Week Nine Power Rankings

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1. Patriots (7-1; last week No. 1): If the offense is capable of scoring 41 points per game, they can trade Jamie Collins. And anyone else on the defense.

2. Cowboys (6-1; No. 2): The smartest thing the Cowboys ever did was focus on building a quality offensive line.

3. Broncos (6-2; No. 6): They’re far from dominant, but they’re good enough to be in the right place at the right time to qualify for another Super Bowl.

4. Raiders (6-2; No. 10): If they want to be taken seriously, they need a signature win. The next chance for one comes on Sunday night.

5. Falcons (5-3; No. 7): The Second Annual Midseason Swoon ended early.

6. Chiefs (5-2; No. 9): Alex Smith has a concussion. Unless he doesn’t. Unless he does. Unless he doesn’t.

7. Packers (4-3; No. 5): Every NFC contender should hope that the Packers don’t make it to the playoffs.

8. Steelers (4-3; No. 8): They need to get Ben back, sooner than later.

9. Seahawks (4-2-1; No. 4): The Seahawks should be thinking about giving Russell Wilson a week or two off in order to get him healthy for the playoff run. Or there won’t be one.

10. Vikings (5-2; No. 3): But for the presence of plenty of mediocre teams below them, the Vikings would have fallen on this list like a rock tied to an anchor in a sack full of cement blocks.

11. Texans (5-3; No. 16): They continue to win the ones they should, and lose the ones they should.

12. Washington (4-3-1; No. 12): They may be better than they were a year ago. The only problem is that the rest of the division is a lot better.

13. Eagles (4-3; No. 13): They’re better than expected, but still not nearly good enough.

14. Giants (4-3; No. 14): They’re better than expected, but still not nearly good enough.

15. Lions (4-4; No. 11): Two games in 18 days against Minnesota will go a long way toward determining whether the Lions really are any better than they’ve been.

16. Bills (4-4; No. 15): Sure, they lost. But Sunday’s game could be the moment on which a new trend emerged regarding the ritual of throwing specific things onto the field.

17. Buccaneers (3-4; No. 18): All those fans who didn’t sell their tickets to Raiders fans surely wish they did.

18. Bengals (3-4-1; No. 19): Years of free-agency losses and coaching promotions have caught up with the Bengals.

19. Titans (4-4; No. 23): Of all the teams in the AFC South, this is the one that could be best built to thrive in January.

20. Dolphins (3-4; No. 20): Check the schedule. This percolating team could be getting very hot, quickly.

21. Cardinals (3-4-1; No. 17): The window by all appearances has slammed shut.

22. Saints (3-4; No. 26): Quietly, the Saints are racking up victories and becoming more and more relevant.

23. Chargers (3-5; No. 21): The Chargers would be leading three or four other divisions.

24. Ravens (3-4; No. 24): If the Ravens ever are going to wake up, it needs to happen now.

25. Rams (3-4; No. 25): A division title isn’t out of the question, given how bad their division suddenly is.

26. Panthers (2-5; No. 27): At a time when they’ve been trying to turn the page on 2015, a back-to-the-future moment against Arizona may have down the trick.

27. Colts (3-5; No. 22): Chuck Pagano says Sunday’s game at Green Bay is a “defining moment” for the team. But we already know the definition of the term “crappy underachievers.”

28. Jets (3-5; No. 29): Maybe the offense should consist of a direct snap to Matt Forte on every play.

29. Bears (2-6; No. 31): Jay Cutler definitely wasn’t who Bears fans thought he was.

30. Jaguars (2-5; No. 28): “So I get paid for the rest of the year and I no longer have to run this crappy offense? Thanks!”

31. 49ers (1-6; No. 30): With a bizarre dispute emerging in Santa Clara, the 49ers somehow managed to lose in the bye week, too.

32. Browns (0-8; No. 32): There aren’t many/any obvious chances to win at least one game in the second half of the season.

126 responses to “Week Nine Power Rankings

  1. Zim cancelled his press conference today because of a “minor medical procedure.” Apparently, they’re taking the “go into hiding” approach to dealing with the very serious issues facing their team.

  2. Most if us understand that Power Rankings are just the opinions of those writing them and we don’t put much stock in them. That said, I can’t wait to see the purple meltdown now that the Vikings have dropped to 10 (below the Packers at 7).

