Source: Mannings allowed NFL to see all relevant documents

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Throughout the investigation arising from the allegations in an Al Jazeera documentary regarding quarterback Peyton Manning, one clear path existed to getting to the bottom of the situation: Reviewing all relevant documents in the possession, custody, or control of the Guyer Institute regarding the treatment Manning and his wife received.

Although the statement released by the NFL seemed a bit vague on this point, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation tells PFT that, indeed, all relevant documents was provided to the NFL regarding the treatment the Mannings received.

Per the source, Peyton Manning was interviewed by the league recently. The session was lengthy and thorough.

Some may still say that the league didn’t try hard enough or that documents were falsified or anything other than, “The case should now be closed.” While skepticism often has its place, there’s really nothing more that can be done other than to accept that the NFL looked into the situation, that the Mannings cooperated fully, and that there was no credible evidence of a PED violation.

But if there are lingering suspicions that, a year after the NFL applied a scorched-earth approach to the Patriots and quarterback Tom Brady, the league didn’t pursue Manning aggressively enough, the NFL can blame only itself for allowing over the past few years a perception to arise that investigations are conducted with the desired ending point firmly in mind. That perception works to the detriment not only of the NFL but also to the detriment of people like Peyton Manning, who deserves the type of clear, unequivocal exoneration that becomes impossible if some have a plausible basis to decline to accept the league at its word.

In this specific case, there’s no reason not to accept the league at its word.

140 responses to “Source: Mannings allowed NFL to see all relevant documents

  1. “all relevant documents was provided”

    But did he hand over his personal cell phone? Goodell made a big deal about this with Brady so this standard should now be applied to all players.

  2. Plz…..he’s had almost a year to clean house. We knew whet the verdict would be….we Patriots are not surprised in the least.

  3. There is absolutely no reason to believe anything the NFL league office has to say.

    They have been caught in lie after lie after lie….

    The Manning “investigation” was a sham and everyone knows it.

  4. I will never take the NFL at its word. Goodell and his sycophants are proven liars. His day will come.

  5. And Manning got to decide what was “relevant” over the past 6 months. And who is to doubt the word of a guy who assaults women?

    At least the NFL is consistent – they always get the investigative result they want.

  6. This “Dr.” Guyer is a career criminal, linked to a $200 million Ponzi scheme, tax evasion and illegally receiving HGH.

    Sounds like a guy a billionaire athlete would take his wife to!

  7. See how fast an investigation can be completed when you turn over all relevant information….if Brady had a ounce of integrity deflategate would have been over just as quick…..

  8. No one cares if Pats fans believe this. Manning proved his innocence by cooperating with the investigators. Case closed.

  9. The NFL got all the documents that Manning didn’t have Ari Fleischer shred at the Guyer Institute. It’s pretty sad how Brady and Manning both had the same amount of circumstantial evidence against them yet the narratives driven by the owners, league office, media, and fans have led to two completely different outcomes.

  10. “In this specific case, there’s no reason not to accept the league at its word.”

    None except on general principle. I never thought I’d be missing Paul Tagliabue.

  11. No mention that Manning’s lawyer made a visit to the Guyer Institute, where he was allowed access to the Mannings’ files, hm?

    I mean, saying that Manning allowed complete access – AFTER his files were cleared first – is ludicrous.

    Anyway, you’re right that it’s over and it’s not worth an ulcer to keep it alive. But that doesn’t change the truth. None what the league says or does or issues on Twitter in all-caps, will change the truth.

  12. Manning sends 2 goons to the clinic and the accusers house whose family called 911 to destroy evidence and that’s ok for the NFL. No investigation, no personal device request, no cooperation under oath just a blanket whitewash. Yeah everyone believes you roger. Worst commissioner in pro sports in America and its not even close.

  13. Not just the NFL’s ultra-sluggish approach 8 months after the trail has been cleaned, it’s sadly Manning who’s partly to blame – threatening witnesses’ elderly parents and sending his own clean-up team, along with news coming back around of his book (and father’s comments) trying to destroy the reputation of the female victim of his t-bagging/mooning/assault. All of it paints an unfortunate picture. And all of it entirely avoidable.

  14. That’s what cooperation looks like. Destroying evidence is not cooperation. That kind of behavior is worthy of suspension.

  15. this ain’t over….goodell thinks he can treat the nfl customer like a fool over and over and over.

    1. ray rice did not strike his wife and there is no video.
    2. brady had to have deflate balls down .5 psi to be a great qb and throw the ball well.
    3. gomer manning never used peds even though he pulled a clemens and tried to hide behind his wife, with everyone (with a brain and honesty) knowing he is lying.

    this is far from
    over…he cannot keep obviously lying like this and not expect it to be a problem for the league long term

  16. “In this specific case, there’s no reason not to accept the league at its word.”

    Except they’ve proved themselves to be liars and scoundrels. I don’t trust a thing they say.

