Ugly home losses, lack of “juice” put Mike McCarthy firmly on the hot seat

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Packers fans may soon be longing for the days of unfulfilled postseason expectations. With a pair of consecutive losses and a 4-4 record through half of the season, the Packers may not get a chance to underwhelm in this year’s playoffs.

And if that happens, coach Mike McCarthy may not get a chance to extend his run in Green Bay to 12 seasons.

As noted by Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Packers have lost three times at home in the last year games that they were favored to win by seven or more points.

“That’s becoming a habit, a very bad habit, for coach Mike McCarthy and the Green Bay Packers,” McGinn writes, adding that the most recent home loss came against a Colts teams that one member of the front office regards as the worst team the Packers will play all year.

Then there are the critical comments from quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who at first blush seemed to be calling out his teammates for not having energy on Sunday but who actually may have been calling out those charged with ensuring that the players are properly energized.

“I’m not a rah-rah guy, but I’m a focused, enthusiastic player, and I don’t know what the lack of juice was,” Rodgers said. “You kind of felt it over the entire sideline. We didn’t have the same kind of enthusiasm and encouragement that we had the previous two weeks.”

Rodgers said he “felt it over the entire sideline,” which consists of more team employees than players. Which means that the lethargy was shared by the coaches — and how can the coaches keep the players from being lethargic when the coaches are?

Regardless of the target(s) of Rodgers’ public ire, the Packers are once again struggling. Which means that, if they don’t qualify for the postseason, the Packers may finally decide to find a coach to match with Rodgers for at least the remaining years of his playing career.

160 responses to “Ugly home losses, lack of “juice” put Mike McCarthy firmly on the hot seat

  1. he’s not on the hot seat and if he is he certainly shouldn’t be. you can do a heck of a lot worse at the coaching position than McCarthy. you let him go and who are you gonna hire that’s better? the run game needs a boost and the D has many injuries and Aaron is just a bit off but no way you fire McCarthy

  2. No question about it, they looked flat. When your intensity gets outmatched by a low pulse team like Indy in your own building the questions about the coaching staff are deserved.

    And now back to the inevitable purple powered trollathon…

  3. I sure hope this is the end of the McCarthy era. I figured he would be gone two years after the loss to the Seahawks in the NFC Championship game.

  4. ..
    Before burning McCarthy at the stake, someone should take a look at the Packers drafts over the past five years. They’re dismal at best.
    .

  5. I wouldn’t mind seeing a full house cleaning next year from the coaching staff to the gm. I love draft and develop but the lack of spending in free agency is tiresome and McCarthy just doesn’t seem to have that spark anymore.

  6. The Packers are starting to loose some of that “We Can’t Loose” persona and it’s obvious . I sure don’t feel sorry for them. Too bad, so sad. McCarthy just a little too Comfortable………..

  7. Sure, Rodgers had all the energy and his teammates had none of it. That’s why they lost. That team sure seems to be getting used to what the underside of the bus looks like.

    As a veteran franchise QB, you may not be a “rah rah” guy, but you need to do your part to ensure rookies and less experienced players get a boost from your uncapped energy.

  8. As a Packers fan I think his time might be up. Eventually any coach (not named Belichick) will run his course at a team, and he might have run his. It’s nothing to be ashamed of, honestly. It’s probably just time for new blood.

  9. This game put me to sleep. If Rodgers is truly the best, its up to him as the leader of the team To get the team going. If its poor coaching then Rodgers needs to address that also. That can be done privately or if need be publicly!

  10. I’d be a great reporter..i would say to Rodgers “an unnamed source said you could care less if you win or lose, because you get paid either way…could you comment on that”? oh he would go off for sure.

  11. Thompson and McCarthy are stale. Team is 9-11 is past 20 games.

    Both are signed through 2018. Green Bay doesn’t buy out contracts. So expect the malaise to continue unabated.

    President Mark Murphy is busy cutting ribbons and growing revenue streams. He’s more a CMO than a team president.

    Thompson operates in a vacuum. No accountability.

  12. I too, like the draft and develop but where is the develop? It would seem to me that if you develop your young draft picks, at some point your no longer the youngest team in the league year after year after year after year…

  13. Draft & develop works if (and only if) you hit on all your picks, if you miss a few and refuse to spend in free agency then you will not have the necessary roster depth to be a top level team for the 16 game season & that’s what we’re seeing with the Pack

  14. This topic is long overdue. I have said it for years. McCarty and Thompson are largely overmatched by their peers. However Hall of Fame qb’s will cover enough of your shortcomings to stay relevant and employed. Rodgers isn’t playing above all of his peers right now and this is what we have. Mediocre talent and coaching.

