Maybe Buffalo’s spike should have been ruled intentional grounding, after all

The decision not to penalize the Bills for intentional grounding for the spike aimed not at stopping the clock but consuming a snap perhaps has become more curious, given a separate, obscure area of the rule book.

By way of background, a source with knowledge of the situation explained on Wednesday morning to PFT that the Buffalo spike was permitted due to the extenuating circumstances arising from the sequence of events — even though the letter of the rule strongly suggests that the spike can be used only to stop a running game clock. For Buffalo, the clock was stopped when the play began.

A source with a team not connected to the Bills-Seahawks game, intrigued by the ruling, did a little more digging. The NFL’s Official Casebook contains a variety of “Approved Rulings” that demonstrate the application of the rules. And here’s the content of A.R. 8.87: “The game clock is stopped with six seconds left in the first half. [The quarterback] takes the snap and immediately spikes the ball into the ground to take one second off the clock so that a field-goal attempt will run out the clock.”

The approved ruling? “Half over. Intentional grounding and a 10-second runoff. A QB can only spike the ball to stop a running game clock. An attempt to take time off the clock is intentional grounding.”

While not a clear apples-to-apples comparison, since the Bills didn’t spike the ball to consume time but to consume a snap so that kicker Dan Carpenter could return to the game, the language is unmistakable: “A QB can only spike the ball to stop a running game clock.”

For the Bills, the game clock wasn’t running. It appears, then, that the officials made a third error in one of the most bizarre sequences in recent memory.

So what could the Bills have done in this situation? They should have lined up in shotgun formation, the quarterback should have sprinted to the edge of the tackle box, and then he should have fired the ball out of bounds beyond the line of scrimmage.

Sure, they had only three seconds to pull it off. But that would have been a permitted maneuver. What they tried to do shouldn’t have been.

Should the officials be blamed for that? Maybe, but perhaps only if they were full-time employees who had the ability to spend their time on Monday through Friday not practicing law or selling janitorial supplies or officiating college basketball games but, you know, reading the rulebook.

39 responses to “Maybe Buffalo’s spike should have been ruled intentional grounding, after all

  1. During the game, I thought they would be forced to take a 10-second runoff due to the trainer on the field that counted as a “4th timeout”.

    That 7 minute, 4 second scenario to complete the final 3 seconds of the half was confusing as hell.

  2. Or, we can just completely eliminate the intentional spike as a play. It is ridiculous to stop the clock on a pass that never targeted a player and did not cross the line of scrimmage. That is the definition of grounding.

    Want to avoid grounding, the pass must travel beyond the line of scrimmage.

  3. The clock was stopped when the play began, but was running when the ball was spiked, stopping the clock.

    Simple.

  4. They should have called the 15 yard person foul for unnecessary roughing for hitting our kicker. That would have fixed everything and been the right call according to Dean Blandino.

  5. Much ado about nothing. And enough with the full time refs stuff. What the heck would they do all offseason? That is the single dumbest argument there is. It wouldn’t help one iota.

  6. If we’re going to argue this as black and white with the rule, shouldn’t we then start expecting the officials to call intentional grounding when they throw it at the feet of the running back on a blown up screen pass? Yes there’s a receiver in the area but most times the ball doesn’t make it back to the line of scrimmage, the QB is still inside the tackle box and the QB is obviously throwing the ball away. So why is that allowed but this wouldn’t be?

    Although the officials screwed up not calling the penalty on the previous play, this was a good common sense decision.

  7. I just found it hilarious that the logic implied by the referees at the time, was the kicker had to come out of the game for a snap. Think about that. NFL referees basically encouraged that play by Seattle. In their minds that was how a half of football should end. How for a second could they think the way they interpreted the situation was correct? They discussed it for quite sometime. Such a shame.

  8. It looks like every other game the refs makes big mistakes against or for the Hawks. Falcons game for the seahawks favor. Saints game against the hawks.. Bills game for the hawks…. See a pattern. I wouldn’t be surprise the refs favor the Pats more this week.. We’ll see… CONSPIRACY ? or just plain bad officiating ….

  9. It wasn’t “Roughing the Kicker” due to Sherman touching the ball and the referees ruling the play dead due to unabated to the kicker.

    It wasnt’t “Unnecessary Roughness” due to the refs not blowing the play dead until after the kick.

    The spike was only necessary because the kicker dove and grabbed his knee like any soccer player in the same situation.

    Sorry you missed it?

  10. joetoronto says:
    Nov 9, 2016 4:34 PM
    Time to move on.

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    Seriously. Even the resident Bills basher is telling you to move on from this game. Stop trying to make headlines about Rex and the Bills. We are 4-5, we are a depressed fan base (again), we are out of the playoffs (again) so just leave us the hell alone. We lost and we suck. We get it already.

  11. If your kicker doesn’t flop, the trainers don’t come out on the field.

    If the trainers don’t come out on the field, your kicker doesn’t have to leave the field for at least one play.

    Look to your own team for the reasons you lost.

