Colin Kaepernick has received death threats, which he says proves point

AP

Colin Kaepernick has been sitting or kneeling for the national anthem all season, to protest the lack of racial equality and unfair treatment of minorities by law enforcement.

And on a day when he was asked about the shooting of another unarmed black man by police, the 49ers quarterback casually mentioned that he had gotten death threats since making his stance public.

I’ve had a few come my way, but not too concerned about it,” Kaepernick said, via Cam Inman of the San Jose Mercury News.

When asked if they were isolated to social media, Kaepernick said “couple different avenues,” and said he hadn’t reported them to the team.

“To me, if something like that were to happen, you’ve proved my point and it will be loud and clear for everyone why it happened, and that would move this movement forward at a greater speed than what it is even now,” he said. “Granted, it’s not how I want it to happen, but that’s the realization of what could happen. I knew there were other things that came along with this when I first stood up and spoke about it. It’s not something I haven’t thought about.”

Kaepernick referred to Friday’s shooting to Terrence Crutcher in Tulsa, Oklahoma as “a perfect example” of the point he’s trying to make.

He’s quickly become a lightning rod for national conversation, and has promised to donate $1 million to support communities. He said Tuesday he’s working on plans for monthly donations of $100,000, and will set up a website to document the distribution of that money for the purpose of accountability. He also talked about the reception he got at his first regular season road game Sunday in Charlotte.

“It’s something they either don’t care about it or they don’t understand it, which i find it very hard that people don’t understand what’s going on,” Kaepernick said. “I think the message has been out there loud and clear for quite some time now.

“There’s a lot of racism disguised as patriotism in this country and people don’t like to address that and they don’t like to address what the root of this protest is. You have players across this country, not only in the NFL but soccer and NBA and high school players, they don’t like to address this issue that people of color are oppressed and treated unjustly. I don’t know why that is or what they’re scared of, but it needs to be addressed.”

Kaepernick clearly isn’t going to stop addressing it, no matter the cost to him, professionally or otherwise.

218 responses to “Colin Kaepernick has received death threats, which he says proves point

  1. He is right majority of people have no clue. as a vet I find it way more offensive that the Minnesota Vikings girl was filmed onlive tv saluting. First off you do not salute unless you are in uniform and have your cover on. Second her salute was absolutely terrible no form at all.

  2. No, Colin, many people understand and support your message, but are offended by the way that you are choosing to bring attention to it.

  3. Colin, when someone makes a death threat, you take it seriously. There are a lot of angry people in this country, and while the vast majority aren’t likely to harm you, it’s stupid to take a chance that one won’t.

  4. Some people claim to be so concerned with “black on black” crime, yet threaten to kill this guy for exercising his right to free speech and protest. They think that just because he’s made a little money playing football, he should just shut up and be a “good, happy” black man. And all the other blacks should just shut up too. Or else, they’ll get their lives threatened.

  5. The 49ers should just start him. His teammates clearly like him, they show his teammates giving him hugs and props on the bench. He’d give the team a huge spark. I dont think anyone would say Gabbert is better than Kaepernick with a straight face, especially not how he played vs the Panthers. Put Kaep in the game. Any dislikes on this comment are just haters. In no world is Gabbert better than Colin Kaepernick. 2 NFC Championship games, a field goal away from a Super Bowl. Come on Chip.

  6. For the football fans on here that are going to talk smack about Kaep and totally ignore his plight, I feel bad for you. The footage of the Terrance Crutcher MURDER is nothing new..these white cops will get away with MURDER as they always do and you, White America, will continue to turn your eyes away from the truth, and for that I feel sorry for you.

  7. I’m sure He has…..
    One thing we know about wingers.
    1) They are full of fear.
    2) And full of threats.

    Can’t wait until all of them stop watching football.
    It sounds like a slice of Heaven.

  8. BTW, I don’t understand all the clamor that it’s a “first amendment right” for players to take a knee during the national anthem. If Kaepernick attends a baseball game on his day off, that’s certainly his right. However, on Sunday afternoons (or whenever), he is “on the clock”, as it were. I believe it would be entirely within the rights of the NFL owner to say “I don’t want my employees behaving disrespectfully during the national anthem”. Colin and his compatriots can feel fortunate that that stance hasn’t been publicly expressed/enforced so far.

  9. Donal Trump receives multiple death threats everyday. I guess he thinks Trump is correct on everything too right?
    Simpleton logic.

  10. Not reporting it to the team? Seems like further indication of a me-first attitude. If he’s at risk, that puts his teammates at risk, but he’d rather keep it to himself than take that step to help insure his teammates’ safety?

    So to date, he’s done nothing that has earned him one cent of fines, and kept a security threat to himself that could otherwise put him on a hotter seat with team security issues.

    Getting paid millions, not putting your livelihood at the slightest risk, and disregarding the safety of your teammates. Now that sounds like an effective form of protest!

    Next up: donating a whopping 9% of his salary to this urgent and significant cause.

    I call faker.

  11. Irresponsible Authority by people who hold power granted to them by the government is a major problem. It allows for individuals to the use the power of the government to discriminate against people for many reasons, accidentally or intentionally, often leaving the victims without recourse because of the poor design of the system. It empowers racism, but it’s so bad it even goes beyond race.

  12. He is right majority of people have no clue. as a vet I find it way more offensive that the Minnesota Vikings girl was filmed onlive tv saluting. First off you do not salute unless you are in uniform and have your cover on. Second her salute was absolutely terrible no form at all.

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    Shaddup stupid.hmm a chick saluting or a guy passing on the country with baseless claims hmmmm

  13. Kap will forever be in History books for all of our kids, grandkids, and great grand kids to read about. He is our Muhamad Ali.

    keep it up kap, you’re very important in american history now.

    And we all must admit it.

  14. Remember when those cops lied and said they couldn’t see their latest murder victim’s hands, when he clearly had his hands in the air?

    You folks that hate Kaepernick, his message and/or his method of delivery, look more and more anti-American every day.

  15. This untradeable roster anchor is just trying to force a cut and likely an employment lawsuit. BLM should feel insulted at getting exploited by the Rachel Dolezal of QBs.

  16. Proves his point that his “gesture” is lame….. but.. I think his intellect level is too low to comprehend that small little tidbit….. good luck wash out… your NFL days are just about over… then, let’s see if anyone cares if you kneel during your shift at the local 7-11…

  17. For the football fans on here that are going to talk smack about Kaep and totally ignore his plight, I feel bad for you. The footage of the Terrance Crutcher MURDER is nothing new..these white cops will get away with MURDER as they always do and you, White America, will continue to turn your eyes away from the truth, and for that I feel sorry for you.
    ——————–

    Black America robs, murders and rapes and bullies alot more of white America than the other way around. Half

  18. In this metaphor the “NFL” is the “Government”, and Roger Goodell is the individual abusing and exercising the Irresponsible Authority, causing others too suffer. The poor design of the system allows this to continue to happen. Leaving the victims without any true recourse.

  19. mmack66 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:05 PM
    Remember when those cops lied and said they couldn’t see their latest murder victim’s hands, when he clearly had his hands in the air?

    You folks that hate Kaepernick, his message and/or his method of delivery, look more and more anti-American every day.

    ===========

    You’re exactly right about the outrage of that shooting, but I can’t for the life of me figure out how this is “his message”. He’s really late to the party of people sharing this message, and he’s putting less on the line than any of them.

  20. “Colin needs to go on a ride-a-long with some beat cops making $35,000 a year in Oakland.”

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    What, in 1975? You have a time machine?

    The average ENTRY LEVEL salary for an Oakland cop in 2016 ranges from a low of about $69,000 to a high of around $98,000 per year. Why don’t you just keep making up fictions and claiming they’re fact, and then claim these lies somehow prove your point when they wouldn’t even if they were true. That’s some real Donald Trump garbage and it’s telling that you got so many people to agree with your lie.

  21. Celebrities claim they get “death threats” all the time. And then when you actually look at the comments in question, they are not “threats” at all. It’s usually something along the lines of “I hope you fall off a cliff and die”…

    While those moments may be disturbing, it’s also very different than an actual “death threat”. So, I’d like to see the actual “threats” he received. and if he really got them, has he turned them over to the police?

  22. So you either agree with Colin or you’re disguising your racism as Patriotism? Doesn’t leave much room for the possibility that he’s wrong.

