Hall of Fame Non-Game lawsuit appears to be looming

AP

The NFL’s definition of “making it right” may not mesh with Ohio’s definition of the term.

The lawyer who sued on behalf of fans who showed up for Super Bowl XLV with tickets that didn’t correspond to actual seats plans to sue the NFL for fans who showed up in Canton on Sunday night with tickets for a game that wasn’t played.

“We plan on filing a class [action] within days,” Michael Avenatti said on Twitter. “$0 for fan expenses is a disgrace.” (Avenatti has confirmed via email that the unverified account belongs to him.)

Whether it’s a disgrace and whether it’s a violation of Ohio law are two different questions. Whether the lawsuit can be maintained as a class action is another question as well.

After Super Bowl XLV, Avenatti pursued a class action, but the courts in Texas declined to certify the class, forcing the claims for reimbursement to be pursued in small chunks. One group of seven plaintiffs received $76,000 in litigation that also included allegations of witness tampering by the league.

That case also included deposition testimony from a Commissioner who fought not to testify, along with a debate over the meaning of the term “accountable.”

In this case, “accountable” for the NFL currently means refunding ticket prices only. Eventually, it could mean a lot more than that.

59 responses to “Hall of Fame Non-Game lawsuit appears to be looming

  1. The league proves over and over that it does not give a damn about the true fans. Yet the fools continue to give their hard earned money over to billionaires for overpriced food/drink, absurd parking fees, ridiculous team merchandise costs and ever increasing ticket prices(not even mentioning PSL fees).

    I have not bought a ticket, or team merchandise in 5 years. Sit and watch the games on TV and laugh at all those fools throwing their money away in the stadiums

  2. Michael Avenatti – will generously only take a third of the settlement. Of course, it might be just for the tickets, but a third of the price of all clients tickets is a good days pay.

    I want to start a class action suit for all who changed their evening to watch this game (or at least will pretend to). I bought pizza, wings, and beer for 10 potential business clients. My anticipated lost income is $1 million. Pay up, Rog!

  3. If there are two things America is #1 at, it is producing lawyers and lawsuits.

    If you came for the football game alone you were an idiot. You came for the Hall of Fame induction, which did happen.
    Also, due to the cancellation countless fans got autographs and pictures taken with hall of famers and stars of the teams that otherwise would not have happened. Those pictures and autographs are more meaningful for the fans than a meaningless preseason game.

    You want to be reimbursed beyond the ticket price for watching scrubs who won’t even be on an NFL roster in 3 weeks? Good luck.

  4. Hope this doesn’t cut into Rog’s 30 mil a year salary .
    He does have a family and his kids need eat and have a place
    to call home.

  5. Still, there’s a group out there that buy this clown Goodell’s baloney sauce about PSI.

    apparently failure to cooperate is a one way street at Integrity on Park Ave.

    As Robert Shaw to Paul Newman in The Sting, “you’re not only a cheat, you’re a gutless cheat”

  6. The NFL should offer some type of compensation since the game was cancelled, which essentially never happens. Without the fans, the NFL would not exist, period. If they offered, for example, an extra $500 per ticket sold, or maybe the same number of free tix to a regular season game of their choice, they would look much better in this case and I am sure the league could afford it.

    I used to think the NFL was one of the best run organizations on the planet only a few years ago. Now it seems like they botch almost everything they do!

  7. They are refunding the price of the tickets,they should be refunding the hotel stay also.it will be hard to pay for the food the fans purchased unless it was on a credit card. fan satisfaction is the name of the game along with a hefty legal fee for this lawyer.

  8. “In this case, “accountable” for the NFL currently means refunding ticket prices only. Eventually, it could mean a lot more than that.”

    Offer the Packer fans a 6 pack of Old Milwaukee beer and they will be happy. Scratch that, make it a case. It’s really cheap beer.

