NFL will suspend Al Jazeera 4 if they don’t give interviews

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Although the NFL’s investigation into allegations that four players used performance-enhancing drugs has cooled down, it may soon heat up again.

The four players — Packers linebackers Clay Matthews and Julius Peppers, Steelers linebacker James Harrison and free agent defensive end Mike Neal — will be suspended if they don’t give interviews to league investigators by August 25, the NFL informed the NFL Players Association. The league told the union of its stance in a letter that was obtained by PFT and multiple other media outlets.

The letter indicates that the players would be suspended indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the league, rather than simply suspended four games for a first violation of the league’s PED policy.

“The suspension for each such player will begin on Friday, August 26 and will continue until he has fully participated in an interview with league investigators, after which the Commissioner will determine whether and when the suspension should be lifted,” the letter states.

An Al Jazeera documentary named the four players as having received performance-enhancing drugs. That documentary also named Peyton Manning, but the NFL has already announced that Manning cooperated with the league’s investigation and that there was no credible evidence that he used or possessed PEDs.

The other four players and the NFLPA insist that they are not required to participate in any NFL investigation unless the league has “credible evidence” that they used PEDs. The league says that the purpose of the investigation is to determine whether there’s “credible evidence,” and that the players should participate. Unless the four players have a change of heart and agree to give interviews to NFL investigators, this appears to be shaping up as another battle between the league and the union.

139 responses to “NFL will suspend Al Jazeera 4 if they don’t give interviews

  1. It begins.

    The league with unchecked power can do as it pleases and as such with no credible evidence is looking to suspend more players.

    I’m looking forward to complaints from the various fan bases about how unfair it is and wonder how many of those celebrated Brady getting railroaded.

  2. I dont see the big problem

    if you didnt do it then go do some stupid interview and be done with it. dont drag it out and go break your phone or something and act like a little kid about it.

  3. someone got caught with their hands in the steroid jar!!!
    lol, al Jazeera 4.

    That’s right Pack Fans, your boys are part of the Al Jazeera 4.

  4. Well at least we know Harrison will give Goodell a run for his money.

    How terrible are you when you somehow manage to unite NFL fans behind Tom Brady and James Harrison? That’s an accomplishment.

  5. Peyton Manning agrees to the interview with the league and provides all of his medical records. The NFL says emphatically that they have proven he did not take steroids or HGH. (his perfectly healthy 35 year old wife just likes to have them sent to her, from his treatment clinic, at their various residences) Nothing to see here.

  6. Complete. Garbage. So now everyone who makes an allegation requires the player to come up with ways to show his innocence? It should be the league that has to come up with something to PROVE guilt after an allegation is made.

  7. Now the league is going to say that Manning cooperated with this investigation. But, he’s not an employee of any franchise or the league. So, it’s not fair to use Manning as the bait to get these guys to cooperate.

  8. I got hooted down here when I posted that Goodell’s victories in the Brady and Peterson cases guaranteed this would happen. Anybody laughing now? Conduct detrimental is now whatever the gang that can’t shoot straight decides it is, the federal courts have made it so.

  9. So the Manning investigation is begun, done, signed off and tied off in a nice red ribbon and none of the other players have had interview #1 yet?

    And now Matthews, Peppers, Harrison, and Neal have 10 days to comply before suspension starts. Better bring your personal cell phones, diaries, first born male child and proof of citizenship cuz Roger is rattling his integrity saber again. There is no privacy – you have no rights – you are a member of the NFL.

  10. At some point, the NFL will pick a fight that it can win, both legitimately and in the public eye. At least I think they will… the odds suggest they have to at some point, don’t they? But in the meantime, this “I’m the bully” attitude just isn’t going to work.

  11. People will complain no matter what the league does here. The NFLPA should try to find some compromise, maybe allow the interviews but have NFLPA lawyers present to monitor it.

  12. For those of you who cheered during delategate, this is the power you entrusted to Goodell. No evidence, doesn’t matter. Good luck if you decide to fight those suspensions.

  13. If I own a hardware store, and there is an article in the newspaper that four of my employees are using, it doesn’t mean they are. But I certainly have the right to ask them about it.

    I don’t have to have “credible evidence” they are guilty to be able to talk to them and find out what’s going on.

  14. Super fast! Only 9 months after the allegations first broke, only 8 months after Peyton’s heavies silenced the witness by threatening their elderly parents, and only 7 months after Al Jazeera reinforced their allegations with further claims of recordings that the NFL declined to look into, and only 7 months after Peyton sent his private team to clean up any records at Guyer (and the other players had just as much time to do the same IF there ever was anything), the league is gunning hard down that by now long-cold path by insisting the players talk to them.