  23. ctiggs says:
    Sep 20, 2016 4:52 PM

    He is right majority of people have no clue. as a vet I find it way more offensive that the Minnesota Vikings girl was filmed onlive tv saluting. First off you do not salute unless you are in uniform and have your cover on. Second her salute was absolutely terrible no form at all.
    ———————
    I thought not saluting unless you have a sidearm was strictly a Marine thing?

    Anyway — a few years back Sarah Palin violated the flag code by draping the flag over a chair (re: her photo on the cover of Runner’s World). None of the right-wingers batted an eye. These patriotic rules only apply when they are violated by people the right-wingers don’t like.

    And Kap is correct. This is a serious problem and it needs to be addressed. Asking people to choose between supporting the police and supporting civil rights is a false choice. The police can stop profiling based on race and still do their jobs effectively. The bigger issue requires a change in culture, and that discussion won’t happen unless people stop ignoring the issue. Kap keeps pushing it back into everyone’s face, and that’s a good thing.

  24. Funny cause the biggest threat to black people is themselves. He is getting death threats because the way he chooses to protest angers alot of people. Its not because his opinion on social injustice. Just goes to show he isn’t very smart.

  25. “Donal Trump receives multiple death threats everyday. I guess he thinks Trump is correct on everything too right?
    Simpleton logic.”

    ——

    Thanks for your fine example of unintended Simpleton logic.

  26. sportmigos says:
    Sep 20, 2016 4:48 PM

    smh guess he doesn’t think police ever get death threats
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    And why should someone who is against the cops murdering blacks empathize with the cops?
    And what proof do you have of cops getting death threats?

  27. Ya but everyday there are more blacks attacking and killing other minorities. Why is it every policies shooting you look into its a gang banger or sex offenders or a dude who was arrested multiple times? Why is it never an upstanding citizen ? Lololol. Maybe thats-why people don’t care? Look at the scumbag who killed the 2 nun nurses, he shouldn’t of been on the streets

  28. I watched the Terence Crutcher video. The moron didnt end up dead because he was black, he ended up dead because the genius kept walking towards his car as if to get something, while the cops were telling him to not move. Who does that?? Darwinism at its most obvious.

  29. For the football fans on here that are going to talk smack about Kaep and totally ignore his plight, I feel bad for you. The footage of the Terrance Crutcher MURDER is nothing new..these white cops will get away with MURDER as they always do and you, White America, will continue to turn your eyes away from the truth, and for that I feel sorry for you.
    —–

    The footage of this man proves the other side as well. Article headlines read: “Unarmed Man with hands in the air gets shot and killed”

    When I watch the video, it’s true the man initially has his hands in the air, but he seems to ignore police orders and continues to walk to his car, and it appears he reaches into and towards his pockets for at least 2 or 3 seconds before he was shot.

    The correct response to this video would be: I’m not sure exactly what happens. It’s not 100% clear from the video.

    Those who have an agenda write and say things like “Unarmed black man with hands in the air gets shot and killed”. Why not let all the facts out before you judge? What’s wrong with waiting for facts before you get outraged? If it was unjustified, let the cop get prosecuted. If he disobeyed orders and reached in his pocket, then that is reasonable cause for police… doesn’t matter what his skin color is. Waiting for facts isn’t asking too much… but apparently maybe it is.

  30. His reason for not standing is that he has an issue with the police. Did the POLICE send him those threats? If they did, that would prove his point.

    I am going to guess they are the ones that will continue to protect him against those very threats.

    There are SO MANY better ways for him to use his celebrity to bring change to the “problem”. But to be quite honest, kneeling for the anthem is much easier for his lazy ass.

  31. vicnocal says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:13 PM
    I watched the Terence Crutcher video. The moron didnt end up dead because he was black, he ended up dead because the genius kept walking towards his car as if to get something, while the cops were telling him to not move. Who does that?? Darwinism at its most obvious.
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    You are part of the problem. You and this mindset.

  32. “I think it has more to do with him stealing money from the 9ers than looking like an ISIS sympathizer.”

    Conservative logic: If you protest the cops killing unarmed people by kneeling during the anthem, YOU MUST LOVE ISIS!

    This explains why trump is your nominee.

  33. Oh well big boy…..you made your bed now time to lay in it. Don’t use your mouth to write a check that your *** can’t cash. Maybe you should ask the police for protection??? Sure that will go over real well for you.

  34. You’re still an ignorant puppet. You’re still full of . . . and oh yeah btw, you still suck at football.

  35. Shaddup stupid.hmm a chick saluting or a guy passing on the country with baseless claims hmmmm

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    How eloquent. You must be very proud of your lack of education. Most people would be ashamed.

  36. ctiggs says:
    Sep 20, 2016 4:52 PM

    He is right majority of people have no clue. as a vet I find it way more offensive that the Minnesota Vikings girl was filmed onlive tv saluting. First off you do not salute unless you are in uniform and have your cover on. Second her salute was absolutely terrible no form at all.

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    So, are you offended when the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts salute the flag?

    I myself have served in the military and I thought it was pretty cool to see her salute the flag (she needs to work on her salute, I’ll give you that) and be patriotic!

  37. Kap is right – whether he’s a starter or not.

    Police brutality in black communities is outrageous and out of control.

  38. The proof of his commitment will be WHERE this money goes. Does it, in fact, go to organizations that are working toward solutions to help the black communities help themselves or does it go organizations that only exist to foment division, hatred, and racism?

  39. vicnocal says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:13 PM

    I watched the Terence Crutcher video. The moron didnt end up dead because he was black, he ended up dead because the genius kept walking towards his car as if to get something, while the cops were telling him to not move. Who does that?? Darwinism at its most obvious.
    ———————————-

    Walking towards a car, with hands in the air justifies the use of deadly force? Good grief. They tasered the guy then immediately shot him.

  40. nowtherearesomanybunnies says:

    How eloquent. You must be very proud of your lack of education. Most people would be ashamed.

    ——‘-”———

    Ya man I failed my class: how to type on an iPhone that’s too small for my hands on a screen that’s messed up. Shaddup stupid no. 2

  41. I think Kaep is a turd, but when “sundog05” says: “Colin needs to go on a ride-a-long with some beat cops making $35,000 a year in Oakland.”, he loses all credibility. They average $91,500 a year in Oakland. This is why “discourse” is overrated. On one side, stooges like Kaepernick. And sundogs on the other. And neither has any grasp of objective fact.

  42. Kap is right – whether he’s a starter or not.

    Police brutality in black communities is outrageous and out of control.

    1 0
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    Thats the point. He’s not. More whites are killed by cops. And crime is higher in black communities. That’s amother issue tho. Also it doesn’t help when blacks are killing cops at a record pace

  43. Lol would wanna be a cop nowadays anyway? Blacks are shooting cops at a record rate and wondering they get shot when they don’t comply or have guns on them? Lololol my word. Look up police brutality in Nigeria lolololoo

  44. Has Colin ever met his biological father, you know, after his biological mother dumped him off on a family who didn’t see race…

  45. So, if a white athlete refuses to stand during the National Anthem to protest, say, illegal immigration, he WON’T get ANY death threats?

    That is the only way you could prove it was racism.

  46. If Colin Kaepernick is so sincere about his cause why doesn’t he go to the Chicago neighborhoods, East St. Louis, Gary Indiana neighborhoods etc, etc, etc and see how serious Blacks killing Blacks are and make some strides towards that. Try being a cop and go on a call or stop someone in traffic and have the rap sheet read about priors (arrests) and that person has 50 or 60 arrests and see how cool you are when you have to deal with that person or persons. It’s easy to talk trash when you don’t deal with the real problem and have little or no facts and you aren’t in a policeman’s shoes-and yes I’m black………………..

  47. rjbell4 says:

    I believe it would be entirely within the rights of the NFL owner to say “I don’t want my employees behaving disrespectfully during the national anthem”.
    ————–

    And you would be incorrect. The NFLPA contract with the owners does not specifically require the players to stand during the anthem. Taking action against a player for refusing to stand during the national anthem would be a contract violation.

    But here is the other big question. Is talking about “respecting the flag” just a distraction to keep people from paying attention to how Wells Fargo just got busted in one of the largest fraud cases in history? Is it more important that talking about how retail companies like Walmart and Target now employee more people than GM or Ford, and how that change impacts our overall standard of living?

