Tom Brady laughs off Reggie Wayne calling him a cheater

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has reached such a state of zen, that even a former teammate calling him a cheater doesn’t ruffle him.

Via Mike Reiss of ESPN.com, Brady responded philosophically when asked about comments made by longtime Colts wideout (and five-minute Patriot) Reggie Wayne.

Wayne said that Brady should be ineligible for the MVP this year “because he was caught cheating,” but Brady had nothing but nice things to say during his weekly appearance on WEEI.

“I don’t know what Reggie said or anything, but I liked being with Reggie,” Brady said. “I actually had a lot of great conversations with him. Played against him for a long time; he’s a Hall of Famer. I always wish Reggie the best. He was a great player.”

When the hosts informed him that Wayne called him a cheater, Brady laughed.

“Well, I still think he’s a great player, and it doesn’t change the experience I had with him when he was here,” Brady said. “I think there have been a lot of people who have said things over the years that I disagree with, but I try to get up every day and do the best I can do.

“You give everyone else your power when you start reacting to everything they say. I wouldn’t change places with anybody.”

Brady has taken plenty of shots over the course of his career, but has managed to stay above the fray, seldom showing that anything bothers him.

Except Roger Goodell, of course. Brady’s clearly sticking it to the league by proxy this year, which has put him in the MVP mix despite missing four games because of #DeflateGate.

163 responses to “Tom Brady laughs off Reggie Wayne calling him a cheater

  1. Your use of the word “Former teammate” offends everyone in Patriot nation. He has neither the heart or courage to be a real Patriot.

  2. The man even answers questions with class and dignity that other people wouldnt know how to answer and would just make fools of themselves.!!!!! Way to go TB12…..Just keep winning when the rest of the teams are eliminated and force them to watch you!!!! Karma 101

  3. George Costanza says “Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    This is Tom’s approach to his cheating. It’s not cheating if you believe it isn’t.

  4. Reggie Wayne should shut his mouth if they are cheaters why did you try to play with them? I like Reggie but you couldn’t even play in New England don’t give me “it wasn’t fun” most jobs aren’t fun you should be working hard and that’s what the patriots do. Not to mention the colts pumping in crowd noise in 07 AGAINST THE PATRIOTS. Reggie be glad the patriots tipped you off you were going to be cut so you could retire instead of being cut from the team.

  5. The entire country knows you’re a cheater, Tom, so I guess you may as well laugh anyway.

    Two first round picks and a 4th due to cheating that you were directly involved with (deflategate) or that you were the beneficiary of (spygate).

    Every year these dirtbags have won a SB it’s been tainted by some form of cheating. And those are just the publicized ones we know about.

  6. How he takes the high road after all of this, I have no idea.

    And, Reggie Wayne is a moron. His own QB pumped PEDs, for god knows how long, and committed sexual assault, yet he’s still believing serial liar Goodell at the same time. lmao

    Looks like it will take Brady’s autobiography, along with BB’s, to out Goodell’s corruption from Park Ave.

  7. Some people will say that Brady’s comments are based in arrogance or gamesmanship.

    Maybe so. I don’t know.

    But in a now-bygone era of sports, we used to call these kinds of statements “good sportsmanship.”

    I’m just showing my age here, but it’s sad that those days are gone and that such a display of good sportsmanship will receive nothing but scorn, ridicule, and derision.

  8. So to be a host of espn or nfl network you have to kiss goodells boots? C’mon reggie, you played with peyton and we all know his heads way tooo large

  9. jjackwagon says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:46 AM
    George Costanza says “Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    This is Tom’s approach to his cheating. It’s not cheating if you believe it isn’t.

    —————————

    Actually the correct way that applies to your stance would be to say the NFL did not lie if you believe it.

  10. I don’t think he’s playing great because “he’s trying to stick to Goodell.” That’s dumb. He’s just playing great… at age 39…

  11. Shows the class Tom Brady has over other players that are burning with jealousy. It has become laughable when you hear people calling him a cheater. Reggie Wayne was never the elite level player that Brady is.

  12. Spygate… That’s the reason deflategate will never truly go away. Let that be a lesson kids, when you’re branded a cheater, it’s hard to deny any other accusations.

  13. jjackwagon says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:46 AM

    George Costanza says “Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    This is Tom’s approach to his cheating. It’s not cheating if you believe it isn’t.
    —————————

    It’s not cheating if you believe it is, either.

    The evidence is overwhelming that the Patriots are just better than most teams, and that the ball deflation accusations were nothing more than made up claptrap.

  14. It’s not that big of a deal. Technically because Brady was suspended and by default a cheater. I do not agree that he is but this is what the NFL created. So technically, Wayne is not wrong and if it’s his opinion that Brady shouldn’t be considered that’s his right. However, the fact that the alleged cheating happened in 2014 and that he served his penalty, there is no reason he shouldn’t be considered. And for that, Wayne is an idiot just trying make himself relevant. again.

  15. Standard Tom Shady behavior. I remember when he did that charity deal and the guy on the stage asked him directly if he cheated, all he did was turn to the audience and say “What do you think?” Never admit anything they might catch you in a lie on later.

  16. “You give everyone else your power when you start reacting to everything they say. I wouldn’t change places with anybody.”

