we have Teddy throw the ball 40 or 50 times, if that’s the way we have to win or if he has to go out there and throw the ball at the end of the game for us to win that he has that ability to do that.”

He may end up with plenty of chances to do that in 2016, on a national stage. With four prime-time games, a Thanksgiving game, and several other high-profile Sunday afternoon matchups (Panthers, Texans, Cardinals, Packers), whatever Bridgewater does this year will be noticed a lot more than it was in past years.

136 responses to “Rick Spielman calls out those who bash Teddy Bridgewater

  1. “X calls out X for X reasons, calling them haters.” m I the only one sick of the constant call out culture?

  2. Ted Thompson calls out food orders. That’s how he gets his guys to respond. And it works.

  3. Sorry, folks, but when your kicker is the only player to score any of your team’s points in a playoff game, your QB is going to get dragged over the coals.

    Only one way to change that perception, and it’s the same as it’s ever been.

  4. Not a Vike fan per se but living in Minny I see Rick Spielman time and again stealing the draft. Sooner or later those picks all come to roost in the form of a top competitive team.
    The Packers are not as good even with Rogers. The obvious difference is the Vikes have a lot of skill players on both sides the ball. The Packers have a couple of skill players on both sides the ball.
    Honestly I don’t see the Pack making the playoffs. Just a lack of real talent on this team. Keep in mind all the teams that got a lot better this off season who were also rans last year and that the Pack did little to improve.
    Teddy B is a smart guy. He has done well so far. Took them to the div champs last year. This year plays all the games inside on a fast track not outdoors. People who count him out are fools.

  5. I didnt know people were bashing Bridgewater, other than Packer fans on sites like this. But thats rivalry smack talk. If he comes up third when taking about good young QBs (Bortles, Carr) its because to date he is third to those guys. I think Bridgewater is doing just fine, he was a good pick. Just because your not head over heals over him doesnt make you a hater. The vikes come across a little sensitive over this.

  6. Minnesota has a ball control offense, they had more running plays than any other team. If Teddy complained about not getting enough pass plays called he would be called out on that, so we have to look at just WHO is doing the name calling. Those people don’t matter in the least.
    The haters should be thrilled he is the QB!

  7. Teddy is lowkey good. Idc if he throws 10 touchdowns a year, if he makes the playoffs and wins championships while Blake bottles or Derek broken Carr doesn’t that’s all that matters. Carr is the best outta the 3 but it doesn’t matter cause he can’t win

  8. I would be embarrassed too and try to defend my poor choices if I was responsible for terrible draft picks and to be part of a team that his a long history of choking all the time.

    Rick Spielman is the worst GM in the NFCN, possibly the entire league.

    The Vikings have ZERO Championships.

    ZERO.

  9. I love the Vikings, and I am holding all judgements for Bridgewater until we see him play with some semblance of an NFL caliber O-Line. I agree that he has been harped on too much. He was a young QB that was pressured the most out of any QB last year. Let’s extend a little grace for his play (which really wasn’t that bad)

  10. dsheik says:
    Jul 24, 2016 1:15 PM
    I didnt know people were bashing Bridgewater, other than Packer fans on sites like this. But thats rivalry smack talk. If he comes up third when taking about good young QBs (Bortles, Carr) its because to date he is third to those guys. I think Bridgewater is doing just fine, he was a good pick. Just because your not head over heals over him doesnt make you a hater. The vikes come across a little sensitive over this.
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    Perfectly stated. Either Rick is listening to Packers fans or there are others who he actually respects who know the same things we do. It says a lot when a GM has to defend a player against a rival’s fan base.

  11. Hmmm… I don’t recall an interview where Wallace called Teddy “trash”?? Anybody??? It must’ve gotten lost in that troll fantasyland. If that did happen ESPN and/or the NFL Network would’ve been ALL over it. Anyway, glad, Rick supports Teddy as do his teammates and most fans. Can’t wait for this great season to start for our Vikes!!! And as for being sensitive, no, just seriously sick and tired of jealous TROLLS!!!

  12. When you have one of the worst pass blocking offensive lines and Norv Turner is running an offense that features slow developing 5 and 7 step drops, with a mediocre receiving corp, not shocking that the QB’s numbers are mediocre. Bridgewater certainly hasn’t set the world on fire, but he’s been accurate and has performed well given the situation, and it’s led to pretty good success for the team. On the other end of the spectrum you’ve got his draft mate Blake Bortles who has put up the gaudy numbers with 35 TDs the past year, but also throwing 18 ints, fumbling it a whopping 14 times, and only completing 58% of his passes. I think you take the steady, accurate qb with meager numbers than the boom or bust guy.

  13. Does anybody ACTUALLY read these articles in full?? Really, do you? Just asking. Because I honestly don’t think most of you do. You see the headline. Maybe, and that’s a BIG maybe skim it over… then write the same thing over and over again. Remember, the Vikings just opened their stadium, Rick was asked this question. He didn’t go out of his way to defend his QB. He answered it honestly. Jeez, you act like he held a press conference to defend Teddy. Give us all a break already!

  14. Fan bases jab one another all the time – so it’s really no big deal if Theodore catches a little flak – certain Viking fans give it to Rodgers all the time … and that’s no big deal either. The only thing that counts is what happens once the regular season begins – and more than likely we’ll have a better idea of how good a QB Bridgewater is once this year is over.

    For the first time in eons, the Vikings will be playing a first place schedule, so they’ll be seeing a bit of an upgrade in the quality of their opponents. And they’ll be playing home games in their nice warm glass stadium, so their tootsies will nice and comfy for the entire 60 minutes – so no excuses there either.

    And if they are successful, that means they’ll no longer be drafting in the first half of the NFL draft – which they’ve done ever since Denny Green left, so we’ll see how long the ‘genius’ tag fits Spielman – especially if he’s force to pay Teddy twenty-some million per season in a couple of years.

    And then of course, come the inevitable injuries … every team gets ’em … let’s see if their roster is deep enough to survive ’em. They have a talented but ancient running back, and some real questions at reciever – so time will tell. Maybe yes, maybe no. Regular season kickoff is forty-some days away … and then we’ll see.

