Jim Caldwell doesn’t have to make the playoffs to save his job

AP

New Lions General Manager Bob Quinn surprised a lot of people around the NFL when he retained head coach Jim Caldwell despite the Lions’ 7-9 record in 2015. He may surprise more people by keeping Caldwell around in 2017 even if the Lions don’t make the playoffs in 2016.

Quinn told the Detroit Free Press that Caldwell will be judged on more than just wins and losses or making the playoffs.

There is no mandate of number of wins and there is no mandate of playoffs,” Quinn said.

So how will Quinn decide if Caldwell deserves to keep his job?

“It’s my feel for, like, his coaching style. The decisions he makes for the team. The way he handles the staff and just how competitive a football team we are,” Quinn said. “Jim’s a great man, he’s a great coach, he has great presence with the team. He has unbelievable presence in front of the team, and I know that the players are going to play hard for him. Like, I can see that, already seven months in, that we’re not going to have an issue with guys loafing around on the field. Like, I can’t imagine that would happen this season. So listen, it’s a combination of wins-losses, decision making. How’s he handle the team? How does he handle adversity? Got players go down, I’m trying to shuffle guys in. Can we get those guys up to speed and get them ready to play? It all goes into it; it’s not just one thing.”

In the words of Bill Parcells, however, you are what your record says you are. It seems unlikely that Quinn would keep Caldwell if the Lions miss the playoffs this season, even if Quinn insists there’s no playoff mandate.

47 responses to “Jim Caldwell doesn’t have to make the playoffs to save his job

  1. Lions fans…this the Ford family laughing at you. Again. Like they have for the last 60 years. And will continue to do so forever.

  2. No problem with the answer. They’re not going to fire Caldwell if both, the no. 1 qb, Stafford, and whomever is no. 2 both go down early in the season and they stink up the season to high heaven. More than you guys already expect.

    Make that mandate, and if it happens the way stated above, folks would still clamor for Caldwell’s head and HIS for not sticking to his word if he wanted to keep Caldwell.

    Play the season out. Caldwell is not his hire. He’ll do what he has to, to protect his own job.

  3. “Jim’s a great man.” No, he’s not a great man. Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR and Reagan were great men. Neil Armstrong was a great man. Churchill and Ike were great men. They all contributed to America and the entire world as no football coach could ever do.

  4. No surprise. There isn’t a GM in the NFL that would publicly say there is a playoff mandate for their head coach.

  5. I imagine with Caldwell retires his day will consist of this. Wake up, shower, eat the same 2 eggs and toast. Make tea. Sit in chair and stare at nothing until lunch. Eat same cold ham sandwich. Sit in chair and stare at nothing until dinner. Eat same 1/4 white chicken. Sit in chair and stare at nothing until bedtime.

    Ad infinitum, until the sweet kiss of death embraces him.

  6. Lions will win 4 games, Stafford will leave in the offseason, Quinn will bring in his guy McDaniels and they’ll start over with their own QB.

    Pretty sure this has been the plan all along.

  7. Lions could win 8-9 games. I see the Vikings winning no more than 9. Packers with 5 or 6 losses. Bears with at least 9 losses, as they have a very tough road schedule.

  8. If the playoffs or winning record are a mandate then they might as well fire Caldwell now…..

  9. Affirmative action at its finest. He probabproknows jemele hill from Detroit who thinks he’s the greatest coach in the NFL for one reason only, who will throw a race fueled tirade alongside screamin a Smith if he ever gets fired. It must be nice to get hired and know you can’t be fired only because of your race no matter how incompetent you are.

  10. smokehouse56 says:
    Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR and Reagan were great men. Neil Armstrong was a great man. Churchill and Ike were great men. They all contributed to America and the entire world as no football coach could ever do.
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    You’re joking right? Pretty much every guy who holds a real job outside of the sports/entertainment industry contributes more to the world than football coaches, players, team owners, and player hydration resource technicians. I’ve met service dogs who contribute more to the world than any football coach combined with Roger Goodell.

