Statement from Joey Bosa’s representatives

AP

[Editor’s note: CAA, the firm that represents Chargers defensive end Joey Bosa, issued a statement on Wednesday night in response to a statement issued and comments made by the team on Wednesday.]

It is unfortunate the San Diego Chargers have decided to manipulate facts and negotiate in the media.  The team surely is not strengthening its relationship with Joey Bosa by taking this stance and making their position public.

We have decided that we will not engage in public negotiations or discuss numbers and/or terms in this negotiation.

We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.

At this point, all we can do is continue to fight for a fair contract on behalf of our client, as we do for all of our clients.  The Chargers can focus on trying to sway public opinion, but our focus will remain on our client and securing a contract for him that is fair and consistent with his draft position.

50 responses to “Statement from Joey Bosa’s representatives

  1. Yeah you do set the tone when you dont answer initial negotiations for 2 weeks. I mean, whats the point in doing that unless you are just trying to be a jerk or attempt to show that you have all the power?

  2. What a mess from the Chargers perspective. Not only is this kid going to be a monumental bust but he is trying to stick it to you in negotiations as well. I am obviously not an NFL executive but I cannot understand why he was taken anywhere near the top 20. He is very sound fundamentally and has good technique but that only goes so far in the NFL. Where is his explosion and burst off the line? What a mistake for SD.

  3. If I were a future potential draft pick that might wind up with the Chargers, I’d be talking to Archie, Eli & Co.. This has to be the worst I’ve ever seen a billion dollar + sports franchise handle a salary dispute – and with a player in whom the have already invested quite a bit.
    I imagine veterans looking ahead to free agency opportunities are also crossing them off their list.
    And I doubt they’re impressing the public that has to vote for that new stadium with their business acumen, either.

    San Diego Ijits.

  4. Sure Bosa will be a bust (maybe SD realized this after the fact), but you have to wonder why this mess keeps happening to the Chargers? (maybe draft picks realize this after they get selected by the Chargers, save for Eli)

  5. Yeah…the Chargers organization is really trying to stick it to Bosa by attempting to saddle him with the largest signing bonus from the last two draft classes [insert eye roll here]. Bosa’s insistence that the money be given to him upfront and with guarantees against him becoming a bust, speaks volumes on what he really thinks of his abilities. Let the POS try his luck in next year’s draft. He’ll be lucky to land half what he was offered by SD.

  6. If a player struggles a team is usually quick to get rid of him as long as their cap/contract allows them to, so I take the side of the player. Get all the money you can while u can. If it doesn’t work out, he might lose some money in a redraft but the team loses a 3rd overall pick and gets nothing in return. He might not have leverage in the contract dispute but if he turns out to be a perennial pro bowler whose gonna hurt more

  7. If this was a normal kid, I’d feel bad for him. This kid came up from $, his mom opened her mouth when she should have kept it closed. I hope Chargers just let him go to next years draft at this point where he’s nowhere near a top 3 pick.

  8. Agents are fairly screwing up their client’s future and ruining a team’s season in the process w their bs intransigence.

    Can’t see them negotiating properly what revsions need to be made either given Bosa is already missing part of yr 1.

  9. Bosa might be right or wrong, but chargers were idiots for taking this public… it’s an unwritten but largely understood rule. that’s a recipe for toxicity not a team.

  10. I agree that the team taking this issue public is a classless move. That being said, it is my understanding there are two sticking points. The first is the amount of money he wants up front. The Chargers have offered a substantially large sum as a signing bonus. The second is the offset language preventing him from double dipping should things not work out. IMHO, it appears he is wanting all of his money up front without offset language almost as if he is anticipating being cut before his contract is up. I admit I am not an expert on NFL contracts but it just seems like Bosa has much more to lose in this standoff than he can possibly gain, especially now that he has forced the team to take firm stance. I almost feel like there is something going on that we are not privy to, I.e. Undisclosed injury, not wanting to play for the Chargers (and demanding a trade later)…

  11. This kicks the snot out of shard Knocks. It’s like when you broke up with your girl in HS Everyone has to state their case why they suck less then the other LOL.

  12. “We will say, that it is ironic that the team now takes issue with the timing of Joey’s arrival, since the Chargers unilaterally decided to remain silent for the first 14 days of training camp instead of replying in a timely fashion to the proposal we made on the eve of training camp on July 28th.”