  3. Hard to argue with placing the two one loss teams at 1 & 2 although the Cowboys were less than convincing against the Eagles and the case could be made the Broncos belong ahead of them. Packers are still too high and there’s bound to be some of the usual crying from the 12’s but a team that can’t score is fortunate to be where they are. The rest looks pretty good.

  4. I think it’s time to just exclude the 49ers and Browns from the power rankings entirely.

  5. Raiders at #4??? CAAAAAAN YOUUUUUUUUUU DIIIIIIIIIIIIG IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT (Warriors).

    I must admit, it makes me a little giddy to see it. Unfortunately, I also saw the game. I honestly thought they would drop a few spots in all the power rankings even with the win. We did everything we could to give this game away but just couldn’t execute at the end and somehow ended up with the win. I love the ranking, just not sure I can agree with it (obviously my PTSD is showing a little after the last 15 seasons).

    Derek Carr as MVP? He may not be the best QB in the league, but can any other team say they are so dependent on one individual player? Is that not the primary qualification for an MVP?

  6. A few weeks ago, I believe, you wrote that the rankings were based on who could beat who. Yet you have the Raiders above the Chiefs? You might want to fact check that.

  7. Patriots are the only elite team. It is obvious to everyone.

    Love how upset people are about the foundation being set in big D for the next 10 years. The comments on the articles just show people fear across the NFC. Hate Jerry all you want, hate the America’s team trademark all you want.

    This is great for the NFL

  8. The AFC Championship will likely come down to the annual Denver vs. New England regular season game just like the past two years. The team that wins that game to take home field advantage in the playoffs and will head to the Super Bowl.

    The Patriots have will benefit from having a much softer schedule in the perennially pathetic AFC East. The last AFC East team to make the playoffs other than New England was the New York Jets, led by Mark Sanchez. That streak won’t be ending this year either. “Sad!”

  9. 23. Chargers (3-5; No. 21): The Chargers would be leading three or four other divisions.
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    Huh? Every division leader has more wins than the chargers, every division leader has a winning record. You’re not making sense.

  10. Really florio? Eagles make us look pathetic last week, and yet you have us ranked higher? Where’s the logic? Eagles should be higher than we are! Eagles should be 7 and move everyone else down a slot.

  11. “With a bizarre dispute emerging in Santa Clara, the 49ers somehow managed to lose in the bye week, too.”

    Lolz now that’s funny.

    ” If they want to be taken seriously, they need a signature win. The next chance for one comes on Sunday night.”

    If the Raiders bet Denver that will change the landscape in the AFC.

    ” Sunday’s game could be the moment on which a new trend emerged regarding the ritual of throwing specific things onto the field.”

    Gives a new meaning to “12 men on the field” lolz

  12. Would love to hear your justification for the Raiders leaping over the Chiefs.
    A better one will be how you justify ranking the loser of next Sunday nights game above the Chiefs.

  13. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:26 PM

    Most if us understand that Power Rankings are just the opinions of those writing them and we don’t put much stock in them. That said, I can’t wait to see the purple meltdown now that the Vikings have dropped to 10 (below the Packers at 7).
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    I actually prefer being the underdog.

  14. As a Vikings fan I’m ok with this ranking. They have to prove they belong at the top and didn’t do that at all these last two weeks. I hope they show up against the lions who are suddenly better than expected… packers are still, as always, ranked too high.

  15. I get the Eagles comment but are the G-men really better than we expected? After spending a ton in the offseason, they were picked by most to at least compete for the division. They look very average after 7 games.

  16. davekva72 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:35 PM
    23. Chargers (3-5; No. 21): The Chargers would be leading three or four other divisions.
    Huh? Every division leader has more wins than the chargers, every division leader has a winning record. You’re not making sense.

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    That ship really sailed over your head. He’s talking about how the AFC West is a brutal conference, which has hurt SD’s record and put them at the bottom of the division. So far, San Diego has had to play Denver twice, Oakland once, and KC once. At the halfway point, those three teams are a combined 17-6 and have lost a grand total of 4 games outside of the AFC West.

  17. Colts entry is hilarious (and, it should be said, would probably have been deleted if one of us posted it in that article).

