Elway on Osweiler: The deals you don’t make at times are the best

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Brock Osweiler looked like anything but an $18 million per year quarterback on Thursday night as the Texans were shut out in New England, and the guy who nearly signed him for not much less than that noticed.

“A lot of times those deals you don’t make are the best ones,” Broncos executive V.P. of football operations and G.M. John Elway told Dave Logan and Susie Wargin of KOA radio on Friday.

Though Elway was responding to specific question and had a lighthearted tone, he said what he said, and it’ll be interesting to see what Osweiler and the Texans eventually have to say about that.

“Obviously it was a tough night for Houston last night and — but things move on,” Elway added. “You try to make the best decision when you have to make it. . . . Excluding last night, we really felt good with the way everything’s fallen, the way we went into camp, and we’re really excited with the guys who are playing the position for us now.”

Osweiler’s replacement, Trevor Siemian, has one touchdown pass and three interceptions in two games, both at home. On Sunday, the Broncos play a true road game for the first time since December 20, a stretch of seven games without having to entire hostile territory.

The Broncos will be in their own back yard on October 24, when Osweiler returns to town with the Texans. Elway’s comments likely will provide extra motivation; based, however, on what happened Thursday night, they’ll need a lot more than motivation to match up with the defending NFL champions.

52 responses to “Elway on Osweiler: The deals you don’t make at times are the best

  1. Osweiler is a good QB. Siemian is a little bit better. Paxton Lynch will be a great QB. Elway knows about QBs. You’d think he played the position or something. Nah. Great players don’t make great GMs. LOL

  2. I think Elway probably wishes he didn’t say that. Everyone had a bad night on Thursday for the Texans. I honestly think it’s the way O’Brien prepared his team. From the time they hit the field, they looked nervous. They played so much more tentative and “scared” than the 1st 2 games.

    Osweiler didn’t have a good night, but he wasn’t fumbling the ball on kick returns – the team around him was terrible as well.

    Based on the 1st 2 games, the general thinking was that the Texans made a good decision. We’ll see what things look like at the end of the season.

  3. Elway is a genius. Letting osweiler walk let him keep this defense intact. Todd Davis is better than Danny trevathan and Malik Jackson isn’t a 90mil player especially without the pass rushing Denver has. Lynch will be better than Brock as well.

  4. Tyrod Taylor looks like a world beater compared to Brock Osweiler, and that one sideline pass he knows how to throw. Luckily for him Hopkins is there to make 10 yard sideline circus catches, or Osweiler couldn’t do anything. Anything except clap his bands and be a rah rah guy.

  5. Then there’s the deals you make to violate the salary cap….

    Stay classy John. Looks like a horse, so guess he thinks that excuses acting like one. If you didn’t want to pay Osweiler, just say that.

  6. Based on the 1st 2 games, the general thinking was that the Texans made a good decision. We’ll see what things look like at the end of the season.
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    Carson Palmer is now 0-5 against Belichick. Lots of QB’s have looked horrible against him, so, I agree, Osweiler could very well become successful.

    Also, lots of teams look “tentative” or “unprepared” when, really, they’re just over matched.

  7. The decision to let Osweiler walk allowed the Broncos the flexibility to lock up Von Miller long-term. For that reason alone, the decision to let Brock walk was the correct one. Find one GM in the league who would rather have Brock over Von.

  8. It is nothing less than mean jumping on Oweiler this week. The kid is 2-1 and in his first full season. Siemian is not as good as Osweiler and the Broncos might be Super Bowl favorites with Osweiler and aren’t with Simian..

  9. Elway has done a fine job since becoming a GM. He isn’t a politically correct type of guy. I like that!

    He may regret saying that at some point but… I doubt it.🙄

  10. pastabelly says:
    Sep 24, 2016 2:42 PM

    John Elway is truly a nasty human being.
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    No kidding.

    The Donkeys wouldn’t have made it to the Super Bowl without Osweiler.

  11. Way to early to tell for either QB….but Belichick made Osweiler.. well…really the WHOLE Texan team look completely pathetic.
    Lets see what Siemian will do on the road against Cincy tomorrow… that should help determine which QB will really have a legitimate shot at the better season.

  12. To look at it in another way, you are worth the amount to the team that they are paying you.
    Example: Osweiler…$18MM, Brady….$4MM per year.
    That indicates Osweiller is worth 4 1/2 times as much to the Texans as Brady is to the Patriots at this point in their careers.

  13. Like I said when some dummies were blasting the Broncos, Elway played this like a fiddle. He didn’t really want him back unless he got him on the Ryan Fitzpatrick special, and Houston fans are finding out why now what Elway saw in practice for 4 years, Osweiler isn’t very good. He played at about the level of Brian Hoyer who Houston couldn’t wait to get a bus pass out of town down the stretch, and the Texans actually gave him $18 mil a year for that effort.