    What a farce. Any potential evidence would be long gone, but thanks to the players’ reticence, Peyton’s actions, and the league’s lethargic non-investigation, innocent or guilty the suspicions will now always be there.

  15. Anyone believe for an instant this would be the case if Manning hadn’t retired? Yeah, didn’t think so. Where’s the droolin’ fool and the rest of the haters to tell us how righteous Roger is? The courts have given Goodell carte blanche to decide conduct detrimental folks, this is just the tip of the iceberg and that is what framegeate was really all about.

  16. It’s a good thing those two bozo judges ruled that Roger can do whatever the hell he wants, CBA be damned.

  17. Listen, these guys are paid millions. If they have nothing to hide, open up like manning rather than cheat like brady. Its a privledge to play in the nfl, if u dont believe that, ask the 99% of good players that tow the line.

  18. The NFLPA advised their players to refuse interviews. Their advice is going to cost these players game checks. The NFLPA had to challenge the NFL publicly and look what happened….
    If I’m a union member I’m filing a grievance against the NFLPA because they are charging players for terrible advice and ultimately costing players money. Why pay dues for this low quality of protection?

  19. This is the same league and commissioner 90% of NFL fans bent over backwards to support when it fabricated a controversy against a team everyone dislikes.

    You reap what you sow.

  20. If the CBA mandates cooperation, then they have to do the interviews and then complain to the union that they did a lousy job protecting their rights in the last round of negotiations. If the CBA doesn’t mandate cooperation, then the NFL’s suspension threat isn’t enforceable anyhow.

    And if they have nothing to fear, just do the interview and deny everything — what’s the big deal?

  21. So the league investigates a retired player for an alleged HGH use but fails to lift a finger when it comes to Brady’s Brazilian HGH allegations? That’s crazy.

  22. Can we all once again remember the only NFL team to vote no on the last CBA, precisely because it gives greedy Goodell too much power? The Steelers, lead by the guy who declared he wouldn’t pee to put out a fire on Goodell.

    Anyone who’s ever seen Harrison’s numerous workout videos knows how hard he works out, and these claims literally have nothing behind them. He hates Goodell and just might stand his ground. It’s an honor to have James Harrison on my team.

    Go Steelers!

  23. They’re going to be suspended either way, the NFL already decided what’s going to happen. Demand the entire interview be filmed and put out for all to view.

  24. This is crazy, unless I am getting something wrong they guy Charlie Shy who was the source recanted his whole story. They also credited him as being an pharmacists when he was an intern.

    NFL can do witch-hunts when it pleases I guess.

  25. Not to worry fans. This threat is all for show. NFL HQ has already won their war. As with Peyton, there will be no real investigation and all these guys will walk if they just show up. Now, the NFL just wants the illusion of heavyhandedness, But wiith Peyton already “freed”, the rest will soon be too.

  26. Why can’t my Packers be left alone to cheat how they want? That’s what normally happens.

  27. But they didn’t suspend Peyton Manning when he CHEATED his way to a Super Bowl victory, did they? Of course the NFL would look the other way the whole season and wait until he’s retired to start investigating this.

  28. The Supreme Court ruled that Tom Brady cheated why can’t the pats fans just live with the truth?
    If you do the crime you got to do the time
    Take a seat Mr. Brady !!!

  29. The way the NFL is going true football fans will probably start watching more college football. The pro game is going pansy on the field and league management is not about the game but only Power and Money. The only element missing is sex…..but Goodell is probably handling that himself. (No pun intended)

  30. These 4 players should just do the interview, and say that all the HGH was supposed to be sent to Manning’s wife and the 5 of them were to dive it up. But they never got their share.

    That would be the end of the investigation.

  31. 2 “ageless” defensive ends that are athletic freaks and an OLB who has had PED rumors around him since college… here’s my shocked face.

    The bigger surprise would be if these guys weren’t doping. 35+ year old DEs still playing that well don’t just happen.

  32. goodell is such a phony. they did no interview of gomer manning and no investigation when it was beyond clear he cheated and doped.

    now, goodell is trying to show consistency with his behaviors except brady was interviewed for over 4 hours and still offered his phone.

    it is amazing that any educated adult even still believes goodell on ANYTHING.

    gomer manning used undetectable chinese roids from guyer and von miller and company tapped into his supply.

    von miller is shawne merriroid

  33. If they all passed the drug tests they took, what does it matter what an Arab news channel says?

  34. Manning asked if he used hgh, response was no. Case closed. Nothing about 2 goons sent to clinic or his accusers house to intimidate. Nothing about why hgh sent to his wife. No cell phone, email or team investigations. This commissioner is the worst in all of American pro sports

  35. Again, you need to look at the history. Did we not all watch the downfall of baseball with the Mitchell Report? When it was obvious baseball was going nothing about, Congress did? And as a result of Spygate, players, staff and coaches are required to fully cooperate in an NFL investigation. The same process was put into affect during deflategate. The NFL does not have subpena power and the players have a right to refuse to turn over anything. And Peyton Manning had no choice but to participate in the investigation. If was found guilty, he would serve his suspension in the form that any staff member would receive. Rumor is Peyton wants a staff job in the NFL. He would have been given a didn’t type of warning had he not been interviewed.