  18. Raiders over the Chiefs? Apparently you must have missed the beat down that the Chiefs gave the Raiders at the black hole. These are a joke, everyone will be jumping off the Faiders bandwagon by week 14 the Faiders will be 8-6 and tied with the Chargers for 3rd place in the AFC West. The Raiders are the only team with a winning record that has given up more points than they have scored how can you even put them in the top 10? That’s not power.

  19. maust1013 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:38 PM

    1-Patriots
    2-Broncos
    3-Cowboys
    4-Chiefs
    5-Raiders
    6-Falcons
    7-Steelers
    8-Vikings
    9-Seahawks
    10-Packers
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    Broncos are not a top 5 team anymore, anybody trashing Dallas because it took OT to beat a really good Eagles team (A Division Game).

    1 Patriots.
    2 Dallas
    3 Chiefs
    4 Eagles
    5 Raiders
    6 Broncos
    7 Falcons
    8 Steeler (with Ben)
    9. Seahawks
    10 Texans/GB

  20. So the Raiders get completely curb stomped at home a few weeks ago by the Chiefs, barely win a pathetic game against an awful Bucs team where they commit the most penalties in NFL history, and are somehow two spots higher than KC?

    So after the Chiefs beat them 33-7 in a few weeks at Arrowhead, will they rise even further? Is that like, a thing you do?

  21. The Broncos are doubtful to win their own division let alone be a threat in the AFC. They escaped the Chargers and there is a great chance they lose to the Raiders this weekend. No way they should be ranked #3.

  22. stealthjunk says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:34 PM
    The AFC Championship will likely come down to the annual Denver vs. New England regular season game just like the past two years. The team that wins that game to take home field advantage in the playoffs and will head to the Super Bowl.

    The Patriots have will benefit from having a much softer schedule in the perennially pathetic AFC East. The last AFC East team to make the playoffs other than New England was the New York Jets, led by Mark Sanchez. That streak won’t be ending this year either. “Sad!”
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    First of all, the game in Denver will not be the deciding factor. Not to mention the Denver offense can’t score from the 20.

    As for the “softer schedule”… As far as schedules go, they schedule is about as tough as it can be these day. They play Pit, Cincy, Balt, Seattle, and the Bills were looking good until the Pats beat them down. The league is what it is.

  23. stealthjunk says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:34 PM

    The Patriots have will benefit from having a much softer schedule in the perennially pathetic AFC East.

    You need to go back and check facts. Last year the AFC East had more total wins than any other division in football.

    In 2014 only 2 divisions had more wins that the AFC East.

    Maybe you need to look up the definition of “perennially”.

  24. This season sucks. Besides the Patriots, the teams are so close to parity most games are all decided by which team gets the bad calls from the refs. You could pretty much flip the records of everyone outside the top and bottom 5 with sketchy calls going the other way.

  25. stealthjunk says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:34 PM
    The Patriots have will benefit from having a much softer schedule in the perennially pathetic AFC East. The last AFC East team to make the playoffs other than New England was the New York Jets, led by Mark Sanchez. That streak won’t be ending this year either. “Sad!”
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    The weak AFCE comment is a clear indicator of someone that needs to find a way to diminish NE and just regurgitates what they read elsewhere. The AFC East and West were tied for most wins in the NFL last year. The AFCE has averaged more wins per team than any other for the past decade and for the last three years in a row NE has gone .667 in division and .800 outside of it.

  26. The Patriots have will benefit from having a much softer schedule in the perennially pathetic AFC East. The last AFC East team to make the playoffs other than New England was the New York Jets, led by Mark Sanchez. That streak won’t be ending this year either. “Sad!”
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    Interesting comment. Your Steelers lost to the only two AFCE teams they played this year in the Dolphins and Patriots. Also, the AFCN is pathetic this year save for Pitt. The Browns, Ravens, and Bengals all stink. Try to keep up.

  27. For the Bengals this year, it seems like half of the starters are just clocking in and clocking out.

  28. Bradford had a couple of decent games. But the last two weeks he has reverted to Sam Bradford again. He is not a very good QB. Eagles scammed the Vikes on that one.