  15. The Colts and Packers have similar problems, but frankly the Packers shouldn’t have been outclassed by a very bad Colts D and a hit or miss Colts Offense. That said as a Colts fan I’ll trade you McCarthy for Pagano..

  16. GB is a finesse team.

    Since winning the Super Bowl in 2010 they’ve been regularly punched in the mouth by physical teams — especially in the playoffs where they are abysmal.

    McCarthy is Jerry Glanville 2.0 running this run-and-shoot offense with a cast of receivers who all do the same thing well: run slow.

    How unprepared are you to not have a third running back on your roster or practice squad.

    They’re simply no good anymore.

    But with no actual owner to light a fire under someone’s as or make changes, Thompson goes unchecked.

  17. Part of the problem remains bizarre player usage. Ty Montgomery has proven to be one of the most dynamic, reliable players on offense – especially in the pass game.

    Yesterday, TyMo played at most 50% of snaps and got 3 targets while Richard Rodgers – who defines ‘mediocre’ – got 10… And despite averaging 7.5 yards/carry, TyMo got only 7 carries while Ripkowski & Jackson plodded around 6 times.

    There are plenty of issues in GB right now, but talent utilization is a good place to start.

  18. The Packer organization is wasting Rodgers just as they did Favre. They refuse to bring in the pieces that will make them consistent winners. They know the fans will show up no matter what, and they take advantage of that fact.

    I’m tired of the Packers just being OK. McCarthy benefited from proximity to Favre and Rodgers. He’s as predictable as his offenses.

    They are lucky, this year, that nobody else in the division is running away with it. But even if the Packers make the postseason, so what? They aren’t going anywhere.

  19. ravensbob says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:21 AM
    Dude would be unemployed for all of ten minutes. Shoddy journalism

    —————

    Definitely not even ten minutes. He’s not a bad coach. But just because another team would hire someone doesn’t mean it was a mistake to let them go.

  20. Well, if there’s one positive to the sham of Deflategate (as a Patriots fan living in Wisconsin), it’s watching the increased enforcement of the air pressure rules have a negative impact on the QB who clearly benefitted from “filling them beyond the legal limit to see if they can get past” the officials….

    #RealCheater #RELAXLol

  21. McCarthy shouldn’t be fired unless the Packers have a clear replacement planned who would be actually better. Too often coaches get fired and replaced with an even worse coach. There just aren’t that many good coaches…

    That said, there is a lot of improvements that McCarthy could make with this team. Mostly… injuries have made things very difficult for him so its hard to blame him for a whole lot.

  22. yep aaron, once again, its all about you….yet you can’t seem to get it done anymore
    ——–
    Uh, Rodgers can’t make Janis catch a perfect pass and he can’t stop the defense from giving up two huge third down conversions on the final drive. Nor can he play rb. This loss isn’t on him but good try trollboy.

    Why don’t you worry about your own team? You’ve got the worst offense in the league and a defense that suddenly seems average.

  23. I’ve been saying it for the last two years there is something missing with this team, they just look like a stagnate team, going through the motions. I also am not sure if (as much as I would like to see) Jon Gruden would even listen due to the fact him and McCarthy are close friends. So who is out there that would give this team some much needed energy? Other then Gruden I don’t know, you think Tom Coughlin who says he wants to coach again is the guy (short term) maybe? Bill Cowher? I doubt it neither is an offensive minded guy who I’m sure Rodgers would be happy with? Sean Patton? possibly, whatever happens with this team they need to make some big time changes. It’s a top job for coaching (great QB) in place maybe there is somebody under the radar, I just don’t know who it is….other then Gruden?

  24. McCarthy is a terrible coach. When he’s finally let go and doesn’t have one of the best QBs in the league making up for all of his shortcomings, it will be obvious.

  25. MM needs to turn play calling back over and focus on coaching the team, or he can go. The team looks uninspired completely.

    The game plan has been rather stagnant for several seasons. Our offense has always been our bright spot and our defense has never really been exceptional. GB has a lot of issues. Our secondary is really bad right now, but that is arguably the hardest position to play and I get that. No excuse, other teams manage it just fine. Either we need better coaching, or better players, but most likely its both.

    Our defense is just in complete disarray and the offense is completely inconsistent, nor is it explosive anymore. If you can’t do one, you better hope you can do the other but that’s just not really the case right now.

    AR has carried this team for years, and hes not playing up to that standard right now and that is shining through with these losses. It was the same thing last year. If we dont win on hail marys from AR or other weird ways, we probably would have been in the same place as this year. Miracle wins like that mask the underlying issues with the team and made us all think it was all better when case in point, it wasnt. This team has been like this for awhile now.

    I dont remember the last time i went into a game thinking it was a lock. In fact, I dont remember the last time we won a game big. We almost did against the lions earlier this year, and then we ended up getting complacent and disappeared in the 2nd half and barely won.