  9. Remember how Goodell wasted public resources to ask the local PD to make sure Pats fans didn’t mess up his vacation home in Maine? He may want to add Packers and Colts fans to the list. And Saints, Chiefs, Dolphins, Cowboys, Redskins, Browns, Falcons, Ravens, Panthers, Vikings, and Rams. Heck, everybody. For integrity.

  10. If one buys tickets to a concert and it is, for whatever reason, cancelled, you will likely get your ticket refunded. There is NEVER any consideration for “fan expenses”. Stupid.

    The lawyer want his third of the settlement and will likely get it.

  11. I understand that a lot of people lost a lot of money and some kind of compensation needs to be handed out, BUT, this is why everything in America is so expensive!! Lawyers are a part of the problem!!! Dang ambulance chasers!!!

  12. Disgrace? Lawyers are a disgrace. This guy doesn’t care about the fans. He just sees the deep pockets of the NFL and wants a cut.

  13. People made a trip, the game didn’t happen , it’s a good thing for player safety. Yes,it stinks if you went and spent money on hotels, gas, etc, but you had an experience ,it’s over,everybody lived.. The NFL could get a little good will if they decided to go ahead and reimburse ticket holders for any monies spent at the stadium above the cost of the ticket. That’s all that really needs to be done and if they wanted to show a bit more about caring for the fans who bought tickets to the Hall of Fame game, offer complimentary tickets equal to the amount they purchased to 1 regular season game this season or next( and of course they will be uppers but they are free or be really smart and break it up and invite groups each game to team game day hospitality suites over the next few seasons).

    In any business you want to make your customers happy, things happened because of mistakes, you just do your best to make it right and if you go above and beyond to reconcile…well, you Will have customers for life and they will then always speak positive about you.

  14. That case also included deposition testimony from a Commissioner who fought not to testify, along with a debate over the meaning of the term “accountable.”
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    That whole exchange was great, would love to hear him define ‘integrity’ as well. He could easily be impeached as a witness just for uttering it

  15. Indybear says:
    Aug 9, 2016 8:50 AM
    If one buys tickets to a concert and it is, for whatever reason, cancelled, you will likely get your ticket refunded. There is NEVER any consideration for “fan expenses”. Stupid.
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    Apples and oranges. If they decided to cancel a concert because the stage was unsafe they wouldn’t let the crowd in and then wait an hour and a half after the decision was made to tell them

  16. Accountable to the nfl means engaging in any lie, fraud, deceit, denial, lies, lies, lies or anything else to justify their goal of kerping the money machine rolling at the expense of anyone and everything else in the world.

    Disgusting and corrupt

  17. Full ticket refunds, plus a free official NFL Stadium Seat Cushion with Roger Goodell’s face on it.

  18. gtodriver says:
    Aug 9, 2016 8:37 AM
    “In this case, “accountable” for the NFL currently means refunding ticket prices only. Eventually, it could mean a lot more than that.”

    Offer the Packer fans a 6 pack of Old Milwaukee beer and they will be happy. Scratch that, make it a case. It’s really cheap beer.
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    Legions of Viking fans want to hang on Favre’s shirt tails as though he meant something to that franchise. You can reimburse any Viking fans that showed up to the ceremonies for all their incurred expenses; air fare, dog sitting, hotel, rental car, food, drink, souvenirs, tickets, etc.

    It would probably cost less than you think to reimburse both of those guys.

  19. Anyone who thinks Goodell had anything to do with the paint applied to the field is either totally delusional or a Patriots fan; one and the same.

  20. waaa waaaa ….jezz, take your ticket refund and move on…you were gonna eat there or somewhere, and think of the hotel as a mini vacation in downtown Canton, which had to be 2,350 times better than downtown Green Bay Wisconsin…..this is so petty.

  21. Apples and oranges. If they decided to cancel a concert because the stage was unsafe they wouldn’t let the crowd in and then wait an hour and a half after the decision was made to tell them

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    Incorrect. This has happened in concert venues

  22. Look, one more thing for Patriots fans to cry about.
    Science, lmao.
    I wonder if there are any utube videos on field painting in sub-50° weather, lol.