  15. arnoldziffel says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:16 PM

    For the first time in eons, the Vikings will be playing a first place schedule, so they’ll be seeing a bit of an upgrade in the quality of their opponents.
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    You are aware aren’t you the schedule is on a rotating basis and has nothing to do with a winning record?

    I hope you are also aware that EVERY team in the NFC North plays the SAME schedule with the exception of 2 games. This has been the case for over a decade.

    This means the Packers have also had an easy schedule for “eons” based on your post.

  16. It’s amazing that a qb, as bad as these Packers fans thinks he is, actually beat the Packers on their home field on the final game of the season with the division title on the line. How is that even possible?

  17. So he averages fewer than 1TD per game over two seasons? Dang, this guy is more useless than I previously believed.

  18. Spielman called criticism of Bridgewater “unfair,” explaining that “he is doing what our coaches are asking him to do.”

    Except he can’t do any of it without the use of a performance enhancing tool.

  19. when your team relies on running the ball (ball control) and playing defense with a “dont turn the ball over” mentality on offense, then yes you are in fact a game manager qb. As far as I know that has been the knock on Bridgewater. Cant get mad when people call a big yellow bus a big yellow bus.

  20. Personally, I don’t care about a QB’s individual stats. The only relevant stat is Wins & Losses. If a QB can win with 15-20 TDs a season along with 200-250 yards/game, it doesn’t matter as long as there is a ‘W’ after the game.
    What’s the point if a QB throws for 35+ TDs and 350 yards a game over the season if the TEAM loses?
    This obsession with individual stats is pointless and not a true barometer of a winning QB. Note, I said WINNING QB.

  21. I think the jury’s still out on Bridgewater. But “Norv” Turner has to be the most overrated OC in league history. He got his rep. in Dallas where the offense consisted of a boatload of future HOFers who even a chimpanzee could’ve been successful with. He never did a really good job anywhere else. And as a HC he was awful.

  22. Doesn’t anyone ACTUALLY listen to me or do I just have this incoherent stupid rants and argue with myself? Truthfully, Teddy isn’t very good and needs bigger hands and a much stronger arm. I really dislike being Viking fan, but I’m very obese and not good looking at all so fit in with being a Viking fan. My husband beats me cause I’m so obese.

  23. Is it considered “Bashing” if you give a a fair assessment of him? Someone whom is supposed to be a FRANCHISE QB?

    He was better his first year than his second, had fewer than 18 completions in 11 of his games played including the post season. Has a B grade arm strength. lacks anticipation when his Receivers would get open.

    I think it is COMPLETELY fair, for fans to ask for a QB to PROOVE it, Just as many are with Derek Carr, Manziel, and Bortles. Just like many of them weren’t sold on Cam Newton during his down years after a great rookie year, Vince Young and RG3, have shown some players only have one or 2 good seasons.

  24. dino2997 says:

    Ok, we won’t bash him. Let the stats speak for itself.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Fine by me. 11 wins and only 5 losses.

    Works for me.

  25. This sounds more like lighting a fire under Bridgewater than admonishing his critics. Maybe Speilman should consider giving Teddy a feminine sounding nickname, as so many Viking fans are prone to do to opposing players. They must think it forces manliness onto someone. Maybe that would be enough motivation to avoid being labeled a first round bust. What do you think Viking fans? Would your time-worn and immature proclivity to give grown men feminine sounding nicknames be an effective motivational technique for Teddy? Any suggestions for a new name?

  26. Take the ball out of the QBs hands and rely on the defense and run game to control the clock and win games, just like Seattle. Only difference is Min fans are not delusional that the QB is the reason they win games like Seattle fans are.

  27. That is much better than having to call out players for showing up to camp fat and unmotivated.

    And speaking of motivation the only thing Mike McCarthy is motivated to bash are 3 cheese bacon butter burgers.

  28. The Vikings better hope all those high draft picks pay off quick, because they have a hell of an expensive new stadium to pay off. Sergeant Noddlearm will have to ignore the constant pounding both from defensive linemen, and the sound of all the birds bouncing off their glass sand crawler. Speaking of wounded ducks, Captain Checkdown is completely planning on teams not figuring him out by now, without any irony because there’s nothing to figure out. “I have a ton of weapons at my exposure; and I can’t wait to get everyone going.” -Tarvaris Bridgewater. Ha to the Ha.

  29. Very likeable kid. No big issues with him other than him holding the ball too long. Fair to say he isn’t a franchise QB. Not sure he will ever be one. Certainly good enough to win with the defense Zim has. So he isn’t your fantasy QB. SHUT UP. Not the way we play ball. Run the ball and stop you on defense. Old school football the way it was meant to be played. I love it and I trust Zim.

  30. @screamingyellowzonkers

    Great job showing your ignorance.

    The Vikings finished first in the North, which means they play all of the teams that finished first in the NFC this coming year. That is why its called a first place schedule.

    Of course as the Vikings rarely finish first we could expect your type of comment.

  31. Bridgewater was the 22nd rated QB last year. Stafford was 9th. Rodgers was 15th. Cutler was 16th. Teddy had 9 interceptions to go with his paltry 14 TD passes. That’s a lot of picks for someone who was 21st in pass attempts. He isn’t that great. Last year he was the worst QB in the division.

  32. A borderline average player at best and the GM excuse is…“he is doing what our coaches are asking him to do.”..Wonderland is nice when the tools aren’t there.

  33. Does Bridgewater actually win those games or does he not lose them for the Vikings?

    Dilfer has a Super Bowl ring but no one believes he won that game.

  34. You’d think Bridgewater would be better given that he has AP in the backfield. You’d think you could do play action all day long. Compare that the Lions. Stafford could do play action but I don’t any team fears the Lions running game. Bridgewater was sacked as many times as Stafford last year despite having 100 fewer attempts. Is it the Vikings O-Line or is Bridgewater holding the ball too long?

