Goodell taps the brakes on Raiders leaving Oakland

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As talk heats up that the Raiders will leave Oakland and move to Las Vegas, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is sounding a more cautious note.

Sunday night in Minnesota, Goodell said the Vikings are the franchise he’d like to see other teams with difficult stadium situations to model. The Vikings worked with the local community to get a replacement for the Metrodome built, rather than leaving, and Goodell said he wouldn’t want to see the Raiders leave Oakland again, as they did once before for their stint in Los Angeles.

“Well, you never want to see a community lose their franchise once, much less twice. The Minnesota community did that in a great way. I think we can do it in Oakland. I think there’s a solution there, but it takes the community to help identify it,” Goodell said.

Of course, the NFL has allowed communities to lose franchises twice: St. Louis lost both the Cardinals and the Rams. So it wouldn’t be unprecedented for the Raiders to vacate Oakland twice. But Goodell said the recent authorization of a new stadium in Las Vegas isn’t enough to bring the Raiders to town.

“There’s still a lot that has to happen before we would get to that stage. Recognizing that they came out of committee with a bill, but there’s still a lot of work to be done to improve that recommendation,” Goodell said.

Raiders owner Mark Davis seems like he wants to move to Las Vegas, but he needs the permission of 23 of his fellow owners to do so. Goodell doesn’t sound so sure that the owners will go along with a move, at least not before more work is done.

77 responses to “Goodell taps the brakes on Raiders leaving Oakland

  1. Again…all he will care about is if it brings in more $.
    If it puts more bank in the owners pockets he could care less what is does to the people of Oakland.

  2. People cry about Vegas mainly because of stereotypes, but name one city in America that you cant gamble, drink, do drugs, party and pay for women. I’ll wait

  3. ” Goodell doesn’t sound so sure that the owners will go along with a move, at least not before more work is done.”

    And Goodell sounded like the Carson plan was the one for LA over the Inglewood plan. He will know his real opinion when it is given to him and that will only happen when the owners decide what help$ them out the mo$t.

  4. The Raiders don’t need anyone’s approval other than Mark Davis’ and everyone knows that, including Goodell.

    As for the idea working in Vegas, the Raiders have fans all over the world who would gladly make the trip to Vegas a couple of times a year.

    They are a global brand like the Cowboys and the Steelers. Teams like the Bronco’s, Bungals, Bills and others are strictly regional and wouldn’t stand a chance.

  5. “Raiders owner Mark Davis seems like he wants to move to Las Vegas, but he needs the permission of 23 of his fellow owners to do so.”

    His father would have disagreed with you. He may as well.

  6. It’s all posturing. Goodell is playing nice for the city of Oakland and it’s fans before they pack up and leave. No way the owners will turn down $750 million of free public money if it get’s approved by the Nevada governor.

  7. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Sep 19, 2016 8:59 AM

    They are irrelevant no matter where they play

    ___________________________

    Just like you in life, you’re irrelevant. They are so irrelevant you have to comment on every article they are in. You’re a sad human being, pathetic

  8. Like I’ve been saying all along.
    Its been fun listening to all the experts tell me how a 600k pop will out draw a 7 million population.

    There is a reason there is no pro sports franchise in Vegas.

  9. “….They are a global brand like the Cowboys and the Steelers.”

    ……you live in a state of denial as well as in a city with a football team full of rejects from a real football league……

  10. >“Raiders owner Mark Davis seems like he wants to move to Las Vegas, but he needs the permission of 23 of his fellow owners to do so.”

    >His father would have disagreed with you. He may as well.

    Yea, this. The NFL’s “approval process” is a sham that would not stand up in court today any better than it did 34 years ago.

  11. The league wants us in OAK where we belong. Sorry Team Schadenfreude. That much has been apparent from the start, but you hate it.

    Its happening in 510. It will just take a bit more time and some Christmas cards from a guy like Larry Ellison.

  12. wrossi81 says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:10 AM
    “Raiders owner Mark Davis seems like he wants to move to Las Vegas, but he needs the permission of 23 of his fellow owners to do so.”

    His father would have disagreed with you. He may as well.

    ____________________________________

    As a beyond avid Raider fan of 40 years, I believe Al Davis paid the price for that victory in court. Raider games have been where officials invent calls ever since Al and the NFL locked horns.

