Mangini isn’t sure Kaepernick has regressed, or that he’d be blackballed

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At a time when the popular narrative regarding 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick starts with the notion that he has regressed a as a player and ends with the question of whether he’ll ever get another chance with another NFL team after refusing to stand for the national anthem, a coach who worked closely with Kaepernick in each of the last three years sees the situation differently.

Former Jets and Browns coach Eric Mangini, initially hired by the 49ers in June 2013 as an offensive consultant charged with helping the team figure out how defenses would try to stop Kaepernick, later served as tight ends coach and then as defensive coordinator with the team. And so Mangini knows Kaepernick as well as anyone, and Mangini has worked with Kaepernick from a variety of perspectives.

He joined Monday’s PFT Live to share his thoughts on Kaepernick’s current situation, and the message was clear: Mangini isn’t ready to say Kaepernick has regressed.

“I really like Colin and I liked being able to spend time with Colin on the offensive side,” Mangini said. “I don’t know if that evaluation [that he has regressed] is completely fair. He was in different systems. The system we had under Jim Harbaugh was different than Jim Tomsula, and now he’s under a different system again. That’s not always the easiest thing for a guy to do is to transition year in and year out to a different system. I’d like to see what he can do in this system before we say he’s regressed. He’s had the one preseason game, gave him some time, gave him some reps. I think there’s a lot of things that he does well and that’ll fit into Chip [Kelly’s] system really well. We’ve only got a very limited look at it though.”

So would Mangini pursue Kaepernick if Mangini were currently coaching a team and needed a quarterback?

“You know, Colin has a unique skill set,” Mangini said. “It would depend on what offense I was running because I would want him to compliment whoever my quarterback was. I don’t know if you can lump it in like that; it would just depend on I think the system. I think in this system [with the 49ers] I think he’s a good fit and I would like to see what he can do and I like Blaine Gabbert a lot. But I’d like to see what he can do is this system because it may be something that ends up being a really smart decision to keep him and to give him the opportunity. With how many reps did he get the other night, 15, 20, whatever it was, it’s hard to I think universally say, ‘Hey this isn’t working at this point.'”

With Kaepernick, a separate question has emerged. Would Kaepernick’s political views and gesture make Kaepernick undesirable?

“I think that anytime you have distractions and I keep bringing this up, Mike, and I know you and I have talked about before, it’s an issue,” Mangini said. “It’s something that you have to consider. When you look at a guy like Tim Tebow and the things that he brought to a team and he had a unique skill set but there were a lot of other things that surrounded him. You have to evaluate it from the perspective of, ‘Does he add enough value to offset some of these other things that are going to come in now that he’s made the decisions that he’s made?’ and you don’t make it in a vacuum. You’ve got to look at the skill set, you’ve got to look at the contribution, you’ve got to look at the opportunity that you have and that he has to make your team better but then you’ve got to weigh that against what else comes with that player and are you willing to deal with those distractions and how much do you think they’re going to affect the group as a whole and the progress of the team as a whole. I don’t know if he’ll be universally blackballed, though.”

In the NFL, where the supply of quarterbacks never matches the demand, it’s hard to imagine a team that: (1) has a need at the position; and (2) has seen on a first-hand basis the best of what Kaepernick can do automatically scratching him off the list simply because of his position on the national anthem.

21 responses to “Mangini isn’t sure Kaepernick has regressed, or that he’d be blackballed

  1. This joke of a player is only trying to make himself relevant any way he can. Where was he on these issues 2 years ago?

    Pathetic loser!!!

  2. Kaepernick has become an extremely toxic focal point, and if left on the 49er’s he will destroy their locker room. He has now just stabbed in the back one of the brightest most positive aspects of race relations in America: the NFL. It’s time to ban him from the NFL for life.

  3. The guy went from playing at a pretty high level for a really good coach, to playing for a guy that should have never been a coach, to being hurt.

    Seems like he would be a good fit for a Chip Kelly offense.

  4. Kelly’s offense looked to be something Kaepernick would be well suited for. His inability to beat out Gabbert is red flag #1. The fact Gabbert hasn’t looked very good and still is ahead of Kaepernick is red flag #2. Throw in his becoming a distraction off the field and you’ll have most if not all teams looking elsewhere.