  29. Raiders lost to the Chiefs in Oakland and barely beat a horrible bucs team, in overtime, while committing the most penalties EVER…

    Is your love for them tied to their left wing fans? Are you and Oakland/Las Vegas in cahoots, like CNN and the Clintons? Because common sense says no football reasoning makes sense to put them higher than the Chiefs. You know, since the Chiefs beat them, on their home turf, convincingly…

  30. 12. Washington (4-3-1; No. 12): They may be better than they were a year ago. The only problem is that the rest of the division is a lot better.

    13. Eagles (4-3; No. 13): They’re better than expected, but still not nearly good enough.

    14. Giants (4-3; No. 14): They’re better than expected, but still not nearly good enough.
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    Not that I disagree with these rankings, but how do you rank the Redskins above 2/3 of their division opponents and explain it by saying ‘the only problem is that the rest of the division is a lot better’

  31. I recall a lot of Vikings trolls hitting the Packers for winning against the Bears since they’re an awful team and to not take the Pack seriously – now the Vikings trolls have a lot of ‘splaining to do, dropping 2 games back to back with that soft white underbelly fully exposed – teams will feast on that O line and the defense, still good, has its warts too. As usual the chants of Skol are now once again drowned in tears of sorrow, such early promise dashed against the rocks of reality. More pain to come

  32. When you look at the Bronco’s victory at Tampa compared to the Raiders victory at Tampa, take into account the Raiders are undisciplined and had a record amount of penalties plus the Raiders being 0-2 at home you have to give the Broncos the edge in the primtime matchup on Sunday night. If the Broncos can avoid the silly offensive line pre-snap and holding penalties, the Broncos will be victorious and continue to hold onto the AFC West while the other teams fight for 2nd place and the Raiders fans will recognize they aren’t who they think they are.

  33. I’m not buying the Raiders yet… You can’t go very far with a horrible defense, and NONE of their wins have come against good teams. They are picking on poor defenses. Huge game Sunday night to determine if they’re overrated or not.

  34. There is something that has been working better than “Power rankings” for decades.

    It’s called “Standings”. you know based on teams W-L records.

  35. Raiders have been lucky winning at the last second vs the , Saints, Tenn, Ravens, SD, and TB…all those teams dont even have a winning record

    the two teams they lost to? ATL and KC, both have winning records

  36. The Bears dominated every aspect of the game last night, yet they are ranked 29th while the Vikings are top 10? I suppose it’ll take a few more weeks to iron out the rankings.

    At least the Vikings won the Reggie Jackson trophy.

  37. jbaxt says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:19 PM

    Raiders lost to the Chiefs in Oakland and barely beat a horrible bucs team, in overtime, while committing the most penalties EVER…

    Is your love for them tied to their left wing fans? Are you and Oakland/Las Vegas in cahoots, like CNN and the Clintons? Because common sense says no football reasoning makes sense to put them higher than the Chiefs. You know, since the Chiefs beat them, on their home turf, convincingly…
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    So then the Chiefs should be ranked below the Texans and Steelers right? You know, since the Chiefs lost to them

  38. dawiz2008 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:28 PM

    How did raiders jump chiefs? Bias much? Record for most penalties against horrible bucs? Negates whole ranking chart
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    Dude. Carr threw for 500 yards and 4 touchdowns. That’s how.

  39. That Bronco’s OL will be the downfall of the team. How many years do Kubiak and Elway need to build a decent running game? That was supposed to be Kubiak’s forte.

  40. “Bradford had a couple of decent games. But the last two weeks he has reverted to Sam Bradford again. He is not a very good QB. Eagles scammed the Vikes on that one.”

    A lot of it is not his fault. Hard to throw/complete a pass when you are on your back or running from the defense.

  41. tqaztec says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:34 PM

    The Vikings new theme song is “Roller coaster”
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    Actually, that’s the NFL’s theme song. If your team hasn’t experienced it yet, it will.

  42. Oakland doesn’t have a signature win? What? Raider Nation claims their epic win over the powerful Bucs was HUGE! The team is making a victor banner to honor it as we speak.

  43. davekva72 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:35 PM

    23. Chargers (3-5; No. 21): The Chargers would be leading three or four other divisions.
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    Huh? Every division leader has more wins than the chargers, every division leader has a winning record. You’re not making sense.
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    What he is saying that there are 3 or 4 divisions where if the the Chargers were members of those divisions, they would likely be #1.