    And there’s probably not a single one of his detractors that wouldn’t change places with him. It’s mind over matter. Brady doesn’t mind because the words of others simply do not matter, only the numbers on the scoreboard do. I’m not a Pats fan but if you’re a football fan you should be a Brady fan. Like Montana or Barry Sanders he transcends the normal uniform bias

  17. Reggie Whine quit after 5 minutes with the Patriots because “it’s too hard and he wasn’t having fun anymore”.He’s got a losers mentality and work ethic.

  18. Wayne has L.A.ME.S (Look At Me Syndrome)

    He is clearly looking for the spotlight any way he can now that he is ‘in the media’.

  19. hoosierhandicapper says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:55 AM
    The entire country knows you’re a cheater, Tom, so I guess you may as well laugh anyway.

    Two first round picks and a 4th due to cheating that you were directly involved with (deflategate) or that you were the beneficiary of (spygate).

    Every year these dirtbags have won a SB it’s been tainted by some form of cheating. And those are just the publicized ones we know about.

    The problem with crybabies like you who say he “cheated”
    Because of deflategate is you can’t explain why he is playing so well
    With “properly inflated football

    Cheating would mean he gained a advantage
    What was the advantage?
    How do you explain how well he has done since the NFL started monitoring the footballs?

    #justanothercrybaby

  20. Much like Revis, even when he had a Patriots uniform on , he never was a Patriot……..seasoned lifelong fans like me will understand my feeling……..

  21. Obviously, a player who couldn’t learn the Patriot’s play book because it was above his head, would also not understand 7th grade science. The science, that PROVES there was no tampering , therefore no cheating.
    What a clown!

  22. OMG, you all gushing over Brady while the simple question was about someone calling him, and I might accurately add, a CHEATER, as so many former NFL QBs have…give me a break!

  23. The one thing the Patriots have taught everyone is they just suck unless they have illegal game tape and use deflated footballs.

    Proof is in the pudding and they flat out stink this year. In fact they have stunk since 2007.

    There record of 112 and 32 (wining 78% of their games) proves they can’t win without shenanigans.

    In fact they are Roger Goodells public enemy #1 and well all know that Roger Goodell only stands up for the right and just of the world. Roger Goodell would never be on the wrong side of a scandal. Show me one time where Goodell “got it wrong.” Never happens.

  24. George Costanza says “Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    This is Tom’s approach to his cheating. It’s not cheating if you believe it isn’t.
    __________________________________________

    Actually, his approach (in addition to the approaches of the other mindless trolls) is its not cheating because the evidence and pure common sense support no cheating.

  25. “Has he been caught cheating?”

    No. He has been accused of “being generally aware of” some alleged equipment violations which science conclusively demonstrates never took place. He, and the team, have been punished for being too successful over the last 15 years, and for not falling back into mediocrity when over-punished for a minor, insignificant rules violation 7 years earlier…

  26. Sounds Reggie’s still miffed that the Patriots actually expected him to work hard and try to make the team, rather than just hand him a roster spot.

    Soft, soft, soft.

  27. I am not a Brady lover, but admire him for his prowess as maybe the best QB in NFL history. You have to wish your team’s players handled such situations as Mr. Brady did on this one.

  28. no sour grapes there, litttle reggie spent a career getting beat by the pats and then tried to make it on the pats team, he lasted three minuted cause he couldnt handle the patriot way

    the biggest pats haters are all guys who git consistently beat by the pats

  29. jchipwood says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:10 AM
    Has he been caught cheating? Yes. So is Wayne right? Yes.

    Don’t understand whats so hard understanding the situation.
    ======================================

    actually you are wrong, he was suspended for cheating but never caught, and in fact the hard science (lol) of the wells report clearly states that it needed to make several assumptions in order to deem brady guilty.

  30. Goodell and the League are really out to get NE. I mean look at the favorable treatment Seattle is getting by playing at home on Monday Night and and then flying cross country to play Sunday Night against a team coming off a bye. Roger must go – how dare he not give Seattle a Monday night road game and let them skate by not playing at 10am Pacific on Sunday. He hates NE, just hates them!! Belichick got suspended one year for cheating and Sean Payton got NOTHING for being a glorified offensive coordinator with the title head coach when the defense had a bounty system. Oh wait, you mean Belichick got NOTHING and Payton was suspended a year? how could that happen if the League is out to get NE??

  31. The entire country knows you’re a cheater, Tom, so I guess you may as well laugh anyway.

    Two first round picks and a 4th due to cheating that you were directly involved with (deflategate) or that you were the beneficiary of (spygate).

    Every year these dirtbags have won a SB it’s been tainted by some form of cheating. And those are just the publicized ones we know about.
    _________________________________________

    I still love the daily “everything you have ever done is tainted”. Its such a lazy, played out excuse so fans can feel better about their pathetic teams. Take the above for example. Cites two instances of “cheating” over a 15+ year period of domination……one that actually never happened. And when the argument is failing, as it always does, its easy to just throw out the “and that’s all we know about”.

    Why do trolls continue to claim the entire country thinks he is a cheater? If there is one thing this entire ordeal has taught us its that the NFL are the biggest lying scumbags that will defame the greatest QB of all time because of jealous owners. Most people (with the intelligence of at least a 3rd grader) now realize TB was railroaded. Its really the small majority that actually think he cheated at this point. Its made up of jealous fans, jealous owners, Reggie Wayne, Carson Palmer, Bart Hubbuch, Chris Chase, and some other dimwits. Great company you keep.

