Nate Boyer impressed by Colin Kaepernick’s willingness to listen

AP

Nate Boyer was hoping to see Colin Kaepernick on his feet, but he also thinks that kneeling was a big step.

The former Green Beret and Seahawks training camp long snapper spoke with Kaepernick for 90 minutes about his protest of racism and police brutality by sitting during the national anthem last week, and was next to him when he took a knee last night in San Diego.

I was hoping he was going to stand up,” Boyer told Alex Marvez of the Sporting News. “I would have loved that even more. But I understand what he’s doing and I respect the right to do that.

“It was nice to see him give a little ground here to show he was willing to take a step forward and listen. That’s an important step for a person in his position to get across. He’s showing that he’s open in this conversation as well. It’s not just saying, ‘I’m going to sit until someone else fixes the problem.’ It’s more about, ‘I give you a little, you give me a little and let’s try to work it out.'”

That’s a remarkably reasonable position to a debate that has often lacked civility.

Boyer said he and Kaepernick talked about their backgrounds, and how the protest was perceived. He also hopes the statement leads to more discussion, such as a town hall setting “where we can move the conversation forward with police officers, military veterans, and people of all backgrounds and different organizations.”

Mostly, Boyer seemed to come across as impressed by Kaepernick’s sincerity and seriousness about the issues, which is a step in the right direction.

67 responses to “Nate Boyer impressed by Colin Kaepernick’s willingness to listen

  1. It’s should be rather obvious that CK is genuinely trying to do something to improve the quality of life in this country. That is his goal. It’s astonishing to me that some have misconstrued his goal so badly. It isn’t rocket science. Good for Boyer and Kaepernick for talking about it and relating the issue for those who can’t or don’t want to understand.

  2. I think people should carefully consider Kap’s position, but also feel free to bash him for it.

    No doubt black people in our country need to be treated better by small percentage of white people.

    But all ethnic and racial groups need to take it upon themselves to improve their lot. Asians are the highest earning ethnic group in this country, and yet surely they have been subject to discrimination at times too.

    Even the most oppressed groups in this country have it better than the majority of the rest of the world, and people need to remember that when they are sitting during our national anthem.

  3. Kaepernick gained a little of my respect by taking a knee. It showed that he is sensitive to the overwhelming majority of Americans who revere the flag for what it stands for. Perhaps his concession will bridge the divide and allow his message to penetrate the anger over him sitting.

  4. Anyone who is upset about someone protesting needs to remember which side of the war for independence had the protestors on it.

    It’s American to protest when we see something wrong. His only issue is that he picked a protest (at the flag) that is seen by most as anti military, when his protest has nothing to do with it.

  5. His protest was never really about the flag or the military but rather to express his hatred for cops as evidenced by his pig socks. And his explanation that he meant “rogue cops” with those socks is horse puckey! If someone wore socks with a caricature of a black man as a gorilla, would you buy his explanation that he was only talking about gangstas? Or would you call it “racist” like it clearly is?

    I also like his rationalization that “Hey, I got friends and relatives who are cops”. Now where have we heard that defense before in another context?

  6. The serious issues with the ‘Police State’ and Hate that Oblama poisoned this nation with can only be resolved with the same rebellion that brought freedom in 1776 = Leadership based on ‘We the People’.

    Every “Oppressed” person who hates/disapproves of the Flag can have a FREE Ticket back to their country of origin and
    = DON”T COME BACK

    The USA Flag is a Our Symbol and it is the HIGHEST Symbolic Flag in the WORLD for FREEDOM.

    The past issues of slavery in this country are OVER PEOPLE – GET OVER IT and IMPROVE YOURSELF here or leave.

    More White US Citizen bloodshed was spilt on Our Land to FREE blacks then all the wars the US has fought in combined.

    I BELIEVE in the FREEDOM of “All men CREATED EQUAL by the CREATOR who shed His Blood for us on the Cross which He suffered for ALL of Mankind = Worldwide !!!

  7. I don’t need to be lectured on “oppression” by a privileged millionaire who’s never known or seen oppression who refused to take a “stand” until he was one foot away from being out of the league. I am boycotting the 49ers and the NFL who continually spit in the face of their consumers.

  8. “His only issue is that he picked a protest (at the flag) that is seen by most as anti military”

    That and that he’s protesting based on liberal agenda items that aren’t accurate. It’s good that it’s going to be talked about, but if our leaders can’t be honest about things on all sides, then nothing will change.

  9. For those that disagreed with him sitting, think about this: he was wearing those socks for awhile and nobody noticed. You can effect change without making people uncomfortable. When Mohammed Ali died, everybody praised him to high heaven. And yet this is a guy that refused to serve in the military and was convicted for it. I bet these (some of the) same people praising him in death called him all sorts of names back then.