  44. Whoever makes these rankings clearly has favorites and teams he hates. I really don’t understand the disrespect for the Eagles. In consecutive weeks, they handed the Vikings their first loss and lost in overtime at Dallas. I guess it’s true that if you lose two games in a row, you can never be considered a good team again no matter what you do.

  45. The fact you think the Giants are the 4th best in the NFC east is laughable….Both lines are getting better every game, Wentz gonna be running scared this week

  46. maiphatdong says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:44 PM

    Raiders have been lucky winning at the last second vs the , Saints, Tenn, Ravens, SD, and TB…all those teams dont even have a winning record

    the two teams they lost to? ATL and KC, both have winning records

    Other than the Chargers, those teams would have winning records if they had beat Oakland. SD would be .500.

  47. Oakland did lose to KC and Atlanta, but they are 6-2 and have 5 road wins. 4 may be a little high in meaningless power rankings, but we’ll get a better idea of what they and Denver are made of Sunday night.

  48. Funny only 2 years ago fans were saying to other teams “You only beat the Raiders”, now they are questioning the teams who the Raiders have beaten. Funny how that works

  49. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:26 PM
    Most if us understand that Power Rankings are just the opinions of those writing them and we don’t put much stock in them. That said, I can’t wait to see the purple meltdown now that the Vikings have dropped to 10 (below the Packers at 7).
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    I’m good with the Vikings at 10.

    And not melting down here, but I don’t see the Packers as a better than the Vikings. The Vikings are still 1 and a half up on the Packers in the North.

    And for the Packer homers saying “well we at least beat the Bears” crap. Packers beat the Bears with their 3rd team QB. But Cabbage did call it- he acknowledge the Packers knocking Hoyer out would hurt the Vikings due to Cutler being put back in.

  50. connfyoozed says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:49 PM

    What divisions would the Chargers possibly be leading???? NCAA Division II????
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    AFC South
    AFC North
    NFC South

  51. mplpkr says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:28 PM

    I recall a lot of Vikings trolls hitting the Packers for winning against the Bears since they’re an awful team and to not take the Pack seriously – now the Vikings trolls have a lot of ‘splaining to do,
    ____________

    Not much to explain- surprised you can’t figure this out on your own. Packers had Bears with Barkley vs. Bears w. Cutler against MN. But go ahead and puff your chest out.

  52. magikskillz says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:44 PM
    Surprised you didn’t put the seahawks and packers in the top 5.
    Also the 49ers and Browns are too high. Bama would crush em.
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    The Alabama QB wouldn’t complete more than 8-10 passes vs any NFL team. He works in their system, but would be awful vs NFL teams playing real defense. I don’t think Alabama would put up more than 3 points vs any team in the NFL.

  53. phinatic29 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:39 PM
    There is something that has been working better than “Power rankings” for decades.

    It’s called “Standings”. you know based on teams W-L records.
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    Obviously you haven’t been watching your team win much as a Dolphins fan.

    Explain why the top overall seed doesn’t win the superbowl every season with that logic?

    Giants won the superbowl as the last team to make the playoffs.

  54. Don’t scream at the thermometer because you don’t like the temperature, Pats fans. New England faced a whopping total of two AFC East playoff teams in the past 10 seasons (the 2009 and 2010 Jets led by Mark Sanchez) and they went 2-2 in those games. The Bills last made the playoffs 17 years ago and the Dolphins last made it 15 years ago. None of these teams will make the playoffs this year. So by any stretch of the imagination, New England has faced AFC East competition over the past decade that was about as “elite” as Joe Flacco, and that’s being generous considering that even he has won a Super Bowl.

    Look, that does not mean the Pats suck or suggest that they would lose in other divisions. On the contrary, they have been great and have made the AFC East’s overall win/loss stats look respectable. It only means that New England’s path to the playoffs, which only twice has had a playoff team in their own division, is easier and has helped lead to better seeding.

  55. “This season sucks. Besides the Patriots, the teams are so close to parity most games are all decided by which team gets the bad calls from the refs.”

    Welcome to what Goodell and the owners want. Its the future unless those of us not watching most of the games anymore keep doing so and drive the ratings down to the point Goodell and his cronies are gone.

    He wants 32 mediocre teams that mostly have 8-8 records with a handful at 10-6 or 9-7 and a few at 7-9 and 6-10.