  36. So the NFL is admitting that the current drug testing procedure is flawed and guys that use PED’s must tell on themselves.Gee i took a 20 minute break at work today and the rules say i am only allowed 15 minutes.Guess i march into the bosses office tomorrow and ask for forgiveness. Bullcrap NFL ,test the players and let the chips fall where they may.

  37. ctbarryjr says:
    Aug 15, 2016 6:50 PM
    Listen, these guys are paid millions. If they have nothing to hide, open up like manning rather than cheat like brady.
    —————–
    What details did the league “investigators” release about their “thorough 7-month investigation” of Peyton? Zero. What level of co-operation did Manning provide? Did he hand over his phone? Did he hand over his and his wife’s medical records that his team removed from Guyer rather than give the league permission to do it? We simply don’t know, which screams of sham and cover-up.

    Remember, Wells said Brady “fully co-operated” and that he didn’t need Brady’s phone (which he had no right to anyway under the CBA). But because of flimsy evidence Goodell said the lack of a phone (despite logs of phone being offered by Brady, which Goodell refused), was tantamount to a scheme! And for an NFL rule that doesn’t apply to players but would be a team violation.

  38. Clay Matthews: “come on guys, we’re the packers…the media loves us, fans love us, small town charm and all that nonsense…no way we get caught and if we did, remember we are the packers! We will never get in trouble…!”

    Famous last words.

  39. Hahaha!!!! I don’t want to hear any complaining about Goodell’s power and how unfair this from any of you jokers. It’s gonna get worse, the framing of Brady was just the begininng.

  40. I can just see the headline now. “Goodell finds the Al Jazeera 4 more likely than not were aware PEDS are used by some players in the NFL” Bag em and tag em, they’re done. 4 games at least. King Roger has spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done.

  41. There are thousands of people in prisons across this land, some even on death row, that “had nothing to hide so they sat down to talk with the cops.”

    I expect this level of stupidity from the purples, but the rest of you are better than this.

  42. As a Packer fan I say good. I find cheaters abhorrent. Suspend them as long as is necessary to get to the bottom of it then apply the rules in correct fashion. I am sick of the year ending with asterisks. I want to see a true champion crowned every year. If it is my team so be it. It is a small price to pay for integrity. This is the difference between real fans and the kind that just blindly support their teams. Cheating should carry with it the kinds of penalties that make the spectre of getting caught so unpalatable that cheating becomes unthinkable for all. As I type this these guys are probably smashing cell phones right now.

  43. Obviously this is about nothing more or less than an ego-trip for Goodell; i suspect that Harrison is the main target of harrassment and the other three are just smokescreens to cover the personal hatred Goodell has for Harrison.

  44. trailerparkking says:
    Aug 15, 2016 6:50 PM
    The NFLPA advised their players to refuse interviews. Their advice is going to cost these players game checks. The NFLPA had to challenge the NFL publicly and look what happened….
    If I’m a union member I’m filing a grievance against the NFLPA because they are charging players for terrible advice and ultimately costing players money. Why pay dues for this low quality of protection?
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    Ahh, the ostrich view. How can you not see that prior to the Brady and Peterson decisions the NFLPA was giving the right advice according to the CBA? The courts have now given Roger the right to move the game over to Conduct Detrimental Field at a whim and without notice.
    Make no mistake a reckoning is coming, the next CBA negotiations will be a bloodbath.

  45. Do you guys defending the NFL really have to wait until it happens to your team to understand what`s going on? All of the “if you have nothing hide tell all” crowd of idiots can`t seem to grasp it`s about a fair due process that is lacking from Goodell. He is ignoring clearly stated parts of the CBA and getting away with it. Tagliabue had the same power as Goodell he just didn`t abuse it because he was smart enough to understand that players are not just employees but partners and you need at least a certain level of trust for a partnership to work and Goodell is blowing it up. The fans who seem to hate other teams more than they like theirs are partly to blame because we`ve seen several times how the NFL will cave to public pressure but you guys keep cheering him for screwing the other 31 teams so he keeps getting away with it.

