Bosa’s mom regrets not “pulling an Eli Manning”

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Twelve years ago, the father of quarterback Eli Manning made known before the draft his son’s lack of interest in playing for the Chargers, who held the first pick in the draft. So the Chargers drafted Eli and then traded him for Philip Rivers and draft picks.

The mother of defensive end Joey Bosa regrets not making the same move.

As noticed by SDBoltReport.com (via Michael Gehlken of the San Diego Union-Tribune), Cheryl Bosa vented her frustrations regarding the franchise on Sunday.

“It bums me out for him so much,” she wrote on Facebook. “Wish we pulled an Eli Manning on draft day.”

The sentiment underscores the animosity that has emerged due to an impasse over offset language and signing-bonus deferral that resulted in the Chargers not responding to the latest proposal from Bosa’s camp for 10 days and counting. It also hints at the possibility of Bosa sitting out the entire year, refusing to sign with the Chargers in the offseason, and then re-entering the draft.

The only problem with that approach is that Bosa likely wouldn’t be picked No. 3 or higher after a year of no football, especially since he’d remain the exclusive property of the Chargers until the draft begins. Thus, the contract he’d get in 2017 would be worth much less than the one he could get right now. If Bosa sits out the full season, his best hope would be to force a trade after the season for a contract similar to the one he currently won’t accept.

Technically, a trade can happen before Tuesday. As one source with knowledge of the situation told PFT on Sunday afternoon, however, it’s highly unlikely that any team retained enough rookie pool space to accommodate Bosa’s contract in 2016.

Ideally, the two sides would find a way to compromise that allows each to believe it emerged with a win. Otherwise, each side will likely emerge in time with a loss.

125 responses to “Bosa’s mom regrets not “pulling an Eli Manning”

  1. and before nobody cared when this guy signs, and now everyone will suddenly hope your kid is a giant bust. thanks mom!

    san diego got the better in season quarterback at least, championships: not so much.

  2. Much like WI, this is a joke. The kid already said he would take either the offset language, or the guaranteed money out of the contract, not both.. Every other 3rd overall pick has not had to deal with this BS. Players should try to get every dime they can, while they can. Teams can cut players or squeeze players basically at will. Why should the players not use any and all leverage they can, to maximise their worth? If only the “state” to the east of the great state of Minnesota would attempt to do the same….

  3. Chargers are going to nickel and dime a rookie when they are trying to sell a new stadium project. Regardless of your thoughts on picking Bosa at #3, they sure aren’t doing themselves any favors.

  4. Yeah as a chargers fan, I too regret this idiotic family not pulling a Manning and preventing us from wasting the rdd pick in the draft on this future bust (and he knows he’s going to be a bust just like his dad and uncle)

  5. Let him sit this year. He can re-enter the draft next year. Then he can get picked at the end of the first round, have all his pay guaranteed upfront, but it still won’t equal what he’d get from the Chargers if he’d sign now.

  6. You want to tick off an entire city? Then, do exactly what Mama Bosa just did.

    Brent Grimes’s girlfriend could not have fanned the flames any more than Mama Bosa just did. Even now, San Deigans resent the hell out of Archie and Eli Manning.

  7. The difference is Eli had the Manning last name and a decent amount of talent. Bosa is a future backup who thinks he’s better than he is. His mom is a no class clown.

  8. Frazier28/7 says:
    Aug 7, 2016 11:42 PM

    and before nobody cared when this guy signs, and now everyone will suddenly hope your kid is a giant bust. thanks mom!

    san diego got the better in season quarterback at least, championships: not so much.

    ——————————————-
    That is like bragging that you have the best offense inside the 20’s but can’t score TD’s.

  9. You don’t get it both way SD. Offsets or deferred signing bonus. You don’t get both. You’re not the Patriots. Heck, you aren’t even the Bengals. They stood toe to toe with the 49ers.

  10. scrimshawturtle says:
    Aug 7, 2016 11:47 PM
    As a Chargers fan I wish you had, too. The team netted some good players after unloading Manning. Now if they’d only won something with them…

    —————–

    You got Shawn Merriman who ended up being a roided bust, shipped off a HOF QB, and fired Marty after 14-2

    They got two Super Bowls… They won dude.

  11. Bosa will be a bust is its not even close. He has minimal pass rush ability and is a below average athlete. E’s a “try-hard” blue collar worker who struggled mightily in OTAs. He even stated to the newspaper that he didn’t “win one 1 on 1 rep”….and they weren’t even in pads. SMH….just remember this statement

  12. ‘If only the “state” to the east of the great state of Minnesota would attempt to do the same….’
    ——————————————————————–

    I swear you could have a discussion on the 15th century Ming dynasty and Minnesota or Packer fans would find a way to be petulant towards each other. Gets old.