  56. todoubled says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:28 PM
    When you look at the Bronco’s victory at Tampa compared to the Raiders victory at Tampa, take into account the Raiders are undisciplined and had a record amount of penalties plus the Raiders being 0-2 at home you have to give the Broncos the edge in the primtime matchup on Sunday night. If the Broncos can avoid the silly offensive line pre-snap and holding penalties, the Broncos will be victorious and continue to hold onto the AFC West while the other teams fight for 2nd place and the Raiders fans will recognize they aren’t who they think they are.
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    Logic Makes no sense. By your logic we should be able to beat you. You know, since we beat the chargers already….

  57. Hard to believe that year after year of the Patriots running the exact same plays, not one opposing team can figure out how to slow them down. It’s embarrassing to watch.

  58. I’ve always said that power rankings are fun but don’t mean much. So while it’s ‘nice’ to see the Raiders at #4, what will actually please me is if they’re in the top 6 in the AFC (i.e. secured a playoff spot) after week 17.

  59. stealthjunk says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:48 PM

    Don’t scream at the thermometer because you don’t like the temperature, Pats fans. New England faced a whopping total of two AFC East playoff teams in the past 10 seasons (the 2009 and 2010 Jets led by Mark Sanchez) and they went 2-2 in those games. The Bills last made the playoffs 17 years ago and the Dolphins last made it 15 years ago. None of these teams will make the playoffs this year. So by any stretch of the imagination, New England has faced AFC East competition over the past decade that was about as “elite” as Joe Flacco, and that’s being generous considering that even he has won a Super Bowl.
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    How often do teams from the same division meet each other in the playoffs?

    What is Pittsburgh’s excuse?

  60. bahhh25 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:35 PM
    The Giants will win the super bowl.

    joshgordonsbong says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:14 PM
    The fact you think the Giants are the 4th best in the NFC east is laughable….Both lines are getting better every game, Wentz gonna be running scared this week
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    Fellow Giants fan here and, although the Giants are the one team no one wants to see in the playoffs, they have to get there first, and it won’t be this year.

    The Giants haven’t beat the Eagles since Oct 27, 2013, and the Eagles are 9-3 against the Giants since 2010. Based on how the Gmen offense is clicking, I don’t see a win this week either.

    Thanks Jerry Reese for taking a 2-time SB team and destroying it.

  61. Tis Pro Football… it means these are professionals, the best in the world, masters of their craft… This league is terrible, the Broncos are 3rd on this list and they are not a VERY good team, they are a good team. NFL you have a quality control issue and it needs to be fixed… My Giants are 4-3 and might as well be 0-7 cause they look awful, i can’t watch a full game. I never thought id say this but i don’t wanna watch anymore. Its not fun. Rating are down and lots of reasons, take your pick, but the main reason… the elephant un the room… is your product sucks right now. Fix it !!! increase the cap
    have a developmental league, full time refs.

  62. And why are the Packers always so high? They are not good. They are not terrible, but they are not good. Stop already with this Rodgers man crush.

  63. mnvikes1961 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:28 PM

    The Vikings are still 1 and a half up on the Packers in the North.

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    Thats optimistic Minnesota math.

    Another way to look at it is the Packers control their destiny. A Packers win over the Vikings at Lambeau in week 16, all other things being equal going forward, puts the Packers ahead, given the Vikings untimely extra division loss.

  64. jjackwagon says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:40 PM

    Would love to hear your justification for the Raiders leaping over the Chiefs.
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    As a Raiders fan, I hate to say this, but you are right. Until the Raider get a quality win, one should not consider ranking them over KC. For that matter, neither Denver nor Oakland should be ranked over Atlanta. Now if the Raiders beat Denver on Sunday, then you can at least think about it. I’m thrilled about the way the Raiders are playing and think that if they get Mario Edwards Jr back (and have no further major injuries) they could well be the best team in the division by the end of the year, but you have to judge teams by their records now.