  46. contra74isloosebutthole says:
    Aug 15, 2016 7:31 PM
    As a Packer fan I say good. I find cheaters abhorrent. Suspend them as long as is necessary to get to the bottom of it then apply the rules in correct fashion. I am sick of the year ending with asterisks. I want to see a true champion crowned every year. If it is my team so be it. It is a small price to pay for integrity. This is the difference between real fans and the kind that just blindly support their teams. Cheating should carry with it the kinds of penalties that make the spectre of getting caught so unpalatable that cheating becomes unthinkable for all. As I type this these guys are probably smashing cell phones right now.
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    So let me get this straight. Knowing that Rogers preferred his game balls above the legal psi limit and admitted to over inflating, hoping to slip them by the officials you readily admit the Super Bowl in 2010 is tainted and an asterisk should be applied to it. Dang, that’s straight up admirable. Not too many Packer fans will say their QB is an abhorrent cheater.

  47. Has anyone yet explained why a healthy woman in her 30s would require HGH? Moreover, has anyone explained that even if she did, why she wouldn’t get an actual prescription for the HGH from her physician instead of getting bootleg stuff from the Guyer Institute?

  48. The players have only themselves and their joke of a union to blame for all of this. They voted on the current CBA which gave them a bigger piece of the pie but gave Goodell way too much power. Now they have to live with it until it expires.

  49. Nothing will happen to the GB players. They have been protected for decades. That team is allowed to do whatever they want, legal or not, and get away with it.

    That’s why their fan base is a joke. They sucked for over 20 years straight, and this town was a ghost town. Wolf and Favre come into the mix, and all of a sudden they were naming themselves Title Town. They are a bunch of bandwagon, fair weather fans, but pass themselves off as the best fans in the NFL. I should know, I live in GB.

    Case in point, if a defender farted in Favre’s direction during his Green Bay days, it was a penalty. When he was with the Vikings, when he should have went to, and won the SB, he was blantly targeted illegally by that piece of crap Gregg Williams, and not a single flag was thrown. That right there proved to me that it’s not the player that’s protected, it’s the players on that team.

  50. thebirdofprey says:
    Aug 15, 2016 7:01 PM
    NFL can do witch-hunts when it pleases I guess.
    ====================

    This is the same league office you supported in it’s quest to suspend a player when it admitted it had no evidence. But the Packers and the Steelers not having beaten the Hawks in a SB makes THIS is a witch hunt. Got it.
    Wake up folks, anything that can conceivably be moved to the realm of conduct detrimental will be and that is what framegate was all about. The irony here is that the players and the league actually want the same outcome. The difference is because the accusations were public along with the Taylor Teagarden portion having been accurate and the reporter having been provided with an injection and a regimen the league has to give the appearance of doing something.

  51. I’m sure some Patriots fans can educate us about the finer points of ideal gas law as it relates to the unnatural size of Clay Matthews’ head.

  52. This is an empty threat by the NFL. Maybe it’s just the lawyers trying to find a way to make more money from the NFL. I thought you had to fail a drug test to be suspended, not just hearsay. The fundamental part of our justice system is that you are innocent until proven guilty. Also, you have the right to not incriminate yourself. I realize this is the NFL but I think Goodell is greatly overreaching with this. No judge in the world will endorse what they are trying to do. This has gotten to the point where there needs to be a truly independent, third-party arbiter for discipline. I used to support Goodell and most of his decisions but he’s like a power hungry dictator now. This is a fight the NFL is not going to win. This reminds me of McCarthyism (I wasn’t alive when it happened–I’m not that old!).

  53. ctbarryjr says:
    Aug 15, 2016 6:50 PM
    Listen, these guys are paid millions. If they have nothing to hide, open up like manning rather than cheat like brady
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    Oh I got chime in right here. NFL admitted —in court— they have NO evidence of that at all. But apparently you do so you should drop that off to goodell so he can can run with it as the 83rd deflategate leak and look a little less insane over that debacle.

  54. I still think the person being interviewed wanted the company to sound like the next Balco or Biogenesis, and could have just named off some players, I don’t find those people to be the most credible of people.

  55. Good. The NFL is an at will organization. Playing in the league is not a right, it is a privilege. Clamp down on those that used PEDS. The CBA is to protect the players and their reps whiffed on it.

    Plus James Harrison is kind of a jerk.

  56. I think there is some confusion on the service the NFPA offers to players. They can send the actually supplement to them for testing. The list they have just tells them what is banned, but not what supplements have in them. If he didn’t actually send a sample, then he did it wrong. They run a test to tell them what is actually in a sup. Then and only then will they know if it is clean.

  57. Look I personally have been mixed on the NFL. Some good some bad for me. However, I take the high road and say good, suspend these guys if they refuse to talk. My reason and only reason.
    Way too much women abuse, dui;s, gun shots, bar fights, failing to pay child support. The players think they can get away with all this due to the union protecting them. I say BS.
    The NFL has a right to protect the owners, and the fans. These guys have huge contracts and there is a price to pay for being bad, the team, the owner and the fans lose and its time the NFL clearly has the upper hand.