  35. “Stop throwing Teddy Bear at the dogs, children! They tear the stuffing out of him. Look, he only has one eye, and his limbs are dangling by a thread…..”.

  36. scmems07 says:
    Jul 24, 2016 3:37 PM
    Take the ball out of the QBs hands and rely on the defense and run game to control the clock and win games, just like Seattle. Only difference is Min fans are not delusional that the QB is the reason they win games like Seattle fans are.
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    Wilson played great without Lynch, and the last 6 games of the seeason he threw for over 1600 yards, and over 20 TDs. He deserves credit for helping that team win down the stretch.

    Everyone gives the Seahawks D credit, Wilson stepped his game up a LOT last year, which is what you expect from Franchise QBs. Whether you like Seattle or not they handled his development right, they had a strong run game and Defense and won a SB with it, then continued to add more and more to his plate while trying to find him offensive weapons.

    While after Theodore’s very good foundation, of a rookie year, AP came back and instead of fusing and making an offense grow, they stunted the QBs growth.

  37. tremoluxman says:
    Jul 24, 2016 3:15 PM
    Personally, I don’t care about a QB’s individual stats. The only relevant stat is Wins & Losses.

    This obsession with individual stats is pointless and not a true barometer of a winning QB. Note, I said WINNING QB.
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    Wilson, Newton, Rodgers, Brady, and Roethlisberger, all put up solid numbers, more importantly its usually with consistency which is huge in the NFL.

    The big reason I consider Theodore’s stats to be important, is because AP is going to be gone before long and passing should be the easier for him with teams stacking the box, using Play Action, and either coaches don’t trust him or there is lack of confidence somewhere, and if he can’t start throwing 25 TDs a season, or doesn’t improve upon that Ryan Tannehill like QB rating, people are going to question if he is a Franchise QB.

  38. Spielman has done a magnificent job of drafting good players. I think the Vikings are loaded with young studs on defense. However, you generally need a great QB to win the super bowl. There are always going to a few exceptions, but you really do need an excellent QB. Teddy is average at best. He’s young and will most likely improve. Hopefully he can get there while Peterson is still a dominant RB. Other than Bridgewater, the Vikings have the best roster in the NFC.

  39. Honestly, the guy reminds me of an Aaron Rodgers except way ahead of where Aaron was in his 3rd year (still riding the pines) and is a winner instead of a stay padder. He always makes the smart play and puts his team in the best position to succeed.

  40. Who are these people bashing B’Water?

    Do people just make up perceived slights now?

  41. It’s not only packer fans that think teddy sucks. The combination of Vikings fans, teddy and the child beater makes the Vikings hard to root for.

  42. Bridgewater stinks!! Former Browns GM Ray Farmer liked him… tells you all you need to know.

  43. dino2997 says:

    Ok, we won’t bash him. Let the stats speak for itself.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Fine by me. 11 wins and only 5 losses.

    Works for me.

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    0 NFC Championships
    0 SB Championships

  44. “He’s doing what the coaches are asking him to do.” 28 TDs in 2 years. Doesn’t it stand to reason that the coaches aren’t asking him to do more because they think he isn’t capable of doing more, at least to this point?

    Reminds me a little of Chad Pennington, which is not a horrible guy to be compared to. Good head on his shoulders, limited arm talent.

  45. dino2997 says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:12 PM
    Ok, we won’t bash him. Let the stats speak for itself. 14 TD passes in 17 games last season.

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    Wow, not 45? Or 38 or even 34? Not 32? Not even 38 or 27? Get out. Not 24? Not even 22 or 20? C’mon, not even 19 or 17? He starts, right? Not 16? Or even 14? Wow. Wow.

  46. After being subjected to Christian Ponder, Teddy is like Joe Montana to me. I am very happy with his growth to date and think it would be a huge mistake to change direction at this point.

  47. I believe most of the old wishbone college QBs back in the day threw more than 14 TDs in a season. In 10 games. When their teams ran for 250+ yards per contest.

    But I admit I MIGHT be wrong on this….

  48. Bridgewater was the 22nd rated QB last year. Stafford was 9th. Rodgers was 15th. Cutler was 16th. Teddy had 9 interceptions to go with his paltry 14 TD passes. That’s a lot of picks for someone who was 21st in pass attempts. He isn’t that great. Last year he was the worst QB in the division.

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    And yet, he somehow managed to go 5-1 against them collectively.

  49. Vikings fans are so funny. I can see the braggadocio this time next year: “Bridgewater upped his TDs by almost 30% last year (2016), which was #1 in the league. What does that say about YOUR QB??”

  50. I believe Teddy Bridgewater is a good football player.. I also understand that Blake Bortles and David Carr are superior athletes, especially when it comes to the skills that make people who throw footballs the best. This is not an attack on Mr. Bridewater. However I feel it is the best interest of all parties that we consider the most important elements of athletic skill in comparing our QB’s so we can properly evaluate performance and ability for the purposes of entertainment. We are certain that Mr. Bridgewater is an upstanding human being, with feelings, emotions and capacity for understanding of the human condition.

    This comment been brought to you by the PC Sports commentators bureau

  51. “tremoluxman says:
    Jul 24, 2016 3:15 PM
    Personally, I don’t care about a QB’s individual stats. The only relevant stat is Wins & Losses. If a QB can win with 15-20 TDs a season along with 200-250 yards/game, it doesn’t matter as long as there is a ‘W’ after the game.
    What’s the point if a QB throws for 35+ TDs and 350 yards a game over the season if the TEAM loses?
    This obsession with individual stats is pointless and not a true barometer of a winning QB. Note, I said WINNING QB.”

    Funny, I thought winning was a team accomplishment but good to know it is just the QB that factors in.

    So a QB could turn the ball over a bunch of times, be useless, the team wins and he should be praised for that? That’s logical.

    Judging QBs by the team’s record is as dumb as strictly judging QBs by stats. There is a balance between the two. One thing you will also see is that usually the QBs with the good stats are also QBs with winning records.

    Oh and you asking what the point is if a QB has a monster season and the team loses…the point is to show the front office sucked at building a TEAM. Clearly, if a QB has huge games (and not just junk time/stats) and they are losing then it is NOT him.