  14. A lot of revisionist history this week. Elway got lucky Osweiler was butt hurt about the quick hook he got for Peyton late last season and the Texans were desperate. What was Elway’s last offer? About 16 mil per season? So unlike him to pat himself on the back for getting lucky.

  15. willycents says:
    Sep 24, 2016 3:49 PM
    To look at it in another way, you are worth the amount to the team that they are paying you.
    Example: Osweiler…$18MM, Brady….$4MM per year.
    That indicates Osweiller is worth 4 1/2 times as much to the Texans as Brady is to the Patriots at this point in their careers.
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    It doesn’t mean that at all. Brady did the Patriots a favor that also made it impossible to trade him and go with Garoppolo. Brady structured his deal to be team friendly on the cap, but hell on the team if they tried to deal him before 2018.

  16. Hmmm….who is the guy that drafted Osweiler again and brought him to the NFL? Tim Tebow?

    Is Peyton Manning heading to the Hall of Fame for anything Elway did? Perhaps we compare Osweiler with Siemien and Lynch AFTER the season, eh?

    Just a reality check here. Let’s not beat our chest too hard yet, John, ‘kay?

  17. In itself, signing Miller to a crazy contract may turn out to be as stupid signing Osweiler to a crazy contract – so Elway may eat his words by the end of the season. It’s way early to tell. In my opinion quality depth in football is more valuable than top level talent – possibly aside from the QB position. We’ll see in late December, but I’m more confident in Houston winning its division than the Broncos winning theirs.

  18. dietrich43 says:
    Sep 24, 2016 2:57 PM
    Then there’s the deals you make to violate the salary cap….

    Stay classy John. Looks like a horse, so guess he thinks that excuses acting like one. If you didn’t want to pay Osweiler, just say that.

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    What kind of skeletons do you have in your closet from say … 20 years ago. It’s so pathetic for people to fall on their sword for something that happened when Elway played 20 years ago. You aren’t just beating a dead horse, you’re beating a buried dead horse. You must have a pathetic life.

  19. mmack66 says:
    Sep 24, 2016 3:32 PM
    pastabelly says:
    Sep 24, 2016 2:42 PM

    John Elway is truly a nasty human being.
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    No kidding.

    The Donkeys wouldn’t have made it to the Super Bowl without Osweiler.

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    The Broncos would not have beaten the Chargers and secured home field advantage WITH Osweiler at QB in the second half of the Chargers’ game. He doesn’t make everyone around him better. Period.

  20. Real class, there Elway. Obviously what Elway is doing works but this arrogance he displays everytime a free agent they want to keep leaves Denver (he did this with Dummervil and others too) and the crap he pulled with the Baltimore Colts is why I don’t like him. The hypocritical aspect is the worst. That defense is sick, but they’re not winning another Super Bowl with it and without a good QB. As amazing as a coach and QB teacher Kubiak is they don’t have much to work with. The Broncos would gave been better of with Brock for that reason (and likley formidable in the playoffs) and Elway knows it.

  21. This feels like Elway needed to take a shot at the QB who would not play for him at 16 Mil per season.

    Didn’t float this spin after week one, when the Texans beat the Bears.

    Didn’t float this spin after the Texans beat the Chiefs in week two.

    Instead, he waits until the Texans lose in week three, then spouts off. Pathetic? Well, maybe just self-serving.

    He screwed up several times this off season – letting Miami up the price for resigning CJ Anderson (his only running back), releasing Bronco offers to Von Miller to the press thereby steeling Miller’s resolve to bend him over the barrel, questionable player decisions at punter and offensive line, after pissing off the QB who was the heir apparent for 4 years under Manning.

    Of course this Elway blurt is the only thing Bronco fans will remember, ’cause, he’s John Elway. I say, wait and see….

  22. Never been a Broncos fan.. can’t stand Elway.. I know ppl regard him as a great qb but his numbers don’t support that at all. I think when you take away Davis and the threat he posed Elway was a below average qb at best. I know ppl will disagree but go back and watch.. look at his completion percentages, yards per attempt.. he ranks near the bottom in all categories.

  23. it really doesnt matter which qb is better, matters which team goes further, trevor is not Denvers future

  24. For those of you denigrating Elway, keep in mind that the Broncos did make an effort to retain Brock. Meanwhile, per his agent’s instructions, Brock refused to communicate with Broncos’ coaches, teammates, and front office for two weeks following the Super Bowl when the Broncos were trying to find some common ground with Brock about staying. Brock’s off-the-cuff remarks during that time and the subsequent weeks are not immune from criticism either. He deserves some digs.

  25. Houston is 2 – 1. The Patriots looked horrible in a week four loss to the Chiefs on national television and everyone write thehem off. They went on to win the super bowl. I wouldn’t write off Houston just yet.