  32. Lol Pats fans! Classy acts sue homeless people and leave their GF when she is 9 months pregos? Fact: Brady is a cheater and is the product of the NFL desperately trying to put the bandwagon NE fans in seats. Brady is nothing without Goodell.

  33. Poor, poor Patriot Hater 🙂

    To think you really do believe the collection of puny little weaklings known as your team and their weakling fans deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as US! 🙂

    Oh you poor deluded souls…

    🙂

  34. Almost as good as his response of “I don’t believe so” when Brady was asked if he was a cheater. He still hasn’t disputed it other than to say he shouldn’t have been penalized with more than a fine.

  35. Let’s see;

    1. The Colts have been terrible since they threw an entire season (Suck for Luck ) to get the #1 pick. That was ok though because they have “Friends” in the NFL office, and they really needed that pick.

    2. With the exception of 2006, they have been the Pats doormat for 16 years.

    3. Kraft / Belichick took a flyer on Wayne at the end of his career ( after the Colts cut him ) and he quit after about 5 minutes because he thought the Patriot Way was “Too hard”. CLUE: that’s why they are so good. They work harder than any other team.

    4. Since they participated in the scam known as “Deflategate” the Colts are 12-13. The Pats are 19-5. Included in that total is a SB win. Oh and RegisHawk, in case you forgot. that win was against the Seahawks.

    5. Brady and the Pats are always 100% class. They never take the bait, always say the right thing in public, their ex players never come off as bitter has been’s ( I’m talkin to you Reggie Wayne ), and do their talking on the field.

  36. bigbadbills says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:45 AM

    Lol Pats fans! Classy acts sue homeless people and leave their GF when she is 9 months pregos? Fact: Brady is a cheater and is the product of the NFL desperately trying to put the bandwagon NE fans in seats. Brady is nothing without Goodell.


    Actually the Bills are nothing with Brady playing for the Patriots 🙂 Literally.

    .100 winning percentage or something. Tee hee 🙂

  37. Reggie Wayne wasn’t smart enough to learn the NE playbook, so why should we be surprised that he’s not smart enough to understand 5th grade science?

  38. bigbadbills says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:45 AM
    Lol Pats fans! Classy acts sue homeless people and leave their GF when she is 9 months pregos? Fact: Brady is a cheater and is the product of the NFL desperately trying to put the bandwagon NE fans in seats. Brady is nothing without Goodell.
    ****************************************************
    Not one thing you just said is accurate to any extent. We are all stupid for taking the 15 seconds to read it. Thanks

  39. Bart Hubbuch
    —-
    Hubbuch is an admitted troll. He has already admitted that most of what he says is simply trying to get a rise out of Pats fans.

    Carry on. 🙂

  40. its clear that there is cheating in the nfl. hell – the league itself is guilty of promoting certain teams with a little help from the refs, consistently, if it follows their marketing storyline of the year.
    we all know it happens
    were all waiting for goodell to go to hell so we can take this game back.
    patriots, donkeys – both should have their trophies returned. nobody in their right mind thinks those are legit.

    so yeah, he can laugh it off but its a fact – and the fans know it.

    btw – i think Brady and Manning are probably the best QB’s EVER, right alongside Montana. I can separate greatness from cheating though – and both teams cheat badly!

  41. This is somewhat old news. I posted on a Colts forum post last week that was detailing their receiver issues, and I suggested they could call Reggie Wayne, because he could not hack it in New England. Apparently he turned out to be a complete wuss, but Brady has too much class to say it. Wayne is just upset because Brady worked him too hard and Wayne felt he was above that at this point in his career. The only reason Wayne has a ring is because of the rook job the refs did in that 2006 AFC Championship game that essentially won the Super Bowl for them (they got to play the Bears).

    @bigbadbills – the Bills are eniether big or bad, and Brady and Moynihan split before she knew she was pregnant, and she claims he is a great father to their son. How about we examine your life and see how it stands up to the light of day?

  42. RegisHawk says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:12 AM
    Standard Tom Shady behavior. (blah, blah)
    ==============

    2nd and goal… You still mad bro? You will probably be even madder this time next week. 12’s, lol

  43. hoosierhandicapper says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:55 AM
    The entire country knows you’re a cheater, Tom, so I guess you may as well laugh anyway.

    Two first round picks and a 4th due to cheating that you were directly involved with (deflategate) or that you were the beneficiary of (spygate).

    Every year these dirtbags have won a SB it’s been tainted by some form of cheating. And those are just the publicized ones we know about.
    *******************************************************
    you need a hug, a girlfriend or a hobby my friend. Not one thing you just stated is factual so no rebuttal needed. If the whole country knew that Tom Brady cheated then the decision and court documents would’ve been determined as such. You my friend are an idiot

  44. Reggie Wayne

    Undeniably prolific and all but uncoverable in his prime, Wayne was the foil to Marvin Harrison’s workhorse steadiness during the reign of Indianapolis Colts-era Peyton Manning.

    Wayne ended his NFL career in 2014 with 14,345 receiving yards, 82 touchdowns and a Super Bowl ring on his finger. He more or less matched Marvin Harrison in all categories except touchdowns and caught the Colts’ lone receiving touchdown of Super Bowl XLI.