  10. @thermalito: He lectured you by sitting down? Give me a break.

    lol @ boycotting the NFL…says the guy who’s commenting on a blog about the NFL.

  11. I want to believe he’s sincere in his protest, but his actions, to date, don’t match his words. He says he wants to unite all Americans, yet he wears socks depicting police as pigs. He says he’s protesting oppression, yet he wears a shirt honoring an oppressive dictator. He says he loves America, yet he posts that there’s no difference between the Confederate flag and the American flag. Maybe when he actually donates the $1 million to charity, then I’ll believe that he actually cares.

  12. Tebow should also weigh in as a uniting force of love and understanding. Where is Tebow when it matters? What’s he waiting for? Is he waiting for it to become popular before he sticks his own neck out?

  13. Clearly for many closed minded people, the message was lost and instead the action was all they cared about. Some people just raged at his decision to sit during the anthem and completely ignored what he had to say or what he’s protesting about. Many of the same people like to pretend that racism doesn’t exist or think that black people aren’t experiencing racism. Therefore, they irrationally blast Kaepernick and protest groups such as Black Lives Matter.

  14. This whole thing is so straightforward, to me.

    Up until last week, Kaepernick took the angry millenial approach to the situation. He whined about it on social media, wore goofy socks to practice, and sat on the bench during the anthem when reasonable/rational people understand that’s not the appropriate time or place to mess around.

    His comments after that game said it all: “I will not stand and honor the flag of a country that oppresses black people.” It was as simple as that. Nothing complicated about his stance. It was your standard whiny millenial approach.

    Once the media and public caught on, they got rightfully outraged. Then people much smarter than Kaepernick came to his rescue and started putting words in his mouth. They started talking about this little-known 3rd verse that uses the word “slave,” and started adding rhetoric about how Kaepernick was brilliant because he’s trying to start a conversation.

    Sorry, no. The reality is that what he was doing, he was doing for himself as a disgruntled person.

    Here’s where I’ll flip it, though: At least he has been listening. At least he’s starting to understand that sitting on your butt away from your team and everyone else is a disrespectful, divisive, isolationist move. At least he’s attempting now to try to draw a line between showing disrespect for our service members/our country, and sending a message for a cause he supports.

    Even if I don’t believe for a second that any of this was his original intention.

  15. > I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to
    > the death your right to say it.

    I disapprove of your lack of courage to speak out only after you’ve become a backup, your lack of respect for blue lives by wearing those socks, and most of all your obvious lack of awareness where the majority of oppression is happening (10 dead in Chicago last week) … but I defend your right to believe in your nonsense.

  16. granadafan: so its “irrational” to blast BLM, a group that openly calls for the murder of police officers at their rallies? What you and the rest of these clowns don’t seem to get, is that insulting and offending people is not exactly the way to get your message across. As usual, respect is a one way street with far left wing race baiters. Its okay for them to insult and offend you, but they go berserk when someone does it to them. I am not interested in anything else you have to say when you begin the “conversation” by offending or insulting me. What part of that don’t you get?

  17. What position? I’ve detailed over and over again how and why Kaepernick is wrong. What he slightly has right. Why his idiotic racist position divides and conquers us, and this just makes everything a crapshow and nothing gets solved.

    It’s not racism, it’s policy.

    Policy enacted by many people, but for the 8 years it’s been policy enacted by Barrack Obama.

    So how is it white racism?

    Also inaction has been caused by Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder.

    So how is it white racism?

    If people of color are made at whitey for the actions of people of color, it makes them racist morons.

    Do I really need to list the dozen or so offenses that directly relate to creating this situation done by Obama, Holder, Lynch, and Hillary?

    It doesn’t matter if you’re African America, a woman… or what. You can still be a detached from reality psycho like they are.

    Blaming white racism is a joke. It’s Obama morons. I say that as a lifetime Democrat. But not one who sucks up to a Neo-Con madman with a bloodlust for killing.

  18. oddte: yea. hating your country and calling police officers murderers is so patriotic. If he was taking a “stand” in protest of abortion or illegal immigration would you still be calling him patriotic? I think we both know the answer to that question

  19. Wait a minute…this messes up the narrative for those who would have Kaep be a complete idiot in this story.

    Oh well, I guess the “liberal” media has to find *some* way to make Kaep look good, right ‘mericans?

  20. Mr. Nate Boyer, try as you may, you can’t fix, stupid, ungratefulness, or teach wisdom to a fool. He will have to learn the hard way.