    Shots fired!

  13. CAA? Are his Agents part-time where they work the 8-5 shift at Taco Bell? This is amateur hour. You can’t make this stuff up. Are you thinking the Chargers are now going to increase the offer? Hey dopes at CAA–the offer is only go to go down. Bosa’s only optionnow since he has egg(SSSSS) all over his face are to throw his Agents under the bus and hire someone that has some credibility. Note to Joey: Do not even think to talk to your Dad who fizzled out faster than a fart in the wind.

  14. “kentonkirkpatrick says:
    Aug 24, 2016 8:12 PM

    Do these guys not realize the time value of money, the money he would forfeit this year would be almost impossible to make up.”

    Better than playing for the Chargers.

  15. Aug 24, 2016 8:23 PM – stexan says: If I were a future potential draft pick that might wind up with the Chargers, I’d be talking to Archie, Eli & Co….

    Not me. I’d be looking forward to cashing a $14 million check and getting ready to play football.

  16. Can we PLEASE delay the BUST comments on someone who hasn’t even been to an NFL practice and just say that although both sides look terrible in this, Bosa’s agent has done him no favours in this hardline stance.

    Since the rookie wage scale was implemented, NOBODY makes all their money on their rookie contract. You take what’s slotted for your draft position and then make yourself invaluable to the team…

  17. kentonkirkpatrick says:
    Aug 24, 2016 8:12 PM
    Do these guys not realize the time value of money, the money he would forfeit this year would be almost impossible to make up.

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    That’s odd that you point that out as one of the two points of contention is that Bosa wants his signing bonus all up front where as the Chargers want to split it up between this year and next. Maybe he does understand the time value of money.

  18. stexan says:
    Aug 24, 2016 8:23 PM
    If I were a future potential draft pick that might wind up with the Chargers, I’d be talking to Archie, Eli & Co.. This has to be the worst I’ve ever seen a billion dollar + sports franchise handle a salary dispute – and with a player in whom the have already invested quite a bit.
    I imagine veterans looking ahead to free agency opportunities are also crossing them off their list.
    And I doubt they’re impressing the public that has to vote for that new stadium with their business acumen, either.

    San Diego Ijits.

    —————————————

    Really? I think just the opposite is likely true for veterans and the public. They probably like the fact that a team is standing up to a diva rookie. No vet likes a diva rookie.

  19. Actually a big part of the problem is Bosa’s agent Tom Condon.

    Chargers have generally had good relations w most agents but they have a long history w Condon.

    No wonder Bosa’s mum was griping about Eli Manning. Condon was his agent. Also the agent for Shawn Merriman and LT who both had notorious and acrimonious hold outs of a month or longer.

    Guy is bad news regardless of who he deals w.

  20. Sadly Brock thinks being poor is normal, he said if he was normal, but he came up from money. Well Brock, just because your dad is a loser and you ate Mac n cheese all your life,…well go ahead and drown in your jealousy.

  21. If he goes to re-draft next year, being a second round pick (at best) will ensure that he makes less on the entire contract than his signing bonus would be this year. There’s plenty of stupidity on both sides, but Bosa has the most to lose. His agents aren’t doing him any favors. SD is a crap organization, but you’d expect a college boy to be able to do simple math.

  22. Bosa is a mean, fast, 21 year old DE with a motor. He was picked #3 overall in this draft.

    One year from now, Joey Bosa will be a a mean, fast, 22 year old DE with a motor. Anyone who thinks he will fall out of the Top Five is delusional.

    As for the “he can never make that money back” . . . well when you don’t have a deal, you are not losing a nickel. In addition, if he is drafted Top Five by a non-California or non-New Jersey team, I daresay he will save enough on taxes AND get one year’s bump in rookie money to make sitting out a year and lifting and running and not getting hit pay off for him.

    He MAY have a long career ahead of him. Or this might be his one and only contract. Anyone who faults him for not looking out for his own long term interests is a management suck up.

  23. Some of you says things as if Bosa is making this decision for himself. Do you honestly think that before all of this, he knew the difference between offset language, deferrals, his ass, or a hole in the ground?

    His agent won’t let him sign a bad contract or for anything less than his draft slotted value. If they did, that agent won’t be getting many more high value clients any time soon.