    I think we just need some new personnel.

  26. Packers fans….be careful what you wish for. What available head coach would do any better than McCarthy? Coughlin? Shanahan? Id gladly take McCarthy over Pagano

  27. pkrlvr says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:34 AM

    yep aaron, once again, its all about you….yet you can’t seem to get it done anymore
    ——–
    Uh, Rodgers can’t make Janis catch a perfect pass and he can’t stop the defense from giving up two huge third down conversions on the final drive. Nor can he play rb. This loss isn’t on him but good try trollboy.

    Why don’t you worry about your own team? You’ve got the worst offense in the league and a defense that suddenly seems average.

    AND u cant even admit gb lost..is Rodgers still the greatest or isn’t he? he sure pumps his fists a lot and puts on championship belts well b4 the game is over….the guy is a diva

  28. This has been obvious since before they hired him. Now that the Packers are in 3rd place behind a so-so team (Detroit) and a bad team, it’s more noticeable. McCarthy is the reason this team isn’t dominant, AND the reason why Rodgers has fallen off.

  29. It was really a bizarre game plan on offense. There was a lot of TE usage, despite the fact that we weren’t calling run plays and our TE’s are slow plodding guys.

    Next all kinds of deep shots that failed. One drop, and the rest were poor throws. The worst was the bomb into double coverage on 3rd and 6.

    But Special Teams really lost the game. 2 kick returns for 160 yards (1 TD, and setup 1 FG)and an easy missed FG. That’s basically 13 points and the Packers are not good enough to overcome that right now.

  30. McCarthy is overstaying his welcome. Green Bay needs a new pulse of leadership. It’s gone stale the last few seasons with McCarthy. There’s enough talent to keep them in the contention for playoffs, but I truly believe their success is not a result of McCarthy, but rather in spite of McCarthy. We need new leadership blood… new philosophical and strategic use of Aaron Rodgers and upcoming talent.

  31. He is a good coach. the lack of a running game is hurting them badly. Plus to this casual observer Rogers seems to be looking for a home run ball on nearly every throw he makes, not sure if that is him or the play calling but it is not working that is for sure!!!

  32. Let’s not blame McCarthy for everything. The man above him has more blame. He has refused to get this team linebackers who can play sideline to sideline instead relying on 4th round picks and street fa.

    Ted has put together a good offensive line and a few good picks on defense daniels dix Burnett but nothing else.

    Injuries are part of the game no excuses. Every team has them.

    This team is just an average team that needs palymakers in the middle of the def. All great teams have them

  33. McCarthy is a great coach, but sometimes the relationship between coach and players goes stale. The players get tired of hearing the same messages, the same motivational techniques, and they tune the coach out. Not sure if that is the situation here, but it happens.

  34. leatherface2012 says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:46 AM

    AND u cant even admit gb lost..is Rodgers still the greatest or isn’t he? he sure pumps his fists a lot and puts on championship belts well b4 the game is over….the guy is a diva

    —————

    They all are. Every team struts around the field every time they make a catch or a tackle.

    Yea, it’s annoying but that the NFL. Sometimes its a way to get your team fired up, and sometimes its just silly. We have seen players blow out their knees celebrating a simple sack.

    If you call AR out for it, you might as well call out the whole league.

    toodlez

  35. Every coach is on the hot seat. They’re all only as good as their last game, just like the players.
    And please — don’t ever quote Bob McGinn on anything regarding the Packers. He has a personal vendetta against Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy, and especially Aaron Rodgers.
    Plus, he relies on “unnamed sources” all the time when he goes in his attack mode. He does that to back up his misguided points.
    Here’s what I know (and I am a Packers fan since 1960) — this Packers team is struggling because:
    1. They lost Eddie Lacy and James Starks and are using WR’s at RB.
    2. They signed Jared Cook to have a TE who can make plays down the field. He hasn’t played since Sept 25 when he hurt his ankle, and that really hurt their offense. Their backups are just guys.
    3. They lost their best cover corner in Sam Shields in week 1, and not only has he been placed on IR, his career might be over (concussions).
    In addition, two other corners have missed extensive time (Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins) and Clay Matthews has struggled with a hamstring injury and has missed the last two games.
    Injuries are no excuse for sure — but you can’t ignore them, either.
    All of that said, here’s the other big problem which is the same as it was last year. Their WR’s cannot get open. Jordy Nelson is not the same as he was after his injury which sidelined him all of last year — and he’s 31 now. The Packers keep lauding Davante Adams, and while he has certainly improved, he is far from a super star and disappears for whole games. Behind them, Randall Cobb is what he is — a guy who can do many things but needs other guys to take the heat off him. They cut Jared Abbrederis in favor of Geronimo Allison off the practice squad, but he hasn’t done anything so far either. Well, he does have 1 TD catch. And Trevor Davis, a rookie, is fast but he only weighs 188 lbs. He can’t get off the line against press coverage.
    In summary, the offense has no running game — except for Aaron Rodgers — and they have no TE and their WR’s have DB’s and safeties stick to them as if they have magnets on them.
    All of that said, I do think it is time for a change. I think Ted Thompson and/or Mike McCarthy should be gone after this year and it’s time to bring in some new ideas. The Packers are extremely predictable and it’s obvious a change is needed. They’ve had a great run since the early 90’s and it was inevitable that it would end at some point. I believe the time to change is now, after this season.