    It’s football kid. Save the mountaintop speech for the hungover delegates at a political convention.

  11. The Lions’ decades of futility is not a case of bad luck. The Fords continue to hire the wrong people and create the wrong atmosphere. Matt Millen had a mind numbing reign as GM from 2001-2008 for sake. I am not a Lions fan but as a NFL fan I wish the Fords would sell the team to someone who didn’t inherit their wealth and has a competitive spirit.

  12. Lions could win 8-9 games. I see the Vikings winning no more than 9. Packers with 5 or 6 losses. Bears with at least 9 losses, as they have a very tough road schedule.
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    LOLOLOL!!! Thanks for the laugh. Quit drinking the water in Flint, its rotting yur brain.

  13. Kinda sad that Ford takes as much pride in the product they put on the football field as they do with the product they put on the road.

  14. Probably doesn’t want to fire a black coach since the idiots will claim it was a race based decision rather than the fact Jim has shown he is a poor head coach everywhere he has been.

    Must suck to be a Lions fan and deal with such a clueless organization that bathes in their continued ineptitude.

  15. And what if this was Jeff Fisher???

    based on the comments I’ve seen, they wouldn’t even give him a slap on the wrist.

  16. Story lead should be “Jim Caldwell doesn’t have to make the playoffs to keep his job” – there is no story that Caldwell’s job is in jeopardy.
    2015’s 7-9 record was made up of a disastrous 1-7 front half and a 6-2 back half, including the last play loss on the “Hail Mary” against the Packers. Stafford’s QB rating was 110 on the back half of the season. The 6-2 finish saved Caldwell’s job for this season. He proved he could keep his team together and motivated though a terrible first half season. If Caldwell can manage the team well, with the aid of Jim Bob Cooter as his OC and Teryl Austin as his DC, keep his players motivated as they move on without Calvin Johnson, Quinn can continue to draft and recruit better players for the Lions and work toward making them perennial contenders.
    As for the team’s history, the late William Clay Ford ran the team from November 21, 1963 (yes, he bought the team the day before JFK was assassinated) until his death in 2014. His widow, Martha Firestone-Ford, has been running the team since then. Ownership effectively went from one owner to another in 2014. There’s no indication she had any role with the team between ’63 and ’14. Since taking over, she has hired a new front office and coaching staff. Under Quinn, the Lions have new strength coach, new nutritionist, new weight room, new conditioning coach. In her first season of ownership, the Lions went 11-5; second season 7-9. In her two years, the Lions are 18-14. Give her and Quinn another year or two to build this team.
    If Caldwell proves incompetent as a HC over the next season, Austin is a viable candidate to be the next HC, providing a solid continuity plan for the team. If the Caldwell-Austin-Cooter team can put together consistent 6-2 or 5-3 half seasons back to back to back, Lions are contenders. These aren’t the same old Lions.

  17. The guy has taken over for 2 good teams and flushed them down the crapper within a couple seasons. Some guys are just meant to be coordinators. I call it the “Wade Phillips” effect. Great coordinator, mediocre at best HC.

  18. An injury to any starter in week one will end their season.

    (I put the “injury” scenario in there to be polite.)