    Talk about him all you want but his stats speak loud…. Go Raiders!!!!

  45. The problem with crybabies like you who say he “cheated”
    Because of deflategate is you can’t explain why he is playing so well
    With “properly inflated football

    Cheating would mean he gained a advantage
    What was the advantage?
    How do you explain how well he has done since the NFL started monitoring the footballs?
    ===========================

    Heres the thing about the PSI incident.

    I, along with the majority of fans, believe brady is guilty as charged. He knew and orchestrated the removal of air pressure. plenty of evidence.

    that said
    I dont think it gave him an advantage, and I dont think he thought it gave him an advantage
    I believe it was simply a preference and important to him.
    maybe he thought it did give him an advantage, i dunno – but he did break the rules and like most things, the coverup is what killed him.

    BTW the same will happen to hiLIARy when the R’s get a special prosecutor on her ass!

  46. There’s one reason why Tom Brady should not and will not be MVP and it’s not what Wayne said.

    It’s because his team went 3-1 without him.

  47. jjackwagon says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:46 AM
    George Costanza says “Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”
    ===================
    There’s very little doubt this is what the NFL front offices believe.

  48. jchipwood says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:10 AM
    Has he been caught cheating? Yes. So is Wayne right? Yes.

    Don’t understand whats so hard understanding the situation.
    ===============
    Caught and proven are two completely disparate issues.

  49. RegisHawk says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:12 AM
    Standard Tom Shady behavior. I remember when he did that charity deal and the guy on the stage asked him directly if he cheated, all he did was turn to the audience and say “What do you think?” Never admit anything they might catch you in a lie on later.
    ====================
    Instead he turns around and praises the guys that just bashed him. Same old Shady indeed. LOL

  50. joetoronto says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:01 PM
    You Bills fans are absolutely pathetic, do you even know just how pathetic you look?

    Says the Tragically Canadian….

  51. For the record, this is the same baby soft Reggie Wayne who would rather retire than work hard and earn a roster spot.

    Softy Wayne retired because the Patriots “practice too hard” and “it wasn’t fun” so let’s all consider the source here.

    If you just want to run around and have fun on sunday’s go join the local flag football squad at the local YMCA you clown shoe.

  52. stealthjunk says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:54 AM
    Almost as good as his response of “I don’t believe so” when Brady was asked if he was a cheater. He still hasn’t disputed it other than to say he shouldn’t have been penalized with more than a fine.
    ===================
    You were saying …

    “I am very disappointed by the NFL’s decision to uphold the 4 game suspension against me. I did nothing wrong, and no one in the Patriots organization did either.”

  53. jjackwagon says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:46 AM
    George Costanza says “Jerry, it’s not a lie if you believe it.”

    This is Tom’s approach to his cheating. It’s not cheating if you believe it isn’t.
    ___________________________________

    Look at the approach of the NFL. Let’s start a conspiracy theory about deflated footballs, create fake science to prove it, have our front office edit everything so that we can use the CBA to defend our witch hunt. Goodell believe’s his own lies. You seem to believe them to. The problem your lacking is you can’t even prove Brady cheated. You are the stupid one believing the lies of the NFL. Don’t blame Brady for your ignorance. Go Patriots!

  54. Its more probable than not the Wayne is showing the “sour grapes” side to his personality because he couldn’t take the intensity of the Pats locker room and got out of there as soon as he figured the the work level exceeded the fun level.

  55. Is this the same Reggie Wayne, who allowed his mistress to use his Huntington Bank debit Card to the tune of $ 93,000 between Oct 2009 and April 2010? Reggie then claimed that an ‘ex girlfriend” had stole his information and committed Credit Card fraud. Reggie is such a man of integrity (just like Irsay and Griggerson ) and a perfect host for Roger’s NFL Network.

  56. Brady: 39 year old still chugging along at the top of his game despite adversity from every angle.

    Wayne: Likely Hall of Famer who had a stellar career but somehow only pokes his head out into the public to flap his gums and say something stupid and salty. He also waited an entire year to refute the reports that he quit when being a Patriot was too hard.

    I wouldn’t waste my time on his opinions either if I were Brady.

  57. TB12RALLYCRY says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:25 AM
    Much like Revis, even when he had a Patriots uniform on , he never was a Patriot……..seasoned lifelong fans like me will understand my feeling……..
    ========================================
    Revis certainly was a Patriot when he wore the uniform. I’m a lifelong fan myself (well, really from when they moved from Boston to Foxboro in 1970).

    In any case, this is what Jackie MacMullan wrote at ESPN:

    Throughout the season, Revis, the four-time All-Pro, stressed to Butler the importance of breaking down film, of refining his technique, of continuing to jam receivers at the line of scrimmage. Revis imparted this advice knowing he could well be grooming his potential replacement.

    You may not like Revis because he tried to maximize his own financial situation, but to say he “was never a Patriot” is a joke. He contributed greatly to the 4th Super Bowl Championship. Wayne contributed nothing and didn’t want to work.