  58. baselman1974 says:
    Aug 15, 2016 8:08 PM
    Clay Matthews and Brian Cushing were on something at USC. Cushing was caught multiple times PEDs. Clay is just smarter.
    _______________

    Mutliple times? He has been supsended once, there are also things that the NCAA doesn’t ban that the NFL does, so he could have been completely clean in college, but not by NFL standards.

  59. These guys have nothing to hide, pony up to the bar and get it over with. Fight it and we know something is going on.
    You guys lost the right for people to believe you. To many so called innocents found guilty after swearing on the bible they didn’t do it.

  60. all Goodell haters can thank Robert Kraft for Goodell being in charge.

    It was Kraft that pushed for goodell to be comish, Goodell was Kraft’s boy and was there for him durring spygate to sweep all the evidence under the rug.

    go look it up if you dont believe me, hate Goodell? blame Kraft.

    thats right pats fans YOUR favorite owner that you love so much IS the reason why Goodell is commish.

  61. wow clay matthews is juicing? he had 42 tackles at LB last year and couldn’t catch a slow, aging Larry Fitzgerald in OT… just imagine how bad he’d be without that stuff!!??

  62. … I think Goodell is greatly overreaching with this. No judge in the world will endorse what they are trying to do.
    —————-
    Two out of three judges that mattered have already given there endorsements. Where have you been?

  63. Goodell is such a moron he thinks the NFL is about him and his power instead of the product on the field.

    He already fixed last years Super Bowl, his former stand up comedian lackey Blandino has the absurd notion that there is always some subjectivity in what is and isnt a catch. Only these 2 morons can turn the NFL into a fixed WWE League where facts dont matter and what they want to see happen, happens. A few yrs ago i couldnt get enough, now there is 1 or 2 watchable games only. The product is turning into a joke

  64. Lionsfan54 says:
    Aug 15, 2016 7:17 PM

    2 “ageless” defensive ends that are athletic freaks and an OLB who has had PED rumors around him since college… here’s my shocked face.

    The bigger surprise would be if these guys weren’t doping. 35+ year old DEs still playing that well don’t just happen.————————————————-

    What about Reggie White? I don’t think he took PED’s.

  65. The players (especially Neal, possibly not Harrison) actually want to get the interviews over with, but the NFLPA won’t let them. The coming court battle is going to make the Brady case seem like a speedy trial. Both the NFL and the NFLPA have dug in for the long haul this time. This is going to crawl it’s way thru our court system for multiple years. It may be decided by the next CBA (in 2021) before this case ever even gets to the Supreme Court.

  66. If this takes as long as the Brady finally being proven a cheater investigation did along with the appeals Harrison will already be on social security by the time anything is determined anyways.

  67. Good Ol Adolf Goodell & C0. taking the word of a report as fact from a news organization that’s basically the FOX of the Middle East…Laughable is an understatement !
    Just like Bountygate, Bullygate & Deflategate the NFL once again out stepping their authority!

  68. Employees generally have an obligation to comply with internal investigations. This isn’t revolutionary. Other than posturing, I’m sure that the NFLPA understands that.

  69. It’s interesting reading these comments. I haven’t paid attention to the nfl since the Super Bowl. A lot of you seem convinced manning was doping…like it’s overwhelming on here saying he cheated. I remember hearing about his wife getting the packages and didn’t hear about why that happened…I’m going to check this out. If manning cheated, and he lied about it, and got away with it, that would be a lance Armstrong like scandal.

  70. I could be wrong but doesn’t ANYONE think that perhaps the NFL has at least some little bit of information other than the AJ story? Do you really think if that’s ALL they had the NFL would be pursuing this? Surely they are not that stupid. They must have at least something else.

  71. If the Manning related “investigation” and both Patriots “gates” don’t prove its more about the who than the supposed infraction in Rogey’s NFL nothing does.

  72. I heard that one of the equipment guys at Lambeau refers to himself as PEDpacker.

    Sounds like enough evidence to me. Cheaters! Suspend them indefinately. Asterisks on all their SB wins!

  73. Know what makes me think that the accusations just might be true?

    The thought “If Al-Jazeera fabricated the story to cause a sensation, why wouldn’t they pick a higher profile guy than Mike Neal”?

    If you were fabricating a story about the NFL and HGH to cause a sensation, how many names would you consider putting on that list BEFORE Mike Neal?

  74. It’s almost like Roger and his clown posse aren’t happy unless they are engaged in legal maneuvers with the NFLPA. Actually, I’m pretty sure that’s it.