  21. The foundation of reality here is that 7 sucks as a NFL QB. He should be cut by COB tomorrow.

    If he is not cut, the 49ers are more stupid than they appear, as he will surely soak them for an additional $14M. But then we get to watch Notepad stink up the joint more, so there is that entertainment value to consider. I’m ok either way.

  22. cobrala2 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 11:42 AM
    Compromise is only a bad word to the close-minded.
    _________________________________________

    Our nation needs these words. Problem is Useless Leader is about as diametrically opposed to compromise as a human can be.

  23. solo681 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 11:44 AM
    The serious issues with the ‘Police State’ and Hate that Oblama poisoned this nation with can only be resolved with the same rebellion that brought freedom in 1776 = Leadership based on ‘We the People’.

    Every “Oppressed” person who hates/disapproves of the Flag can have a FREE Ticket back to their country of origin and
    = DON”T COME BACK

    The USA Flag is a Our Symbol and it is the HIGHEST Symbolic Flag in the WORLD for FREEDOM.

    The past issues of slavery in this country are OVER PEOPLE – GET OVER IT and IMPROVE YOURSELF here or leave.

    More White US Citizen bloodshed was spilt on Our Land to FREE blacks then all the wars the US has fought in combined.

    I BELIEVE in the FREEDOM of “All men CREATED EQUAL by the CREATOR who shed His Blood for us on the Cross which He suffered for ALL of Mankind = Worldwide !!!
    __________

    I’m Donald Trump and I approved this message.

  24. Kapernick, the new poster child for slacktivism.

    Instead of using the tens of millions of dollars he has to further a cause, he’ll use a selfish, stage presence, do-nothing act.

  25. jmc8888 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 12:04 PM
    What position? I’ve detailed over and over again how and why Kaepernick is wrong. What he slightly has right. Why his idiotic racist position divides and conquers us, and this just makes everything a crapshow and nothing gets solved.

    It’s not racism, it’s policy.

    Policy enacted by many people, but for the 8 years it’s been policy enacted by Barrack Obama.

    So how is it white racism?

    Also inaction has been caused by Loretta Lynch and Eric Holder.

    So how is it white racism?

    If people of color are made at whitey for the actions of people of color, it makes them racist morons.

    Do I really need to list the dozen or so offenses that directly relate to creating this situation done by Obama, Holder, Lynch, and Hillary?

    It doesn’t matter if you’re African America, a woman… or what. You can still be a detached from reality psycho like they are.

    Blaming white racism is a joke. It’s Obama morons. I say that as a lifetime Democrat. But not one who sucks up to a Neo-Con madman with a bloodlust for killing.
    _________

    I’m Donald Trump and I approved this message too.

  26. Count me amoung those NOT impressed by Kapernick’s selfish, racist and disrespectful stance. I hope one of the white players cut this weekend hires an attorney and files a class action lawsuit against the NFL for violating EEO rules. How come 85% of these high-paying jobs go to one race? Where are the diversity police?

  27. OK so what this comes down to: We’re willing to listen to you Kaepernick, we just think it’s dumb what you’re cramming down our throats. Just because I listen doesn’t mean I will accept. Just because you have the right to do something doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to rebuke you for what you’re doing. The libs have run amok. What a disappointment.

  28. patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 11:24 AM
    It’s should be rather obvious that CK is genuinely trying to do something to improve the quality of life in this country. That is his goal. It’s astonishing to me that some have misconstrued his goal so badly…
    _________________

    It is astonishing to me that that you can not see that Kaepernick’s own words and inflammatory method has fostered this situation. Would the reaction to his sitting have been as strong had he chosen his words more carefully? Are we supposed to take words regarding people being oppressed seriously when they are being spoken by someone wearing a Castro shirt? Have a meaningful dialogue about community policing driven by a player that wears pig socks? It is not the the supposed (and worthy) stated goal that it is being misconstrued and resented but rather the legitimacy, method and credibility of the messenger.

  29. I’m old enough (sad to say) to remember Tommie Smith and John Carlos being vilified and pilloried for their demonstration during the national Anthem and flag raising.

    That image is now iconic and representative of major social change in that era. Once the backlash died down and the rhetorical platitudes subsided their message was heard and understood.

  30. Resistance to white supremacy is being confronted AGAIN on National TV and some people dont like it. The same type of neo cons who turned a blind eye to social issues during the 60s were angry about Tommie Smith “not staying in his place” at the Olympic Games in 68.

  31. I tend to be about as liberal minded as it gets. I rolled my eyes at the initial reaction from many that he had no business speaking about oppression when he has millions in the bank. It’s much easier to ignore the plight of others while only thinking of how great you have it. It takes balls to put that on the line and stand up for what you believe in.