    QBs don’t play defense. QBs don’t hand off to themselves. QBs don’t coach. QBs aren’t lightning rods to “make everyone around them great” as the media narrative likes to pretend. Hard for some to grasp all this but it is true.

    Just incredible how some fans think the ultimate team sport in the world is a one man show. You can also tell which fans have never played a team sport by those types of comments.

    As for Teddy, the guy seems decent but I am skeptical he will be considered a franchise QB but I also won’t be surprised if he ends up being one.

  52. cheeseisfattening says:
    Jul 24, 2016 3:57 PM
    That is much better than having to call out players for showing up to camp fat and unmotivated. And speaking of motivation the only thing Mike McCarthy is motivated to bash are 3 cheese bacon butter burgers.
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    I don’t think Speilman was complaining of Bridgewater getting filled with fat and calories simply because he was now in Minnesota, as most visitors do. He’s simply afraid Bridgewater may have to play without gloves due to some new rules, and his small hand size may become more evident than ever.

  53. Anyone’s guess if TB has the ability to consistently complete in a pass-first offense. Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Big Ben can and do, so that’s probably the standard some question or hope he can reach.

    I hope not. I enjoy Minnesota’s tough, ground and pound ball control scheme and Bridgewater has done a nice job with it. It is also an excellent compliment to the defense which is often off the field quickly. Many of those 14-tds came when Minnesota faced critical situations to stay in a game. He was often forced to ‘flip the switch’ and while I am not a pro QB, something tells me it isn’t easy.

    Like another poster said: 11-5. I’ll take it.

  54. Teddy Bridgewater is in the same category as Alex Smith. The only reason he hasn’t received more criticism is because Mike Zimmer is a great coach that has made a great defense. Take out AP and Mike Zimmer and we’d all be screaming BUST.

    Mike Zimmer is a winner.

  55. irishgary says:
    Jul 24, 2016 4:13 PM

    @screamingyellowzonkers

    Great job showing your ignorance.

    The Vikings finished first in the North, which means they play all of the teams that finished first in the NFC this coming year. That is why its called a first place schedule.

    Of course as the Vikings rarely finish first we could expect your type of comment.
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    Sigh.

    The Vikings/Packers/Lions and Bears will all play the same schedule sans 2 games vs. the NFC West and South teams that finished in the same position.

    For the Vikings that is Arizona and Carolina
    Green Bay plays Seattle and Atlanta
    Chicago plays San Fransisco and Tampa Bay
    Detroit plays LA Rams and New Orleans

    Any of these teams could slide way down, or climb the ladder. For example, last year’s Packer “1st place schedule” saw a (4-8) Dallas Cowboys team late in the year.

    As for your Vikings rarely finishing first comment, you may want to check the numbers on division championships.

  56. Let’s all move on from the Blair Walsh, missed FG game. That wasn’t a game. As a Seahawks fan, I don’t consider it a win or a loss.
    Yes, they played in idiotically cold, windy weather. Meant nothing to either team as far as being representative of talent or rank. I would of preferred they moved the game to a dome.

    You all want to rank Teddy? Find another game to do it on.

  57. I’m a lifelong Packers fan and I believe it is ridiculous to bash Teddy.

    We’ll see what he can do on the football field this season and then, as they say in the law — “res ipsa loquitor” — the thing will speak for itself.

    All the bashing around here comes from the minds of seven year olds.

  58. Vikings’ fans seem to like to give credit to Bridgewater for the teams’ 11-5 record. He’s just one cog on a team that is led by it’s defense and the best running back in the game. When you’re running the 31st best passing game in the league, and your defense and running game are in the Top 5, it’s kind of hard to attribute team success to a quarterback who throws for 200 yards a game and 14 TD’s on the year.

    Take the last game of the season for the NFC North title. Bridgewater goes 10-19 for 99 yards and an INT. The difference in the game is a defensive touchdown. Teddy “gets” win number 11.

    Some QB’s have more to do with their teams’ wins. Some have less. Bridgewater has less to do with his teams’ wins, especially when he’s firing 8 of his 14 TD passes against the Bears and Lions.

    He may end up being really good. He’s still very young and does a lot of good things- but he’s far from proven himself. I don’t understand the need of Vikings’ fans to talk him up so much, rather than just waiting to see what he turns out to be- but right now, TB is not who carries the team.

    The idea of attributing a team record to a QB is stupid. A QB can have a flawless day, throw for 400 yards, 4 TD’s, no INT’s, and still lose a game if the defense is playing poorly.

  59. ^Just to add to the whole “1st place schedule” argument, the entire NFC North plays the weakest divisions in each conference with the AFC South and the NFC East this year. So before you count on a tremendously difficult schedule derailing this train, you may want to actually look at it first.

    BTW, just for you irishgary, I present:

    NFC North/Central Division titles 1970-present

    Minnesota: 17
    Green Bay: 12
    Chicago: 10
    Detroit: 3
    Tampa Bay: 3

  60. Queen fan boys, quit making excuses! Denver had one of the worst offensive lines in the league last year and they won it all. Apparently, Tiny must a perfect team around him until he can be properly evaluated?? Hus??

    Sorry Queen Nation, 14 TDs a year don’t cut it!

  61. fansince68 says:
    Jul 24, 2016 7:37 PM

    I hope not. I enjoy Minnesota’s tough, ground and pound ball control scheme and Bridgewater has done a nice job with it. It is also an excellent compliment to the defense which is often off the field quickly.
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    Really? You honestly enjoy the NFL’s 29rh ranked offense in the league?
    I would’ve thought that an informed Barney fan, like yourself, would set the bar a little higher for your team.
    But hey, you like what you like, I guess.

  62. I don’t care how many TDs Teddy throws. It doesn’t matter. We went 11-5 last year and we are elite and forming a dynasty. So there.

  63. chazthespaz says:
    Jul 24, 2016 8:11 PM
    I don’t care how many TDs Teddy throws. It doesn’t matter. We went 11-5 last year and we are elite and forming a dynasty. So there.
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    Remember when Leon Spinks beat Ali? I guess Spinks was elite.