  58. Heres the thing about the PSI incident.

    I, along with the majority of fans, believe brady is guilty as charged. He knew and orchestrated the removal of air pressure. plenty of evidence.
    __________________________________________

    Nailed on the head. Jealous fans. With no objectivity, its hard to take comments like this seriously. Please explain the “plenty of evidence”. I mean, even the NFL has admitted there is no direct evidence so I am sure they would love to see what you have. Does the fact that science proves there was no manual deflation not sway you? Or the fact that the Colts balls were also below the required PSI? Probably not, you are still hanging onto the deflator text from May 2014 and ignoring actual evidence since it doesn’t support the pathetic narrative.

  59. thefootballgodssay says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:04 AM
    Tommy and Billy is cheaters and super bowl 42 & 46 losers
    ———————————–
    The english language lost on your grammer.

  60. As Brady said, Reggie Wayne will probably be in the HOF and was a good competitor. That’s all that’s important. His opinion means nothing. Sad he felt the need to express it.

  61. Was it that fake chuckle Brady uses when he’s trying to think of how to avoid answering a direct question? How many times do YOU step on your phone at the gym?

  62. yourunclerico says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:03 PM

    Heres the thing about the PSI incident.

    I, along with the majority of fans, believe brady is guilty as charged. He knew and orchestrated the removal of air pressure. plenty of evidence.

    …………..

    Except there is ample evidence he did not do it and zero hard evidence he did do it. And why was the only scientific outlet to agree with the NFL’s findings the one who collected a large check from them? Why do you find Goodell credible after so many bungled investigations?

  63. “I am very disappointed by the NFL’s decision to uphold the 4 game suspension against me. I did nothing wrong, and no one in the Patriots organization did either.”


    I will always believe Brady directed the deflator (yes that was his job description, despite the goofy weight loss excuse) and his buddy to make sure that all football air pressure were right at his preference, 12.5 PSI the lowest legal limit, regardless of how they got them from the refs. He probably gave them those instructions after they got some overinflated footballs for a game as the text messages tell us. He probably assumed – and rightly – that the league wouldn’t care about it.

    It fits every piece of evidence out there, the Wells Reports, the texts, the “deflator”, and it also fits Tom’s belief that “he did nothing wrong”. And maybe he’s right. Unless they deflated the other team’s footballs I could care less and we all know the league couldn’t care less about PSI before this scandal happened.

    It’s just too bad for his legacy that he didn’t just say that right at the beginning and throw in a statement like if they got carried away then he apologizes and it won’t happen again. Then maybe they would have gotten a token fine and that would be the end of it. For reasons only known to Brady and the Patriots they chose to defend it the way they did. Strange.

  64. scrappler says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:23 PM
    donald trump also laughs at each of the dozens of women who said he assaulted them
    =============

    and hiLIARy laughs as she cashes checks from countries that support terrorism, throw gays off of cliffs and suppress women.
    bill clinton inc. and the foundation, along with her lying under oath will make the special prosecutors job very easy. she may or may not be in office, but much like nixon, if she is she wont be for long!!!

  65. Just because you got cheating doesn’t mean you’re not great. Roger Clemens is among the greatest pitchers ever, if not the very best. Barry Bonds, although he actually never got caught cheating, was one of the best baseball players ever. Tom Brady is one of the greatest QBs ever. Many people just try to run down superstars for whatever reason.

  66. Love seeing Buffalo Bill fans on every single Patriot column because they’re so bored with their teams performances that they need 15 minutes of fame posting countless nonsensical rhetoric on Patriot columns to make themselves feel better. Then you have Miami Dolphin fans, Jet fans and even some Seahawk fans that come on here all the time. Every time something relative to a Patriots column comes to fruition, you people pitch tents. Pretty sad really.

  67. Wayne was guilty by association as he stood by and watched the GREATEST CHEATING SCANDAL IN NFL HISTORY, by being a part of the Colts team that threw an entire season to land Luck.

    THAT is cheating to the nth degree.
    Not since the Chicago Black Sox had the sporting world ever witnessed such a slap in the face to fair play.

    Dolts*** everything they accomplish with Luck is Tainted beyond Taint

  68. seabrawk12 says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:42 PM

    Laughing at it or not will never remove ****. Everyone outside of Boston knows this.

    …….

    You also forgot outside of scientists at MIT, Stanford, Penn, the University of Michigan, Boston College, Purdue University, the University of California at Berkeley, the University of Delaware, the University of Minnesota, and the University of Southern California, Carnegie Mellon etc. They thought is was B.S. as well. The only scientists who agreed collected a check from Roger, curious, no?

  69. stipez says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:24 PM

    I’m still not sure of the advantage gained from deflating balls. The Pats are still smoking everyone.
    ————————–

    No one has any clue, but Roger said it was an advantage, so the dupes believe it.

    Empirical evidence, however, proves that Tom Brady can win with whatever footballs he is given, regardless of the psi level.

  70. joeflaccoallday says:
    Nov 7, 2016 1:01 PM

    5 yard Tom lol. Probably the only person in America who doesn’t think he cheats.

    LOL, so what does that make Flacco, who has over a .5yd/attempt lower career average than Brady, 3 yard Joe?

  71. “5 yard Tom lol. ”

    Hate to tell you but the Pats are leading the league this year with completions of 20 yards or more in the air before yac are added.

    Its funny to see the Pats haters mytsh that couldn’t be farther from the truth to try and bash Brady.

    But hey, like Roger if the truth doesn’t apply just lie.