    Of course Bosa should be making more than anyone else in the draft other than Wentz (Goff has no offsets or deferrals, and Wentz was #2 overall) Should he be making less than the players drafted below him? Of course he should get more money than any other Chargers draft pick since the latest CBA. He is their first top 10 pick in that span.

    If this goes all to hell, I think more highly rated players in the future will be “pulling and Eli” if this is what they can expect from the Chargers brass, because their logic is all out of whack.

  24. Some idiot team like the Bills will just take him 2nd overall next year.
    Nothing to lose on his part. Can go back to partying at OSU one more year and try to complete his PE degree.

  25. The two phrases in that statement that rang true are…..

    “It is unfortunate the San Diego Chargers have decided to manipulate facts and negotiate in the media.”

    And

    “The Chargers can focus on trying to sway public opinion, but our focus will remain on our client and securing a contract for him that is fair and consistent with his draft position.”

    I see from comments that swaying public opinion is effective. Most of the San Diego fans neither grasp nor care about the significance of the contract having deferred bonus while also omitting the offset language. This would be the first contract of a top pick to ever be that way, a precedent the Chargers conveniently forgets to mention in any of their press statements.

    The bonus itself is indeed large but really all they are trying to do is purchase the precedent, if they can set it with Bosa all teams can then use it to put the screws to players. I have to commend Bosa for being willing to take the hit and not grab for himself leaving other young players to suffer in the future,

    Because this would open a door for owners to put the screws to rookies you have to figure the NFL is pulling the strings putting Spanos up to it. You also have to note the press releases that selectively use info to spin a less than true narrative is a page right out of Goodells playbook so that also shows his fingers in this. He has asked Spanos to set this precedent trying to give more money to Bosa because setting the precedent will in the long run allow the owners to tighten up what they give new players increasing their profits by far more than they give Bosa if just grabs the big bonus.

    In return for doing this the return favor Spanos wants from Goodell is help and support in leaving San Diego. He did not get enough of that before the Rams got the cherry he wanted. So he is playing for that favor so he can try again. Those San Diego fans that are getting all angry because they want their player in uniform should weigh that against how if Spanos pulls this off it is a step toward losing the team.

  26. It’s really strange to me how so many “fans” despise players for trying to get as much money as they possibly can, in the tiny window they have to make it, why is that? I personally can not predict his future output to have a valid opinion, but this does seem to happen in San Diego more than anywhere else, always in national media spotlight too and the team certainly isn’t in the spotlight for winning anything.

  27. Aside from Bosa not playing a snap yet, the rookie DL that looks the best thus far in preseason is Jonathon Bullard in Chicago. That dude explodes off the line and is in the backfield before the OL is out of their stance. What a steal the Bears got in the 3rd Round.

  28. I hope he holds out for the 2017 draft.
    I’ll tell you what’s going to happen.
    There are NO TEAMS who want a malcontent on their roster or in the clubhouse.
    He will drop in the draft unless there’s a crappy team who is desperate and buckles in to the agent demands.

  29. Sadly, this is not Bosa’s fault. This is entirely the workings of his agent, who wants a bigger name for himself and along with future leverage in his negotiations on behalf of other clients. Bottom line: Bosa is good, but only good. He is not great and does not deserve more money than all the other drafted players. The agent doesn’t care. But, if Joey was smart, he’d fire the agent and hire one whose track record in the NFL is reasonably successful. His real money and worth will be in the contract’s extension 4 years from now. It is best Joey stop his agent from creating so much bad blood with the team’s management.

  30. For those saying “can’t fault a player for trying to make as much as they can in their limited window”, are the numbers clicking to you? This world is full of people who would be perfectly happy making $50k/yr for the next 40 years. For those bad at math, that’s $2 million. So when some little moron comes along saying that his 8 figure signing bonus isn’t enough, I have no pity. Let him rot, I could care less. If $5 million up front doesn’t set you for life, you’re too stupid to have that money. Period.

  31. It is amazing how both sides managed to botch this. The Chargers stick to their “we’ve always done it this way” guns while the other 31 teams adjusted to the new CBA. Bosa refuses to sign a contract that, while inconsistent with other top 5 picks, is worth far more than he will get by sitting out and getting re-drafted.

    Meanwhile, Archie Manning sits back and sips his tea, Kermit T. Frog style, and says, “I told you so” – much the same way John Elway did when the Colts sneaked off to Indy.

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