  17. The NFL leaked erroneous information that 11/12 footballs were 2 under 2 PSI to start framegate, and never bothered to correct the erroneous PSI levels .They outright LIED!! where is the outrage over that ?!
    The NFL leaked emails from Tom regarding pool covers and other irrelevant issues.
    So where are the leaks regarding exactly what medical condition Mannings wife has ? Strange they haven’t leaked that since , they were so quick to embarrass Tom and the Patriots.

  18. The NFL got all the documents that Manning didn’t have Ari Fleischer shred at the Guyer Institute. It’s pretty sad how Brady and Manning both had the same amount of circumstantial evidence against them yet the narratives driven by the owners, league office, media, and fans have led to two completely different outcomes.
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    Probably dumbest comment on here. How do you know the “same circumstantial evidence” against Tom and Peyton?! Where there with the NFL to reveal all of the documents that Manning made available to NFL investigators?! NO YOU KNOW NOTHING, MAYBE EVEN LESS THAN NOTHING!!!

  19. NO offense to Payton Manning. However, your comments about not looking further into this because the NFL said to makes no sense. I bet if we look back at deflategate, you would have also at one point said that Tom Brady should take his punishment because the evidence was too strong. The NFL needs to totally clean house of the NFL offices to gain any respect back and have the public actually believe they anything they say.

  20. Interesting times that we live in today! All you have to do is make any sort of outrageous accusations against someone and it is that persons job to prove their innocence. It matters not whether that person is guilty of the offense all that matters is the seriousness of the charges! Fools!!!!

  21. Lol no doubt he used hgh. You think he was gonna stop at stem cells being injected into his neck? Weak excuse blaming his wife.

    Im waiting for the wells report

  22. For those of you who insist Brady should have cooperated and turned over his cell phone, has it ever occurred to you maybe Brady had something to hide? His plan all along was to make Deflategate about failure to cooperate with the league instead of about tampering of footballs?

  23. The funniest part of Manning sending those 2 guys to Charlie Sly’s parents house is that it got Sly to then say on the record:

    “Whatever it was I said, it wasn’t true”.

    Imagine the outrage if Brady had sent 2 guys to the deflator’s house.

    Lmao (at you, NFL)

  24. Take notes gentlemen this is how u get cleared by the NFL. COOPERATE !! DO AS ASKED AND U TOO CAN BE FOUND INNOCENT. PS IT ALSO HELPS TO ACTUALLY BE INNOCENT.

  25. Former players don’t have to hand over their cell phs.

    Neither do current ones, but don’t let that fact get in the way of your Brady didn’t cooperate mantra.

  26. In this specific case, there’s no reason not to accept the league at its word.
    ____________________________________

    An American corporation already on the hot seat. No, no reason to worry about their ability to tell the truth in mainstream media outlets.

    After all, the only current American Presidential candidate (with the backing of massive American corporations) just got done lying to the FBI on multiple accounts with respects to revealing National Security secrets to foreign entities. And these big corporations continue to back this LIAR to the end. Even when she publicly says to American Military soldiers deaths “What difference does it make”.

    So no reason to worry about them lying when their own butts are on the line, right? Right?

  27. NFL is all over the dart board with how much they investigate things.
    Deflategate -18 months….SMH
    Spygate – 4 days.
    Where is the balance there? Talk about lingering suspicions.lol
    Definitely a love/ hate relationship for Goodell/ Pats Nation

  28. Where is the published report, Roger, Id love to see Peytons answer as to why he sent goons who posed as police officers to Charlie Slys house

  29. Manning used intimidation tactics and had a cleaning crew cover the paper trail.

    Per Brady court case, the NFL stated in court that they had no evidence against Brady. It was a complete frame job.

    The funny aspect is that one of the qualities the current commissioner
    (Goodall) is integrity. Where is his integrity? He has none.

  30. One investigation was designed looking for an excuse to execute the was looking for an excuse to exonerate. It’s all about how they want to reverse enigineer the “evidence”.

  31. It’s really funny how innocent people like Peyton fully cooperate and offer everything up, then guilty people like Tom Shady destroy evidence.

  32. The Manning’s are royalty. There’s nothing Al Jazeera could ever do or say that will change that. Any one who believed them were fooled. How does that feel fools?

  33. I’m guessing the league’s through interview went:

    NFL: “Peyton, did you take PED’s?”
    Peyton: “No.”
    NFL: “Are you sure?”
    Peyton: “Yes.”
    NFL: “Cool, can you get us a discount on Papa John’s?”

  34. So the standard has been set by a former player and Harrison is still strutting around talking tough, which plays well with the lemmings.

  35. Can’t throw a football 10 feet because of nerve damage, then his wife gets a massive shipment of HGH (just to keep her looks), then all of a sudden he can throw again just enough to win a Super Bowl and ride off in the sunset.
    Yep, nothing to see here guys, smile and wave at that giant forehead.