  75. My confusion with this comes from the CBA. How can an employer force a union member to cooperate in an interview without first using their subpoena power? And if you can interview them then they should be able to use invoke their 5th Amendment right. Suppose the NFL interviews these players and they each answer every question with, “I invoke my 5th Amendment right as afforded to me by the Constitution,” then the NFL suspends these players. How is it Constitutional for a judge to say, “yeah, you’re right NFL they have to talk and you can take away their Constitutional rights.” Finally, if the CBA was written where this type of action by the NFL is ok then whoever wrote and approved the CBA for the NFLPA should be fired and disbarred as an embarrassment to all attorneys.

  76. Are we really going to go through this again? Just give it up NFLPA, you are stuck until the next CBA. You signed an awful deal without paying attention to the consequences. Now you have to live with them.

    They will judge shop, find some pathetic judge that likes to legislate from the bench, and they’ll win. The NFL will appeal, it will go to a judge that cares about the law, and now what they think the law should be, and the NFL will win. Just like “deflategate”

    A shame that players, and to a lesser extent fans, have to deal with this stuff so that the lawyers and the NFLPA can try to pretend they didn’t get fleeced

  77. So let me get this straight. Knowing that Rogers preferred his game balls above the legal psi limit and admitted to over inflating, hoping to slip them by the officials you readily admit the Super Bowl in 2010 is tainted and an asterisk should be applied to it. Dang, that’s straight up admirable. Not too many Packer fans will say their QB is an abhorrent cheater.
    ______________________
    Be real. If the officials okayed the balls than blame them. Once a person alters the balls after the officials have inspected them that is cheating. Rodgers gave the officials every chance to do their jobs. He didn’t conspire with other employees to sneak off and alter the game balls after they had been inspected like a loser.

  78. Al Jazeera America was struggling to get viewers. Staffers were told to “…make it American.” Anchors and execs signed 3 year contracts in 2013. They knew their jobs were at risk. What is more American than the NFL? This was nothing more than an attempt by Al Jazeera America to gain an audience.

    The NFL found no credible evidence against Manning. The informant was an intern for only 3 months at the Guyer Institute AND he recanted his claims. Al Jazeera America had it’s last broadcast less than 4 months after the report came out. And Goodell is continuing with an investigation of these players? Pathetic.

  79. You’ve spent too long thinking this is some game where if the guilty player can manage to cover it up well enough, he should be applauded and considered innocent. The NFL isn’t in the wrong in this, they just aren’t telling you everything they know, which you’ve decided is reason enough to paint the story your own way.

    The players should have done the interviews already. The NFL PA is little more than the ACLU of the League…they owe no allegiance to the truth, just to the thought of protecting their members *guilty or innocent* at all costs, which makes them look like idiots when they’re in the wrong. You can portray yourself as “protecting the little guy”, but it’s no more than veneer.

  80. theashleyguy says:
    Aug 15, 2016 6:43 PM
    If I own a hardware store, and there is an article in the newspaper that four of my employees are using, it doesn’t mean they are. But I certainly have the right to ask them about it.

    I don’t have to have “credible evidence” they are guilty to be able to talk to them and find out what’s going on.
    =====================
    You also don’t have a collectively bargained employment contract with any of them…

  81. Somehow this just feels like poetic justice for all the Vikings fans who have had to listen to Packers fans babble about Adrian ‘Cheaterson’ since his comeback from the ACL. I, for one, will love sitting back and watching this play out. The shoe is officially on the other foot, cheeseheads.

  82. I’m certainly not a friend of the NFL’s front office but I see zero problem with the league’s request. They ask, you cooperate, it really (should) be that simple. Players, you were accused of wrong doing… go and defend yourself.

    Bottom line, players work for the NFL, not the other way around; if they don’t like the league rules then leave. It really is that simple.

  83. i’m in no way suggesting the league is right in what they’re doing right now, but the four of them should just agree to the interviews and respond “no” or “i don’t know” to every question, and move on. if they don’t have anything to hide, it isn’t worth a suspension even though they’re right in their stance that they shouldn’t have to give an interview for an al jazeera report that has been widely proven to be full of it

  84. Apparently “innocent until proven guilty” only applies in a court of law.

    Where’s the smoking gun? Claims (which were subsequently recanted) that players were given PEDs are now substantial enough to warrant suspensions, even though the league tests ALL players at random? I’ll guarantee you Matthews (and Peppers, and the rest) has been tested on more than one occasion. Don’t you think if anything had been in his system that he would have been suspended by now?

    But carry on, by all means, Viking fans. We know your childish petulance knows no bounds.

  85. drunkraider says:
    Aug 15, 2016 8:49 PM

    all Goodell haters can thank Robert Kraft for Goodell being in charge.