  13. Can you believe the huge stones on this guy?! He’s not even that good to begin with. He got tossed around like a ragdoll during Charger OTS’s by the O-Line. He’s got BUST written ALL over him. Thats probably why his camp is holding out to get most of his rookie cash up front. Because his 2nd contract will be for league minimum pay. He knows it..and the Chargers know it too. Thats why they are not willing to bend on their negotiations.

  14. This is a non issue. All this does is delay the inevitable bust he is sure to become. God I wish my chargers traded down for more picks.

  15. Of course San Diegans resent Archie and Eli… Eli has two Super Bowl rings. Add Phillip Rivers to that list as well for making him a Charger instead of a Giant….

  16. Not hating on the guy for trying to get as much as he can upfront in a league that’s cutthroat. Just as long as he knows that when he’s sitting on bench come week#1 or tears his ACL in camp. He looks in the mirror and realizes he only did it to himself.

    Not too many vets let alone rookies ever make the impact they expect to make when they hold-out

  17. Just a quick reminder, the San Diego Chargers have NEVER won a super bowl. Never. Anyway, never means never. Nothing. Oh that’s right, the official language in San Diego is Spanish. So ok then let’s say nada. All this fuss, for what a dude that’s never played in the NFL and the Chargers have NEVER WON a super bowl. Oops, I meant nada. Adios.

  18. Lol @ San Diego fans. I’m sure the Mannings really care that your city resents them. Funny thing is they were right to do what they did. Your organization is a joke and he’s got 2 rings just to prove he was right.

  19. Wow. This lady just burned an entire city in one sentence. Every Charger fan I know hates Archie and Eli to this day for what they pulled. Way to piss off your sons team before he even gets there. Put me in the camp that hopes he sits out the season.

  20. Bosa has no leverage, unlike Manning. There are rules for rookie contracts and if he doesn’t sign at some point he won’t be worth more than a second rounder next year due to not playing this year. Which at this point I hope happens, it would serve him right.

  21. His offer is consistent with the Chargers Op of personnel dealings. He should suck it up, he gets his payday no matter what. BTW, when daddy Archie intervened with baby Eli I lost ALL respect for him just like the Clinton’s expecting that they deserve the crown just because. He should sign and earn a bigger payday down the line.

    (Vikes fan needless to say unless you’re from Wisconsin).

  22. Sorry she may be wrong for saying it publicly, but she’s not wrong for saying it at all when Joey isn’t asking for anything but what’s been promised to him by the CBA and past draft picks.

    It isn’t as if he had the intention to hold out, or is asking for a huge pay increase over what was given to picks years before, this is pretty cut and dry and really should be a non issue.

    So I understand her frustration when the organization is clearly in the wrong here. Just save face, offer what’s owed, and no one will care by week two.

  23. The Chargers are the cheapest team in NFL history. Archie played for a cheap team in NO in the 70’s. The Chargers have been cheap from the beginning.

  24. Bosa is actually in the right. What the Chargers are trying to do is unprecedented and there’s really no reason for it. Give the kid a normal deal, same as any other 3rd overall pick, and call it a day. NFL income is shared, there’s absolutely no good financial reason for their antics. If they’re worried about the kid being a bust, and cutting him before they gotta pay him.. well.. then they shouldn’t have spent the third pick in the draft on him.. and taken Jalen Ramsey instead.

  25. Rookie contracts are fully guaranteed, and offset language simply allows a player to double dip if he’s released. So, this is another case – like with guaranteed money – where a player is more worried about making sure he’s overpaid if he doesn’t pan out than actually focusing on becoming a good player that’s worth his contract.

  26. Teams cant cave on offset language, then a guy could not play worth a damn, force his way out of town and still get paid and double dip. Let the kid sit and let him find out how much the NFL needs him. It is going to be discovered real quick, it is the other way around.

  27. Difference is that Manning was the consensus #1 overall pick and even Bosa himself was surprised to be taken as high as he was. Mom didn’t have the leverage she thinks.

  28. This is so embarrassing for the Chargers front office. “Pull an Eli Manning” wow. Now all these kids in college are going to be weary of San Diego and might “pull an Eli Manning” a team like this will never win a championship.

  29. “Brent Grimes’s girlfriend could not have fanned the flames any more than Mama Bosa just did. Even now, San Deigans resent the hell out of Archie and Eli Manning.”