  72. seabrawk12 says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:42 PM
    Laughing at it or not will never remove ****. Everyone outside of Boston knows this.
    ==================

    Interestingly I could find no asterisks in the record books, except for the ones denoting *all time playoff record attached to many of Brady’s playoff numbers.
    Couldn’t find anything of that sort attached to your team’s one year dynasty. Stay mad bro!

  73. It is beyond annoying to think that the standards used to call Brady a cheater are based on Spygate and Deflategate…

    What did Brady do or have to do with Spygate? Someone reasonable explain this to me.

    As far as Deflategate goes… the standard of proof used to convict Brady was ridiculous… two points on that… the league failed to prove anything was done to the footballs in the AFC championship game …

    The real air pressure of the balls was never publicly disclosed by the league.

    The NFL lied to ESPN, America , and the Patriots.
    Exponent is going out of business
    Chris Mortensen’s credibility is destroyed.
    ESPN’s ratings are in the tank and they have lost huge numbers of subscribers.
    Ted Well’s credibility as an attorney is now a punch line.

    Who really lost in all this… Not Brady… That”s for sure!!

  74. plum54 says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:25 AM
    Obviously, a player who couldn’t learn the Patriot’s play book because it was above his head, would also not understand 7th grade science. The science, that PROVES there was no tampering , therefore no cheating.
    What a clown!

    BOY IS THAT TRUE

    Wayne in NE was a joke because he didn’t have the IQ to learn their playbook….And now, he shows his lack of IQ on NFLN

  75. 5 yard Tom lol. Probably the only person in America who doesn’t think he cheats.
    __________________________________________

    Cesspool city at it again. Flacco looked fantastic yesterday, don’t you think? Perhaps the Ravens might even sniff the playoffs this year.

    Actually, if you line up the people that believe Brady is innocent vs guilty, I’m glad I side with the innocents. World renouned scientists, legal minds, objective writers (Florio, Wetzel, Jenkins, etc. etc.) and people with reading comprehension skills vs. jealous fans, hack sports writers, Rodger Goodell, and Bill Nye the Science Guy. Wow, the company you keep…..

  76. hoosierhandicapper says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:55 AM

    Every year these dirtbags have won a SB it’s been tainted by some form of cheating. And those are just the publicized ones we know about.
    ————————————-

    So fill us in on all the cheating we don’t know about.

  77. Again, he is a cheater and arguably the greatest of all time. They aren’t mutually exclusive. The reality is people of integrity and character don’t cheat. And he would probably still be the GOAT without the cheating. Oh well.

  78. packertruth says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:40 PM
    Was it that fake chuckle Brady uses when he’s trying to think of how to avoid answering a direct question? How many times do YOU step on your phone at the gym?

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    Me none, but I have seen it happen a couple times. And as far as dropping on hard surfaces, I’ve seen that tons of times.

  79. infectorman says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:54 PM
    Wayne was guilty by association as he stood by and watched the GREATEST CHEATING SCANDAL IN NFL HISTORY, by being a part of the Colts team that threw an entire season to land Luck.

    THAT is cheating to the nth degree.
    Not since the Chicago Black Sox had the sporting world ever witnessed such a slap in the face to fair play.

    Dolts*** everything they accomplish with Luck is Tainted beyond Taint

    ————————————

    Well then no biggie because it hasn’t been much.

  80. gisellichek says:
    Nov 7, 2016 2:12 PM
    …..

    Who really lost in all this… Not Brady… That”s for sure!!

    I understand your points but I would argue every true NFL fan lost when Tom Brady had 4 games stolen from him at the start of the season. Two of those were nationally televised games, so every true NFL fan missed an opportunity to watch Tom Brady, the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, play in those two games.

  81. Reggie is correct. Tom served a 4 game suspension for cheating this season. Therefore he should be ineligible for an MVP award this season.

  82. Brady does not need to cheat, he is playing within the greatest system in the NFL history. You can plug in a high school QB in that system and he will have success. So why would Brady cheat?

  83. Footballs inflated to the league minimum in a warm room. Balls taken out into the cold weather and allowed to sit and absorb the cold temperatures and rain. Balls measured at halftime are below league pressure standards. It is completely reasonable for that to happen. If I set my tire pressure in the middle of the afternoon while the temps are in the high 80’s, at night when it’s in the 50’s the tire pressure will be lower.

  84. I’m not sure how anyone can deny that Brady is cheater. That’s unless you live in a fantasy and deny facts. Spygate will always be part of Brady’s and the Patriots history.
    **** Forever and ever

  85. Reggie, you were a pretty good football player but you’re forgettable because you’re not a winner.

    Brady on the other hand is the definition of a winner and will never be forgotten.

    Nice try Reggie but you’ve been forgotten. Shut it.

  86. Reggie, you were a pretty good football player but you’re forgettable because you’re not a winner.
    ________

    Reggie Wayne won a Super Bowl. Typical know nothing bandwagon New England fan….

  87. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Nov 7, 2016 2:47 PM

    Brady does not need to cheat, he is playing within the greatest system in the NFL history. You can plug in a high school QB in that system and he will have success. So why would Brady cheat?
    …………………………………………

    You never answer the questions you’re repeated comment begs.

    1.)Why then is Belichick only 19-19 as Pats HC without Brady starting ?