  36. ESPN Breaking News!

    Mort reports that Peyton showed several clips from his NFL sponsor commercials and willingly bowed down when Roger Goodell entered the interview room. He was exonerated shortly thereafter. Steven A Smith yelled Ahem as he tried to grovel for an interview while informing everyone how astute he is.

    Stay turn for more….

  37. “All you have to do is make any sort of outrageous accusations against someone…”

    I agree in principle, but this was hardly outrageous:
    1. Guy who provides PEDs for a living says privately ‘yeah, we gave HGH to player X”
    2. Player X’s people admit HGH sent to his home
    3. Aging Player X was recovering from what many believed was career-ending surgery at the time.
    4. Player X has a historic, career-best season immediately following the HGH delivery
    5. Player X’s performance drops precipitously the following season

    That is a textbook PED pattern, and is much stronger evidence than other high-profile NFL discipline cases

  38. dbfan, its called “guilt through emotional tagging” and doesn’t have to rely on evidence.

    Just have a powerful organization drop a line or two about anyone and voila! GUILTY!

  39. Has anyone explained why a healthy woman in her 30s would receive HGH from the Guyer Clinic? Furthermore have they explained why even if she needed HGH she would not get an actual prescription from her physician?

  40. He came back from what Indy considered a career ending injury & set most of the records. After HGH starts being more widely tested, his stats fell off a cliff.

    Nope, nothing to see here.

  41. Get over it Patriots, this is not an article about CryBrady or his team.

    Do you guys really think so little of yourselves that you must inject Brady and the team into every single article???

    You are not relevant anymore so stop it.

  42. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jul 25, 2016 9:30 PM

    For those of you who insist Brady should have cooperated and turned over his cell phone, has it ever occurred to you maybe Brady had something to hide?
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    It’s over, Jets fan. Time to turn your troll eye to something else. Perhaps the lousy Jets?

  43. Lol no doubt he used hgh. You think he was gonna stop at stem cells being injected into his neck? Weak excuse blaming his wife.

    ==============================

    Lol – there’s no proven evidence against Mannning and the Hatriots have convicted him. And Peyton cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady and Hatriots think he is framed. Also Brady didn’t fully cooperate, destroyed evidence and lied.

    There’s no evidence Manning sent anyone to Sly’s house and no evidence he destroyed anything. No evidence Manning’s wife took HGH either.

    >

  44. NFL is all over the dart board with how much they investigate things. Deflategate -18 months….SMH Spygate – 4 days. Where is the balance there? Talk about lingering suspicions.lol Definitely a love/ hate relationship for Goodell/ Pats Nation

    =========================== The deflategate report came out within 4 months after the AFCCG. It’s the appeals that have taken 18 months. Wells was hired because of all the suspicious things the NFL security uncovered. If there was nothing suspicious then the NFL wouldn’t have hired Wells.

    >

  45. One investigation was designed looking for an excuse to execute the was looking for an excuse to exonerate. It’s all about how they want to reverse enigineer the “evidence”.

    ===========================

    Brady looked guilty from the beginning. Manning looked innocent.

    Brady didn’t fully cooperate. Manning fully cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady

    They found nothing against Manning

    See how that works

    >

  46. Doesn’t he support that moron Trump so he can get a tax break?
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    Crooked Hillary is such an upgrade…NOT!

  47. Its sad that anyone cares about this or the Brady thing. There are more important things in this world to care about

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    Integrity is an important trait to teach our kids. Brady lacks integrity and it’s disappointing he’s a poor role model. >

  48. Manning used intimidation tactics and had a cleaning crew cover the paper trail.

    Per Brady court case, the NFL stated in court that they had no evidence against Brady. It was a complete frame job.

    The funny aspect is that one of the qualities the current commissioner (Goodall) is integrity. Where is his integrity? He has none.

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    What’s your source that Manning used intimidation tactics and destroyed evidence. Just cause someone reports it doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s only hearsay.

    The NFL stated they had no direct evidence, but they had mountains of circumstantial evidence. And Brady lied and didn’t fully cooperate. Brady is the one that lacks integrity.

    >

  49. Lets just put the steroids in my wifes name, nobody will know

    -Peyton Manning

    ===========================

    Where’s your proof that Ashley Manning took steroids? It’s all hearsay.

    >

  50. So will the NFL leak all of Manning documents like they did with Tom Brady’s text messages that reporters keep claiming that Brady refused to co-operate?

    If Brady didn’t co-operate then how did the NFL get all Tom’
    s texts to leak them to the public. The NFL isn’t the only ones treating Peyton Manning totally different then Tom Brady. The media is just as guilty.

    The pool covers and Brady’s opinion of how many years Peyton had left in his playing career where the most memorable leaks from Brady’s phone that people keep claiming he didn’t co-operate with investigators. That’s a bold faced lie. I would have destroyed my phone too.

  51. Everyone hires the cleaner ari fleischer when they get caught and send goons to the clinic and to the house of the accuser who called 911 because they were so scared. Where is the cell phone records, emails, under oath testimony, Ted wells etc. every NFL player should have their stuff mailed to their wives as the precedent has been set. The NFL is a mockery of a sham of a travesty!