    Ryan leaf called Archie and Eli and told them that the Chargers were crazy and that they have issues.

  30. Once upon a time, we had Greg Jennings’ sister.

    Now we’ve got Joey Bozo’s mama.

    Whew!

  31. Can a team work the sign-and-trade to avoid the Rookie Team Cap issues?

    If so, SD should consider, especially if the team would throw a 1st at them. There are some teams that are in dire need a pass-rushers.

  32. Both sides look like fools in this by now.

    And parents of NFL players need to stay out their sons’ business. These are grown men who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves in public (or choosing not to), and should reap the benefits (or consequences) of how well (or poorly) they manage their career on their own. Stage-mom’ing at the NFL level is not a good look at all.

  33. And another NFL team is regretting selecting a Luckeyes with such a high draft pick. Seriously Urban Meyer doesn’t cultivate future Pros he is just good at winning CFB games. When will these NFL teams figure this out?

  34. This is all very encouraging in regards to one aspect for Bosa. I think he will take great care of his money and will never go broke. Good for him. Maybe it us because I am a jaded Dolphin fan that saw my team draft both his Dad and uncle but I just think this kids ceiling is to be a mediocre rotational lineman that sticks around for 8 years. He has no burst or anything that jumps out and indicates
    that he is going to be special…..Save that money Joey.

  35. Mannings DO NOT care what people from San Diego thinks. They don’t pay their bills or wash their laundry. Eli made the right decision and history proved him RIGHT! I also like the hypocrites here who claim Bosa is being greedy, etc. Anyone in his position should do what ever they can to maximize their salary given football is a violent sports and careers last for a short time. Why is it that San Diego Charges are the only team with this unique problem signing a high draft pick? That should be the question.

  36. I’m not saying bosa shouldn’t get what he is asking for but his mama did him no favors. The inherent problem with what she said is Joey is not a qb. His last name is not manning. His brother is not Peyton. His father is not Archie. In fact his father is a huge 1st round bust that held out himself. So go ahead and hold out Joey that is your right but your mama just made you and your camp look like a bunch of chumps.

  37. paulieorkid says:
    Aug 7, 2016 11:54 PM
    You want to tick off an entire city? Then, do exactly what Mama Bosa just did.

    Brent Grimes’s girlfriend could not have fanned the flames any more than Mama Bosa just did. Even now, San Deigans resent the hell out of Archie and Eli Manning.
    ————————————————————-
    Sadly for Brent that is his wlife and not a girlfriend. How would you like to wake up each morning knowing you couldn’t just walk away from that situation?
    Psycho

  38. As I understood it, his Major Beef was that the Bonus was going to be paid in two installments, not all at once.

    Is he afraid the Chargers are going to go out of business ??

    Well, maybe he has a point there.

  39. I’ve never been to San Diego but all I hear is how great the place is and everyone wishes they could live there. This organization must really suck bad when there are so many players who don’t want to take their millions of dollars to play and live there. I could put up with 10 years of working for a crappy company if I was going to be setup for life and living in such a great place.

  40. I must say, as a Raiders fan, this situation just keeps getting better and better!

    ONE NATION!

  41. There is one key difference between Eli Manning and Bosa. Manning was a sure fire franchise quarterback prospect that could lead a team or 15 years. Bosa is a very good, but not super great DE prospect. You can’t play cards that you don’t have Mama Bosa.

  42. Bosa will end up being another “Boz”……he better take the $$ now as it might be his last and only chance to cash in before teams realize he’s a bust.

  43. Uhm,seeing as Bossas’ dad and uncle were 1st rnd “busts”,pulling an Eli would’ve hurt his Draft Status more than helped. He’s acting like he’s going to become an HoFer. Yet if not for Chargers needing DL help,he might’ve been a low 1st or high 2nd rnd pick. Crying over his guarantee being paid over 4 yrs instead of all of it NOW is stupid,since this in a way guarantees he has money coming for a longer period and doesn’t go to where parents wsnt it to,which is in their pocket

  44. This is why you keep mommy and daddy off social media, his daddy pulled the same thing on the dolphins in 87, was a major bust and spent most of his whole 25 game career on the injured reserve list.
    Joey will be selling insurance by 2019.

  45. How does “pulling an Eli” (or an Elway) help uphold the integrity of the game? Roger needs to get Ted Wells on the case and do an investigation.

  46. There will likely be a lot of you who say that Bosa should shut up and sign the contract, but a bad deal is a bad deal and he shouldn’t sign it and here is why. While I couldn’t care less about the offset language, which allows the team, if he is cut before the completion of the contract to recoup some of the money, to me that’s not the big issue.