    It was Kraft that pushed for goodell to be comish, Goodell was Kraft’s boy and was there for him durring spygate to sweep all the evidence under the rug.

    go look it up if you dont believe me, hate Goodell? blame Kraft.

    thats right pats fans YOUR favorite owner that you love so much IS the reason why Goodell is commish

    still don’t understand the memo about videotaping signals I see.

    its going to rain today, damn that Kraft!

  86. “Facts: Manning’s own agent has VERIFIED that HGH was indeed sent to Peyton Manning’s house, allegedly for his wife (and under his wife’s name, Ashley).

    Facts: Ashley Manning gave birth to twins in 2011 and therefore there is no legitimate, nor legal (even off label) use for Ashley Manning to be using HGH especially considering that infertility clearly wasn’t a problem (i.e. the twins she had). She does not have HIV/AIDS, nor does she have a growth deficiency, nor any other FDA approved justification for HGH

    Facts: Peyton Manning had the best statistical season of his illustrious career at the age of 39, coming off of 4 neck surgeries, and the possibility he would never play again. The NFL began HGH testing in 2014 and Manning has declined precipitously since testing was instituted.

    Which is more realistic: Ashley Manning is taking HGH after giving birth to twins (dangerous and counter productive), or Peyton Manning used HGH to get an edge to return to the field (and perform better than he ever has) and used his wife as cover in the event he was caught? Hmmm. Let’s put our critical thinking skills on.

    Dr. Guyer claims Sly never worked at his clinic until 2013 but standard employment records as well as Al Jazeera’s own fact-checking cache, has shown that he definitely worked at Guyer’s clinic in 2011.”

  87. kaepernickin says:
    Aug 16, 2016 5:28 AM
    Sooo, Manning spilled the beans in order to save his image! He has nothing to lose now and the NFL will protect their Golden Boy in exchange for the other four current players.
    =====================

    I cant believe everyone missed that point. I agree with this.

    Yes, all of the above comments about Goodell getting this power by hanging Brady is true and all of that. But the major point being missed is Manning was cleared, because there was no credible evidence. But the rest of the players weren’t cleared??? The evidence is only credible against these 4 players? Manning was guilty. The NFL knows it, but Manning sold out the rest of them and agreed to retire from the game. In exchange, he goes unpunished. But he gave them all the evidence that they needed. The players know its true, the NFL (thanks to Manning) knows its true. And now they are trying to find a way to snag them up without tarnishing Manning. Its disgusting

  88. You know what I think? I think some of you so-called football fans are worse than spoiled little kids. Saying things such as the Packers get all the calls and nonsense like that shows you are nothing but childish.
    Anyone remember the great winning TD to Terrell Owens by Steve Young after he nearly fell down backing away from center? That was against the Packers in the playoffs in 1998.
    I will never forget it because a play or two earlier, Jerry Rice caught a pass and was hit by two Packers and clearly fumbled. It wasn’t even close, but the call wasn’t made. That call was one they didn’t get.
    Need I remind anyone about the infamous rob job the scab officials did when the Packers clearly beat the Seahawks by intercepting Russell Wilson’s desperate pass in the end zone? That is still the worse call in NFL history.
    I could go on and on, but you get the point. Whiny fans of other teams say the Packers get all the calls because the Packers are the team which has won the most championships. It’s pure jealousy and whining.
    So keep on crying and keep on watching your loser teams.

  89. contra74isloosebutthole says:
    Aug 16, 2016 3:09 AM
    So let me get this straight. Knowing that Rogers preferred his game balls above the legal psi limit and admitted to over inflating, hoping to slip them by the officials you readily admit the Super Bowl in 2010 is tainted and an asterisk should be applied to it. Dang, that’s straight up admirable. Not too many Packer fans will say their QB is an abhorrent cheater.
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    Be real. If the officials okayed the balls than blame them. Once a person alters the balls after the officials have inspected them that is cheating. Rodgers gave the officials every chance to do their jobs. He didn’t conspire with other employees to sneak off and alter the game balls after they had been inspected like a loser.
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    I can’t get any more real. Science PROVED no deliberate deflation occurred, hence, no violation. What was proven is Brady consistently stated he wanted the balls set to 12.5, the LEGAL limit, unlike your boy Cheatin Aaron Rogers who bragged to the national media about his nefarious intentions. Besides, explain please why the Colts balls that were inspected at halftime were also below the limit. This after sitting in a warm room 15-20 minutes. Explain why the officials stopped at 4. Ran out of time? You be real, that’s plain hogwash. Also explain why Cheatin Aaron had his worse season as a pro when psi became a thing and he no longer could scam the system. You’re not being truthful. You hate cheaters on other teams, whether they are or not. You however hate when your guy is caught cheating but there you go, doing the thing you say you hate others for doing, defending your boy when you know for a fact he is a weasel at worst or just like the rest of the NFL, trying to get an edge because winning isn’t everything, it’s the ONLY thing!