    In any case, at the midway point, 3 of the top 6 teams play in the AFC West, and the Chargers are a couple of bad bounces away from being recognized as a top 10 – 15 team. It’s a lot like being an SEC fan: great teams, great players, and REALLY great games

  65. stealthjunk says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:48 PM
    Don’t scream at the thermometer because you don’t like the temperature, Pats fans. New England faced a whopping total of two AFC East playoff teams in the past 10 seasons (the 2009 and 2010 Jets led by Mark Sanchez) and they went 2-2 in those games. The Bills last made the playoffs 17 years ago and the Dolphins last made it 15 years ago. None of these teams will make the playoffs this year. So by any stretch of the imagination, New England has faced AFC East competition over the past decade that was about as “elite” as Joe Flacco, and that’s being generous considering that even he has won a Super Bowl.

    +++++++++++

    You are the one failing to come up with anything to bolster their argument. It’s interesting you disparage the AFCE when NE owns the AFCN. 2 division losses in 6 games, 2 to the rest of the field in 10 each of the last 3 years although to be fair at least one of them per year may be a product of coasting into the playoffs. Not facing an in division playoff opponent is a direct function of those teams having to play in NE’s division not the other way around, More often than not NE is the reason the other teams in the division do not make the playoffs, losses to the Pats kept the Jets and most likely the Bills out of the playoffs last year. Including 2016 Brady is now .781 against the AFCE and .767 vs the rest of the AFC, a .014 difference. Considering they only play the top teams in 2 of the other 3 AFC divisions each year the AFC numbers are particularly damning, imagine how much better they would be if NE was playing the cellar dwellers in those divisions twice a year

    NE most often wins their division with the same type of in house record as other division winners and the seeding usually comes down to tie breakers. Miami last made the playoffs in ’08 not ’01. Numbers don’t lie but people do

  66. I’m surprised I didn’t see a trade by the Vikings for some OL. If they don’t drastically improve on the OL we won’t win another game all year.

    At least we can put to bed the claim that it was AP getting old that was the cause of his poor ypc in the first 1.5 games. Mckinnon, Asiata and Hillman haven’t done any better.

    Vikes will have to switch to a 4-wide system with a TE helper and resort to 2-3 second quick hits from the shotgun the rest of the year if they don’t want Bradford ending up on the IR.

    Only one to benefit from this is Matt Kalil, he just got so much job security.

  67. johngaltwho says:
    Nov 1, 2016 3:26 PM
    mnvikes1961 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:28 PM

    The Vikings are still 1 and a half up on the Packers in the North.

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    Thats optimistic Minnesota math.

    Another way to look at it is the Packers control their destiny. A Packers win over the Vikings at Lambeau in week 16, all other things being equal going forward, puts the Packers ahead, given the Vikings untimely extra division loss.
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    Faulty assumptions. If all things being equal mean they win at the same rate than the vikings would finish at either 12-4 and 11-5 while the Packers would be at 10-6 or 9-7. If you assume both teams are going to “win-out” except that one Lambaue game for the Vikes then you are delusional.

    More likely the Vikings either don’t fix their problems any time soon and will be moving up in the draft to grab OL with their first 3 picks, or this loss lights a fire under them and they get their crap together.

    Either way, less than haflway through the season is way too early to be talking about “controlling destiny” of any kind, by anyone…except maybe the Patriots.

  68. Washington better than last year but the rest of the division is better….so the only team in the rest of the division you put ahead of them was the Cowboys?

  69. Between Dak, Elliot, and that o-line, Dallas has quietly built a really good team from the ground up – solid foundation for the future. No surprise they are running away with the division.

    For the rest of the NFC East, like my Gmen, just stuck in the morass. They’re all the same, just different uniforms.

    This sucks.

  70. With the way the Saints are playing now they realistically rank 15th. After beating Denver they’ll be well in the top 10.

  71. 28. Jets
    29. Bears
    30. Alabama
    31.Michigan
    32. Jacksonville
    33. 49ers
    34. Clemson
    35. Cleveland

  72. 28. Jets
    29. Bears
    30. Alabama
    31.Michigan
    32. Jacksonville
    33. 49ers
    34. Clemson
    35. Cleveland
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    No college team would ever beat an NFL team, much less score 10 points

  73. 1heatedtoombrayduh says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:55 PM
    todoubled says:
    Nov 1, 2016 1:28 PM
    When you look at the Bronco’s victory at Tampa compared to the Raiders victory at Tampa, take into account the Raiders are undisciplined and had a record amount of penalties plus the Raiders being 0-2 at home you have to give the Broncos the edge in the primtime matchup on Sunday night. If the Broncos can avoid the silly offensive line pre-snap and holding penalties, the Broncos will be victorious and continue to hold onto the AFC West while the other teams fight for 2nd place and the Raiders fans will recognize they aren’t who they think they are.
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    Logic Makes no sense. By your logic we should be able to beat you. You know, since we beat the chargers already….