    The greatest issue is the deferment of a large portion of the signing bonus. The team wants to keep a large portion of his signing bonus, around $17M, until next year. For those not schooled in finance, the money the team can make off of investing $8M for 6 months at a 4% rate is at $160,000. Money that HE could invest and make money on himself, but the team wants that money so they can reap the reward.

    Ask yourself if you would be fine with your job making $160K off of money that is supposed to be yours and keeping that money for themselves. Bad move, Chargers. And trying to demonize the player to the fans is even worse.

  47. Now known as an “Eli Manning” for other crybaby entitled athletes and their parents.

    Just further proof of the preferential treatment the Manning’s receive from the NFL which explains why the NFL “investigators” found “nothing” regarding PeyMe’s blatantly obvious use of HGH.
    What a joke

    Broncos* are tainted as the day is long
    Manning*
    Miller*
    Elway*

  48. The Patriots probably didn’t spend all of their rookie pool money you know, after having their first round pick stolen from them and all….

  49. This may prove the Chargers really do want to move. Don’t think for a minute that the majority of San Diego voters side with the Chargers’ cheapness in this, a revised first round “no brainer” situation. Cheap does as cheap is!

  50. Chargers are the old Bengals. LOL! Its a shame. Really wanted to see him play this year.

  51. It has always been fun being lectured about cheating by fans of a team that blew up an entire draft to get their QB, because integrity. See also Suck for Luck.

  52. It’s been 12 years since the Eli shibalkle, and the cheapskate Chargers haven’t changed a bit. San Diego Stupid Chargers. Hey, people of San Diego, can you give us poor Billionaires a couple Billion for a new stadium? We promise to lowball players and continue to have a crappy team! What do you say?

  53. GM Tom Telesco has a 15% success rate in drafting above average players who can have an impact on the game. In addition, he has traded up (and relinquished) a crapload of draft picks for average players (Nanti Te’o and Melvin Gordon ae just a couple of examples of his greatness.),br>
    Hopefully, if Bosa doesn’t sign, and sits out, GM Tom Telesco is fired after the season ends.

  54. Sell the Team!!!! If your #1 goal is not to win a championship then sell the team. no reason to bully this kid with the threat of not playing this yr because he won’t accept a contract with language that no other top 5 pick has accepted before….I agree mom, you should have pulled a Manning and to all future top picks of the chargers need to do the same until they sell the team…..

  55. The thing that’s working for the Bosas is that Chargers fans pretty much universally hate the Chargers ownership. With good reason.

    A young GM who’s one bad season away from the hot seat and is trying to help get a stadium built isn’t going to hardball his 1st round draft pick like this. It’s the Spanoses who set these idiotic standards. Probably the same reason Rivers had to threaten retirement to get paid.

    Bosa’s demands are the league norm. And with the tax rates in CA, he’s actually going to get paid less net income over the life of his contract than the #4 and #5 overall picks. Why shouldn’t he try to maximize his money as much as possible?

    Bosa is right to hold firm. He’s the one who’s been willing to compromise either/or. The Chargers are the ones who won’t budge on anything. They’re at fault, imo. They’re insistent on making this team as unappealing as possible to prospective players.

    That said, Bosa’s mom isn’t helping matters.

  56. I’m sorry, but it is something more than the Charges fault that this guy is the only 1st round pick not to have signed his deal. Basically, he and his agents are trying to do something that teams, players, and other agents see as out of bounds. There is a reason this is the longer such situation since the new CBA in 2011, and most signs point squarely at Momma Bosa’s little boy…

  57. Bosa’s camp is 100 percent correct on this one… The language of the contract offered to Bosa is INFERIOR to players drafted in the SECOND AND THIRD ROUND… Its unheard of to split a bonus between several years when a player can be cut with no guaranteed money… If Bosa’s Agent accepted this deal it would blemish his career…

    And for a number 3 pick to be cut with no offset is laughably biased for the Team… Think about it… The New rookie contracts already guarantee that rookies get paid far less than free agents for the first 5 years of their rookie contract… So unless he is a complete bust… he is already worth every penny of that contract. The Billionaire team is hesitant to give a player chump change if he does not pan out… Its this kind of corporate undercutting that has wiped out Americas middle class. If you had no faith in Bosa… you shouldn’t have drafted him at number 3!

  58. The best thing for both sides if they can’t get a deal done this year is to trade him to the rams or eagles after the season. That way the chargers can recoup a 2nd rounder, bosa can get they money he wants because those 2 teams will have the money because they will be down a first, and either the rams or eagles can get a top 5 talent in a year they weren’t suppose to have a first rounder.