  64. I do consider myself a fan of Bridgewater. I think in the era of fantasy football where stats are king – with that filter you don’t see Teddy as a star. But, if wins are the measure of success, as it should be, Teddy will become a “franchise” QB. This will be his breakout year.

  65. Just think the Vikings could of Drafted OBJ and Carr in the first round. Lol. Ouch

  66. Teddy is doing just fine for the average Quarterback coming into the league. The problem is perceptions were set completely different for what a qb can do in the last four years by Russell Wilson.

    What Russell did the first four years of his career is extraordinary and anyone trying to judge their new quarterback by the same measure is going to be disappointed.

    Teddy is just fine and will be at the very least serviceable despite his very small hands

  67. “kevpft says:

    Sorry, folks, but when your kicker is the only player to score any of your team’s points in a playoff game, your QB is going to get dragged over the coals.

    Only one way to change that perception, and it’s the same as it’s ever been.”

    No, Blair was not the only player responsible for getting to that point. The defense that shut them down to only 10 points? The offense that got Blair in position 4 times?

    I cannot wait for this season.

  68. It sounds to me like we aren’t only deep inside the heads of Viking fans, but their GM too.

  69. Take the ball out of the QBs hands and rely on the defense and run game to control the clock and win games, just like Seattle. Only difference is Min fans are not delusional that the QB is the reason they win games like Seattle fans are
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    It is not 2014 anymore pay attention.

  70. why would a team ” need to run 30 times a game” to have just a chance of winning?

    Zimmer has already indicated he thinks Bridgewater will win three or more superbowls in his career.

    Spielman and Zimmer are wasting 4-year-old-Scrotum-cutter’s final years as a good RB by pretending they didn’t blow it by selecting buttwater, and they passed on lot of QBs better than buttwater in this year’s draft by being delusional.

  71. LOL @ the Barneys being an elite team.
    I’m sorry, but you need to do better than 3-12 against .500 or better teams to consider yourself elite.
    Maybe even try and score a TD in postseason.

    I’ll say one thing for you guys, your football acumen may be lacking, but we sure do enjoy the laughs.
    Thank you.

  72. shaggytoodle says:
    Jul 24, 2016 8:39 PM

    Elite teams win playoff games. That makes the Vikings less Elite than Joe Flacco.

    Joe Flacco is 10-5 in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is 7-6.

    What point were you trying to make?

  73. stellarperformance says:
    Jul 24, 2016 9:17 PM

    It sounds to me like we aren’t only deep inside the heads of Viking fans, but their GM too.

    —-

    Because of a question Florio asked during his 3 day stint at the brand new US Bank stadium….

    Okay.

  74. stellarperformance says:
    Jul 24, 2016 8:18 PM

    chazthespaz says:
    Jul 24, 2016 8:11 PM
    I don’t care how many TDs Teddy throws. It doesn’t matter. We went 11-5 last year and we are elite and forming a dynasty. So there.
    ///////////////////////////////////////

    Remember when Leon Spinks beat Ali? I guess Spinks was elite.
    ———-

    Remember when you constantly complained about Viking trolls in Packer stories. Oh the hypocrisy.

    PS – Minneapolis routinely ranks in the top 3 in the nation for the most fit cities by nearly every single publication out there. Kudos to Milwaukee for finishing 20th out of 50 in this years American Fitness Index.

  75. skolvikes says:
    Jul 24, 2016 9:22 PM
    Joe Flacco is 10-5 in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is 7-6.

    What point were you trying to make?
    __________

    The Vikings haven’t won a playoff game since 09 and that was with a HOF QB brought it to go all in, the last time a home grown Viking QB won a game, was over a decade ago. While Joe Flacco and Rodgers, both managed to win attain above .500 playoff records and win Super Bowl Titles.

    The point I am making is you need to win something more than divisions to be elite, but Hey in of honor Dennis Green, “If you wanna crown’em, then Crown’em”

  76. skolvikes says:
    Jul 24, 2016 7:59 PM
    ^Just to add to the whole “1st place schedule” argument, the entire NFC North plays the weakest divisions in each conference with the AFC South and the NFC East this year. So before you count on a tremendously difficult schedule derailing this train, you may want to actually look at it first.

    BTW, just for you irishgary, I present:

    NFC North/Central Division titles 1970-present

    Minnesota: 17
    Green Bay: 12
    Chicago: 10
    Detroit: 3
    Tampa Bay: 3

    ///:::://///////////

    This is a really, really, really good point. AND, NFCN titles since 2015? Vikes have one, an infinity of percent over anyone else.

    Sigh…….

  77. shaggytoodle says:
    Jul 24, 2016 9:44 PM
    skolvikes says:
    Jul 24, 2016 9:22 PM
    Joe Flacco is 10-5 in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is 7-6.

    What point were you trying to make?
    __________

    The Vikings haven’t won a playoff game since 09 and that was with a HOF QB brought it to go all in, the last time a home grown Viking QB won a game, was over a decade ago. While Joe Flacco and Rodgers, both managed to win attain above .500 playoff records and win Super Bowl Titles.

    The point I am making is you need to win something more than divisions to be elite, but Hey in of honor Dennis Green, “If you wanna crown’em, then Crown’em”

    0 2
    ————

    Probably should have just said that instead of bringing up Joe Flacco and making yourself look stupid then I guess.

    BTW, How many Packer playoffs wins have come without a HOF QB at the helm?

  78. Teddy is a good QB and he’s the exact person that the Vikings needed desperately. #5 has a high ceiling, has poise, he’s smart and he’s a division winner in only year two. Glad the Vikings drafted him!

  79. Forget stats and just watch the game and notice those QB’s that can thread the needle with great velocity. Then watch how well they can throw a deep 20 yard down and out. Does the ball jump off the QB’s finger tips and arrive in just the spot where only the WR can catch the ball.

    Carr with the Raiders, Eli, Brady, and Rodgers all fit that description, Teddy, not so much.