    However, my concern is that I honestly don’t think he’s playing with a full deck. I’m not suggesting their issues are the same, but I get the same mentally unstable vibe from Kaep that I did from Josh Freeman during his epic fall from grace.

  32. It’s amazing what happens when people set aside their talking points and actually converse. We need more of that in this world, from both sides.

  33. patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 12:49 PM
    Jag1959
    doesn’t get it yet.
    ______________

    Rather I am afraid you did not ‘get’ my meaning. Your post stated you found it “astonishing… that some have misconstrued his goal so badly.” I simple endeavored to point out to you why that might be. I am all for a meaningful, intelligent and considered dialogue leading to effective and lasting change. Although I understand why you drew it, the analogy to Smith and Carlos rings hollow here

  34. Here’s some advice from a Canadian.

    Kap is bringing awareness and making people talk to one another about this.. That in the end, is one step better than we had before.

    Communication

  35. Fair enough jag1959. I agree his message was muddled initially. I think his post game presser clarified his position in a more accurate (but maybe not completely accurate yet) way. You do get it. I apologize. I stand by my comments about the ’68 Olympics however.

  36. Solo681 wrote: (phone is having copy and paste issues)

    The USA Flag is a Our Symbol and it is the HIGHEST Symbolic Flag in the WORLD for FREEDOM.

    I would argue that a lot of the world does not agree with that . Although I love my neighbours to the south, the flag represents sonething different to a lot of he rest of he world.

    I would argue that most of Europe including Great Britian and Scandinavia, Canada, Australia would argue that there is a lot more freedom in those countries. Especially the freedom to not be shot by people carrying guns or the police. I fear the US had a skewed version of how the rest of the world sees them . No doubt a great country and I love you , but I think freedom means different things to people.

  37. beefer49: yea all we’ve had is near endless, non-stop discussion about this issue for the last year. Now we need even more “awareness” from a privilege millionaire who wants to lecture us on police work and oppression.

  38. oddte: yea. hating your country and calling police officers murderers is so patriotic. If he was taking a “stand” in protest of abortion or illegal immigration would you still be calling him patriotic? I think we both know the answer to that question

    _________________

    Missed the part where he said he hated his country. It doesn’t strengthen your argument to put words in his mouth. Not sure what abortion has to do with anything but I don’t have a problem with people speaking up for what they believe in, whether I agree with them or not. No need to steady the ark.

  39. orangecrush78: Have you ever lived in any of those countries? Europe has their own problems now and is hardly in any position to be chastising the US. Go try living in SE Asia, the Middle East or Africa for awhile and then tell me how terrible the idea of freedom in the US is

  40. thermalito says:
    Sep 2, 2016 1:38 PM
    orangecrush78: Have you ever lived in any of those countries? Europe has their own problems now and is hardly in any position to be chastising the US. Go try living in SE Asia, the Middle East or Africa for awhile and then tell me how terrible the idea of freedom in the US is

    __________________________

    Irony: Glorying for those who fight for freedom while trying to silence those who exercise it.

  41. Have you guys ever thought that maybe a whole lot of people are frickin’ babies? The guy has a point of view. Big deal. Do you really need to cry about it? Get over yourselves.

  42. patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 1:33 PM
    Fair enough jag1959. I agree his message was muddled initially. I think his post game presser clarified his position in a more accurate (but maybe not completely accurate yet) way. You do get it. I apologize. I stand by my comments about the ’68 Olympics however.
    _____________

    I tip my cap to you for reconsidering your initial misconception and endeavoring to engage in the aforementioned meaningful, intelligent and considered dialogue. Thank you for ‘manning up’ and for the apology which I cheerfully accept. We can agree to disagree when it comes to Kaepernick not yet having earned being mentioned alongside Tommie Smith.

  43. Jag1959
    The analogy with the Olympics I drew was simply to illustrate how each demonstration was initially viewed. Time will tell if CK’s views become iconic (I doubt it). They may turn from pejorative to complimentary with time as happened with Smith and Carlos (I hope so).

  44. Ck, if you want to make a difference in this country, pick up a weapon and stand a post!!! You make millions of dollars playing a game that GI’s risk their lives and some gives their lives for $35,000 a year. There is a lot of problems in this country that need you be corrected but choosing the path that you are talking is setting a piss poor example for the youth who use to look up to you.