  19. Story lead should be “Jim Caldwell doesn’t have to make the playoffs to keep his job” – there is no story that Caldwell’s job is in jeopardy.
    2015’s 7-9 record was made up of a disastrous 1-7 front half and a 6-2 back half, including the last play loss on the “Hail Mary” against the Packers. Stafford’s QB rating was 110 on the back half of the season. The 6-2 finish saved Caldwell’s job for this season. He proved he could keep his team together and motivated though a terrible first half season. If Caldwell can manage the team well, with the aid of Jim Bob Cooter as his OC and Teryl Austin as his DC, keep his players motivated as they move on without Calvin Johnson, Quinn can continue to draft and recruit better players for the Lions and work toward making them perennial contenders.
    As for the team’s history, the late William Clay Ford ran the team from November 21, 1963 (yes, he bought the team the day before JFK was assassinated) until his death in 2014. His widow, Martha Firestone-Ford, has been running the team since then. Ownership effectively went from one owner to another in 2014. There’s no indication she had any role with the team between ’63 and ’14. Since taking over, she has hired a new front office and coaching staff. Under Quinn, the Lions have new strength coach, new nutritionist, new weight room, new conditioning coach. In her first season of ownership, the Lions went 11-5; second season 7-9. In her two years, the Lions are 18-14. Give her and Quinn another year or two to build this team.
    If Caldwell proves incompetent as a HC over the next season, Austin is a viable candidate to be the next HC, providing a solid continuity plan for the team. If the Caldwell-Austin-Cooter team can put together consistent 6-2 or 5-3 half seasons back to back to back, Lions are contenders. These aren’t the same old Lions.
    ——————–

    Way to keep it pithy. Geesh!

  20. Is this no playoff mandate thing in writing?

    Like anything an owner says about a coach’s future before the season starts ever matters once it’s over.

  21. bigotshamer says:
    Aug 4, 2016 11:22 PM
    If you’re complaining about affirmative action, you have some very serious, obvious psychological issues. Seek help.

    ********************************************************************************************************************

    Couldn’t agree with you MORE Sir!!

    It takes a “Special” kind of Racist to be against folks having the Opportunity to Interview for a position.

    Rooney rule does NOT Grant ANY Jobs. Just states the obvious, that a league that is made up of 78% African American players should have MORE A.A. Head Coaches!!!

  22. Let’s say in a competitive conference, the Lions miss the playoffs at 10-6, or even at 9-7. That moves Caldwell’s record with the Lions to 28-20 or 27-21 over 3 seasons. It’s probably been awhile since someone has strung together a winning record over 3 or more seasons in Detroit. All while Jeff Fisher and Mike Mularkey still have jobs. Not really so bad, is it? Caldwell was also a blown 4th quarter lead and bad call away from a playoff win in 2014.

    The last time a Lions coach put together that good of a stretch was Wayne Fontes going 29-19 from 1993-95, when some guy named Barry Sanders was his RB. Fontes had a 66-67 record with the team overall.

  23. You don’t want to fire a coach too early. Belichick was fired in Cleveland. The season went bad after it was announced that they were moving to Baltimore. If they hadn’t moved Cleveland would have the Super Bowls that New England did.

    I think Quinn’s speech is also to motivate the players who might give up if they don’t do well early in the season.

  24. bigotshamer says:
    Aug 4, 2016 11:22 PM
    If you’re complaining about affirmative action, you have some very serious, obvious psychological issues. Seek help.

    ********************************************************************************************************************

    Couldn’t agree with you MORE Sir!!

    It takes a “Special” kind of Racist to be against folks having the Opportunity to Interview for a position.

    Rooney rule does NOT Grant ANY Jobs. Just states the obvious, that a league that is made up of 78% African American players should have MORE A.A. Head Coaches!!!
    *****************************************

    look up the definition of racist. Thinking the Rooney rule is implemented poorly does not make someone a racist.

  25. Caldwell is a great guy… he’s on the losing end of a bad franchise..

    This is the model for most NFL teams now… MONEY… as long as they continue getting it and most fans are lemmings they will continue to do what they do…

    If your team is a loser they have NO incentive to do anything else… why? YOU are giving them your money and that’s exactly what they want… wake up….

    Besides and many don’t realize this but the NFL isn’t listed as a SPORTING venue… it’s listed as an ENTERTAINMENT venue they went to court to change that a few years ago..

    What does that mean? It’s simple the NFL can now legally fix games and/or teams to achieve their desired outcome in order to maximize profit for their product.

    Take your rose colored glasses off and realize one simple fact.. the NFL is there to make money and fans are handing over millions and millions of dollars hoping their team wins…

    The NFL is selling it to you like this… “hope”… and you keep buying into it…

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