  23. TMZ is reporting that the League Elders have decreed that not only do you get a refund of the ticket prices, but for every ticket refunded, you will also get a voucher for a ticket to the Jets vs Browns game on October 30th, along with a coupon for a free Frosty Malt. The flat wooden spoon will cost extra, however.

  24. This is why I would never go to another NFL game in my life or buy apparel. The NFL is a multi-billion $ corporation that can make this right yet refuses to.

  25. Refund only the ticket price. To sue because they spent more to come see a meaningless game is a ruse and unfortunately it might just work in court. None of them (out of towners) went to Ohio to see that game. On the other hand, the NFL should have made sure the field / stadium was ready. If they win, I hope they don’t get more than $500 each.

  26. willycents says:
    Aug 9, 2016 9:29 AM

    Anyone who thinks Goodell had anything to do with the paint applied to the field is either totally delusional or a Patriots fan; one and the same.
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    Doesn’t matter if he had anything to do with it or not. It is just another in a long string of fiascos, due to incompetence, that have occurred since Goodell became the Commissioner.

    Either the guy gets paid to take bullets, or he doesn’t. Make up your mind.

  27. No problem, Roger has just counted the gate-receipts and it turns out that officially only 12 people attended!

  28. I am far from one of those “wah, wah, wah… I hate Goodell… wah, wah, wah” people, but wow, NFL.

    You had a great opportunity to do some serious public relations. You could have simply said “we will refund the costs of tickets, plus $300 (or whatever they choose) towards travel and lodging.” I am certain that somewhere deep in the tax books, this would be a tax write off.

    But of course, my guess is they figured there is no solution that would make everyone happy so they figured they would make no one happy.

  29. Anybody who traveled from out of town just for a meaningless game between 3rd and 4th stringers is an idiot. The main event was the Hall of Fame induction.

    Also, if you bought other expenses such as gas, airfare, food, hotels, etc. you still got those things. Why get a refund for getting the product.

    They should be reimbursed for tickets only.

  30. If it was me, I wouldn’t expect more than just the game ticket refunded.
    Baseball has rain outs! They don’t refund fans that came from out of town their airfare and hotel expenses.
    when you travel to certain events, you have to expect things always not going the way there planned.
    It’s life! I’m sure the HOF DID NOT want this to happen.

    I’m a GB fan, and I was upset they didn’t get to play the game, but it’s a preseason game!! I’m over it.
    Next months everyone will be over it…… Except the Viking fans. They’ll make up some ridiculous comment about it, and the packer fans. That’s what they do. Their football punks!

  31. How long before that dude from The Man From UNCLE shows up on late night television pitching ‘Were you wronged by the NFL at the HOF game?’

  32. I flipped on the tv (by some miracle I remembered the game was on), but it wasn’t.

    Can you imagine my pain, suffering and mental duress?!?!?!?!?

    The NFL owes me big time!!!!!!!

    P.S. remind me real quick, who was playing again?

  33. xpensivewinos says:
    Aug 9, 2016 11:00 AM

    P.S. remind me real quick, who was playing again?
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    Colts and the Packers.

  34. If NFL has to pay a large sum of money (beyond ticket prices) to these ticketholders, believe that somehow the buck will be passed along to ALL fans of the NFL.

    These fans are being greedy; none of them flew out there just for the game. This is simply a cash grab that will cost all of us in the long run.

  35. So where was this attorney when the Metrodome collapsed from snow and the Vikings/Giants game was moved to Detroit a few years ago? No one who had a ticket for the game was able to go. I don’t recall one word about a lawsuit or claims for expenses beyond the game ticket.

  36. I haven’t seen or heard anything about any “In the event of ” legalese on these tickets. Kind of surprising their isn’t something on them like other events.

  37. RG1 and his goons have to know the league has a major image problem. It’s possible they aren’t aware, because like most major corporations, they no longer view their customers as human beings. They view them as revenue streams only. By holding that view, you can refund the tickets only and convince yourself you did all that you had to do.