  26. willycents says:
    Sep 24, 2016 3:49 PM
    To look at it in another way, you are worth the amount to the team that they are paying you.
    Example: Osweiler…$18MM, Brady….$4MM per year.
    That indicates Osweiller is worth 4 1/2 times as much to the Texans as Brady is to the Patriots at this point in their careers.
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    This is what patsanoia does to those it afflicts. Example: It makes the worst sufferers post nonsense. In 2016 Brady will earn a base salary of $764,705 but received a bonus of $28,000,000. So while Brady has a cap hit of $13,764,705 he has dead money value of $40,764,705. The Pats valued him enough ‘at this point in his career’ to once again give him his cash up front while at the same time handing him a cap gun to hold at their temple.

  27. I love how it always relates back to the salary cap. Guess what genius? Don’t throw stones cause I guarantee your teams have cheated in some capacity. Dont believe me, post your teams and I’ll tell you how they did. Remember PEDs are cheating so do you really think your teams are squeaky clean? Let’s find out post your teams si I can pist their illegal activities

  28. Osweiler got his Super Bowl ring, and he is set for life if he is careful with his money and don’t throw it away. The losers are the Texans, who gave a huge contract to a player who has not proven himself yet. They had a chance to pick a franchise qb in the draft and they punted. Then they panicked when the journeyman qb they signed as free agents flopped.

  29. Elway made the right decision. He knew that Osweiler is no Peyton Manning, and he wasn’t going to overpay someone who may not even get his team to the playoffs and who will take up so much salary cap space tht there is nothing left for other good players Just look at Seattle. They overpay Midge Wilson and they cannot afford players like Russell Okung, who is protecting Denver quarterbacks now instead of the midget

  30. justsayin70 says:
    Sep 24, 2016 4:44 PM

    mmack66 says:
    Sep 24, 2016 3:32 PM
    pastabelly says:
    Sep 24, 2016 2:42 PM

    John Elway is truly a nasty human being.
    —————————-

    No kidding.

    The Donkeys wouldn’t have made it to the Super Bowl without Osweiler.

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    The Broncos would not have beaten the Chargers and secured home field advantage WITH Osweiler at QB in the second half of the Chargers’ game. He doesn’t make everyone around him better. Period.

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    Just more proof you didn’t even watch that game. Osweiler wasn’t the reason they were losing that game – his receivers couldn’t catch and they had multiple fumbles. Kubiak even said he just wanted to change things up to spark the team, not because Osweiler was at fault.

  31. goattoday says:
    Sep 25, 2016 1:10 PM

    Last four games at New England the Donks lost by 35, 10, 3 & 22. Too bad they didn’t have Brock!!

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    And yet they did have him when they beat the Pats twice last season.

  32. omeimontis says:
    Sep 25, 2016 5:04 AM

    Elway made the right decision. He knew that Osweiler is no Peyton Manning, and he wasn’t going to overpay someone who may not even get his team to the playoffs and who will take up so much salary cap space tht there is nothing left for other good players Just look at Seattle. They overpay Midge Wilson and they cannot afford players like Russell Okung, who is protecting Denver quarterbacks now instead of the midget

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    He didn’t make the decision, Osweiler did. He offered the same yearly salary and not as much guaranteed money. If he was so concerned about the salary cap, why would he do that?

  33. justsayin70 says:
    Sep 24, 2016 5:57 PM

    For those of you denigrating Elway, keep in mind that the Broncos did make an effort to retain Brock. Meanwhile, per his agent’s instructions, Brock refused to communicate with Broncos’ coaches, teammates, and front office for two weeks following the Super Bowl when the Broncos were trying to find some common ground with Brock about staying. Brock’s off-the-cuff remarks during that time and the subsequent weeks are not immune from criticism either. He deserves some digs.

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    More revisionist history – Osweiler stated on the record that the Broncos made no attempt to offer or even communicate with him until after he was offered the deal with the Texans. They went lower hoping he would stay with them, but he wanted to go elsewhere and did.

  34. So the Broncos can win without Peyton Manning and with a 7th round QB . It was the system and the coaching all along? LOL. Kubiak is now 8-2 without the noodle arm Peyton Manning. But Peyton got them into the right running plays last season. He was the reason they were so good and won the Super Bowl. LOL. Fans are such sheep.

  35. People forget that realistically this is a 2 year deal worth 36 million not 72 million over 4.. If Oswieler doesn’t work out after 2 seasons then the Texans cut bait and look for the next option. If he does then 72 mil over 4 years is great value at that position. This was the right move for the Texans who had plenty of cap room to make that deal and still do to sign or resign whoever they like. I like this move a lot more than trading a kings ransom of picks to move up to 1 or 2 and drafting a guy. Even if it’s Carson Wentz who let’s not forget, wouldn’t even be playing if Teddy Bridgewater doesn’t blow out his knee.

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