    Ever get the feeling you’re being had?

  48. Black America robs, murders and rapes and bullies alot more of white America than the other way around. Half

    I never understand the people who respond to demands that the police stop behaving lawlessly by pointing out that the black community has a high crime rate.

    What’s the argument: black criminals are committing crimes, so white cops should get to, too?

  49. whysomanylosers says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:16 PM

    There are SO MANY better ways for him to use his celebrity to bring change to the “problem”. But to be quite honest, kneeling for the anthem is much easier for his lazy ass.
    —————————————————————————-
    You didn’t read the article where he is going to start donating money, a lot of money, towards organizations to try and solve these types of problems.

    So what are you doing about this problem yourself?

    Typing at it in the comfort of your home, office or cubicle is much easier for your lazy ass.

  50. The KKK is all around us. They don’t all wear white sheets. Now they can hide behind a computer. They’re not man enough to come out of hiding, but they’re there.

  51. “”Also it doesn’t help when blacks are killing cops at a record pace”

    Fake statistic.

    Crime rates are down across the board, and that’s been the general trend for a couple decades.

  52. sterling7 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:25 PM

    If Colin Kaepernick is so sincere about his cause why doesn’t he go to the Chicago neighborhoods, East St. Louis, Gary Indiana neighborhoods etc, etc, etc and see how serious Blacks killing Blacks are and make some strides towards that.
    ——————————————————————————–
    Are you yourself concerned about blacks killing blacks?
    If you are not, then you have no right to bring this up as a way to be what Kapeernick is against.
    If you are, then what are you doing about it?

  53. You can’t judge an entire country, or an entire race, based on what a small portion is doing. Is there racism? Sure. It’s not just whites, though, and Kap needs to understand that. He’s only seeing one side of the situation.

  54. The funny thing in all this is that, his black father abandoned him when he was a baby, and then his white mother put him up for an adoption where he was adopted and raised by a white couple.

    He is more privileged than my white butt.

    Oh, and when he first sat for this “social injustice”, he made no announcement of it…… It wasn’t reported as that until after the fact when people started questioning his motives after doing it several times. Sounds more like he used it as a cop out than anything.

  55. So let me get this straight. I can ask Jesus to forgive me of my sins while on my knees. I mean I can gain eternal life through forgiveness obtained by praying on my knees but cannot take a knee during the National Anthem? So the flag trumps God?

  56. kmartin173 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:08 PM
    Yes Colin, its cops who are the number one killer of black males ages 18-34.

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    You must get your “facts” and reason at the same Walmart Kaepernick does. The reality, is that black males ages 18-34 are the number one killers of black males ages 18-34, whether by homicide or suicide by “death by cop” due to stupidity such as resisting LE while in possession of a firearm.

  57. I suggest that Kaep take a stroll at about three AM on a Saturday night through about 30 blocks of South Chicago alone and get back to us on how it goes.

  58. Kap’s assessment is bullcrap, the only point to proves is that some people are upset with him and his method, and his disrespectful socks, ~provided~ his allegation(s) are even true as opposed to being another means to his personal agenda. It has nothing to do with him suddenly feeling black and oppressed.

  59. What makes America great (and it IS great, no one needs to make it great again) is Freedom of Speech.

    Well, unless you say something I don’t like.

  60. Death threats prove nothing. Is there anyone, even the most avowed racist, who actually denies racism still isn’t prevalent in the U.S., as it is around the world? That’s not the point. The point is Kaepernick’s tactics in protesting it. The pig socks, attempting to equate the intense training in police academies to cosmetology school, accusing cops of murder in justifiable shootings, conveniently ignoring the far more rampant black on black crime, and of course, the disrespect to our flag, a symbol of what ‘s honorable and just, and of how things should be. His and his followers’ ignorance and refusal to acknowledge black culpability is shameful and hypocritical.
    He has started a dialogue. Let it continue.
    Time to get off the ground and stand with your hand over your heart when that Anthem plays, Colin. It stands for what you want, and what America should be and should not be disrespected for those lofty aspirations.

  61. He’s absolutely correct its racism disguised as patriotism and the comments up here prove his point. I can say Save The Whales that doesn’t mean I don’t care about other marine life. So why can’t I say Black Lives Matter because they are the ones endangered? I can be upset about police shootings that doesn’t mean I’m not upset about black on black shootings. Many white people ignore the extreme poverty in Appalachia. Do they have to address that before they say something about other issues?

  62. “smh guess he doesn’t think police ever get death threats”

    From the mind of a truly dedicated racist.

  63. Explain this inequity to me Kap, blacks make up 13% of the population in America but account for 52% of all murders. That’s a FACT and I’d like you to explain it. I’ll wait.

  64. Kaepernick says America is not great, he gets death threats.

    Trump says America is not great, he should be President.

    Racism is really, really strong.

  65. shoesfinest says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:16 PM

    Maybe you should ask the police for protection??? Sure that will go over real well for you.
    ———————–

    Are you saying that the cops wouldn’t protect him, thus proving his point?

  66. Serious question….even giving cops the benefit of the following doubts as expressed above such as:

    1) he kept walking to his car
    2) he looked like he was going for something
    3) he has a long rap sheet
    4) black neighborhoods are dangerous
    5) black man is 10x the size of the white cop
    6) black man didn’t listen to orders
    7) etc., etc., etc.,

    Must they pump a full magazine into the guy’s chest? They train at target ranges all the time and presumably are good shots. Can’t they blast the guy’s legs and arms off first? Problem solved, no?

  67. The IQ of people on here is amazingly terrible. Criminals listen to cops =live….. Criminals put cops’ lives in danger= good chance you die. Simple.

  68. nowtherearesomanybunnies says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:10 PM

    “Colin needs to go on a ride-a-long with some beat cops making $35,000 a year in Oakland.”

    —–

    What, in 1975? You have a time machine?

    The average ENTRY LEVEL salary for an Oakland cop in 2016 ranges from a low of about $69,000 to a high of around $98,000 per year. Why don’t you just keep making up fictions and claiming they’re fact, and then claim these lies somehow prove your point when they wouldn’t even if they were true. That’s some real Donald Trump garbage and it’s telling that you got so many people to agree with your lie.

    ———————-

    Actually the MEDIAN is 61k, lowest at 44k. This is according to the State website.

    Go away.

  69. Why is a dead black that was killed by a cop so much more important than a black killed by a black? Or even a white killed by a cop?
    Its called “race baiting” and the medias really getting good at it.

  70. For the record, I don’t have a problem with the protest in and of itself, but I have a problem with his chosen avenue of protest. That’s just me, because I love what our country stands for in many ways. But no way did his actions justify death threats.

    And, I’m all for taking rogue, bad and underqualified police officers out of the system. Who wouldn’t be? As a society I feel like if we’re going to give a gun and authority to someone, we should choose wisely and reevaluate often.

    Now that the social injustice discussion has started, shouldn’t Kaep show respect for the flag? I’m serious – it’s only logical. He exercised his right to protest, successfully elevated a discussion to the national stage, and achieved his stated goals, all thanks to the Constitution behind that flag and the individuals who have created, shaped, and defended both (to whom I’m eternally thankful).

    Maybe it’s not time yet, maybe it is. But at some point, doesn’t he have to acknowledge that the system worked and evolved and made things better? And basically say “Thank You” to everyone who contributed?

    This entire exercise is a display of how great our country really is, imho. Kaep started this, and he has to own it and responsibly recognize the mechanisms that supported and allowed it. If he doesn’t, then I’m wrong and this is all an attention grab or a suggestion from his girlfriend or something.

  71. “Must they pump a full magazine into the guy’s chest? They train at target ranges all the time and presumably are good shots. Can’t they blast the guy’s legs and arms off first? Problem solved, no?”

    Dead men tell no tales.

  72. dreadnok89 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:06 PM

    Black America robs, murders and rapes and bullies alot more of white America than the other way around. Half
    ———–

    You have to be kidding.

  73. “Must they pump a full magazine into the guy’s chest? They train at target ranges all the time and presumably are good shots. Can’t they blast the guy’s legs and arms off first? Problem solved, no?”

