Whatever happened to the Al Jazeera PED investigation?

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The NFL supposedly planned to show up on the first day of training camp in Green Bay and Pittsburgh to interview Packers linebacker Clay Matthews, Packers linebacker Julius Peppers, and Steelers linebacker James Harrison in response to allegations from an Al Jazeera documentary that they used PEDs. Training camp started for both teams more than two weeks ago, and no interviews have occurred.

The delay isn’t a surprise. The NFL Players Association has repeatedly insisted on “credible evidence” before it will allow the players to be interviewed. (The labor deal and the PED policy suggest that there’s no obligation to speak at all until after discipline is imposed and appeal rights are invoked.) The NFL hasn’t produced any evidence for inspection by the union, possibly because the NFL has no evidence beyond the recanted claims of Charles Sly, a former employee/intern/whatever at the Guyer Institute who pointed a finger at the players at a time when he didn’t realize he was being recorded.

If Sly’s contentions were deemed to be not credible regarding retired quarterback Peyton Manning, how can they be credible for anyone else? Credibility isn’t partial. Maybe the NFL has realized that, and maybe the NFL has decided to just do nothing and hope that no one notices.

40 responses to “Whatever happened to the Al Jazeera PED investigation?

  1. “Maybe the NFL has realized that, and maybe the NFL has decided to just do nothing and hope that no one notices.”

    Nailed it.

  2. the credible evidence is to look at Clay’s cro-magnon head. Even with PED’s he only had 49 tackles at LB and Larry “4.42 -40” Fitzgerald blew him out of the water on that OT TD. He is so overrated!

  3. “The NFL hasn’t produced any evidence for inspection by the union, possibly because the NFL has no evidence…” or, possibly b/c the NFL is doing an MLB style investigation would rather sweep this under the shield.

    And the credibility of Sly’s comments were irrelevant when it was discovered PEDs were being shipped directly to Manning’s wife in her name. We really supposed to be dumb enough to believe they were for her? Ok.

  4. If there is no evidence of rules being broken, why do these players need to defend themselves? The NFL needs to pick their battles carefully, and this is not a good one for them.

  5. Why does “no” evidence matter in this but not in Brady’s case. Just imagine if HGH was delivered to Giselle. Brady would have a lifetime suspension and the Patriots would never have another draft pick. The “No evidence” in the Al Jezeera is much stronger than “more probably than not”. Hate on but show a little INTEGRITY.

  6. 250dollarnflowner says:
    Aug 14, 2016 1:59 PM

    the credible evidence is to look at Clay’s cro-magnon head. Even with PED’s he only had 49 tackles at LB and Larry “4.42 -40” Fitzgerald blew him out of the water on that OT TD. He is so overrated!

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    So what you are saying is a WR smoked a olb? Hmmmmmm shocking?

  7. The NFL is presently dealing with one major lawsuit (Canton).

    They might be getting some advice from their counsel along the lines of, ‘We’re about to stroke one major check for the Canton debacle. Let’s think long and hard about pursuing some unproven allegations or we could be writing more sizable checks to the NFLPA and these players for defamation.’

  8. James Harrison told Goodell he’d have to meet James in person, Goodell pizzed his pants, the whole thing went away.

  9. “And the credibility of Sly’s comments were irrelevant when it was discovered PEDs were being shipped directly to Manning’s wife in her name.”

    The only problem with your comment is that it has not been established that “PEDs” were being shipped directly to Mannings wife in her name. That is strictly conjecture.

  10. Al Jazeera reported that HGH was shipped to Manning’s house. Manning confirmed that was true. By inference that would mean that it was more probable then not that the rest of the Al Jazeera report was also true. Using the Brady precedent, that would mean Matthews, Peppers and Harrison were guilty using the more probable then not burden of proof.

    It looks like the NFL applied a greater burden of proof to the Manning case. There was no hard evidence that Manning took the HGH so he was found innocent. Even though there was plenty of circumstantial evidence that Manning may have used the HGH shipped to his home, the NFL decided to not use the more probable then not buden of proof that they used with Brady.

    It would be very hard for the NFL to declare Manning innocent then find Matthews, Peppers or Harrison guilty using a lesser burden of proof.

  11. Gee, how did I know a bunch of crybaby Patriots fans would find a way to complain about this? Maybe you guys don’t know science as well as you think you do. Were you aware of the Ideal Cheating Law?