  36. Ugly home losses, lack of “juice” put Mike McCarthy firmly on the hot seat
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    The reason it’s firmly in the hot seat is because his rear end is wedged in there tight from its sheer size.

  37. The Packers refrigerator, Eddy Lacy was part of the problem.
    Too much complacency, where there should not be, for many on the team.
    I would like the Lions to leap to the top

  38. I’m enjoying the heck out of this! The Colts, Pack, etc. (Luck & AR) do not have a TEAM around them to make it work. Luck’s sacked umpteen times, Rodger’s errant throws, but nobody is bashing them like ALL bashed Romo, for the very same reason, his entire career, sans about 3 years!! And, that was JJ’s fault, not Romo’s!! However, Tony NEVER threw his teammates under the bus, like AR does!! Tony put up 30 and the D gave away 35. I do NOT understand the bashing………….Unless, it’s just because it’s the Cowboys! 2014..the Dez catch/nonn-catch @ LAMBEAU….He sure could not run down & catch it himself, JUST like AR (if thrown on target, like Romo’s was) Just tryin’ to keep it real…..

  39. McCarthy is a great coach, but it might be time to bring in some outside coordinators. The offense has been too predicable over the past few years and it would be nice to get some new blood in to help out the staff, and the defense has been way too predictable since Capers second year. Personally I’d like McCarthy to stay but I’d replace Edgar Bennett and Dom Capers with people outside the Packers organization.

  40. Dom Capers and everyone on that defensive staff should have been gone years ago, and shuffling the deck on the titanic with the play calling on offense only delays the inevitable for so long. Team has needed a fresh approach for too long, time to go

  41. McCarthy is a putz, everyone in Wisconsin shook their head when he was hired as HC. He stunk as an OC in SanFran, and the only reason he has had a job this long is because he had back to back franchise QB’s.

    Might as well trade guys like Rodgers, Cobb, and Nelson while they are producing so you can actually get something for them. Rodgers is getting older and if he has to learn a new offense, he will regress quickly. Without a steady Rodgers, Cobb and Nelson become mediocre. I have a feeling that GB is on the decline, and it won’t be to long before they are irrelevant for many years like they were before Wolff, Holmgren, and Favre came to town.

  42. Ted Thompson should go first.

    Building through the draft is one thing. Nickle and diming your way through free agency instead of doing a healthy mix get’s you what the Packer have today. It’s what they’ve been for 10+ years, they just had a QB that could cover up what they don’t have.

  43. The Packers have been propped up by being in a weak division the last 5years.

    They haven’t been as good as record indicates…

    They need a change.

  44. bartinsurance says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:25 AM

    This topic is long overdue. I have said it for years. McCarty and Thompson are largely overmatched by their peers.

    McCarthy maybe but I don’t think Thompson is overmatched by his peers. He is widely thought to be one of the best in the business.

    I think what is going on in GB is a perfect storm. The offense is easily game planned for because there is NO threat to run the ball or even a desire to try and run the ball. If you can run the ball you open up the entire offense and I think it can even help the offense.

    As a lifelong Packer fan I put WAY more blame on the defense than I do on the offense ran by McCarthy. Each week they are gashed through the passing game and yet nothing changes.

    For those of us that have watched how this team operates over the years it is not their style to panic and fire the coach. Now I will say that it could happen after next year if this continues.

  45. Why no comments about Edgar Bennett at OC. He was an average rb but no offensive genius. They should have jumped back on Joe Philbin when he became available after he was fired in Miami. Instead he comes back with Indy yesterday to help doom the Packers.

    The Packers’ wr route running is so amateurish even the Detroit secondary looked good against them.

  46. I think there are reasons to criticize the Coach but at some level shouldn’t professional athletes make sure they are mentally prepared to play? I’ll tell you what’s sickening. Matthews making millions and missing multiple games every year and not producing. Or Randall Cobb making nearly 10 mil a year and not producing. Or Eddy Lacy incapable of keeping himself in shape in a contract year. Or Dix simply failing to grab and hold onto Luck yesterday and going high on the tackle. Or Rodgers not just dumping off to open receivers. I’m sorry but it’s time for professionals to be professionals. Or Janis failing to catch a ball right in the hands. The list goes on

  47. PED Bowl. This was the Bowl between the two cheating-est teams in the game right now.

    The mocking squirrel mascot was just karma.