    You’d think so. But if they’re gonna shoot, it’s a lot simpler for themselves if they kill the guy. Dead men tell no tales.

  74. He said that he didn’t report it to the team.. Did he report them to the police? Is there evidence that he did report these threats to the police? If not, I would seriously question that he even got any threats…

  75. “. If he disobeyed orders and reached in his pocket, then that is reasonable cause for police”

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    He was tasered then shot. Before he was tasered and shot, he was profiled by the helicopter guys. When his hands WERE UP, they said something along the lines of him “looking like he’s a bad dude” and “on something”. That’s when he was walking with his hands up.

    Meanwhile a terror suspect who they know is armed and dangerous gets into a shootout with police and lives to talk about it.

  76. “Why is a dead black that was killed by a cop so much more important than a black killed by a black? Or even a white killed by a cop?”

    Uhh…. maybe because we hold cops to a higher standard than we hold criminals?

    A criminal killing someone who didn’t deserve it is a tragedy. A cop killing somebody who didn’t deserve it is a scandal AND a tragedy.

  77. A black man is shot dead with his hands UP in Tulsa, OK. Proves Kaep’s point. END OF STORY.

    We all saw the video. What do the racists on this board say now? LOL !!!

  78. I have to wonder how many of you posting actually served. Most of us that joined and acted on behalf of this country respect Kaep’s decision to protest. Does that mean we like I or agree with his opiniont? No, but we served to protect his right to do so. Death threats and calling him a piece of trash (or other names) is not what we stood for and quite frankly is more un-American than than a guy sitting during the National Anthem. I bet each and every one of you stand up at home right? You have never talked or sat down during the Anthem ever, right?

    Get off your high horses and think about the situation rather than just condemning one man. Agree with his stance or not, it sparked a national conversation, have you ever had the conviction to do so? I applaud the young man for taking a stance and standing (kneeling) for what he believes in, most people keep their head down and refuse to do so if it makes them uncomfortable.

    That said, I don’t agree with the method. The Seahawks show of solidarity and unity was a much better image to convey.

    @ctiggs, I noticed that horrendous salute as well. Someone should tell her to never do that again or show her a proper salute.

  79. Reading all these comments tells me one thing.. Most are nothing more than Main Stream Media drones spitting out what they see on tv. Get a clue..all news is the same and is half truths to downright lies. The real news is what you see and who you trust to tell the truth. MSM isn’t it.

  80. The writer should have said that Kaepernick claims that there is “racial inequality and unfair treatment of minorities by law enforcement”. Just because this clueless twit claimed that doesn’t make it true. This will end very soon with Kaepernick being cut by the 49’s. They will rightfully say that the decision to release him was made solely because of his health issues: America is sick of him.

  81. The one thing that is glaringly missing from this entire conversation is a SOLUTION. I mean a real-true solution, a workable, viable, common sense one. We have a ton of comments but no solution(s). Regardless of your stance I have yet to see one from either faction!

  82. I think standing for the flag is standing for all america stands for good and bad. YES there is RACISM in america. Is the most important issue as it’s been made out to be. NO WAY. many sad stories of people losing their lives undeservedly EVERY day in this country.

  83. dbarnes67 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:56 PM
    “Why is a dead black that was killed by a cop so much more important than a black killed by a black?”

    The answer to your question sir is scarcity.

  84. No talent, no brains, and no class. Get rid of this loudmouthed excuse for a third-string QB already.

  85. Snapcracklepopfart

    Because a criminal isn’t sworn to protect and serve the community. Isn’t trained and given authority over the lives of the community. Doesn’t have a legal standing to carry a gun and use his judgement to effect the lives of other people. He’s a criminal, he’s breaking rules.

    It’s more important because there is an expectation of justice, dignity, integrity and empathy from police because they was sworn to uphold a duty and protect. Your question and every fool who asks it is stupid.

    You don’t expect a cop to be a criminal and you don’t expect a criminal to be a cop.

    Black on black crime matters. But a police crime is a scandal because police aren’t supposed to be committing murder or crimes. The reason they get the privileges they do is because they are supposed to be held to a higher standard. Do you get that, is that something you can understand with your small pee bigoted mind.

  86. Let’s be honest. When he was the starting qb for one of the best teams in football, he wasn’t taking this stance. He was in the super bowl, he could have cast a light on this subject. He failed to do so. His game regressed and the spotlight was no longer on him. Now he’s a backup on a bad football team. He’s doing this to stay relevant. Ignore him

  87. Sep 20, 2016 5:48 PM
    Explain this inequity to me Kap, blacks make up 13% of the population in America but account for 52% of all murders. That’s a FACT and I’d like you to explain it. I’ll wait.
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    And whites make up 82% of all child molesters….your point?

  88. sdelmonte says:
    Sep 20, 2016 4:55 PM
    Colin, when someone makes a death threat, you take it seriously. There are a lot of angry people in this country, and while the vast majority aren’t likely to harm you, it’s stupid to take a chance that one won’t.
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    Sorry Colin isn’t here, this is a profootballtalk article.

  89. sundog05 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 4:51 PM
    Colin needs to go on a ride-a-long with some beat cops making $35,000 a year in Oakland.
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    Plus another $40k in overtime and lifetime benefits and pension… But you know, facts…

  90. While it is his right to protest, I think most 49er fans would prefer he stop thinking so much about his message and start thinking about passing Blaine Gabbert on the depth chart. Constitutional rights aside, he has a job, and for what they are paying him he isn’t doing it. And you have to wonder why that hasn’t happened yet.

  91. I feel for the guy, you know, with all the time and effort he has put into formulating a clear and productive message that illustrates the injustices he cares so deeply about; and the way he delivers that message so it is received in a non-controversial and brings all of the parties together with a common goal to develop solutions to the problem; and all the work his has put into organizing his friends, family, teammates, and sponsors to influence their participation in his cause; and all of the financial sacrifices his has made to further the development of his cause and deliver his message to a wider audience; and… oh wait, never mind.

  92. flairoholic says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:54 PM

    The IQ of people on here is amazingly terrible. Criminals listen to cops =live….. Criminals put cops’ lives in danger= good chance you die. Simple.
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    How about a guy milling around with his hands in the air? What danger did he pose?

    Those dumb cops were being filmed by multiple cameras and they still had the audacity to lie about the situation.

  93. The problem with kap and blm is they are not trying to solve the problem. We all know there is a problem. If you don’t at this point, your willfully ignorant. None of these folks seem to actually want to solve the problem. The cop issue has some pretty common sense solutions to it. 1. Civilian review board with subpeona power. 2. Make the cops them selves liable, forcing them to carry insurance where rates are based on the locality they work in. This forces the police to police themselves as their own wallets are at stake. 3. Legalize drugs/stop broken windows policing. Those polices have hurt the poor for the sake of the not poor which isn’t right. And you don’t even need to do the third one bUT that would go a long way to changing the gang culture in the inner cities the same way it put the “gangstas” of the past out of business when alcohol was re-legalized. Blm needs to get people elected who want to do these things. That’s how you make change. Not by sitting during the anthem or stopping traffic. That is all just divisive. In America you make change by getting elected. You make change from the inside, not the outside demonizing others, even if your right. Slavery was ended from the inside, the civil rights movement worked because senators and reps and the president were on the inside helping. That’s how laws are changed and passed. He is literally a metaphor for whole “movement” hes just sitting there whining.

  94. Squidward = the new Tim Tebow (ONLY in terms of not having any impact on the field, but being a trending topic).

  95. I think there should be greater police presence in black neighborhoods along with tanks and 50 cal machine guns in full battle dress. Maybe the idiotic jerks would be steered into not shooting their own people up.

  96. usdcoyotesfan says:
    Sep 20, 2016 6:40 PM

    He acts like these shootings aren’t justified.
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    Having your car break down is a justifiable reason to end up dead?

  97. Just finished reading 102 comments and I didn’t get the feeling that ONE person was considering seeing the other side of this. Yes, he has started something. But it ain’t working to get people together to fix anything. So, if he can’t get football fans together to have fruitful dialogue, where else can he expect what he doing to bring folks together? We, Americans, have a problem. Its gonna take all of us to fix this. Yes, all of us. Yes, there are way too many black criminals. And way too many of them are being denied their right to a fair trial by being shot down before getting a chance to see a judge. Both issues need to be addressed. So, maybe we can all show some love for America, and personally do something to help fix this.