    5 0
    …………………………………

    my logic says we blew out the bucs in Tampa and you squeaked out a win being the same old undisciplined Raiders team, plus you’re 0-2 at home. That logic would suggest that the Bronco’s will beat you at home.

  74. I would like to think my Panthers are really back in the top 20, but I’m OK with the wait-and-see approach.

    Not sure we will learn anything against LA this week. Rams have no O-line whatsoever, so we should get plenty of pass rush. On the other hand, Tampa doesn’t have an O-line either and they ran for 5,000 yards against us, so will we be able to stop Gurley? (He’s on my fantasy team, but I’d trade a fantasy win for a Panthers win every day.) The only thing really good about the Rams is their D-line, and our O-line has been a disaster while Oher has been out. Do they get 20 sacks on us, or does Cam get short passes off and Greg Olsen has a field day? Something tells me it’s going to be one of them classic 14-13 games.

  75. The raiders are at 4, after the Chiefs completely crushed them in every aspect of the game. At their own dump. They don’t have a single win over a decent team. It’s like watching all the Cubs love, without the actual success.

    Hilarious!

  76. How would the Power rankings stack up …
    Effects of a new type of bounty ball…
    Quarterback per TD – intercepts
    O-line gets per Fewer sacks
    And a special contract clause for QBacks (RG3) no lay no pay no contract.
    Browns should have snatched up a QB during the draft or signed a new coach and Colin Kap-kneebender.

  77. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:28 PM
    pardonmyjake says:
    Nov 1, 2016 12:23 PM

    the patriots are on another level
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Agreed.

    ~Not a Pats fan~
    ———————————————————–
    Until they play the BRONCOS!
    And I am definitely NOT A PATS FAN!

  78. Not sure why people think the Packers are too high. An injury-plagued Pack team went on the road and took one of the best teams in the NFC down to the wire.

  79. SammyBradfridge
    As a Vikings fan I’m ok with this ranking. They have to prove they belong at the top and didn’t do that at all these last two weeks. I hope they show up against the lions who are suddenly better than expected… packers are still, as always, ranked too high.
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    That’s the difference between the Patriots and other teams. It makes no difference to them one way or the other where their placed in these sort of things. You put em on the top and they’ll say, that’s fine; bring it on! You put em down below other teams and they’ll say the same thing, that’s fine; bring it on!
    They don’t need the crutch of being the underdog and they wear high expectations like a comfortable suit. The only psychological chink in their armor is Mile High in Denver.

  80. As a Bucs fan, I watched the whole Raiders game, and have to say, if not for the penalties they would have won by 3 touchdowns, and Carr would have had 650 yds instead of a mere 500. If they can get some discipline and maturity, look out.

  81. Well said jbraider, well said.

    If the AFC West doesn’t beat each other up too much it is looking like all of the top three could be in the playoffs this year. And that would be special. They are already looking like the best division in the NFL.

  82. Packers would lose to #8-15 on this list…they already lost to #10…Vikings will be back on top February 5th and the end of the day.

  83. Warning to the rest of the league, stop throwing dildos at the Patriots. Not a good strategy, creative, but if it continues the second best team in the league’s ranking will be 10 and the last 41. That’s right there will be 9 open spaces between the Patriots and next ranked team.

    Buffalo, stay classy.

  84. johngaltwho says:
    Nov 1, 2016 3:26 PM
    mnvikes1961 says:
    Nov 1, 2016 2:28 PM

    The Vikings are still 1 and a half up on the Packers in the North.

    ————————————————————–

    Thats optimistic Minnesota math.

    Another way to look at it is the Packers control their destiny. A Packers win over the Vikings at Lambeau in week 16, all other things being equal going forward, puts the Packers ahead, given the Vikings untimely extra division loss.
    ——————————————————–
    only a delusional packers fan would think about controlling their own destiny when there team is 8-9 in their last 17 games

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