  48. People jumping on the Lions bandwagon are hilarious. You do remember Jim Caldwell is coaching the team? Did you see the Detroit vs Tennessee game? That result is the real Caldwell. It took a major miracle to win the game yesterday and it wasn’t Caldwell’s expertise that won anything. The guy sucks.

  49. This is the sixth straight here they’ve been underachieving. And back in 2010? They were 9-7 and had a hot streak in the playoffs. I don’t see that hot streak coming. They may not even make the playoffs.

  50. Couple bad drafts, some injuries and the blanket protection from the refs getting pulled away….yknow, basically the circumstances the res of the league deals with….and the howling starts….boo hoo. take your 7-9 year and like it.

  51. Typical. One so-so season and the Packers fans cannot tolerate the thought that their team might be just that: so-so.

    Get a life, Cheese people. Get an existence apart from the team. You are not the team. The team is. You are you.

  52. Yea when McCarthy had talent he won the big games, this roster is no where close to being as talented when they won the SB several years ago. Careful what you ask for GB, a lot teams will be lining up to hire your coach once he gets fired.

  53. MM has benefited from two HOF QBs, that’s for sure, but he’s not really a bad coach. However, I think with a real good coach the Pack would have another SB trophy in their trophy case.

    Seems the problem now is personnel as much as anything — too many injuries in the defensive backfield and at RB, and WRs that just can’t gain separation. Rodgers can only do so much to hide those warts.

    At least your kicker doesn’t suck.

  54. Losing to the inferior Colts at home is nearly unforgivable. McCarthy better turn things around and Ted Thompson needs to give him a better roster.

  55. The thing I like about my Green Bay Packers is when the going gets tough, the players and coaches don’t quit. They don’t cut and run. They don’t pull crazy motivational stunts and lose control of their emotions during press conferences. They roll up their sleeves and get back to work.

  56. It’s been quietly reported, and swept under the rug, for some time that Rodgers dislikes McCarthy. McCarthy stepping down from his play calling duties a while back was a direct result of Rodgers being a diva and subtly calling out the gameplans in press conferences. This is another example of A-Rod refusing to take the blame and bus chucking everyone around him. He loves to bask in the glory as the leader of the team when things are going well, but refuses to shoulder any blame or do the things leaders are supposed to do when times get a little rough.

  57. He should’ve been on the hot seat after he chocked in the NFC Championship game a couple years ago. Most overrated coach in the league.

  58. Get rid of McCarthy and get Josh McDaniels. The only reason he didn’t go over well in Denver was that Elway wouldn’t stop meddling. You know Ted Thompson doesn’t care. Maybe get rid of him too and give Wolf’s kid a shot. Couldn’t be much worse for you guys.

  59. If the Packers are stupid enough to fire Mccarthy for 1 bad year then its their loss.

    If he really is fired, the Bills should fire Rex Ryan literally the next minute and jump on him. Rex is underrated as a coach and doesnt deserve all the flack he gets, but McCarthy is a whole different tier

  60. 1. They lost Eddie Lacy and James Starks and are using WR’s at RB.
    ——–

    Most of this post was great analysis, but about this… It’s a small sample size, but for the record Ty Montgomery has a higher yards/carry avg in both of his NFL seasons than Lacy or Starks. He’s also faster and better built for RB than Starks.

  61. This problem is more like finding out Aaron Rodgers is not the leader you think he is at quarterback. Its easy to throw completions, touchdowns, and look the part statistically. Then there are the Quarterbacks who control energy, and galvanize the entire organization to come with them, hop on their back, as they literally scratch, claw, and fight to change the world. They get hit, and it just makes them throw harder, and more accurate, you feed them– stiff arm Dan Morgan’s face and he breaks his leg type swag. #Favre #Elway

    “I have been working out like a psycho”– #Young

  62. Not a lot of NFL coaches last 11 or more years, somehow, some way, they lose the ability to motivate their team. Don’t ask me why, I don’t know, it just happens.

    It is a rare Sunday that the Packer fans can look at a game that they won and say, “Ya, McCarthy really out coached his counterpart on the other sideline” Green Bay usually starts the game with better talent on their sidelines and that will prevail over the course of the next 60 minutes.

    I don’t know know who is a better coach and it will likely not happen mid season but I think Ted Thompson should retire, allow the new GM to come with his own hire at head coach.