  13. I think we can do it in Oakland. I think there’s a solution there, but it takes the community to help identify it,” Goodell said.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Roger, the solution is that the city of Oakland deeds the land adjacent to the Coliseum. That is the extent of “public assistance” available. Raiders and the NFL will have to pony up the cost of the stadium itself, roads, and improvements.

    With the $500 M the NFL is willing to invest, that sounds like a 35-50 K seat stadium. Make it so.

  14. Ok, Goodell, and what if they move anyway.

    Are you going to fine the team a million dollars and strip them of a 1st and 4th round pick?

    Knowing him, he would do that and THEN suspend Brady for 4 games…lol.

  15. The bottom line is Davis is not one of the “chosen” owners, if he was this would be a done deal. Goodell’s puppeteer Jerrah Jones has pretty much said that a Vegas team needs to be owned by a person who will know how to get the most out of the market, and I’m pretty sure the league doesn’t view Mark that way. I would love to ask the people of St. Louis if they believe the “never want to see a community lose” line.

  16. The league makes billions every year off its normal operations.

    Now it makes billions more from its shadow ownership of the daily fantasy gambling sites.

    They make more money from shadow ownership of stubhub type agencies that they sell blocks of season tickets to so they can then be resold at double to quadruple face value.

    Where will the greed end?

    No city or state should ever give the league a single dime towards their buildings again. Ever.

  17. He is so full of crap, he is the prefect politician the owners were looking for to be commissioner….he cares nothing about communities, all he cares about is getting subsidies to pay for stadiums that are owned by the billionaires who hired him….this is a shake down of the Oakland community and nothing less, give us the deal we want for a stadium and we won’t rip the team from you….If Las Vegas was a more profitable option for the league they would be there already, because its not they will use it to leverage what they want from Oakland….Hey Oakland community, you’re about to get fleeced……

  18. Sorry Roger. Taxpayers in California are not going to give hundreds of millions of dollars to billionaires in order to provide the community with a few hundred minimum wage jobs. Not in Oakland, not in San Diego, not anywhere where people have half a brain. Yes, I’m talking to you Minnesota.

  19. If his bosses, a.k.a. the owners, say its OK to move, Goodell will fall in line and say it’s OK to move. Case closed.

    If it brings in more money, everyone will be happy.

  20. What the dictator wants he gets……

    Oakland will not going anywhere soon…..

    Much less Vegas….

  21. Let the owners build their own stadiums. If the owners can’t or won’t build the stadium themselves then they should sell to someone who will. Make that a requirement for further franchise sales. The willingness to be able to pay your own bills.

    I live in L.A. and I’m from Miami. Unfortunately I’m a dolphin fan with a crap team and owner. After they tried to shoehorn the public into paying for stadium renovations and it failed (I really loved how Ross threatened the political career of the guy who wouldn’t bring it up for a vote) the billionaire ended up paying for it anyway. The way it should be.

    If he didn’t pay, I wouldn’t have cared one bit because the biggest difference to me watching games on tv in south florida as opposed to bootlegging them off the internet and watching them in LA is the start of kickoff. I wouldn’t ever pay the money they want me to pay to attend a terrible game by a bad franchise. Deal with traffic. Pay a ripoff parking fee. Then get price gouged for refreshments. No thanks. I have better beer/food in my living room.

    I love football, but everyday the list of things I hate about the NFL just keeps getting bigger. (I didn’t even watch the Dolphins yesterday and I still got to wake up this morning disappointed. )

  22. Lip service. Cleveland has also lost its franchise twice – first the Rams, then the original Browns. LA has lost 2 franchises.

    I’ve said it a lot, and I know many agree: To impose taxes on citizens for the purpose of building anything other than a road or the roster of first responders is not a legitimate government function. Stop it.

  23. As a minnesotan, I assure you it wasn’t done in a good way. The legislature shot it down, Goodell came in and strong armed them with the threat of moving the team, they circumvented the law by not putting it on the ballot, the initial funding source fell through triggering a back up plan to increase tobacco taxes, and a man died during construction.
    I’m happy it was built, but to say it was done right is a complete lie.

  24. Vegas is the new Los Angeles. He’s using it as leverage to get cities to cough up dough to pay for a new stadium. Next thing you’ll hear is Chargers possibly moving to Vegas.

  25. The big question is where will Mark Davis get the 500 million he has promised. Part of that money is what the NFL promised for a stadium in OAKLAND not Las Vegas. Also where will he get the relocation fee of around 500 million. If he can afford a billion dollars to move then he should put that money up to STAY in Oakland. So far I have never heard of that offer.