    However, if you want to go a few steps beyond and try to convince the customers that you do know they are human beings, you have the opportunity.

    My wife & I recently traveled to South Florida. On the first leg of the return flight from FLL to ATL, the airline managed to do major damage to my wife’s wheelchair. Some of the damage was repairable on the spot, some was not. The airline gave us 4 drink vouchers for the connecting flight (couldn’t use them because the flight was too short, but they have no expiration date so they will be used in the future), a free ride from the next airport to our home, made arrangements to get a temporary chair for her while the original one was being repaired at their expense, and a $100 voucher for a future flight. My wife also got a letter of apology from the airline. They could have just agreed to pay to fix the chair and nothing more, but they chose to go the extra mile.

    (BTW, the airline was Delta. They have been great to work with in this situation. Give them your business if you can.)

    The NFL should do something extra for the fans that came to the HOF game. It would go a long way to changing the minds of people like me that think the NFL has completely de-humanized those that attend their games.

  38. The problem is not just that the cancelled. Its that they cancelled extremely late, people were already at the stadium. There were reports that the league knew the game was cancelled and the people at the stadium did not know, so they continued to buy expensive concessions for a game that never started.

    IMO, we need cell phones of league officials to find out exactly when the league knew of the cancellation, and if they made an effort to delay telling the fans.

  39. The No Fun League ran by a buffoon with the title of Commissioner and the joke is on the fans who continue to support a league ran by a buffoon.

  40. lgw91s says:
    Aug 9, 2016 7:07 AM

    I want to start a class action suit for all who changed their evening to watch this game (or at least will pretend to). I bought pizza, wings, and beer for 10 potential business clients…
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    Love it! Now there will be an ambulance-chasing attorney around everything associated with the NFL!

  41. Fans attacking fans cause they wanted to see a game…nice.

    Then there is the “fan” who won’t bow down to the evil powers that be…”I haven’t bought merchandise…blah blah blah.”

    You still put money into the league’s piggy bank even when you sit on your fat bitchin’ ass when you turn on the TV to see a game.

  42. liquidalfa says:
    Aug 9, 2016 11:46 AM

    I haven’t seen or heard anything about any “In the event of ” legalese on these tickets. Kind of surprising their isn’t something on them like other events.
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    Yeah, but who could anticipate that a game would be cancelled due to the incompetence of the league?

  43. TheBrownswillstinkagain says:
    Aug 9, 2016 1:00 PM

    Im still waiting for the FBI raid on 345 Park Ave
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    Looking at the FBI’s recent track record, you might be waiting a while.

  44. stellarperformance says:

    Legions of Viking fans want to hang on Favre’s shirt tails as though he meant something to that franchise. You can reimburse any Viking fans that showed up to the ceremonies for all their incurred expenses; air fare, dog sitting, hotel, rental car, food, drink, souvenirs, tickets, etc.

    It would probably cost less than you think to reimburse both of those guys.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I seriously doubt that there were two Viking fans that bought to tickets to watch the Packer/Colt exhibition game starring 3rd and 4th stringers.

    Viking fans are smart enough to know that refunds for more than the price of the tickets themselves should not be expected – nor demanded.

    Packer fans – as usual – feel they are entitled to special treatment.

    Just for you, I’ll spring for a second case of Old Milwaukee.

    With the rampant alcohol abuse in Wisconsin, you probably need the 2nd case just to get a buzz on.

    Did you know that Wisconsin has 12 of the 20 “drunkest cities in the United States”? Packer land has the top 4 – Appleton, Oshkosh/Neenah, Green Bay and Madison.

    That’s really the top 5 – but for some reason they grouped Neenah and Oshkosh together – even though they are over 13 miles apart.

    If you do separate Neenah and Oshkosh, that would give Wisconsin 8 of the top 10 and 13 of the top 20 drunkest cities in the country…

    You should be really proud of that accomplishment.

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