  52. Since the Patriots cheat so much, the Pats fans can’t believe there are other teams and players who actually follow the rules.

    “Everybody cheats” is what the Pats fans say, so that makes it okay for their team’s shady shenanigans.

  53. justsayin70 says:

    And he did NOT destroy his cell phone, patsy fans. Lol.
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    no?

    he just had the Guyer institute wipe their files of any incriminating evidence, assuming that they even kept files.

    if you are conducting illegal activities why would they keep files?

    whatever, the league wanted Brady to be found guilty and the league wanted Manning to be found not guilty, mission accomplished.

    Broncos/Colts can do no wrong, integrity?

  54. Although there are a ton of hilarious comments here, I can’t really believe anyone actually thinks Manning didn’t use PEDs or the investigation was anything but a dog and pony show. I mean, you don’t really believe it do you? Put aside your hate for the GOAT Brady and try to look objectively at this case…..Manning is guilty as sin. In fact, having the NFL come to the conclusion that he was “innocent” makes me think he is even more guilty…….we all know how much the NFL lies and tries to control the narrative. Just for a refresher for those who claim Manning cooperated and Brady didn’t:

    Manning: 4 neck surgeries and could hardly grip a football. Let go by the Colts and everyone thought his career was over. Goes overseas for illegal treatment and all of a sudden he signs with Denver and has the best season of his career (save for that SB embarrassment). Story breaks and he is incensed. Threatens defamation lawsuit, doesn’t follow through. Never denies HGH was sent to his home. Hires PR spin doctor. Sends goons to the Guyer Clinic to “review the medical records”(why would you ever need to do that?). Sends two more goons to Sly’s house, impersonating police officers. Sly “recants” his story in the most unbelievable way and admits he doesn’t even know what he is recanting. NFL “investigates” for 7 months, although no one hears a peep and there are multiple reports that NFL has/has not/will/will not investigate. Dust settles and NFL clears Manning without any details, leaks, etc.

    You Manning apologists are truly pathetic.

  55. Lol – there’s no proven evidence against Mannning and the Hatriots have convicted him. And Peyton cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady and Hatriots think he is framed. Also Brady didn’t fully cooperate, destroyed evidence and lied.

    There’s no evidence Manning sent anyone to Sly’s house and no evidence he destroyed anything. No evidence Manning’s wife took HGH either.
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    Why do you say there is no “proven evidence” for Manning but rely on “circumstantial evidence” for Brady. Are you holding them to different standards? Or even worse, are you trying to say there is no circumstantial evidence against Manning? Please enlighten, because your post shows your true colors.

  56. mototax says:
    Jul 25, 2016 7:33 PM

    No one cares if Pats fans believe this. Manning proved his innocence by cooperating with the investigators. Case closed.
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    Great, and no one cares what Roger’s willfully ignorant dupes think…

    20+ Years of NFL Dominance and there is nothing the Trolls can do about, but cry on the message boards…

    Kiss The RingS!

  57. “Peyton Manning . . . deserves the type of clear, unequivocal exoneration that becomes impossible if some have a plausible basis to decline to accept the league at its word.”

    Translation: Mike Florio personally wants to look at the documents.

  58. There is only a single relevant document in this case. One containing a medical diagnosis from Ashley Manning’s physician attesting to the “condition” that requires her to be prescribed HGH. Short of that, no sane person believe the HGH was for her but instead it was for her “roommate” who was at the time recovering from four neck surgeries.

  59. blessedunliketherest says:
    Jul 26, 2016 8:47 AM

    Manning: 4 neck surgeries and could hardly grip a football. Let go by the Colts and everyone thought his career was over. Goes overseas for illegal treatment and all of a sudden he signs with Denver and has the best season of his career (save for that SB embarrassment). Story breaks and he is incensed. Threatens defamation lawsuit, doesn’t follow through. Never denies HGH was sent to his home. Hires PR spin doctor. Sends goons to the Guyer Clinic to “review the medical records”(why would you ever need to do that?). Sends two more goons to Sly’s house, impersonating police officers.
    _____________________________________

    Since “circumstantial evidence” is all that is needed for the Trolls…Here you go.

    Guess he is guilty. Circumstantial evidence says so…

    Forever known as a cheat. “*****” and “tarnish” on every game he has played.

    Right Trolls?

    You’ve all been exposed again as dupes, frauds and liars.

    Trolls lose again!

  60. It is quite mind-blowing to think there are people that believe anything that comes out of 345 Park avenue.

    Truly, in this information age, we have the most gullible people on earth buying into the fairy-tales the NFL wants to sell.

    Manning magically gets “better” not being able to throw a ball 10 yards in the backyard, to being able to set the all time TD record a couple years later.