    2.)And why would Belichick keep paying Brady big money all these years and not have traded him for picks by now? As seen with the likes of Mankins, Milloy, Bledsoe, Revis, Moss, Jones and obviously most recently with Jamie Collins, Belichick loves cap space flexibility and picks over expensive players. It would make no sense for Belichick to keep Brady what your saying was true.

  88. patswinagain says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:17 AM
    The worst thing TB has ever publicly said about anyone: “I think he should read the rule book”

    ********************************************
    And that one innocent remark is what caused this entire mess (in my humble opinion).

    I heard that on the news conference and said to my friend “Oh no, not a good comment, Harbaugh is going to be pissed”

    And with the help of his friends in the Colts organization, JH got TB12.

  89. Reggie Wayne won a Super Bowl. Typical know nothing bandwagon New England fan….

    _______________________

    Lots of players have won A superbowl. Not many have won 4. He’s a loser compared to TB. And very forgettable.

  90. yourunclerico says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:03 PM

    Heres the thing about the PSI incident.

    I, along with the majority of fans, believe brady is guilty as charged. He knew and orchestrated the removal of air pressure. plenty of evidence.
    ===========================
    Plenty of evidence … you have texts, a video of the ball boy entering a bathroom and no science to back any of it up.

  91. joeflaccoallday says:
    Nov 7, 2016 1:01 PM
    5 yard Tom lol. Probably the only person in America who doesn’t think he cheats.
    ================
    Huck and chuck Flacco. There’s more religion in his greatness than anything else. Throw it up and pray.

  92. Quite simply, if the NFL was so sure Brady orchestrated a scheme to deflate footballs there is no reason not to release the PSI numbers. There should be little reason for scrutiny. If people are so certain Brady did this what is there to worry about?

    We all know why. The numbers will either show (1) Brady was innocent or (2) games were played with illegal PSI levels and the Pats\Brady were the scapegoats. The refusal of the NFL to be transparent on that (actually on everything) speaks volumes.

  93. “I’m not sure how anyone can deny that Brady is cheater.”

    Unless you failed 5th grade science and bought lie after proven lie by Goodell, I’m not sure how anyone could think he was a cheater.

  94. “You give everyone else your power when you start reacting to everything they say.”

    Wouldn’t it be something if other players made this their philosophy? Too many of them let some other guy get in their heads and affecting their play.

    Good for Brady to take this attitude. He’s seemed very much at peace this season. I think he really does feel this way, and it can’t be an easy lesson to learn.

    That’s why I don’t understand everybody saying Brady’s on the FU tour. Nice sound bite, but I’m not seeing it. I think he’s put all that in his rear view mirror and is focusing on the task at hand. Anything that doesn’t help him be the best QB he can be isn’t going to take up any real estate in his head. This is yet another huge benefit to having him on the team and influencing younger players.

  95. Why would anything bother this guy?

    He’s got a supermodel wife, plenty of money, is working on his 5th Super Bowl ring, and with his superior play, has completely proven Roger Goodell wrong on all counts.

  96. trailerparkking says:
    Nov 7, 2016 2:51 PM

    I’m not sure how anyone can deny that Brady is cheater.
    ——————–

    It’s pretty easy once you accept that Goodell, along with the entire league office, are compulsive liars.

    If that doesn’t convince folks, the fact that they switched out the footballs at halftime of that super cold Vikings playoff game last season should do the trick.

  97. The best part about the handful of low-information individuals that still think Brady cheated is they continue to make themselves look foolish on here and twist and turn themselves into pretzels…….its quite entertaining. To this day, the one very simple question that no one can answer is why were the Colts balls also below the required PSI? Its a very simple question for which I have not yet heard an answer. Forget about the NFL lies, fabrication of evidence, science denying, and refusal to release the 2015 PSI. Please just answer that very simple question.

  98. yourunclerico says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:58 AM

    btw – i think Brady and Manning are probably the best QB’s EVER, right alongside Montana. I can separate greatness from cheating though – and both teams cheat badly!
    ——————–

    The 49ers were cheating as well. They might as well take back every Super Bowl trophy, while they are at it.

  99. Wayne would know. He was in camp with them. Notice how a real pro like Flacco doesn’t have any scandal around him? Brady can’t hold Flaccos jock and that’s a fact. That’s why the Ravens have already won the Super Bowl this year all that’s left is determining who this great organization will beat.

  100. It’s true. BAL beat PIT yesterday for their Super Bowl win. Congrats to Jumpball Joe, all the little Flaccos, and, of course, the Little Coach that Couldn’t, John Hairball.

  101. I don’t really believe Brady even cares about being voted LEAGUE MVP…. His goals are set much higher than that….getting his next ring & having Frauger hand him & BB the Lombardi is all he really cares about….& of course getting the SuperBowl MVP would just be the frosting on the cake for us fans……

  102. Brady is the MVP of the league whether he wins the actual award or not–everybody knows it.

    Brady and the Patriots will be in the Super Bowl again this year. They’re the best team in the league. Everybody knows it.

    Belichick is the best coach in the league. Everybody knows it.

    …all of these facts cause the knuckleheads to post what nonsense they have to in an attempt to pacify themselves. When you can’t beat the best, some people can convince themselves of anything to try and bring them down.

    Everybody knows it.