  63. i love it, so many people over the past few years have called Rodgers the “best.” He was NEVER the best, Brady is the best and always has been. Just be honest with yourselves Packer fans. his post season record is 8-6, mediocre. He is definitely the most talented QB in the league, but he isnt a leader, Brady is a leader. Rodgers became too self satisfied after his Super Bowl, his 1 SB. Arrogant people like him don’t constantly try to improve. Brady always works on improving something each off season, he is driven to excellence . Rodgers is a great talent, not a great QB. Now go ahead little boys and whine about the phony deflategate story, if that helps you sleep at night

  64. jeffreyshulenburg says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:38 PM

    If the Packers are stupid enough to fire Mccarthy for 1 bad year then its their loss.

    If he really is fired, the Bills should fire Rex Ryan literally the next minute and jump on him. Rex is underrated as a coach and doesnt deserve all the flack he gets, but McCarthy is a whole different tier

    As a lifelong Packers fan who remembers the wandering through the wilderness the Packers did for 20+ years we better be careful of what we are asking for. As jeffreyshulenburg and others have said an NFL team will be there ready to swoop in and hire him almost immediately.
    Then what? have a fantasy that Gruden will coach them?
    Have we really become this spoiled as Packers fans that a Super Bowl winning coach who gets our team to the post season for seven years running, and won multiple division titles we want him gone? I will say it first if he is fired mark my words this season is going to be considered a good one for a few years.

  65. If the Patriots use Free Agency, then the Packers certainly shouldn’t act like they’re too goo to use it….

  66. And the once great dynasty of A. Rodgers is now showing cracks. What did this stud win? One ring? Dime a dozen. Not so much to rank him up there with the best.

  67. Be careful what you wish for Packer fans. 49er fans went from Jim Harbaugh to Tomsula and then Chip kelly

  68. Steeler fans might trade you a Tomlin for a McCarthy… The change of scenery could help both of them. LOL

  69. Bob McGinn is a sports reporter who loves to rattle the tree. He hates McCarthy and Thompson. He’s been booted from the interview room before and McCarthy just won’t answer his pointed negative questions.
    The story here is about McGinn, not McCarthy.
    Viking trolls, go take care of your own messes before throwing barbs at us.

  70. The Packers haven’t had any enthusiasm and encouragement on the sidelines since Kevin Greene retired (or was forced out) from coaching

  71. filthymcnasty3 says:
    Nov 7, 2016 11:25 AM
    I hear Norv Turner is available.
    —-
    Wouldnt be the first time the Packers took a former Viking for an instant upgrade.

  72. “Have we really become this spoiled as Packers fans that a Super Bowl winning coach who gets our team to the post season for seven years running, and won multiple division titles we want him gone? ”

    The key phrase is “who gets our team to”.

    I think he’s a beneficiary, and not the reason. He’s had HOF caliber QB play his entire Packer coaching career, along with some other stars and good/great personnel.
    He is at best an average coach.

  73. Does anyone wanna win the North?? People are either bailing or getting hurt in Minnesota, GB is getting old and doesn’t have the talent at the skill positions anymore but sure blame McCarthy. Detroit needs miracle finishes to beat anyone, that not a recipe for any successful season and then theres Chicago..

  74. Rogers is a fair-weather “team” guy. When they win, he’s all smiles. When they lose, the little drama queen starts throwing people under the bus.

    It’s a tired old theme, and so too, are the tired old fans willing to excuse such garbage.

    Just like Favre before him, he’ll finish his career with just the one lone championship, while better, true, team guys will have much greater success with other franchises.

  75. The team came out flat no doubt about it, and that Kick Off returned for a TD probably had everything to do with it.

    GB needs to keep their heads up and keep on trucking. Lot of season, but they need to get do better vs. man that is certainly clear, I would like to see Rodgers take what the Def gives him, when he scrambles I understand taking shots and trying to stretch the field, but when you have 10 yards of field and people are in man coverage use the legs.

    Viking trolls are talking a lot of smack for a team thats last win came before Columbus day.

  76. Lets see.
    The Packers are 4-4 because….

    1. They don’t have any “juice”.
    2. They are not “focused”.
    3. They are not “clicking yet”.
    4. They came out “flat”.
    5. They have been highly over rated and are in fact just a mediocre team on the decline.

    Since I am not a Packer fan blinded by Green & Gold colored glasses I am going to go with # 5.

  77. I’ve never been a fan of McCarthy relaxed and predictable play calling but as long as we were winning I was ok with it. The loss to Seattle in the NFC championship game was the last straw for me.

  78. The person to blame for the Packers woes is father time not McCarthy. It is painfully obvious that Aaron Rodgers is on the decline and can’t do the things he once could. That’s not on McCarthy.