  98. Black people can thank president Johnson for creating an environment that’s give them no incentive to make their lives better. Rev Martin Luther King would be embarrassed of how his race crapped on opportunity he created for them.

  99. “Blm needs to get people elected who want to do these things. That’s how you make change. Not by sitting during the anthem or stopping traffic. That is all just divisive.”

    I disagree. This is the first step of GETTING people elected who want to change those things. This is how political movements are created. By getting noticed, starting debates, making politicians choose a side and offer solutions.

  100. To me, the whole problem with how these athletes are protesting with not standing during the national anthem is just the wrong way to protest. Please find another way to protest and your message will be stronger and you will be closer to accomplishing your objectives in the long run.

    The real issue are rogue police who don’t care about human rights or life. I wish the “good police” would rise up and point out the dirty cops before unnecessary and unlawful violence, against ANYBODY, occurs again. The bad cops are giving the good cops, who have to way outnumber the bad cops, a bad reputation. The police take their lives in their hands every day and the bad apples are spoiling the rest. How sad for everyone, including the innocent victims of hate crimes.

    God bless America!

  101. Twitter is all atwitter over the discombobulated 300 pound black guy shot by a white female police officer for not obeying directions, but not a peep about the white female police officer in Philadelphia who had 8 bullets pumped into her for being a white police officer by a deranged black guy while sitting in her car. Before he went on to randomly shoot several other bystanders for being white. Those dead have no names, liberal white guilt media only names the victims it chooses. The cops assassinated in ambush in Dallas were just “5 police officers”. The ones in New Orleans “3 police officers”. Single officers attacked or killed get no notice outside their hometown. All were butchered in cold blood by “victims” jacked up by the rhetoric of people like Kaepernick. But the video star black victims become everyone’s next door neighbor and their names are on the lips of millions of people who would never get within thousands of miles of them in their lifetime.

  102. Where are the comments? Where is the proof? He is still as stupid as ever. I feel bad for the team when it’s time to cut him, he will use race as an issue. Bet on it.

  103. ilovefoolsball says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:00 PM

    Donal Trump receives multiple death threats everyday. I guess he thinks Trump is correct on everything too right?
    Simpleton logic.

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    Can you substantiate that or are you just telling lies like Donal (sic).

  104. All it proves is that Kaepernick isn’t the only idiot on the planet, and we already knew that. Absolutely sick and tired of this crap. NFL has a major PR problem on its hands and had best do something about it sooner than later, or it’s going to start costing them real dollars. Once that is obvious, you can bet they’ll (finally) spring into action.

  105. This isn’t a “black and white” issue. This is a “blue” issue.

    I am a white male in his early 30’s. I have a steady job in information technology. My entire family is white and middle class.

    The police have murdered two people in my life;
    One was my aunt, who was a bank robbery HOSTAGE, and the 2nd was my friend (also white) who answered the door to his home, in a gang-infested neighborhood, at 3AM, with his constitutionally protected and legally possessed shotgun at his side for protection, and the police lit him up without warning or reason upon answering the door.

    The police in this country are clearly either blood thirsty or incredibly stupid. I honestly can’t tell which. But obviously, black Americans get it much worse… I just happen to be a white guy who empathizes with CK.

    I am on your side, Kaep. I honestly didn’t like you as a person, at all, until you made this courageous stance against police brutality and excessive uses of force.

    I also think unfettered access to guns is a major factor in this problem. 500,000 guns are stolen in America EVERY YEAR… If people can’t responsibly own guns and keep them from being stolen, they shouldn’t be allowed to own guns at all. Those stolen guns enter the black market and are used to commit crimes, including against police officers, which has their defenses up at all times as a result.

  106. Trump has had two verified attempts on his life while on stage, and I’m sure numerous that were aborted before it got to that point. Even if he wins the Presidency, he will be paid a tiny fraction of what Akbarnick earns standing on the sideline teasing his fro and trying to look profound. But I doubt anyone would even climb a flight of stairs to go after Akbar, much less spend good money on a ticket to get into the venue.

  107. “..but not a peep about the white female police officer in Philadelphia who had 8 bullets pumped into her..” But she was a black cop. But her race was not the issue. He was an equal-opportunity killer. Some commenters here think that the black community is cool with psychopaths being nurtured, incarcerated and returned, more violent than ever, to our communities. We are NOT! We recognize our problem and the need for help. And saying it ain’t your problem will only work a little while. Fire spreads. My house today, yours tomorrow.

  108. @papichulo So, how has all this “dialogue” helped? Not a bit that I can see. Lines are drawn harder than ever, and individuals are being motivated to revenge attacks by the social media storm. The two sides are further apart than ever, and one area where races and ethnicities enjoyed a truce and mutual respect, sports, have been poisoned by being drawn into the fray.

  109. Kinda like the BLM folks who destroyed property, burned cars, pushed women and threw bottles at police outside of the Trump rallies in California.
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    No kind of like the Trump supporters who punched and beat up protesters inside the rallies

  110. Almost 8 years of a black President applying “social justice” thinking and policies to the country and racial tensions are far worse and the country more divided than 8 years ago with results for blacks in the areas of employment, incarceration, two-parent families, and income being more WORSE.

    Clearly, that type of thinking and those policies bring failure. It’s undeniable at this point. Solution: Stop doing it!

    Stop focusing everything on race and start holding individuals — blacks and police — accountable for their actions and for the attitudes that they create in response to them. It may not be easy, but accepting the truth about your failures rarely is.

  111. whining about his stance isnt going to change it…demanding accountability when cops DO make mistakes however will! its time we stood together and made some positive changes. dont pretend that everything is velvet and roses…while i dont like his act of kneeling during the anthem, i at least understand it and respect his right to do so.

  112. Kaepernick is a moron who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    He says it’s whitey oppressing people of color.

    This actually proves he has the IQ of a turnip, because it isn’t racism that is causing problems, it’s policy.

    Policy enacted by African Americans, white, hispanic, asian, etc, etc. People who are Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, Muslim, atheist, other.

    It takes a real moron to not know this. What’s real stupid, is that Barrack Obama is the one militarizing the police.

    Barrack Obama is in favor of ‘trade deals’ that outsource jobs.

    Barrack Obama and his appointees Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch (all African American) are the ones who didn’t prosecute Wall Street.

    It was Barrack Obama who didn’t reinstate Glass-Steagall, feigning that he fixed the problem with Dodd-Frank, which actually was a gift to Wall Street that created bail-in, which means steal your deposits to pay off the banks creditors (and it isn’t enough because there isn’t hundreds of trillions of deposits to make good on the worthless derivatives bets).

    It’s Barrack Obama (after Bush) who has been siding with the terrorists who caused 9/11, you know them as the House of Saud, the royal family of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

    You see Obama is a traitor (also a war criminal) who is oppressing the families of the victim’s of 9/11 who want to sue Saudi Arabia for their crime of 9/11. You know who has been hiding this Bush and Obama.

    Now the JASTA bill was just passed UNANIMOUSLY in the house, despite Obama’s traitorous threat to veto the bill. He puts the terrorists over the victims.

    He’s also murdered a 16 year old Colorado boy in an extrajudicial killing via a drone strike specifically targeting him. No due process, not even any charges or indictment against him. Just cold blooded murder.

    I say this as lifelong Democrat, because you know what, any Democrat who ignores the above is a problem for our country and part of its destruction.

    Kaepernick needs to look in the mirror. This isn’t a color thing, it’s a policy thing. But when Kaepernick and BLM talks, it becomes a moron thing, because these idiots don’t get it.

    They are making sure more oppression happens, because we can’t get to the issues, because it’s been hijacked by morons who are missing the entire point.

    Good job Kaepernick, YOU are everything YOU hate. Get a clue.

  113. The police in this country are clearly either blood thirsty or incredibly stupid. I honestly can’t tell which

    this is exactly the problem. some folks think choice must be limited to suit their position. that shows a weak hand. ever stop to think for a second perhaps fear has something to do with it?

    every woman who ever bore children knows something men don’t the same is true of cops and civilians. until you’ve been faced with their challenges we can’t know how we’d react.

    judge each case individually, not as cops or blacks or whites. otherwise its stereotyping, the ugly stepsister of racism.

    both Colin and those who threaten him can be wrong at the same time. There’s your 3rd option for those keeping count. Not surprised if there others I haven’t considered.