  103. Reggie Wayne is truly a class act… one of the all-time greats, a superstar WR without the superstar WR ego, and he never had to break the rules to achieve greatness.

    Sorry, Pats fans, but Tom Brady will carry the label “cheater” to the grave, for one simple reason: He cheated.

  104. Brady’s response was the only classy move

    The alternative is pointing out that Reggie Wayne couldn’t pass 7th grade science (seeing as he doesn’t “get” the Laws of Physics) let alone learn the Patriots offense

  105. Only TB12 and a few of his buddies know what he did and didn’t do.

    Obviously.

    The science doesn’t clearly implicate him.

    Even the texts from Dumb and Dumber aren’t conclusive.

    Same for the bathroom visit and the Deflator’s seemingly uncharacteristic behavior in the refs locker room.

    But…

    Taken all together, along with the unprecedented and sudden flurry of texts and phone calls to Jaz as well as his highly unusual visit to the QB room in the days after the Colts game should cause sensible folks to at least scratch their heads….

    The rules infraction itself was only a fine. But the appearance of a coverup and willful denial…. that’s what almost got us to the Supreme Court.

    That and the NFL office’s gross mishandling of the entire process and situation.

    Poor judgment spun way, way out of control, on both sides.

    That said, TB12 is still the GOAT.

    Just watch the games.

  106. canedaddy says:
    Nov 8, 2016 12:42 AM

    Sorry, Pats fans, but Tom Brady will carry the label “cheater” to the grave, for one simple reason: He cheated.

    —————————————————————-

    It’s will be a shame if you are right and clueless dupes are unable to get a clue by then. The clueless dupes have already had enough time to figure out that Tom Brady never cheated.

    Consider the following evidence is already available:
    • The report that claimed that 11 of 12 footballs were 2.50 PSI below 12.50 PSI was false. The NFL made sure that the false story was not corrected until it permanently duped the gullible masses.
    • Numerous scientists who followed the story and waited for the actual PSI measurements determined that the cold weather explained why the Patriots footballs lost PSI.
    • Many people took NFL footballs, PSI gauges, and refrigerators and filmed tests. Those videos are available online and everyone can watch footballs lose PSI when put into the refrigerators. The PSI numbers can then be seen increasing once the footballs are taken out of the refrigerators. (Don’t forget that the 4 Colts footballs were allowed to warm up indoors while the NFL measured the Patriots 11 footballs twice)
    • The NFL can’t release the PSI information that was collected in games played during the 2015 season because that information would even allow the clueless dupes to see that footballs always lose PSI naturally when taken outside on cold days.

  107. I wonder if Tom would change places with me. Except for just about everything it would be a wash.

  108. donlogansb says:
    Nov 8, 2016 2:02 PM

    Same for the bathroom visit and the Deflator’s seemingly uncharacteristic behavior in the refs locker room.

    But…

    Taken all together, along with the unprecedented and sudden flurry of texts and phone calls to Jaz as well as his highly unusual visit to the QB room in the days after the Colts game should cause sensible folks to at least scratch their heads….

    …………..

    The “uncharacteristic behavior” wasn’t. McNally often just grabbed the balls and headed to the field. An NFL employee during the same game was STEALING footballs for profit, something Wells mentions in a mere footnote. Refs never really cared before. And in fact they still don’t pay attention to the football location. Last year before the Pats playoff game, the game refs left the kicking balls back in their hotel room. Mass State Police had to escort them to the field to ensure the game could start on time. And why haven’t the PSI “spot checks” been released after Goodell promised “transparency”?

    Also, you forget in the next days after the AFC title game, Deflategate was headlining not just ESPN, but the national evening news ! It would be highly unusual if Brady didn’t communicate his previously anonymous equipment guys who now were infamous with very little real information available. Brady is used to lots of attention, his equipment guys were not. Brady even admitted to speaking about deflategate with him in the appeal transcript, and yet Goodell decided to perjure himself by saying the opposite in his decision and in court. These are just a couple of the numerous discrepancies with the NFL’s case.

  109. Looks like Reggie is speaking from his inner moral center. He was with the team and he mysteriously left…….wondered if it had to do with learning a bit about the patriot way…….aligns with past Peyton manning beliefs and behaviors when in Foxboro…..

    Why Yes Cheating must be it. Got caught twice and still do it because it fills up seats and gives mega profit to the profiteer Kraft…..complicit organized institutional business charter……always be cheating

  110. Changing the rules (thanks, Polian) Piping in crowd noise, tanking seasons for draft picks, & cranking up the temperature in the 2nd half of the AFCCG isn’t cheating at all. Those Indy Dolts, the gold standard of morality, nothing but Boy Scouts calling the shots in class act of an organization….also have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale, anyone…Buehler…?

  111. Judge Wayne’s “inner moral center” isn’t all that strong. He lied to police when he reported his mistress rang up $95K on his credit cards and his wife found out. And he was with a Colts team that piped in crowd noise.

  112. I’m not sure how anyone can deny that Brady is cheater. That’s unless you live in a fantasy and deny facts. Spygate will always be part of Brady’s and the Patriots history.
    **** Forever and ever

    ———————-
    And getting Tebow’ed out of the playoffs will always be part of the Steeler’s history, along with Dr Rydze.

    ****** forever & ever

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