  79. How about some cheese with your whine, Aaron?? Have to rank him at #1 in the cry-baby category above Cutler and Rivers. Even when things go his way and the Pack is winning, he can be seen on the sideline griping it up. Knowing that he still has a beef with Favre speaks volumes to his insecurity and crappy attitude. Get over it bro, Brett’s a first ballot HOF’er, you have a LONG way to go..

  80. I’m curious. How does the Green Bay team handle this kind of thing? There are a lot of ‘owners’ of the Packers, so who does the firing? Is there like a Representative who fires and hires and answers to the public owners? I’ve never quite grasped how it all works.

  81. Why don’t the “owners” have a meeting, and maybe shake things up a bit with the personnel? Oh wait…

    I’m no Packer fan, and Rodgers has made me drink plenty, but don’t waste a HoF QB. They’re very few and far between.

  82. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Nov 7, 2016 3:03 PM
    The person to blame for the Packers woes is father time not McCarthy. It is painfully obvious that Aaron Rodgers is on the decline and can’t do the things he once could. That’s not on McCarthy.

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    It’s painfully obvious that if you watch any football objectively, Rodgers has not lost anything yet. The problems in GB are talent and coaching. Talent around him and a coach that needs to coach him up. All those homerun balls look like lack of discipline to the system and being frustrated. He looks like Favre when Sherman was here. Rodgers is hardly looking like Manning his last two years.

    You would think a guy who has watched Brady all these years would have a better viewpoint but a fanboy is a fanboy.

  83. I have been a long time defender of Thompson 80% of the time and McCarthy 90% of the time. I also think the previous comments regarding “be careful what you wish for” are very wise, such as dumping Harbaugh for Tomsula.

    However, this loss to the Colts feels very different. For many years not the Vikings start hot and the Packers get stronger in November and December. But this was a bad loss, especially after getting blown out by Dallas at Lambeau.

    Bill Walsh knew that a coaching regime gets stale after a decade. McCarthy’s done very well; his record speak for itself, regardless of what the adolescent fat-joke crowd says. It’s a very impressive piece of work. He resurrected Favre’s focus and developed Rodgers and won a Super Bowl. And his overall W-L record is very, very good. But…all good things end, and it may be time.

  84. Can we FINALLY please recognize that the Packers are simply not that good – not horrible – but not that good and, just because they have Aaron Rodgers (admittedly a HOF QB) doesn’t mean they always get ranked in the top 10 regardless. They are competitive only because the rest of the division (and most of the NFL) is pretty mediocre.

    No matter what, I bet the Packers still get ranked top 10 tomorrow.

  85. technically the sideline extends infinitely away from the field.

    “rodgers throws entire packers org, and half of cheesebo under giant bus”

  86. It is obvious, the coaches are not preparing the players properly. Practice doesn’t make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. There is something lacking in the preparation, and McCarthy is fully responsible for that. His “hot seat” is well deserved.

  87. For everyone on here saying that McCarthy is a “great” coach can you back that up with any facts? 11 years, 1 SB, 2 NFC Championship games (1-1) and then what??? 5 division titles? what the hell does that get you? They 15-1 and got beat in their first game against the Giants. I love the Packers but my god give me a break with the “McCarthy is a great coach” BS.
    108–59–1 (.646) Regular Season
    8–7 (.533) Playoff’s

    The 8-7 playoff’s record show that the 108-59-1 is really misleading. Take the SB run out and their 4-7.

    It’s time at the end of the year…Mike McCarthy…..”You’re Fired”

    P.S. if McCarthy can help swing Wisconsin to Trump tomorrow well I’ll give him another year.

  88. There is rampant stubborness in McCarthy as well as Thompson and no one to hold them accountable. Mark Murphy appears to be milk toast. Therefore when things go south, where does the fear come from? Always been true with GB even when Bob Harlan there – that’s why it took almost 30 years of misery to turn it around the last time.

  89. The only coach needing to be fired is Capers. His Defensive schemes are terrible. The true enemy of the Packers is GM Ted Thompson. Thompson’s ego is writing checks his ass can’t cash. He die hard refusal to go out and get veteran help is killing the Packers. We’ve needed a TE for yrs, Ted did nothing, we need solid pass rushing, still nothing and we certainly need help at the LB spot if you are going to run the 3-4 an seeing how Matthews cant stay healthy. If Mark Murphy had any balls which he doesn’t he would give Thompson the boot and soon…

  90. dabearsbus says:
    Nov 7, 2016 12:18 PM
    It’s been quietly reported, and swept under the rug, for some time that Rodgers dislikes McCarthy. McCarthy stepping down from his play calling duties a while back was a direct result of Rodgers being a diva and subtly calling out the gameplans in press conferences. This is another example of A-Rod refusing to take the blame and bus chucking everyone around him. He loves to bask in the glory as the leader of the team when things are going well, but refuses to shoulder any blame or do the things leaders are supposed to do when times get a little rough.