  114. I would like to thank BLM, CNN, the Clintons, Democrats and Republicans for making Donald Trump the next president of the United States.

    I voted for Obama in 08′.

  115. Mackame 15 says “First you have to admit you have a problem” Can I assume you are referencing every black person living in innercity neighborhoods with out of control crime and gangs, unwed mothers with multiple fathers ( very few involved with their children) a lack of commitment to the value of education, and too much reliance on government programs for everyday necessities, if so I agree whole heartedly.

  116. natelan says:
    Sep 20, 2016 7:24 PM
    This isn’t a “black and white” issue. This is a “blue” issue.

    I am a white male in his early 30’s. I have a steady job in information technology. My entire family is white and middle class.

    The police have murdered two people in my life;
    One was my aunt, who was a bank robbery HOSTAGE, and the 2nd was my friend (also white) who answered the door to his home, in a gang-infested neighborhood, at 3AM, with his constitutionally protected and legally possessed shotgun at his side for protection, and the police lit him up without warning or reason upon answering the door.

    The police in this country are clearly either blood thirsty or incredibly stupid. I honestly can’t tell which. But obviously, black Americans get it much worse… I just happen to be a white guy who empathizes with CK.

    I am on your side, Kaep. I honestly didn’t like you as a person, at all, until you made this courageous stance against police brutality and excessive uses of force.

    I also think unfettered access to guns is a major factor in this problem. 500,000 guns are stolen in America EVERY YEAR… If people can’t responsibly own guns and keep them from being stolen, they shouldn’t be allowed to own guns at all. Those stolen guns enter the black market and are used to commit crimes, including against police officers, which has their defenses up at all times as a result.

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    You are so typical of ignorant people making ignorant comments.
    First we have to take at face value that what you say happened to two people you knew, really happened.
    Then, even if we believe you — you are criticizing all cops for the actions of a few.
    Cops are not bloodthirsty nor are they stupid. What they are is underpaid, under-appreciated, and over-stressed.
    I’d love to see you do the job they do in the climate we live in today and see how you’d feel about them then.
    I know a cop who put 20 years on the job in a fairly large city with a high crime rate who was forced to retire. He is a black guy and his wife is white, and many years ago I coached their son in Little League. I never met a nicer kid.
    A couple of years before he retired, he was suspended with pay because he took a black guy out of the back of his squad car and beat him up. The reason he took the guy out of the car and beat him up was because the guy was spitting on him and throwing fecal matter at him while he was driving him to the station after arresting him for burglary.
    After many months, they had a hearing and he was allowed to retire with his pension. I think they should have given him a medal. If anyone did to me what that criminal did to him, I’d try to break his neck.
    I talked to him about it several years after he retired and he told me he knew he was going to snap because he couldn’t take the abuse cops take anymore, and he wished he’d have sought help for it. He said it got so bad he couldn’t even sleep anymore.
    He said the guy that did that to him had been arrested by just about every cop in his station at one time or another, and is a total dirt bag. But they arrest him, and he goes right back on the streets doing his dirty crap. He’s probably still doing it as I type this.
    Tom (the cop) said the only thing he is grateful for is he didn’t kill that guy. Because he said he was so angry, he wanted to.
    So — you slam cops all you want, but remember this. They are human and they are under a tremendous amount of stress, especially white cops who are on the streets in black neighborhoods. I’ll tell you this straight out. I don’t own a gun, and it’s a good thing. And if I had to patrol the streets in the tough neighborhoods that cops have to and if I felt my life was in danger, I’d shoot first and ask questions later.
    It takes a lot of guts to be a cop today, even in the most rural areas. You never know when you pull a car over if it’s the last time you’ll pull one over.
    You say you empathize with Kaepernick. Why? What great suffering has he endured? How about all the cops who are killed by black guys? Do you empathize with their families? And how about blacks who are killed by other blacks? How do you feel about them?
    It just amazes me how the truth gets skirted over in the name of this phony “black lives matter” agenda.
    My father raised 5 boys. He told us all the same thing when we were old enough to drive and go out. He said, “if you look for trouble, you’ll find it”. It’s simple advice but it gets right to the point. And we knew what would be waiting for us when we got home if we did find it.
    You want to meet people who need sympathy? Go talk with the widow of a murdered cop and her children.
    And do something else — tell blacks that if they stay out of troubled areas and situations, they’ll never have trouble with cops. It’s something many of them don’t seem to understand, including a lot of them who play in the NFL.

  117. “Actually the MEDIAN is 61k, lowest at 44k. This is according to the State website.

    Go away.”

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    That’s completely wrong. You don’t know how to look things up and you don’t understand sources. It’s no wonder that you’ve come to the wrong conclusion. Just pathetic.

  118. nyneal… Both murders committed by the Escondido Police Department in San Diego County. I am a frequent commenter in the Chargers section, to further validate my claims. Search my aunt anytime, Leslie Ann Landersman. It was national news when the Escondido Police Department assassinated her. I was a baby, never got to meet her. Beautiful woman, Miss Escondido growing up.

    Didn’t read the rest of your post. Seemed a little drunk-posty.

  119. I’m just waiting for some Veterans Groups to begin boycotting NFL sponsors. You know its coming. And I’d support that 100%. Put some pressure on Goodell to act like…you know….an actual commissioner. Not just the school disciplinarian.

    Control your league Goodell.

  120. Threats mean nothing towards his issue at hand. Any threats made aren’t because of his race/color of his skin. It is about his choices towards the National Anthem and his anti cops message. Isn’t what he is saying about cops being racist himself? He is subjecting an entire profession to criticism due to a few potential people being corrupt, which we still don’t know for sure. Isn’t he doing exactly what he is complaining about to the same police who protect his rear end each week? Yes, threats should be made, but they aren’t because of his color.

  121. Cops have death threats all the time. This guy is a little buttercup. What is he protesting ? The Bd will come out o an end. Reminds me of the X hats. Remember them ? They accomplished nothing – just like his protest.

  122. Death threats have been made for much less than Kap’s for stupidity and basically antisocial behavior. There are lots of irrational people out there I know it, he knows it, thus he has to live with it. Wrong platform for protest no matter what the cause.

  123. To the “yeah but black on black crime” crowd…

    Maybe there is a lot of black people who die because other black people.

    The difference therein is that people are then prosecuted and sent to prison when it happens.

    Cops are almost never prosecuted. They usually quit. Move. Then get hired on down the freeway somewhere.

    It is logically defective to compare the two. Everyone knows that a killing will happen every day. Society accepts that justice settles the matter and everyone moves on. When a cop commits a negligent act of manslaughter or murder, justice really doesn’t happen. They beat all charges.

  124. Kaepernick is going to have to back these claims up in some fashion to the team and the league. I can’t imagine they will treat a credible death threat as lightly (or vaguely) as he does. Good chance it’s straight out B.S., but still he’s going to have to answer some very pointed questions from NFL security and/or local authorities. If they put him out on the field during a game in proximity to all of his teammates, the coaching and training staff, along with the thousands of fans in the stadium each week, it’s not going to be looked at as “ho hum, just another death threat”.

    Curious to see how this unfolds, I think the team has been enabling Akbar this long to wait for his to trip up in some fashion to give themselves a graceful way to get rid of him, and hopefully save some of the money he isn’t earning. Maybe this will be it. Keep your fingers crossed.

  125. I don’t see any reason why a police officer would need to pull a gun on me (or pretty much anyone I know or am related to)… ever. It’s not that hard to live on the right side of the law.

    Police officers are not just driving down the streets arresting and shooting people for no reason whatsoever.