  26. The Raiders are handcuffed by a local government that can’t even hold a meeting on the topic, let alone generate a billion dollars. Hey Roger, tell us how this is going to work.

    “not anywhere where people have half a brain”

    Are you suggesting the leftists in California have half a brain? There are a lot of us who would disagree.

  27. Why when “Reporters” have Goodell don’t they ask about PSI data or why the colts balls were below the legal limit or why was Brady charged for PED’S instead of a trumped up equipment violation at the most or why Josh brown is kicking for the Maras or the meaning of Integrity…something anything except allowing him to lie, deflect and obfuscate.

  28. Something to consider is that Goodell is a mouthpiece for the 32 owners and in this particular instance, 31 of them.

    If there’s trepidation for a move to Vegas it’s from the other owners. Goodell can’t
    veto or give his stamp of approval even if there is a farce of a process for him to do so and feel important.

    Why then is he making these comments? If a move does get approved sooner rather than later, only his comments look stupid even if he’s just echoing 31 owner’s sentiments.

    We chastised Chris Carter awhile back for his comments about needing a “fall guy” that’s exactly what Goodell is. The only problem with that is the NFL lets their fall guy occasionally think for himself and.. well.. we’ve all seen how that’s working out.

  29. unclebluck says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:37 AM
    “….They are a global brand like the Cowboys and the Steelers.”

    ……you live in a state of denial as well as in a city with a football team full of rejects from a real football league……
    ______________________
    Do you see any Bills jerseys when you leave Buffalo to travel to another country?

    Absolutely not, but you see Raiders, Cowboys and Steelers jerseys.

    Do you even get out of Buffalo?

    Wide right, you lose again.

  30. I just love that they still play on baseball infield in September. Please don’t move and take that tradition away.

  31. The state of California really can’t handle another NFL fleecing. If Goodell and the owners want two Bay Area franchises, they should foot the bill for another stadium.

  32. Remember when he “suggested” that the Bills need a new stadium?

    I wonder when the groundbreaking will be.

  33. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    Sep 19, 2016 8:59 AM
    They are irrelevant no matter where they play
    ————————–

    Irrelevant as compared to what? I mean… Your only relevance in the entire world is “that guy who is first to troll a Raiders post” – pantherpro, “humbolt” – we get it: you hate the Raiders. But you know… go for it man! I understand: set attainable goals. But you gotta get better at this or you might vanish off the face of the earth and then what happens to our standard for relevance? You chose to make your mark by being the digital version of that guy who draws naked people on bathroom stall walls… But please tell us there’s more.

  34. The Raiders are indeed a global brand. Like McDonalds, the National Enquirer, Amway, Enron, etc..

  35. razzzmajazzz says:
    Sep 19, 2016 10:38 AM
    Roger The Great got his LA team so now nobody can move.
    ————
    Wait… Do you think Roger Goodell owns the NFL? Or that he’s the boss of it? He’s a mouthpiece – nothing more.

  36. Maybe Goodell should tell them to follow the 49ers, Dolphins, and Rams method: PAYING FOR YOUR OWN STADIUM.

    In Las Vegas, the Wynn mega casino cost around $2 billion, all paid for in private money. Casinos are open 24/7 and bring in tons of revenue daily in gamblers, hotel guests, shoppers, conventions, and sports events. Casinos employ full time workers. A stadium will sit empty the vast majority of the year, hire mainly minimum wage workers PART TIME, and not generate as much revenue.

    Even before the stadium is even close to being paid off, the team will demand renovations and threaten to move. So, why should the public/ visitors pay for the lavish palace of a billionaire in a league worth tens of billions?

  37. As long as they lose to the Falcons, I don’t think Vegas even wants them. Weren’t they supposed to win the AFC West this year?

  38. pooflingingmonkey says:
    Sep 19, 2016 11:37 AM

    The Raiders are indeed a global brand. Like McDonalds, the National Enquirer, Amway, Enron, etc..
    ——————————————–
    I’m not sure you understand the term “Global Brand.”

  39. Why am I still watching a team play on the infield of a baseball stadium? This should’ve been fixed years ago.

  40. The Raiders will move to Vegas. The stadium will sell out every week. Even fans of NFC teams will look forward to a guaranteed game every eight years in Vegas (6 for AFC North, South and East teams, and every year for Broncos, Chargers and Chiefs fans) $$$ talks, right Roger? Just move, baby!