    Do you think once you take HGH the next day or month you are healed? It was a long, planned, drawn out process wherein he used HGH to rebuild his body to get to a pinnacle in 2013.
    If the above isn’t enough to prove what a fraud he is, then the fact that he could barely play QB last year would cinch it for anyone who isn’t biased against Brady or NE,. It’s clear he was off HGH last year.

    I also get a hearty laugh out of the “recanter crew” who continuously point to Sly “recanting”.
    Really?
    Under pressure, duress and multiple lawyers advising him to do that so he could save his own rear end?
    You actually really believe that recant was a forthright or genuine?
    His original claims came in moments of candor. His “recant” came under the prospect of being torn apart by the Manning machine and many others.
    Are you people really that gullible?

    The only relation to Brady in this obviously bogus exoneration is the overwhelming contrast in how each were treated by the NFL.

    Manning = NFL Golden Boy.
    Brady = Evil Bad guy

    That’s what the NFL is selling, and you fools have bought it hook, line and sinker.

    Beyond that, this has nothing to do with Brady.
    Yet, NE Haters continue to make it about Brady.
    It seems you want to PRETEND to buy into the NFL’s “findings” on Manning* to continue to cut down Brady…..Frauds.

    Manning* = Tarnished

  61. luckyforus says:
    Jul 26, 2016 8:26 AM

    Brady looked guilty from the beginning. Manning looked innocent.

    Brady didn’t fully cooperate. Manning fully cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady

    They found nothing against Manning

    See how that works
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    Brady and the Patriots might have looked guilty because they were lied to by the NFL from the beginning about their “evidence”. Manning was not. (Fact, not Opinion.)

    NFL exposed 56+ times as liars in the Brady case. (Fact, not Opinion.)

    There is circumstantial evidence against Manning as detailed in many credible articles. (Fact, not Opinion.)

    No one knows what they found out about Manning because they didn’t follow the same slanderous path of leaking lies and lying in open court, like they did with Brady. (Fact, not Opinion.)

    Yes, we all see how that works and it exposes NFL and Trolls as duplicitous liars…again…repeatedly.

    0.0 Credibility…as always.

    You keep crying on the message boards and the Patriots will keep winning NFL football games.

    Advantage: Patriots/Patriot Fans

    Trolls lose again!

  62. dsigrey says:
    Jul 25, 2016 7:32 PM
    “I’m done with the NFL. Done…”

    ****

    Bye

  63. dbfan4ever says:

    Interesting times that we live in today! All you have to do is make any sort of outrageous accusations against someone and it is that persons job to prove their innocence. It matters not whether that person is guilty of the offense all that matters is the seriousness of the charges! Fools!!!!

    —————————————————————

    Thank you so much for making the case for Brady’s innocence!

  64. “You’ve all been exposed again as dupes, frauds and liars.

    Trolls lose again!”

    ****

    Peyton exonerated
    Brady suspended
    Broncos derailed last year’s “revenge tour” and will again this year too.
    Brady still has PTSD from the beating Von unleashed on him

    Who lost, again?

  65. “In this specific case, there’s no reason not to accept the league at its word”

    How untrue……..

    How sad……

    How far the mighty have fallen

    NFL —–I wish it was 1980’s again

  66. “That perception works to the detriment not only of the NFL but also to the detriment of people like Peyton Manning, who deserves the type of clear, unequivocal exoneration that becomes impossible if some have a plausible basis to decline to accept the league at its word.”

    Not that anyone at PFT cares, but that is some damn fine writing right there. What a beautiful sentence with complex structure and nuanced language. Well done.

    That is all.

  67. Crooked Hillary should have picked Manning for her VP. They both wiped their servers clean of damning evidence

  68. Great, and no one cares what Roger’s willfully ignorant dupes think…

    20+ Years of NFL Dominance and there is nothing the Trolls can do about, but cry on the message boards…

    Kiss The RingS!

    ============================

    That’s like a crook saying I have more money than you but it’s all stolen. Your trophies are tainted. Bawawawawa

    >

  69. Like Barry Bonds, Manning’s head is shrinking as we speak, now that he’s not ingesting HGH.

    Mannings head had its own gravitational field…

  70. The one and only thing Tom Brady is guilty of is being one of the greatest not play the game. That can’t be said of Manning.

  71. Why do you say there is no “proven evidence” for Manning but rely on “circumstantial evidence” for Brady. Are you holding them to different standards? Or even worse, are you trying to say there is no circumstantial evidence against Manning? Please enlighten, because your post shows your true colors.

    ===========================

    If there’s documented evidence against Peyton, please provide it.

    All the circumstantial evidence against Brady is documented in the Wells report and most of it is not disputed. Plus Brady lied under oath.

    >

  72. dbfan4ever says:
    Jul 25, 2016 9:04 PM

    Interesting times that we live in today! All you have to do is make any sort of outrageous accusations against someone and it is that persons job to prove their innocence. It matters not whether that person is guilty of the offense all that matters is the seriousness of the charges! Fools!!!!
    ————————————————————
    Like Tom Brady…Convicted with NO evidence.