  5. mangini has been an NOBODY since he got a few the soprano’s cameos.

    he can coach a team…

    and kaep, warren sapp, hugh douglas, key SHAWN, tony siraGOOOOsa and ray lewis can be some of his players

    the whole group is out of work. team name could be the IDLERS

  6. Colin Kap took an atom bomb to initiate a debate..he blew up the front porch and asked why the message didn’t get through the front door..kaps message of racism, social injustice was muted. No problem with your use of freedom of speech..the mode of transportation you used was horrible. Spit on the graves that gave you the freedom to write things like ‘7 storms coming’ along with a picture of the Houston floods on Insta..Kap what have you done for the community, or for BLM besides tweet about such injustices..nothing..he offered not a single solution during his speiel..just criticism..no action..As your skill and celebrity continue to decline at a rapid rate, you’ve found a way to get on the front page for the wrong reason

  7. As a 49er fan and frequent watcher of their games I wouldn’t say Kap has regressed, he just hasn’t progressed. Once other teams figured out that if you cover his 1, 2, and 3 options at receiver on a pass play while he is looking at each, he is going to tuck and run. That leaves defenses with only having to play cover very briefly, then allow the linebackers to watch for the run and it effectively shuts him down because he hasn’t progressed any further than that in his career in the NFL.

  8. If a guy can play QB, he’s not going to be blackballed for sitting during the dang anthem. However, Kap could only read one-half of the defensive field even when he was playing well (the read-option ain’t rocket science), and now he’s coming off an offseason of post-surgical rehab and couldn’t sufficiently prepare his body for an NFL season. Combine that with his third offense in the last 3 years and its not hard to predict regression.

  9. It’s not a narrative when the eyeball test, statistical test, and the test of reality all align. He sucks.

    (Test of reality, in this case means the people in power, those that decide which QB starts and who sits have decided last year, and a new regime seems poised to duplicate that decision this year)

    I don’t think he can be a starting QB anywhere. I think the only way he can help a team, is if some team wanted a gadget package. I wouldn’t want him as a backup, and I’ve held this position long before the National Anthem stuff came about. That doesn’t change my opinion of him as a player one bit.

    If Mangini isn’t sure Kaepernick has regressed, he’s not the genius some people once thought he was. Now it’s true that Keapernick was at one point novel to defenses, protected by Harbaugh via scheme, and had a better players around him. That’s all true.

    But those ‘good times’ were an aberration and it would behoove everyone not to chase the dragon. Because we all know it’s futile to chase the dragon.

    But it’s also true that what Chip Kelly’s system needs the most is Kaepernick’s WORST ability. His head. He cannot process information fast or correctly. He can run like the wind, but Kelly’s system needs a mentally fast QB. Need to read defenses pre-snap, make quick decisions.

    Now if Kelly could get a mentally fast QB, with Kaepernick’s athleticism (or at least pre-injuries and weight loss) then that might be the ideal Kelly QB.

    But Kaep doesn’t have the head for it, and that isn’t changing.

    Kaepernick was never good. One read QB’s who max out at 21 TD passes for a seasons in the 21st century (or even the last 2-3 decades of the previous one) weren’t good.

    His skill didn’t take them to the Superbowl, they were on the way there with Alex Smith, when Harbaugh decided to bench his starting QB who deserved to carry on that season for the gimmick. They rode his newness, they protected him via scheme, the lead they had built, and the quality team around him.

    Then before the transformer blew out totally decimating Ravens momentum, they were getting blown out on pace for 49ers Broncos 55-10 like Superbowl.

    The transformer situation and big lead allowed a partial comeback that never would of happened otherwise.

    Who knows if the 49ers would of won had they stuck with Alex Smith. He’s still starting.

    Kaepernicks problem is his head. Most coaches don’t run an offense that caters to the inability of the starting QB to make reads.

  10. He’s right. Kaepernick did not ‘regress.’ Kaepernick had never really ‘progressed.’ Even 2013 when the media was kissing his butt left-and-right his QB rating from the pocket was a pitiful 80.9.

    His only skill was passing out-side the pocket where he had a QB rating of 115.

    NFL defenses simply took that away and, since Mid-2014, his QB rating has been about 78 which is not too different than what he did from the pocket in 2013.

  11. Colin Kaepernick better learn to start using a “U” in a lot of words, such as “honour,” “colour” and “favour” because his next stop will be Saskatchewan or Montreal

  12. kelly’s offense demands quick thinking, quick reacting accurate passing. Why does anyone think kaepernick is well suited to this offense.

  13. Yeah I guess getting worse in yards per attempt, completion %, QBR, TD-INT ratio is not regressing. The guy doesn’t know how to read defenses or go through progressions. The Rams game last year when he could have just thrown it to Torrey Smith uncovered on the outside and had a 90 yard TD but didn’t see it was indicative of how little command of the QB position he has. Any other NFL QB would have seen that. It was pathetic. I’ll take Gabbert over him no question

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