    Sincerely,

    The Silent Law-Abiding Majority of Citizens

  126. It really is quite sad reading through the majority of the comments posted above. The complete and utter lack of understanding and ignorance towards each other and actual facts, as well as the need for both sides of the “debate” / “argument” to absolutely ignore any semblance of rational thought. To continue to take pieces of information out of context or to pick and choose only those “realities” that allow for the pursuit of ensuring their opinions are taken as something definitive as opposed to what they actually are, just an opinion. While it doesn’t matter if you agree or don’t agree with the form of protest or how it started and why, the reality is that racism going both ways absolutely does exist and is an issue in this world, however to blindly chalk up every Injustice or situation that one does not agree with a being motivated by racism is completely cowardice and a convenient excuse in order to maintain a false sense of one’s on measure of responsibility. Just as the most recent example we can look to the Tulsa police shooting situation, which has been commented on at length above and used as a trump card in the argument, however in this rush to insinuate fault and blame people decide to ignore or embellish the actual events or facts to justify their own agendas. We don’t even wait to actually find out the whole story, we just assume that what the media force feeds everyone to increase their ratings and the spin shouted from both sides is 100% fact, because that is what we need to justify our argument, regardless to which side you are on or what actually transpired. We don’t have the whole story or even the whole video or sound as to what went down on that tragic day, yet somehow we all know the “truth” of the matter. The officer seemed to be completely wrong to use deadly force, based off of what was played of the video and that is something that should not be condoned, however the gentleman also clearly did not obey the instructions being conveyed by the officers either. You have your hands up, you do not have a weapon, as we found out after the fact and by simply stopping and not moving or walking back towards your vehicle for whatever reason, I can’t help but feel this whole situation is avoided. Now that in and of itself still does not justify the use of deadly force and again, the officer was wrong to take that one shot that killed him. Yes one shot, not unloading the clip into his chest as was stated above. An example of twisting the story to make it seem worse then it was especially when there was no need to make this man being killed any worse. Also, the finding of PCP in the mans vehicle after the fact. Could he have been high during the altercation, is this why instead of just kneeling down he continues to ignore the officer and head back to his vehicle? Long story short is that unfortunately this was a tragic situation in which both sides made very bad decisions and it cost this man his life and the woman officer hers as well. I can’t imagine she would want to murder the gentleman and have her and her family’s life torn apart and his and his family’s life torn apart in the process. It makes no logical sense. It was a very poor decision and the consequences will be dire regardless of the outcome. Sadly what is not needed at this time is what I’ve seen in the media and have read throughout these comments, which is the utilization of these sad events by the ignorant and feeble minded to continue to drive the wedge in the divide in an effort that does not try to bridge the gap we all face, does not try to find or offer solutions as to what can be done on both sides, but instead continues to twist the realities and point the finger in the opposite direction. There is enough blame to go around and it is much simpler it seems then to actually taking responsibility, which I find is lacking across the board..the world is not black and white but a multitude of greys.

  127. Not all cops get away with murder. Look at what happened last year with the University of Cincinnati officer. Prosecutor called it ‘ASININE’ and he will be prosecuted.

  128. Wow I CANT BELIEVE All These COMMMENTS!!! Why Don’t You GOOGLE THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER’s ORIGIN?? DID YOU KNOW The 3RD VERSE IS A Celebration Towards BLACK SLAVERY?? YOU ARE ALL A PART of WHY THIS COUNTRY IS FILLED WITH IGNORANCE!!! Don’t Hate on PLAYERS Who Are Walking In Their “Rights of Freedom” So Sad How The Majority Is A SLAVE TO HATRED & IGNORANCE! Praying for you all to WAKE UP and Drink Some KoolAid!!!

    KAPERNICK FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!
    If You don’t like that Comment, YOU ARE IGNORANT!! Get Rid Of All That HATRED IN YOUR HEARTS!!

  129. Colin, some people commit crimes or do other things requiring police attention. The police have to deal with those people. Many of those people are dangerous. Many have killed or injured police. When police approach someone, they don’t know what that person will do….so they have to be very careful. People can appear to be unarmed, but pull a weapon out of a pocket or out of a vehicle. People who ignore orders from police are a threat. Police have to react to a threat, and that can mean shooting the person. After the person is under control, by being shot or otherwise, it may be found that there was no weapon. There seems to be a problem, with some people, in cooperating with police. Police are law enforcement officers. People have a duty to obey lawful orders by police. It isn’t optional, and police are authorized to enforce the law, including their orders. If black lives matter, then black people must be lawful and cooperate with lawful orders from police. There is no other way.

  130. A 12 year old white kid was shot and killed last weekend in Chicago for stepping on a black gangbanger’s sneaker, where’s the outcry???? This kind of thing happens far far more than the few violent police officers in this country that are trigger happy.

  131. I don’t have to read the rest of the comments cause the first 5 lets me know it will be filled with a bunch of people who claim their not racist but make comments like what I have seen….u are why America is not great and like he said u prove why he needs to continue what he is doing!!!

  132. We vented over Kap and now it’s time to move on. Just consider it the new normal. Some players are not going to stand for the national anthem. Either deal with it or don’t go to the game.

  133. I have no problem with CK refusing to stand for the national anthem. If he wants to protest and that is his chosen format….have at it. That is the greatness of this country….we aren’t forced to salute the flag or stand for the anthem. We have the right to protest in any peaceful manner we choose. But those same rights allow me to have an opinion on his chosen manner of protest. Like others, I don’t think refusing to stand for the national anthem is a very good manner of protest. I wouldn’t have chosen that method, but that’s me.

    What bothers me more is that his chosen method of protest does little to solve the issues of which he is complaining. He says he wants to bring awareness to the situation. I don’t think the issue needs any more awareness….its all over the news and discussed all over the country. What we need are solutions. If CK wants to make a difference, he should use his celebrity status and offer to work with local community leaders and law enforcement leaders to come up with solutions.

    Too many people in this country are satisfied with wearing ribbons, pouring ice water over their heads or not standing for the national anthem. Not enough people are willing to actually do something to resolve problems.

  134. I wonder what he’s going to do or say next to get attention once people forget about him again.

  135. packmanfan says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:31 PM
    whysomanylosers says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:16 PM

    There are SO MANY better ways for him to use his celebrity to bring change to the “problem”. But to be quite honest, kneeling for the anthem is much easier for his lazy ass.
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    You didn’t read the article where he is going to start donating money, a lot of money, towards organizations to try and solve these types of problems.

    So what are you doing about this problem yourself?

    Typing at it in the comfort of your home, office or cubicle is much easier for your lazy ass.

    __________________________________

    I read an article where he “said” he was “going to start donating…” I missed any articles that showed actual donations.

    I have other causes that are more important to me, that I do take an active role in. But to answer your question, I come from a fairly racist upbringing. I raise my own mixed race kids in diverse settings, they are color blind. That is a start.

    My point is, if this TRULY concerns him, what is he actually DOING about it?

  136. If the point of his “protest” is to create more division and dissension then I wuold call it a success. If, on the other hand, he would like to be a positive role model for everyone to begin a healing conversation on an important social issue, I would say his efforts are on par with his football career.

  137. natelan69 says:
    Sep 20, 2016 8:45 PM
    nyneal… Both murders committed by the Escondido Police Department in San Diego County. I am a frequent commenter in the Chargers section, to further validate my claims. Search my aunt anytime, Leslie Ann Landersman. It was national news when the Escondido Police Department assassinated her. I was a baby, never got to meet her. Beautiful woman, Miss Escondido growing up.

    Didn’t read the rest of your post. Seemed a little drunk-posty.

    I just Googled this and you’ve grossly misrepresented the facts. Typical for the hands up don’t shoot crowd that eschews reality for sensationalism.

    You’re not part of the problem, you ARE the problem.

  138. Sadly and unfortunately, the comments on this site only reinforce Kaep’s position.

    It’s not that (racist) whites don’t understand, it’s that they don’t care…because they’re racists (duh). Racists could care less about the racist history of this nation, which is the reason we’re still having to deal with these issues of racial bias and injustice.

    It’s not their fathers, sons, brothers, cousins or uncles lying in the street or sitting in their cars riddled with bullets by the hands of racists police officers.

    As a result, they have no commiseration for blacks on the receiving end of unjust, murderous brutality; as is reflected by the apathy and ignorance in the majority of these remarks.

  139. I just don’t understand why it has to be white and black when their is so many more walks of life in this country i mean look at the real issue our future president.but go ahead and get all caught up in things that aren’t going to change and that’s skin color if you want your problem to change build a stronger community get involved quit looking for hand outs work for something and be proud of that

  140. He needs to buy some knee pads because he’s going to be kneeling a long time. There will always be bad cops. There are a-holes in every profession. There will always be people that don’t trust any cops.

    If any group of people want to change the culture, join the police force. Change from within.