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    This is a bunch of crap. You are so clueless, it’s silly.
    McCarthy giving up play calling was a direct result of his losing control over the team in the playoff loss to Seattle.
    And who says Rodgers dislikes McCarthy? And even if he does dislike him, so what? Terry Bradshaw hated Chuck Knoll, and all they did was win 4 Super Bowls together. Phil Simms hated Bill Parcells, too — and how’d that work out? Rodger Staubach wasn’t all that happy playing for Tom Landry, either. Relationships between QB’s and head coaches is very overblown. They don’t have to like each other, all they have to do is respect one another.
    As for Rodgers blming his teammates, he is 100% right in what he said after that game. The team was listless right from the get-go. And he didn’t mention any names and even included himself in it.
    You’re a Bears an, huh? You should worry more about your space cadet QB than Aaron Rodgers. Jay Cutler is as loony as they come. Maybe if he had some gumption he wouldn’t have quit in that game against the Packers a few years ago.
    Aaron Rodgers goes out and plays his heart out on every play. He is the best player on the Packers, and it isn’t even close. Your Bears would love to have him. And so would 90% of the other teams in the NFL.
    And btw — for all of you are burying the Packers, there’s still a long way to go. It aint over til it’s over.

  91. Haha. Packers aren’t firing a coach who takes them to the playoffs every year. They will win the division. Why? Because Minnesota and Detroit only know one thing, and that’s collapses when it all counts, heck I’ll bet you Green Bay finds their way to atleast the divionsal round of the playoffs. If you put Rodgers in an indoor stadium, I’ll guarantee you they reach the NFL champ game and possibly the Super Bowl. Rodgers is the best quarterback in the NFL in indoor stadiums.

  92. Wow some of these so called packer fans must be as dumb as Hillary voters. This team will not make the playoffs this year or next year. They have no as in zero talent. No pro bowl caliber players and coaches that cant coach. Keep buying those expensive tickets and drinking the green and gold cool aide. There toast.

  93. Classic case of “don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.”

    Following the NFC title game collapse McCarthy felt the need to make significant changes, bad idea.

    Just play to win at the end. Other than that there was no need to change anything.

  94. Minor adjustments. Call timing routes. 1-2-3 or 1-2-3-4-5 and throw to a spot. These guys can’t get open while Aaron runs around.

    Throw to Jordy one and one like you used to Rodgers.

  95. you let him go and who are you gonna hire that’s better?
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    I’ve seen this question a few times too many. What do you people mean “who”? Don’t several teams change their coaching staff every year? It must mean there are coaches available. Seattle doesn’t seem to mind that they found Carroll in the college ranks. Jim Harbaugh made the 9ers became relevant againt overnight. Marvin Lewis took a horrible, dead-last Cincy team and made them a playoff-caliber team. Sure there are lots of examples of failed coaches as well, but my point is: there are options out there. Not changing at all because you don’t think there are is asinine.

  96. I’m sick and tired of hearing we don’t have a running back. It’s pretty much been that way since the start of the season. But did Terrible Ted (TT) do anything except hide his wallet and trust in undrafted free agents. You know what an undrafted free agent is? A guy who 32 teams passed on 7 times. That’s got to make you feel comfortable.

    So TT caves under pressure in decides to bring in a “experienced” player too late in the season. Oh yeah that didn’t work either apparently his scouts couldn’t figure out in advance that Davis was non performer…..two weeks after the trade. So now we’ve wasted another month and TT to the rescue with another loser who was cut by the Bears cut a year ago.

    Memo to TT we’ve seen the movie before. Get out of town.

  97. And put TT on the hot seat there with him. Drafting inexpensively is nice, but eventually you need first-round level talent to come through for you and help out your future HoF QB.

  98. pkrlvr says:
    Nov 7, 2016 10:13 AM

    I wouldn’t mind seeing a full house cleaning next year from the coaching staff to the gm. I love draft and develop but the lack of spending in free agency is tiresome and McCarthy just doesn’t seem to have that spark anymore.
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    TT has gambled that Rodgers can cover for the lack of quality players with his ability, but you can’t make great throws to receivers that can’t get open or don’t have top-end speed, even with great pass-protection. TT has wasted several of Rodgers’ prime years with his cheapskate approach to filling out this team.

  99. If McCarthy gets fired, some other team is going to snap him up. There are going to be several head coaching vacancies after the season ends and McCarthy will fill one of them.

  100. McCarthy isn’t going anywhere. He’s the 2nd winningest coach behind Bill Belichick.

    He’s not on the hot seat. His seat isn’t even warm.

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