  80. cribbage12 says:

    This is a really, really, really good point. AND, NFCN titles since 2015? Vikes have one, an infinity of percent over anyone else.

    Sigh…….

    0 1

    —–
    Taken in context to the poster I was replying to that said the Vikings knew little of first place schedules, it makes all the sense in the world.

  81. funny how even with an all pro qb in Rodgers the Packers needed a blown call to give them an extra down to beat the Lions which actually got them into the playoffs. So that would mean that the most valuable player on the Packers is none other than an NFL official because without him the Packers are done. And it actually is the same thing every year.

  82. skolvikes says:
    Jul 24, 2016 10:12 PM

    Probably should have just said that instead of bringing up Joe Flacco and making yourself look stupid then I guess.
    BTW, How many Packer playoffs wins have come without a HOF QB at the helm?
    ________

    I would say that GB has won quite a few Playoff games without a HOF QB at the helm, I don’t think Favre was HOF worthy until after 2000, maybe 98 after 3x MVPs if you REALLY want to push, and Rodgers while he has been able to develop into an elite QB. He most certainly wasn’t a Canton bound for the HOF in his 3 year as a starter when he helped GB win a Superbowl.

    While great coaching, development, and the achievments the have made them into eventual HOF it wasn’t promised early in their career, Much like Joe Flacco may be very good he isn’t HOF material right now.

    The biggest thing that has separated GB and Minnesota the last few decades is one team had success in developing young QBs, and the Vikings have not.

  83. Please….

    Tired of people trying to make excuses for a QB that has a weak arm who struggles to throw down field. He’s a backup at best. And always using supposed, ” lack of talent” at WR is another cop out too.

    Vikings have plenty of WR talent. They have no QB talent and management doesn’t want to admit they missed on Bridgewater.

  84. Too early to compare Bridgewater vs. Carr.

    Carr has had a better line and was throwing to Crabtree and Armani Cooper. Have you seen some of the passes Cooper snags? Who was Teddy throwing to? You can’t even make a fair comparison here.

    Last season Vikings vs. Raiders. Teddy plays smart. Carr throws 3 picks. Carr killed the Raiders.

  85. We’ll all just have to see.

    It’s very unlikely Teddy will be an elite QB given limited arm strength (his arm is strong enough though), but he can certainly be good enough.

    Pack fans bragging about the organizational “development” of QBs is laughable — they hit the lottery twice — check out the succession of other Pack QB draft busts during the same time frame. The only certain thing about drafting NFL QBs is that it is an uncertain science. If anything, Pack fans should be lamenting the fact that they are watching Rodgers MVP/HOF career waste away toward its end with only one Super Bowl while other NFL organizations with decent QBs take advantage of their QB draft luck such as with Brady, Rothlesberger, the two Mannings and even Flacco.

  86. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:41 PM

    arnoldziffel says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:16 PM

    For the first time in eons, the Vikings will be playing a first place schedule, so they’ll be seeing a bit of an upgrade in the quality of their opponents.
    —————————————————————-
    You are aware aren’t you the schedule is on a rotating basis and has nothing to do with a winning record?

    I hope you are also aware that EVERY team in the NFC North plays the SAME schedule with the exception of 2 games. This has been the case for over a decade.

    This means the Packers have also had an easy schedule for “eons” based on your post.

    ************************************************
    Sorry Zonkers,

    But winning the division does count. Case in point, the Vikings will play the Cardinals and the Panthers, who both won their divisions.

    The Packers will play the Falcons and the Titans, and neither team won their division. And if you check their schedules, you will find that neither the Bears or the Lions are playing the Cardinals or the Panthers this season – only the Vikings .. and that is because they won the division in 2015.

    Your “eons” comment doesn’t make any sense … but that’s okay … it’s still summer time. You still have time to do your research.

    Good Luck!

  87. wafflestomp says:
    Jul 24, 2016 8:02 PM

    Really? You honestly enjoy the NFL’s 29rh ranked offense in the league?
    I would’ve thought that an informed Barney fan, like yourself, would set the bar a little higher for your team.
    But hey, you like what you like, I guess.

    _______

    Quoting the great Bill Parcells (I think): stats are for losers. I like winning, and assuming you’re a GB fan I’d think you’d respect that. The Vikings outplayed and outscored your Packers the last time out. I wouldn’t trade the division for better stats.

    I’d rather have a tough, ball control offense than an airshow, but Spielman nailed it: whatever it takes to win. There are no points for style, just wins.

    There isn’t a QB in the NFL (including Rodgers) who wouldn’t love to be where Bridgewater is right now. Sure, there’s room for improvement but come on, that’s the last thing you want to see if you’re on another NFCN team. If it does, Minnesota is the class of the division and maybe the whole NFC.

    No predictions, but I’m excited to watch what happens next. Pretty sure you’re not.

  88. shaggytoodle says:

    The Vikings haven’t won a playoff game since 09 and that was with a HOF QB brought it to go all in, the last time a home grown Viking QB won a game, was over a decade ago. While Joe Flacco and Rodgers, both managed to win attain above .500 playoff records and win Super Bowl Titles.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Teddy has only been in the NFL for tw0 years.

    Rodgers didn’t lead his team to a playoff game until his 5th season (a loss). It took him 6 years to win a playoff game (1 win – 2 losses after 6 years in the league).

    In the last 5 years, Rodgers has 3 wins and 5 losses in the playoffs.

    For a QB that is claimed to be so good, his record in the playoffs in his first 6 seasons sucked.

    And in his last 5 seasons it’s just mediocre.

    Teddy leading his team to the playoffs in year 2, puts him 3 years ahead of Rodgers.

    Teddy’s already won 17 games. It took Rodgers 5 years to match that number.

    Teddy took over a team that finished last in the NFC North. Rodgers took over a team that took the NFC Championship game into overtime.

    Seems to me that the Vikings saw immediate improvement in the team with Bridgewater.

    The Packers saw a deep regression with Rodgers.