    But we never have a national signing day for the police academy broadcast by ESPN.

  141. like many i doubt Kaps motives.. but that said you are either in denial or ignorant if you dont see racism is a problem in this country (not the only problem by far) .. Inner city cops also act like a gang them selves, and have been trained to precieve the people they are supposed to serve as enemies (see Milwaukee County Sheriff as example) , you are not soldiers and should not ever act as such.. I do respect what cops do but they have to expect that they are going to be held to a higher standard..just possessing a gun does not give the right to execute a person, a person not following your instructions does not entitle an execution, and if its not murder the involved officer at the very least has shown the inability to make decisions under pressure and should never wear a badge again .. these are crimes (and those doing so criminals) but they are not punishable by death

  142. People in this thread have a sad misunderstanding of what is happening. He isn’t protesting the flag, and he isn’t insulting our country. You’re insulting our country by working to prevent the equal treatment of all ethnicities under the law.

    You’re probably the same people who assaulted protesters during diner sit-ins. Enjoy being on the wrong side of history.

  143. bigbensbathroombuddy says:
    Sep 21, 2016 8:40 AM
    The number of racist people on here is staggering and worrisome.

    I know and am forced to wonder why they hate whites based on lies and false narratives about people being executed with their hands in the air when video evidence proves it never happened that way.

    There are enough real problems to tackle without having to deal with lies.

  144. this kid is seriously dumb

    we already knew racism existed

    he acts like he is a martyr and split the atom, while curing cancer

    ugh

    millennnials are just the worst

  145. bestbadteamaround says:
    Sep 21, 2016 9:09 AM
    People in this thread have a sad misunderstanding of what is happening. He isn’t protesting the flag, and he isn’t insulting our country. You’re insulting our country by working to prevent the equal treatment of all ethnicities under the law.

    Equal treatment? He’s protesting the fact that police are killing less blacks than whites. That blacks are committing violent crimes against whites by an enormous margin based on DOJ reports. That blacks are randomly executing cops as a make up call.

    Doesn’t sound equal to me.

  146. Perhaps understanding history and the vernacular of the times might dissuade the whole, “National Anthem celebrates slavery” nonsense. The third verse refers to the British forces in the war of 1812 utilizing “hirelings” otherwise known as mercenaries, as well as “slaves”. However, the slaves in this case would be captured seaman and the like being forced to man and fight on the British Navel fleet. Otherwise known as impressment, which was widely used by the British during the war. There was also American slaves that did end up fighting for the British as well and the vast majority of them ended up in Canada and Haiti after the war with their freedom. All of this is not to justify or even remotely agree with the practice of slavery, which is the darkest stain on our great nation in my opinion. However, to use revisionist history to twist a verse of the National Anthem, a verse never song and probably not even known about by those of you that are now using it to once again further attempt to divide our nation and somehow justify a point is pushing the ridiculousness a little too far.

  147. bigbensbathroombuddy says:
    Sep 21, 2016 8:40 AM
    The number of racist people on here is staggering and worrisome.
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    I know what you mean. It seems that when one of these articles is posted on PFT, a lookout sends an alert to a list of crazies, and they all converge here at once to make racist comments. They probably think their racism will generate more racism, which is their goal. Pretty sickening, isn’t it?

  148. salsendardo says:
    Sep 21, 2016 9:46 AM
    @tylawspick6

    Are you too young to forget the protests in the 70s? 60s? Europe I the 80s? You sound like you think protests are a new hipster thing.

    I was around for the 60’s protests but please remember they were not all equal. Some were actually peaceful. Other’s like the Weathemen (Obama’s buddy Ayers), SDS, BLA in the 80s were not about peace in any way shape or form and innocent people died as a result.

  149. He references this “movement” but I don’t know that we can call it that. A movement has a definite end in mind, a goal that it is seeking to achieve. And while some people may deviate from that or have more extensive goals, by definition most of the people involved in a movement are reaching for the same thing.

    What is the aim of this “movement”? Police brutality is a problem, but how exactly does this movement define the end of that brutality? Zero incidents? What else are they trying to accomplish? “Better treatment” of blacks? How is that defined? The end of all institutional racism? You’ll be kneeling until you reach the grave (not that this is okay or that we should accept the slow progress).

    Megan Rapinoe is now kneeling because she identifies with Kaepernick. Except….she is apparently concerned with the treatment of the LGBTQ crowd. So is that a different movement? An extension of the same movement? Perhaps Kaep can better use his fame to at least call the leaders of his “movement” to clearly identify what they hope to accomplish in concrete terms.

  150. Kaep will continue to “cry wolf” to keep himself in the news. The issue that he is addressing has to do with the structural application of law in this country. Just yesterday a black man was killed in Carolina because he brandished a pistol.

    He was killed by…wait for it…a black policeman. The local folks rioted, blocked I-85, and destroyed at least two police cruisers ( which, by the way, the taxpayers have to pay for ) all because they were under the impression that the victim had no weapon. I don’t know if he did or not….but we do have a judicial process in place in this country to resolve such things…so why can’t “stars” like Kaep work things through the existing laws…or work with their congressional representative to change things?

    Now, if Kaep is so concerned, why doesn’t he mediate an issue like this from both sides ( especially since both the victim and the officer were men of color ). Do we “tear it all down” every time there is an incident such as this…or do we attempt to see the cause and effect? Complaining is easy….fixing things takes a bit more resolve.

  151. At the end of the day, Colin Kaepernick still grew up in a rich neighborhood with a white mommy and daddy. This guy is a buffoon.

  152. Duh welcome to social media! Everyobdy in the lime light who expresses their opinion will get these. Lotta creeps out there.
    I see a lot of repsonses about the cops and white people. Too funny! Hey you know what happened in chicago yesterday….a 15yr black kid was murdered. Shot multiple times and stuffed in a garbage can. If you think the police injsutice is the biggest problem in this country you are just deflecting. Like the riots in Milwuakee cuz a black cop shot a black man to death who was carrying a gun. He recieved death threats too.
    Dumbing down of America continues as the couragous athletes take a knee

  153. bradjames2 says:
    Sep 21, 2016 1:10 PM
    At the end of the day, Colin Kaepernick still grew up in a rich neighborhood with a white mommy and daddy. This guy is a buffoon.
    ————
    So, because of where he grew up and who his parents are, he doesn’t have the right to feel the way he does? That justifies him getting death threats? He doesn’t have the right to feel the way he does? NO, my friend YOU are the buffoon!

  154. I live in Charlotte, NC, there is peaceful protests occurring right now…they are carrying a flag saying ‘No police, No Prisons’ …what a joke. I don’t see a flag saying ‘No gangs, No violence’.

  155. He is right. It just boogles my mind that people are so upset he’s not standing. How much you want to bet before this controversy that if you walked into any sports bar that no one during the anthem(if they even bothered to show it) even took notice when it was playing. I wonder if those same people who are foaming at the mouth stand for the anthem when a TV Station signs off.

    I think most of the animosity towards Kaep has more to do with racism than them caring about patriotism. I wouldn’t be surprised the death threats he got were from cops or military servicemen. I’ve noticed that people who serve the government are the least tolerant of civilians exercising the rights they allegedly are defending

  156. bigbensbathroombuddy says:
    Sep 21, 2016 8:40 AM
    The number of racist people on here is staggering and worrisome.
    —————

    Well yeah, if you classify anyone who disagrees with you as a racist.

  157. bills1oftheseyrs says:
    Sep 20, 2016 5:05 PM
    He’s a good little communist democrat. Thinks anyone who is patriotic is racist.
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    A lot of you, not all, are attempting to disguise your racism as patriotism.

    So much anger for Kap bringing a real issue to the forefront. My guess is that many are completely ok withe the status quo.

    I can’t help but wonder where many of you would have stood during the 60s. I’m kidding. I know.

  158. I’m surprised that he doesn’t somehow incorporate the “hands up” motion into his protest. But that would once again be an act that these protesters are supporting that actually never happened in the first place.

  159. Okay let’s try this! “Big Hit” for the Vikings this week, losing a starting running back and left tackle on the heels of their starting QB going down with a major knee injury.
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    The definition of “big hit” is not—a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

    Why so many down votes on completely differing opinions on this comment thread?

    And for the third time, welcome to the “big hit” pool. Come on in, the water is fine!!!

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