  41. “Well, you never want to see a community lose their franchise once, much less twice. The Minnesota community did that in a great way. I think we can do it in Oakland. I think there’s a solution there, but it takes the community to help identify it,” Goodell said.
    —————————————————————-
    Goodell is incapable of saying what he really means. Deflategate was easily explained as a bunch of owners demanding a frame job to bring the Patriots back to the pack but Goodell throws out “integrity” which of course the irony just drips off. He should have just said if Oakland wants to keep the Raiders then the populace is going to have to hand over a couple billion dollars and build a new stadium. I hope Oakland residents tell him and the league to go pound sand. When the Raiders fail epically in Vegas they’ll come crawling back to their true fans by the bay.

  42. A lot of people worry about the stadium not being full every week, but honestly shouldn’t, it may not be full of Raider fans, but it would be full. Vegas is the ultimate destination road game for a fan, flights to Vegas are cheaper than flights to anywhere else in the country, and you can use catching a game as an excuse to spend a weekend in Vegas, sign me up for any 49er game taking place there, and I know fans of other teams who feel the same.

  43. joetoronto says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:10 AM
    The Raiders don’t need anyone’s approval other than Mark Davis’ and everyone knows that, including Goodell.

    As for the idea working in Vegas, the Raiders have fans all over the world who would gladly make the trip to Vegas a couple of times a year.

    They are a global brand like the Cowboys and the Steelers. Teams like the Bronco’s, Bungals, Bills and others are strictly regional and wouldn’t stand a chance.
    ————-
    That’s pretty ignorant, but considering the source I don’t think anyone’s surprised. If you’ve ever seen a map of nfl fandom, you’d realize how incredibly stupid that post is. Oh, and it’s pretty weak that you have to switch usernames to go back and reply to someone else’s reply to your post. You’re a serious low life.

  44. thing is goodell doesnt have much say in the matter.. he is doing the PR move to make Oakland feel like it has some support in the NFL up until the moment they leave

    reality raider apply for relocation, the owners vote up or down, which from the LA fiasco seems to hinge greatly on the venue being built and viability of the market (which i would think LV is great for both) even then the owner can flip the other owners of and move regardless, with possible financial penalties

  45. Let’s see, a shiny new stadium in Sin City OR continue to play on a baseball diamond with raw sewage running through the corridors.

    Decisions, decisions. MD already has one foot out the door no matter what Goodell says.

  46. WOAH, WOAH, since when has the NFL ever cared about the community???? The Rams moving was about Money. The NFL used the Rams as their puppet, from the media games to accelerate the moving process, to drafting Michael Sam and trading up to 1 overall .. don’t tell me it’s about the community

  47. Solution: Send the Raiders to London and then don’t schedule any games for them. Eventually, they will get the hint.
    ___________________________________
    The Raiders would thrive in Mexico City. Largely, their fan base is hispanics. I assure you, they would well there.

  48. While my personal opinion is that Oakland is a better market than Las Vegas there is no way the owners will turn down $750 mill when Oakland taxpayers won’t even give them a nickel.

  49. There is no way Oakland is going to cough up $500 million like Minnesota did for the Vikings. Oakland’s motto of “zero dollars and zero cents” is going to make the Raiders move. Las Vegas is where the money is, with Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn being on board. Hopefully 2016 is the Raiders last season in Oakland. Super Bowls in Las Vegas will be off the charts!!!!!

    MOVE TO LAS VEGAS!!!!!!!!!

  50. Mark Davis has committed $500 million to the Las Vegas stadium. That is where they will be moving to. Las Vegas mayor Carolyn Goodman is very confident about getting the Raiders.

  51. JSpicoli says:
    Sep 19, 2016 9:36 AM
    Like I’ve been saying all along.
    Its been fun listening to all the experts tell me how a 600k pop will out draw a 7 million population.

    There is a reason there is no pro sports franchise in Vegas.

    Clark County (which is the whole valley including Las Vegas) Has a population over 2.2 million.

  52. The Raiders move is also a money issue. The Bay Area is one of the biggest TV markets in the country. Vegas is much smaller. The TV contracts would be worth more to the NFL if the team stays in Oakland or move to LA instea of moving to Las Vegas. During a recession, Vegas loses a lot of visitors, and the local economy tanks because it depends on tourist dollars. That means attendance can be drastically reduced during a recession also. Vegas was one of the hardest hit places in the country during the foreclosure crisis.

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