  89. Only in fantasy land is he undervalued. Unfortunately most “media” types also live in fantasy land these days. Carr and Bortles get talked up for putting up numbers, but their teams don’t win. Often times, they’re not winning because those guys are throwing terrible, untimely picks. That’s reality.

  90. fansince68 says:
    Jul 25, 2016 2:08 AM

    There isn’t a QB in the NFL (including Rodgers) who wouldn’t love to be where Bridgewater is right now.

    ———
    This may be one of the funniest things I have read on this site in a long time. Good one!

  91. shaggytoodle says:

    The Vikings haven’t won a playoff game since 09 and that was with a HOF QB brought it to go all in, the last time a home grown Viking QB won a game, was over a decade ago.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Shaggy

    Over a DECADE? Oh my gosh…

    I forgot to mention that the Packers went from 1967 all the way until 2010 without winning a single playoff game with a “home grown” QB.

    That’s over half a century!!!

    Don’t you just hate it when the facts kick you right in the assets…. 😀

  92. Teddy gets respect from the people that matter: his teammates, his coaches, his GM, and obviously an unbelievable amount of fans. The only people mocking him and “disrespecting” him are the trolls out there who really have nothing better to do than come up with infantile one-liners about a man they know nothing about.

  93. vikingforlife says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:09 PM

    Does anybody ACTUALLY read these articles in full?? Really, do you? Just asking. Because I honestly don’t think most of you do. You see the headline. Maybe, and that’s a BIG maybe skim it over… then write the same thing over and over again. Remember, the Vikings just opened their stadium, Rick was asked this question. He didn’t go out of his way to defend his QB. He answered it honestly. Jeez, you act like he held a press conference to defend Teddy. Give us all a break already

    ———————————-
    Usually I would agree with that argument, but the headline doesn’t say, “Rick Spielman hosts press conference at US Bank Stadium.” The article is about Teddy Bridgewater, so the comments are too.

  94. purpleguy says:
    Jul 25, 2016 12:16 AM

    Pack fans bragging about the organizational “development” of QBs is laughable — they hit the lottery twice — check out the succession of other Pack QB draft busts during the same time frame. The only certain thing about drafting
    _________________

    You can say what all you want about luck, but people that but in hard work and effort create there own they believe in drafting for the system and development.

    While Favre and Rodgers are the most popular Packers QBS as they have stayed with the team they also had players like Aaron Brooks who went to a pro bowl, Buerlien (know spelling is whack) and Hassleback.

    So it has more to do with than just luck, and GB has ANOTHER sold young Qb in Hundley.

  95. Teddy is a bottom tier QB and everyone knows this. He will never be anything more than avg. The Vikings will take a big step back this season.

  96. I forgot to mention that the Packers went from 1967 all the way until 2010 without winning a single playoff game with a “home grown” QB.

    That’s over half a century!!!

    Don’t you just hate it when the facts kick you right in the assets….😀
    ________
    The Packers coaching staff helped turn Favreinto a a HOFer, like it or not their finger prints are ALL over it, while the Vikings have struggled which is why the go to FA to get Cunningham, Moons, Favre’ and McNabb because they keep whiffing on QBs. They were pro bowlers in there previous stops, and heck it actually meant something back then.

    If you want to say his 2 INTs on 4 Atts. in his one season in ATL, makes him not homegrown… then so be it. That would be the equal to thumping your chest about division titles and not seeing the Vikings win an NFL title.

  97. shaggy

    Homegrown means you drafted them.

    Favre wasn’t drafted by GB.

    Even if I let you claim Favre – the Packers still went 25 years without a playoff win from a “homegrown” QB.

    And you diss us because of a decade?

    It’s only been since January 2005 when Duante Culpepper defeated the Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau… 😀

    Remember him – the QB that Denny Green drafted in 2009…

    Then there are the other playoff winning QB’s – Wade Wilson, Tommy Kramer, Bobby Lee, Fran Tarkenton and Joe Kapp – all of whom started their NFL careers in MN.

    This covers the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. So for only 90’s did the Vikings not win a playoff game with a QB that started their NFL career in MN.

    I can’t believe how deep you can dig a hole. But then Packer fans have trouble with facts.

  98. gtodriver-

    Rodgers didn’t have the same opportunities that Bridgewater had, since he was playing behind Brett Favre. We’ll never know what he would or wouldn’t have done had he started immediately, so there is no basis for comparison early in their careers, as Rodgers didn’t even start until his 4th year in the league.

    Rodgers played really well in his first playoff start. He threw for 420 yards (completing 67% of his passes) and 4 TD’s and 1 INT, and he ran for another TD, despite getting sacked 5 times. The Green bay defense gave up over 500 yards.
    One of those sacks resulted in a fumble, which cost the Packers the game in OT.

    Of course, to say that Rodgers playoff record “sucked” in his first 6 years is ludicrous hyperbole. He didn’t play in his first three seasons, except in mop up time. His team didn’t make the playoffs in 2008, lost to the Cardinals in 2009, and won the Super Bowl in 2010.

    Your facts about Rodgers initial playoff record are wrong.
    If you’re talking about his first 6 seasons as a starter, his playoff record was 5-4, with a Super Bowl victory. I don’t think that sucks. And if you’re talking about his playoff record after 6 seasons total (2005-2010), his playoff record was 4-1.

    But again, if you follow football at all, you know that a QB W-L record can be misleading, as what occurs in games is dependent upon both sides of the ball.

    Teddy hasn’t won 17 games. The Minnesota Vikings have won 17 games while Teddy Bridgewater is their quarterback. Having a top 5 running game and a top 5 defense may have a bit to do with the Vikings’ recent success.

    I never heard the idea that the Packers saw a “great regression” with Rodgers, which is a very odd statement, considering that they spent a first round pick on him. I’ve never heard those knowledgeable about the NFL raise that issue either. But if you’re idea of regression is winning a Super Bowl, getting your team to the playoffs on a consistent basis, throwing 265 TD passes to 65 INT’s, and being the all-time leader in passer rating, I think you’ve hit the nail right on the head.