  59. Here are some former Chargers who would likely agree with Cheryl Bosa’s take on the team’s front office: Rodney Harrison. LaDainian Tomlinson. Eric Weddle. And, if he were still with us, Junior Seau.

  60. JaminJake says:
    Aug 8, 2016 12:17 AM
    scrimshawturtle says:
    Aug 7, 2016 11:47 PM
    As a Chargers fan I wish you had, too. The team netted some good players after unloading Manning. Now if they’d only won something with them…

    —————–

    You got Shawn Merriman who ended up being a roided bust, shipped off a HOF QB, and fired Marty after 14-2

    They got two Super Bowls… They won dude.

    ___________________________________

    Eli has to be the crappiest QB to ever get in the HoF then. Those superbowls were mostly his team. Nearly every other season Eli has played was total junk. LOL.

  61. How stubbornly stupid both sides are being. I hope this goes on for the next almost 8 months. They deserve each other.

  62. Maybe the media should stay off of mom’s Facebook page. It’s not like she went looking for an interview, and I doubt she’s gotten media trying from San Diego given the games SD is playing with the contract. SD is getting what it deserves. Other teams avoid this by inviting the parents out, showing them what their kid is in for and heading off these sorts of posts.

  63. patswhatsup says:
    Aug 8, 2016 11:57 AM
    JaminJake says:
    Aug 8, 2016 12:17 AM
    scrimshawturtle says:
    Aug 7, 2016 11:47 PM
    As a Chargers fan I wish you had, too. The team netted some good players after unloading Manning. Now if they’d only won something with them…

    —————–

    You got Shawn Merriman who ended up being a roided bust, shipped off a HOF QB, and fired Marty after 14-2

    They got two Super Bowls… They won dude.

    ___________________________________

    Eli has to be the crappiest QB to ever get in the HoF then. Those superbowls were mostly his team. Nearly every other season Eli has played was total junk. LOL.

    1. The QB he was referring to is a little known guy named Drew Brees. He was shipped off by SD.

    2. Joe Namath is in the HoF. So when Eli gets in he still could not be the worst QB there.

    3. Try looking at his stats the last 2 years and then tell me again they were junk. He’s like top 6 in most categories.

  64. Incredible that a team is going to nickel and dime a top 3 pick and cause a holdout at the exact same time they’re trying to get hundred of millions out of the taxpaying fans. The fight is over two minor points and Bosa is asking for what is standard policy for every other team in the league when dealing with top picks.

  65. paulieorkid says:
    Aug 7, 2016 11:54 PM

    You want to tick off an entire city? Then, do exactly what Mama Bosa just did.

    Brent Grimes’s girlfriend could not have fanned the flames any more than Mama Bosa just did. Even now, San Deigans resent the hell out of Archie and Eli Manning.
    *********************

    I’m sure they’re losing a lot of sleep over what San DIEGans think.

  66. nygnjd says:
    Aug 8, 2016 6:41 PM

    1. The QB he was referring to is a little known guy named Drew Brees. He was shipped off by SD.

    2. Joe Namath is in the HoF. So when Eli gets in he still could not be the worst QB there.

    3. Try looking at his stats the last 2 years and then tell me again they were junk. He’s like top 6 in most categories.
    ————–
    1. Brees is a great QB – Rivers is better. so whats your point?
    2. Namath played in a time when QB’s actually took hits. i doubt little sheli could take a hard look, let alone a hard hit.
    3. so your saying the past two years we have had 5 other qb’s that are automatically HOF material since they were top 5? sheli has terrible stats and two rings, thanks to the team around her. if that HOF material then i guess we are lowering the bar because her name is manning. but that wouldnt surprise me considering we let the other one use hgh and the team he was on go roid rage his last year with no investigation.
    what a joke the league has become
    nothing but lies, drama and soap operas. gotta keep the masses entertained since they wont let them play legitimate football anymore.
    WWNFL.

  67. followme2boston says:
    Aug 8, 2016 5:09 AM
    Teams cant cave on offset language, then a guy could not play worth a damn, force his way out of town and still get paid and double dip. Let the kid sit and let him find out how much the NFL needs him. It is going to be discovered real quick, it is the other way around.
    ______________________

    Yes, because we all know the best way for a young player to get paid is to tank for the much of their rookie contract, get cut in the final year, then strike a huge payday on the open market based on skills they flashed 4 years ago.

    I’ll have what you’re smoking

  68. The Bosa family needs to be barred from the NFL. Father John was a bust on the field and now his loser son Joey won’t even make it to the field.

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