  73. I will never again accept the League “at its word” until they clean house and get rid of every stinky bastard in the current front office.
    FIRE GOODELL and his cronies
    Restore the publics/fans faith in the league.

  74. nhpats says:
    Jul 26, 2016 7:30 AM

    Has anyone explained why a healthy woman in her 30s would receive HGH from the Guyer Clinic? Furthermore have they explained why even if she needed HGH she would not get an actual prescription from her physician?
    ———————

    Of course not.

    Everyone that is an imbecile just takes the word of the duplicitous NFL, a sketchy anti-aging clinic, proven sex offender Manning, and Manning, Inc.

    It doesn’t matter that a quarterback came back from several neck surgeries and had the best season of any quarterback ever, yet two years later, had the worst season of any quarterback ever.

  75. If only Brady had followed the example laid out before him, but then that’s what makes Peyton the GOAT.

  76. There is only a single relevant document in this case. One containing a medical diagnosis from Ashley Manning’s physician attesting to the “condition” that requires her to be prescribed HGH. Short of that, no sane person believe the HGH was for her but instead it was for her “roommate” who was at the time recovering from four neck surgeries.

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    Except there is no documentation that Ashley took HGH. Give it up delusional Cheatriot fans. Your boy was guilty so like a little kid you deflect, whine and blame others.

    Your trophies are tainted, your QB and coach are liars and cheaters. Everyone’s laughing at you. You have nothing because you and your team lack integrity.

    >

  77. orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:08 AM
    “You’ve all been exposed again as dupes, frauds and liars.

    Trolls lose again!”

    ****

    Peyton exonerated
    Brady suspended
    Broncos derailed last year’s “revenge tour” and will again this year too.
    Brady still has PTSD from the beating Von unleashed on him

    Who lost, again?

    —————
    The Broncos have won the same number of SBs this millennium as Tampa Bay. Come back when they win a couple of more. But it is more likely they will fade back into irrelevance for another decade.

  78. Look, no one should be all in with taking the NFL at its word with this investigation. Trust is a hard thing to get back. At the same time, Peyton Manning has don nothing in his past to make me think he “cheated the system” and used HGH to heal faster. In the end, we can never be sure what took place.

  79. If there’s documented evidence against Peyton, please provide it.

    All the circumstantial evidence against Brady is documented in the Wells report and most of it is not disputed. Plus Brady lied under oath.
    __________________________________________

    For months you have been getting the facts wrong and have been getting shut down. For you to say there is no documented evidence against Manning (whatever that means) then point to the Wells report as documented evidence for Brady is pathetic. Even the NFL has distanced itself from the Wells report since it has been shredded six ways from Sunday, including the science being bogus.

    You want documented evidence……Manning sent his goons to the Guyer Clinic to review medical records, etc. BEFORE the NFL investigation. His PR spin doctor has already admitted this. HGH was sent to the Manning household in his wife’s name. Do we have shipping records, no. But no one has since denied that accusation, which is quite telling. There is also documented evidence that Manning sent two other goons to Sly’s house. These guys impersonated police officers. There is even a 911 call to verify since these guys looked/acted sketchy. The next day Sly recants his story is the worst acting job I have ever seen. If this is not evidence enough for you that something shady was going on, you are totally blind.

    And quit with the tainted, cheater, unearned titles crap. The only people “laughing” are loser fans who need to make themselves feel better. The Pats, once again, are odds on favorites to win another SB. TB is widely recognized as the greatest QB of all-time by current and ex-players, writers, insiders, gms, executives, etc. What really doesn’t matter is your opinion…..but I think you already knew that.

    Once again, how did Brady lie under oath? Since you are big on “documented evidence” please provide……

  80. If only Brady had followed the example laid out before him, but then that’s what makes Peyton the GOAT.
    __________________________________________

    Hahaha, no one really believes Peyton is the GOAT. Most have him in the top 5 QBs of all-time, but he is universally not looked at as the GOAT. You can’t be .500 with lack-luster stats in the postseason and be considered the GOAT. That’s common sense.

  81. orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:08 AM

    Peyton exonerated
    Brady suspended
    Broncos derailed last year’s “revenge tour” and will again this year too.
    Brady still has PTSD from the beating Von unleashed on him

    Who lost, again?
    _______________________________________
    Broncos – Biggest PROVEN NFL Cheaters of All Time

    Let’s start there…

    20+ Years of NFL DOMINANCE and you can’t #, nickname or whine on a message board to get around it.

    Since the witch hunt launched the Patriots:

    Won a Super Bowl
    Played in yet another AFC game
    Are favored to win the Super Bowl this season
    Get to evaluate their backup QB in game situations
    Rest their 3 time SB MVP, 2 time NFL MVP, 4 time SB
    winning QB…for the games that really matter. (You mad bro?)
    Mock Roger/Trolls by improving their roster without the stolen draft picks

    Advantage: Patriots/Patriot Fans

    Like I said, Trolls Lose Again!