    I still don’t get the comparison of Bridgewater to Rodgers at this stage. RG3 took his team to the playoffs in his first year. Steve Young didn’t start and win his first playoff game until 1992. What does it matter? Comparing Bridgewater to any established QB is silly.

  99. “I never heard the idea that the Packers saw a “great regression” with Rodgers…”

    Frank

    What do you call having a 6 – 10 season as a first year starter (4th year in the NFL) when your team was 13 – 3 the year before? That’s the biggest single season “regression” in the history of the Green Bay Packers.

    Teddy took over a team that had gone 5 – 10 – 1 the year before and in his rookie season was pressed into service due to an injury. In his 12 starts he led the team to 6 wins. He backed that up by leading his team to the NFC North Championship.

    FWIW – if Rodgers was so good when he was drafted – why didn’t McCarthy try starting him in 2005?

    Favre sucked that year – the Packers went 4 – 12. Farve was a turnover machine with 29 INT’s. Why not put Rodgers in?

    Comparing QB’s is silly?

    To a certain extent I agree with you.

    Trying to compare Teddy, as a second year player, to what Rodgers did in the prime of his career is silly.

    But that seems to be how Packer fans and you want to play the game.

    You don’t like it when we put things in a chronological perspective – because Rodgers sucks when you look at things year by year.

  100. In Rodgers first year as a starteer 7 of the 10 games lost was by 5 points or less with Rodgers tying or giving the team in the second half in many of those games.

    So Favre has a bad year so GB should bench him?

    Viking fans are so goofy. They try making Bridgewater “Better than Rodgers” because he started earlier in his career. If Rodgers was replacing some awful QB like Ponder he WOULD have started earlier but he was waiting to replace a first ballot HOF that not only lead the Packers to another NFC title game in the 07 season, he then years later went on to take the Vikings to an NFC title game.

    Yet you think that should somehow be a knock on Rodgers? Some of you fans are more silly that I thought.

  101. shaggytoodle says:

    So Favre has a bad year so GB should bench him?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    When Favre came off a terrible season (4 – 12), and then starts the next season 1 – 4, yes.

    Especially when the lone victory was against the winless Detroit Lions (who went 3 – 13 that year).

    Yup, at the point that Farve, and the Packers, had gone 5 – 16 since the start of the 2005 season, and Farve throwing 35 INT’s.

    Benching Favre would have been considered, if you had an NFL quality backup QB on your roster.

    McCarthy didn’t think he had one.

  102. dino2997 says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:12 PM

    Ok, we won’t bash him. Let the stats speak for itself. 14 TD passes in 17 games last season.
    ———————————————————-And 11 Wins, My WINS trump your TD passes…
    BTW when did the NFL start playing 17 games a season?

  103. gtodriver-

    I’m sure that you’re right and others who know football are wrong. Aaron Rodgers, a Super Bowl MVP and champion, two-time league MVP as voted by the AP and PFWA, the all-time leader in passer rating whose team has had a record of 80-39 while he is at the helm, who is characterized by many Vikings’ fans, such as yourself, according to you, “sucks”.

    Did Hall-of-Famer Fran Tarkenton, with a losing playoff record, and an 80.4 career rating, who once had a rating of 14.1 in a Super Bowl game, and played with some of the best defenses ever, “suck”?

    I don’t think either of those QB’s suck. I don’t think Dan Fouts or Dan Marino sucks. In fact, even Jay Cutler doesn’t suck.

    When you’re talking about bad QB’s, guys that “suck”, I’m thinking of guys like Ponder, Jamarcus Russell, Bob Avellini, and a host of bad QB’s that have played or barely got to play.

    I don’t think Aaron Rodgers “sucks”. But hey, I’m sure you know better than his peers that vote him into the Pro Bowl, pro football writers, the folks over at Pro Football Focus who rank the Packers as number 1 in their QB situation, and a bunch of ex-QB’s and announcers, and present and past coaches.

    Also, you said:

    FWIW – if Rodgers was so good when he was drafted – why didn’t McCarthy try starting him in 2005?

    First of all, who said that he was “so good” (whatever that means) when he was drafted.

    Also, do you really think they were going to pull Favre for a rookie? Seriously?

    I could counter with “If Bridgewater was so good when he was drafted, why didn’t Zimmer try starting him?”

    It wasn’t like Bridgewater was playing behind Brett Favre. We are only talking about journeyman Matt Cassel. I mean, Matt Cassel only started 6 games the prior year for the Vikings, and put up 11 TD’s and 9 INT’s.

    Obviously, neither team saw any reason to rush them into action. It wasn’t a reflection on either player. If they didn’t think either player was good, they wouldn’t have drafted them in the first place. You should know that. You’re the QB expert, after all.

  104. packers0and16 says:
    Jul 29, 2016 8:48 AM

    dino2997 says:
    Jul 24, 2016 2:12 PM

    Ok, we won’t bash him. Let the stats speak for itself. 14 TD passes in 17 games last season.
    ———————————————————-And 11 Wins, My WINS trump your TD passes…
    BTW when did the NFL start playing 17 games a season?
    ==================================
    Wins and losses are a team stat. While the team was 11-5 in the regular season while he QB’d them, it doesn’t mean that he was directly responsible for each win or loss. In fact, the Vikings had the #5 defense and one of the best running backs in the game, while the passing game was 31st in the league. Teams have 11 players on the field on both offense and defense, and they as well as other players on the roster determine the success of the team. Some players have a greater impact than others. For the Vikings, their defensive unit was far more important than their QB, as was Adrian Peterson. Did you know that in the final regular season game against the Packers, Teddy Bridgewater went 10-19 for 99 yards and an interception, and the difference in the game was a defensive touchdown for the Vikings?

    The Vikings played 17 games last year. 16 regular season, and the home playoff loss.

  105. Let’s just call it like it is…Bridgewater sucks! I didn’t expect him to put up elite numbers last year but I was very disappointed in his performance. He does not look like he has the skills to become a really good qb.

  106. He has the upside of a game manager. At worst, he’s a competent back up. At least it wasn’t a total bust.

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