    Cheat + Lie + Obfuscate/ Cell Phone Destruction x Past Offenses = 4 game suspension

    This is a highly alkaline formula which can be neutralized using the Ideal QB Law: Integrity + Honor + Hard Work + Manning = GOAT

  12. ranlgon says:
    Aug 14, 2016 2:44 PM
    Al Jazeera reported that HGH was shipped to Manning’s house. Manning confirmed that was true. By inference that would mean that it was more probable then not that the rest of the Al Jazeera report was also true. Using the Brady precedent, that would mean Matthews, Peppers and Harrison were guilty using the more probable then not burden of proof.

    It looks like the NFL applied a greater burden of proof to the Manning case. There was no hard evidence that Manning took the HGH so he was found innocent. Even though there was plenty of circumstantial evidence that Manning may have used the HGH shipped to his home, the NFL decided to not use the more probable then not buden of proof that they used with Brady.

    It would be very hard for the NFL to declare Manning innocent then find Matthews, Peppers or Harrison guilty using a lesser burden of proof.
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    Manning admitted that his wife was treated by Guyer not that they sent HGH to his home.

    Thus your entire supposition is miscast.

  13. The fact is that those wearing the orange and blue are experts on PED’S, HGH and salary cap cheating. and know very little of elementary science.

  14. Manning admitted that his wife was treated by Guyer not that they sent HGH to his home.

    Thus your entire supposition is miscast.
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    Manning never denied that HGH was not shipped to his house.

  15. ranlgon says:
    Aug 14, 2016 3:11 PM
    Manning admitted that his wife was treated by Guyer not that they sent HGH to his home.

    Thus your entire supposition is miscast.
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    Manning never denied that HGH was not shipped to his house.

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    Well Brady never denied that he took Brazilian HGH.

  16. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Aug 14, 2016 3:22 PM

    Well Brady never denied that he took Brazilian HGH.

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    Maybe that’s why he had to destroy his phone with all that incriminating evidence on it.

  17. The Ideal QB Law: 2-2 75.1 Rating < 4-2 95 Rating. 43-8 humiliation vs. 28-24 greatest comeback in SB history. Mediocrity vs. Supremacy. Balls in face vs. deflated balls. Having everything handed to you vs. the hardest working man in the game. No contest.

  18. The league had to bury Manning’s blatant HGH use so they have to ignore it in the other 3. If they’re guilty it sure makes it clear Manning is too.

    Whenever I see that Peyton Sunday morning commercial and he says, “18, my old number” I automatically think 18 is the number of pounds of HGH he had to consume to get back into football shape.

  19. Hate the Broncos. Hate the Patriots. This article has nothing to do with one of those teams – which one is it?

    Hint: they’re in here crying louder and anyone.

  20. mnvikes1961 says:
    Aug 14, 2016 4:27 PM
    Look at Matthews’ frickin’ forehead for god’s sake.n“Me not Clay. Me FRANKENSTEIN.”
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    He looks just like his father and uncle and brother. He looks normal. You know what’s not normal? The obsession Viking trolls have with the Packers and their propensity to exaggerate everything.

  21. I’m longing for the day when Patriot fans don’t come in droves to whine incessantly on every single post that involves league discipline.
    They are becoming almost as insufferable as Viking fans.

  22. They stalled the investigation. In Milwaukee. It got burned up. Very convenient. We need federal judges to get any justice around here. Can’t be left to our local folks. Right, Kenny?

  23. ariani1985 says:
    Aug 14, 2016 2:37 PM
    the packers are constantly in trouble! you would like to think being a perennial loser would be enough stress!

    And how many Superbowls have the Vikings won? The Packers have 4. And which team has the worse record in Superbowls? If you are going to mention losers, it seems the Vikings lead the list

  24. I’ll take “OBSESSIONS” for $2000 Alex …….

    This NFL teams fans are obsessed by it’s rival to the east with a population of only 100,000, who owns 13 World Championships. 13 more than their team.

  25. If Sly’s contentions were deemed to be not credible regarding retired quarterback Peyton Manning, how can they be credible for anyone else? Credibility isn’t partial. Maybe the NFL has realized that, and maybe the NFL has decided to just do nothing and hope that no one notices.
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    um, that’s a significant leap in logic there. Turns out Sly’s contention WAS credible, it’s just that allegedly the HGH wasn’t for Peyton it was for his wife.

    Do all the other players also have pregnant wives in desperate need of PEDs?

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