  82. At the end of the day, if Matthews, Peppers and Harrison get popped it becomes obvious that the NFL let Manning skate to protect his “legacy”. No point in going after a guy who hung them up. Say what you want, but…

    Multiple qualified professors go on record saying science was to blame for footballs losing pressure in cold temperatures – GUILTY

    Peyton Manning has HGH shipped to his home – INNOCENT

  83. luckyforus says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:45 AM

    Except there is no documentation that Ashley took HGH. Give it up delusional Cheatriot fans. Your boy was guilty so like a little kid you deflect, whine and blame others.

    Your trophies are tainted, your QB and coach are liars and cheaters. Everyone’s laughing at you. You have nothing because you and your team lack integrity.
    ______________________________________

    Cried the Troll repeatedly from the Loser’s Circle!

    Just up on NFL.com and didn’t see any of the accusations you are talking about. Like a did 3 months ago, 6 months ago…

    This Troll loves to play “make believe”. They’ve been doing it for months now. Neat! Yay Troll!

    There’s no documentation that TB12 told anyone to deflate balls past the legal limit…Only Roger’s PROVEN lies and the dupes that fell for it. Plenty of documentation there.

    100+ Years of Proven Science?
    or
    56+ Proven NFL Lies?

    20+ Years of NFL Dominance and there is nothing you can do about it, but cry on a message board.

    Trolls Lose Again!

  84. animalkindness says:
    Jul 26, 2016 7:36 AM
    Get over it Patriots, this is not an article about CryBrady or his team.

    Do you guys really think so little of yourselves that you must inject Brady and the team into every single article???

    You are not relevant anymore so stop it.
    ———————
    Uuuuum……..
    Florio put Brady in the article. Reading is a valuable skill, work on it.

  85. orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:43 AM

    If only Brady had followed the example laid out before him,
    ————————

    He did. Goodell didn’t give up his cell phone either.

  86. luckyforus says:
    Jul 26, 2016 8:19 AM

    Lol – there’s no proven evidence against Mannning and the Hatriots have convicted him. And Peyton cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady and Hatriots think he is framed. Also Brady didn’t fully cooperate, destroyed evidence and lied.
    —————————-

    There’s no evidence, circumstantial or proven, that Brady directed anyone to deflate footballs below 12.5PSI. I know you bozos like to believe a bunch of out of season, out of context text messages constitute evidence, but they don’t.

  87. So you are telling us that an old quarterback with multiple neck surgeries, a quarterback who sat out a year and couldnt throw the ball 15 yards because of his severe nerve issues; just all of a sudden shows up in denver and basically destroys every single season passing record in NFL history? Yeah, him Roger Clemons and Barry Bonds are all CLEAN! Definitely NO cheating going on there…

    If people only used that thing which sits atop their neck…

  88. Patriot fans claim that the NFL has a vendetta against the Pats.
    If the NFL really had a vendetta, then why haven’t they revoked the Pats’ Lombardi trophies yet?

    Patriot fans probably think it’s a league conspiracy when they don’t get a toy in their Happy Meal box.

  89. justsayin70 says:
    Jul 26, 2016 11:52 AM

    Pays fans in a tizzy. Lol.
    ____________________________________

    Dominating the NFL for 20+ years will do that to fan base…

    LoL…

    Trolls Lose Again!

  90. johnnycantread says:
    Jul 26, 2016 12:15 PM

    Patriot fans claim that the NFL has a vendetta against the Pats.
    If the NFL really had a vendetta, then why haven’t they revoked the Pats’ Lombardi trophies yet?

    Patriot fans probably think it’s a league conspiracy when they don’t get a toy in their Happy Meal box.
    ———————————————————
    Josh Gordon. Multiple times offender. 4 game suspension to start 2016 season. Allowed to work with team and use team facilities.

    Tom Brady. Proven the infraction occurred naturally. League Icon. Model citizen. 4 game suspension to begin 2016 season. No contact anywhere, any how with any who.

    Peyton Manning. League kisses ass at every opportunity.

    We don’t think it. We damn well know it!

  91. luckyforus says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:20 AM
    Great, and no one cares what Roger’s willfully ignorant dupes think…

    20+ Years of NFL Dominance and there is nothing the Trolls can do about, but cry on the message boards…

    Kiss The RingS!

    ============================

    That’s like a crook saying I have more money than you but it’s all stolen. Your trophies are tainted. Bawawawawa
    _____________________________________

    Nope! That is just your hater troll opinion… You have no other power than that…You are just a Troll on a message board that we enjoy engaging and slapping around from time to time with scientific facts and common logic.

    No other validation or recognition for the sad duped Trolls.

    On the other hand, Patriots/Patriot Fans will go to the official NFL record books for our validation and recognition.

    20+ Years of NFL DOMINANCE!

    Trolls lose again!

  92. luckyforus says:

    “Plus Brady lied under oath.”