  90. To all the clowns claiming it’s laughable that Manning’s wife would take HGH:

    Google “HGH for women”

    Suzanne Somers pushes it for everything from wrinkles to weight loss. PERFECTLY LEGAL. The risk/reward ratio is debatable, but plenty of women do it. But we all knew you were disingenuous anyway. And so did you.

  91. scotto56 says:
    Aug 16, 2016 7:46 AM
    Apparently “innocent until proven guilty” only applies in a court of law.

    Where’s the smoking gun? Claims (which were subsequently recanted) that players were given PEDs are now substantial enough to warrant suspensions, even though the league tests ALL players at random? I’ll guarantee you Matthews (and Peppers, and the rest) has been tested on more than one occasion. Don’t you think if anything had been in his system that he would have been suspended by now?

    But carry on, by all means, Viking fans. We know your childish petulance knows no bounds.

    _______________

    Some of you people are ungodly thick. THIS IS NOT CRIMINAL COURT. “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY” COULD NOT POSSIBLY MEAN LESS. It’s not “court” at all, it’s a labor dispute. If after that dispute, the NFLPA bring a suit, THEN it goes to court, but EVEN THEN, it’s civil court, NOT CRIMINAL. “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY” IS NOT THE REQUIREMENT

  92. Three packer players…. one is too old and trying to lengthen his career, another is over rated an over achieving …then disappearing… the other is a marginal player trying to stay in the league..all prime candidates for high abuse. not that it would hurt the defense anyway..but they should all be suspended for 10 games.

  93. Actually “Innocent until proven guilty” does apply in civil court, the standard of proof is just lower (preponderance of the evidence vs. beyond a reasonable doubt). Your point about a it being a labor dispute is still valid; there is no issue of guilt at all, just due process.

    However, the issue of whether “credible evidence” is needed to compel cooperation is still valid given the contradictory clauses of the CBA.

    Lastly, there was evidence of misconduct in DeflateGate even if the balls gave no advantage. So obstruction of an investigation there was based on an actual investigation that had already happened when misconduct was reported. Here there has been no investigation, there is just a report (substantially discredited, and recanted by the author). Unless, of course, as some have said, Manning dished on the others to escape public ridicule and embarassment.

  94. contra74 says:
    Aug 15, 2016 7:20 PM

    Packers should forfeit their SB win. Definite asterisk.
    ________________________________

    Next he’ll say they should probably give it to their opponents to the West…..you know, those clowns wearing dark pink. Today’s millennials, I tell ya…..can’t earn anything…no work ethic…need a handout.

    Shocking.

  95. orange and blue own the nfl says:
    Aug 16, 2016 10:32 AM

    To all the clowns claiming it’s laughable that Manning’s wife would take HGH:

    Google “HGH for women”

    Suzanne Somers pushes it for everything from wrinkles to weight loss. PERFECTLY LEGAL. The risk/reward ratio is debatable, but plenty of women do it. But we all knew you were disingenuous anyway. And so did you.
    ………………….

    FDA has only approved HGH use for very specific ailments, for children ailments associated with growth difficulties, Turner syndrome, Prader WIlli syndrome and others, for adults FDA approved uses are for wasting syndrome associated with AIDS, and for various HGH deficiencies often found in elderly people (ie not Ashley Manning) . The DEA deems off label uses illegal, but very commonly HGH is abused by athletes and adults looking for antiaging effects. Also the Guyer Institute was found to have bought illegally imported Chinese HGH in 2007.

    It’s certainly not laughable Ashley Manning would take it, but it also means the Guyer Institute is not the most medically law abiding clinic on the block.

  96. However, the issue of whether “credible evidence” is needed to compel cooperation is still valid given the contradictory clauses of the CBA.

    That’s a fine point, but what you’re taking for granted is that you are entitled to know what the credible evidence is. You aren’t. This is right along the lines of the NFL taking pressure readings…you are not entitled to know what their readings are. If the League thinks they have enough data to warrant interviewing these players, that’s enough…you don’t get to demand to know what they know. In the immortal words of the Dwead Pi’ate Woberts: Get used to disappointment.

  97. Let me see if I got this – The league is moving to protect its image by requiring cooperation and threatening suspensions in a matter where none of the public gives any credence to the persons and entities claiming players did wrong?

    Smart – to heck with players fans and logical conclusions, we got to run this baby in the ground to prove to our fans and public that we dont just let go of matters where nothing is to be gained by running it into the ground.

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