    There are ways to do things to get your message across, and this is not it. What do you say for all the killing in Chicago, or the dead beat dads that are having to be made to pay child support, or music that refer to Woman as h— and B——? Are you sitting down for that also? You do have a right of freedom of speech but you also have a right to move to another country if you are going to turn your back on your own and make millions doing it. Show some respect and dignity for the man and woman who have give their lives for this country and stop stereotyping all Law Enforcement personnel over isolated incidents. All Police Officers are not bad. You have good and bad in every profession in life. There are ways to fight for what you believe in and you are educated enough to know that Son.

  45. If a player decided to protest the national anthem because of abortion would he be called brave and courageous? Or does this logic only apply when youre championing left wing causes?

  46. My attitude about this has completely changed now that Kap is putting his money where he mouth is. A rich guy disrespecting the anthem accomplishes no more than had he “liked” an anti-discrimination post on Facebook. But personal sacrifice is completely different—and makes me far more willing to consider what he is saying.

    Also, Nate Boyer…love this guy.

  47. “Or does this logic only apply when youre championing left wing causes?”

    The NFL already answered that by allowing players to show support for some left wing lies while not allowing the Cowboys to honor Dallas police who were murdered.

  48. bryonneufeld says:
    Sep 2, 2016 11:26 AM
    I think people should carefully consider Kap’s position, but also feel free to bash him for it.

    No doubt black people in our country need to be treated better by small percentage of white people.

    But all ethnic and racial groups need to take it upon themselves to improve their lot. Asians are the highest earning ethnic group in this country, and yet surely they have been subject to discrimination at times too.

    Even the most oppressed groups in this country have it better than the majority of the rest of the world, and people need to remember that when they are sitting during our national anthem.
    ——–
    You’re setting the bar very low for non whites of the country…just sayin’ you should be “thankful to be here” is the equivalent of saying, you weren’t born white here, and I was, so be grateful you’re here even though you have an uphill battle because of your race. And of course you don’t believe there is such a thing as white privilege.

  49. patriotsticketssince1978 says:
    Sep 2, 2016 12:48 PM
    I’m old enough (sad to say) to remember Tommie Smith and John Carlos being vilified and pilloried for their demonstration during the national Anthem and flag raising.

    That image is now iconic and representative of major social change in that era. Once the backlash died down and the rhetorical platitudes subsided their message was heard and understood.
    ——-
    vilified they were, but Carlos and Smith were HEROES in every black community in america.

    That black power sign being seen around the world did more to expose america’s shortcomings Internationally than I can recall any other event in my lifetime. America was embarrassed on an International stage, and citizens that didn’t care about the plight of blacks were hopping mad at Carlos and Smith.

    Kind of like the same folks hopping mad at Kaep for pointing a finger to an issue that is constant open wound in american society – Racism. Why is it that the messenger always gets the blame for expressing or exposing what should be obvious? If whites had to endure the types of lives blacks do in america, the bigotry, the stereotyping, the hatred, THE LOOKS, whites would have something to be “hopping mad” about.

  50. I’m not surprised at the number of veterans who have come out and supported Kaepernick. After all, that’s what they risked their lives for. Most people knew from the beginning that he wasn’t disrespecting veterans. That’s just a much easier thing to talk about than what’s happening between police and black people.

  51. I guess I’m a little more convinced of his sincerity in his protest.
    I’m in no way more convinced of his intelligence in pursuing his end-game in this way.
    I still think he’s an idiot.
    But, I respect his sincerity as a simpleton.

  52. “All nfl owners are white with one arab. White supremacy must end now!!!!!”
    ________

    So, now we have to give black people free NFL franchises? When will it end?

    If they want a franchise, they should buy one. With their own money, not mine.

  53. tundey says:
    Sep 2, 2016 11:47 AM

    For those that disagreed with him sitting, think about this: he was wearing those socks for awhile and nobody noticed. You can effect change without making people uncomfortable. When Mohammed Ali died, everybody praised him to high heaven. And yet this is a guy that refused to serve in the military and was convicted for it. I bet these (some of the) same people praising him in death called him all sorts of names back then.
    ______________________
    Actually, Ali’s record is clean on refusing to serrve. His lower court conviction was appealed to the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS reversed the conviction holding that Ali was within his right to refuse to serve. Ali won.

  54. I find it hilarious that people get more upset at Colin for not standing than the real issue at hand. This site reminds me of FOX news. Instead of admitting there is a real issue you try to cover the issue with foolishness. I guess if you have never been discriminated against its not an issue to you. Things will never change because too many people dont want change. Colin should have stood for the Anthem but his reasoning was not wrong. He never once said anything bad about the military. so most people have been using that as the reason they are so upset because thats the easy way to sway your argument. nobody should have a problem with the military. The same patriotic people should fight for Vets who return from war and get treated like crap but i bet you aint doing that.

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