    ————————————————————-

    ummmmmm…. when? It is documented that Goodell lied right to the court. and through this process Brady was the only one to testify under oath. No one else. But NO WHERE is it every stated that Brady lied under oath. All of the 56+ lies have come from Goodell and the NFL offices.

  93. I’m sure he turned over everything He thought was relevant.
    Who cares about el Choke-O anyway. The great TB keeps the greatest Dynasty in NFL history rolling.

  94. Tb12 testified under oath, the only person to do so in deflate gate. Not one lie was he caught with. Not one of you haters has an ounce of the character tb12 has, nothing but jealous losers trolling on greatness. Go back to your pathetic and keep dreaming of being somebody. Remember losers try winners do.

  95. The tears of Patriot fans are so delicious, the sweet taste of justice.

  96. Yes I am a Patriot fan, and I have no problem taking the league at its word that Peyton did not use HGH. That does not mean that the league did not royally screw up and prejudge the Brady investigation. Perhaps, they learned to conduct a better investigation.

  97. Here come the whiners again. WAH WAH WAH TAWM TERRIFIC CHEATED SO PEYTON MUST HAVE TOO. WAH WAH WAH THIS STORY DOESN’T FIT OUR “EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET US BECAUSE THEY HATE WINNERS” NARRATIVE.

  98. luckyforus says:
    Jul 26, 2016 8:26 AM

    One investigation was designed looking for an excuse to execute the was looking for an excuse to exonerate. It’s all about how they want to reverse enigineer the “evidence”.

    ===========================

    Brady looked guilty from the beginning. Manning looked innocent.

    Brady didn’t fully cooperate. Manning fully cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady

    They found nothing against Manning

    See how that works
    ……

    lucky, what are you basing that on? Have you somehow got your hands on a copy of the Manning report?

    And why haven’t there been any leaks? Manning should demand the report be made public because the lack of transparency looks very suspicious.

  99. luckyforus says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:45 AM

    Except there is no documentation that Ashley took HGH.
    ……..

    But Peyton’s bizarre denial of the report walked a very neat line around his wife, stopping conspicuously short of saying she never did HGH. Not proof Peyton did it, but definitely points a finger at Ashley.

    and I quote “Any medical treatments that my wife receives, that’s her business,” he said. “That has nothing to do with me. Nothing that was sent to her and my wife has used have I ever taken. Absolutely not. I have my treatments that I do. She may have hers, but that’s her business. There’s no connection between the two.”

    Why not come directly out and say right there that his wife didn’t do HGH? Peyton is smart and calculated guy. If Ashley didn’t do HGH, Peyton must still be sleeping on the couch for that screw up.

  100. Brady looked guilty from the beginning. Manning looked innocent.

    Brady didn’t fully cooperate. Manning fully cooperated.

    There’s mountains of circumstantial evidence against Brady

    They found nothing against Manning

    See how that works ……

    lucky, what are you basing that on? Have you somehow got your hands on a copy of the Manning report?

    And why haven’t there been any leaks? Manning should demand the report be made public because the lack of transparency looks very suspicious.

    =============================

    Brady’s statement that I don’t think I cheat and there was an expert analysis of his body language and speed pattern that let the expert believe he wasn’t telling the truth. I know this is opinion only, not fact

    Manning came out and adamantly denied the allegations. Again opinion

    It was reported by the NFL that both Manning’s fully cooperated and we know Brady and the Pats did not fully cooperate

    The evidence against Brady is documented and they said Manning was innocent so they obviously had no evidence he did anything wrong.

    It doesn’t really matter though, Brady was found guilty and Manning was found innocent. I doubt if Manning cares what people think, since he was found innocent.

    >

  101. orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Jul 26, 2016 10:08 AM

    “You’ve all been exposed again as dupes, frauds and liars.

    Trolls lose again!”

    ****

    Peyton exonerated
    Brady suspended
    Broncos derailed last year’s “revenge tour” and will again this year too.
    Brady still has PTSD from the beating Von unleashed on him

    Who lost, again?
    ….

    Brady was exonerated by science and NFL lies. FACT.
    Peyton is not exonerated until the public can see the report which has bizzarely been leak free by the NFL. FACT

    Von is a proven PED cheater. FACT

  102. luckyforus,
    body language experts, really? , that is what your are hanging your hat on? Sorry physics and brazen NFL lies trump arm chair psychology.

    and you have yet to explain Mannings bizarre denial where he implicates his wife. “Any medical treatments that my wife receives, that’s her business,” he said. “That has nothing to do with me. Nothing that was sent to her and my wife has used have I ever taken. Absolutely not. I have my treatments that I do. She may have hers, but that’s her business. There’s no connection between the two. ”

    or

    or why the only scientific outlet who agrees with the NFL is the one paid by the NFL

    or

    why, if brady likes footballs under 12.5 which he has never said, would he hand the refs a copy of the PSI rule when handing over the gameballs

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