  12. RegisHawk says:
    Nov 9, 2016 5:37 PM
    If your kicker doesn’t flop, the trainers don’t come out on the field.

    If the trainers don’t come out on the field, your kicker doesn’t have to leave the field for at least one play.

    Look to your own team for the reasons you lost.
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    Agreed. And, furthermore, for those saying that Sherman knew the play was dead and should have stopped, I say then Carpenter should have stopped too. If he doesn’t follow through with the kick, he doesn’t get decked. Absent Carpenter’s flop, this was a no harm, no foul situation.

  13. “a source with knowledge of the situation explained on Wednesday morning to PFT that the Buffalo spike was permitted due to the extenuating circumstances arising from the sequence of events ”
    ___________

    I’m calling shenanigans on that one. Zero chance the same crew who missed calling unnecessary roughness and stood over the ball to cause a delay of game penalty were looking for ways to cut the Bills some slack on the spike. Bet the farm that the officials had no clue the rules said you couldn’t spike the ball in that situation, else they’d have flagged them for it.

  14. They should be able to make things up as they go along to get the desired effect of what the NFL really wants to happen. Sound familiar? Any Ted Wells report works backwards to get to the answer the league wants.

  15. RegisHawk says:
    Nov 9, 2016 5:37 PM
    If your kicker doesn’t flop, the trainers don’t come out on the field.

    If the trainers don’t come out on the field, your kicker doesn’t have to leave the field for at least one play.

    Look to your own team for the reasons you lost.
    ___________________________________
    If your player did not jump offsides none of this would have happened.
    If your player would have not aimed for the kickers plant leg none of this would have happened.
    If your quick twitch, intelligent cornerback would have either taken a path to block the kick (like normal) or jump on the ball still in the hands of the holder instead of magically putting his shoulders through the plant leg of the kicker none of this would have happened.

    Look to your own tam for the reasons this occurred.

  16. A source with a team not connected to the Bills-Seahawks game, intrigued by the ruling, did a little more digging.
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    Who do you think?… Belichick or Ernie Adams

  17. Remember when intentional grounding was called solely in an effort to avoid a sack?
    Like in the grasp.
    Regardless of intent, spiking the ball in that situation is never to avoid the sack but is questioned based on location of qb depending on in the pocket or not? Stupid.

    Either eliminate the spike as a clock stopper all together or allow it in any situation provided it’s not s clear avoidance of the sack.

    And I love the people claiming Rex Ryan would ever get favors from the league.

  18. Let’s call that reason number 32,981,654 that ratings are taking a tumble.

    And that marks number 387,166 of blown, missed or wrong calls that directly effect the outcome of prime-time games in Seattle.

    #hotgarbage
    #ratingsnightmare
    #thefixisin

  19. voiceofrealism says:
    Nov 9, 2016 4:26 PM

    The clock was stopped when the play began, but was running when the ball was spiked, stopping the clock.

    Simple.
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    Yep. Why would anyone ever need to spike the ball when the clock was stopped?

  20. RegisHawk says:
    Nov 9, 2016 5:37 PM
    If your kicker doesn’t flop, the trainers don’t come out on the field.

    If the trainers don’t come out on the field, your kicker doesn’t have to leave the field for at least one play.

    Look to your own team for the reasons you lost.
    +++++++++++++++

    If your DB wasn’t a db it wouldn’t have happened either.

  21. mmack66 says:
    Nov 9, 2016 6:35 PM

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    Yep. Why would anyone ever need to spike the ball when the clock was stopped?
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    Now we know why………after a kicker rolls on the ground clutching the wrong leg trying to get a penalty with his team having any timeouts at the end of the half. Leave it to Seattle games for all of us to be enlightened with obscure rules nobody paid attention to or had ever seen needing to be enforced.

  22. jackedupboonie says:
    Nov 9, 2016 6:50 PM

    Now we know why………after a kicker rolls on the ground clutching the wrong leg trying to get a penalty with his team having any timeouts at the end of the half.
    ———————–

    So, at the end of a half, when a guy is offsides and runs into the kicker, on the next play, the clock doesn’t start when the ball is snapped?

    No wonder the officials are confused.

  23. 1) Sherman was definitely off sides but was playing to the whistle as any competent player would do.

    2) Sherman had left his feet diving for the ball when the whistle blew stopping the play…this has already been proven. He could not stop at this point.

    3) Sherman made contact with the ball prior to touching the kicker…easily seen on replays.

    4) Once the ball is touched the kicker is fair game and no personal foul can be called.

    5) No personal foul was called, which was the correct call.

    Blandino does not know the rules and it appears many others don’t either.

  24. I can’t for the life of me recall a play when a spike was used to stop the game clock when it wasn’t running. Of course it starts when the ball is snapped, but I’ve only seen it used when a team was out of time outs and the game clock was running, to stop the clock. Never snapped to start the clock then immediately spiked to stop it again. Not once before. Not in 40 years.

  25. How about doing this next time something like this comes up?
    “Have the QB in shot gun with a RB just one yard closer to the LOS and a yard to the QBs left or right.
    The QB receives the snap and whips the ball at the RB’s legs. Boom.
    Incomplete pass, clock stops & even stupid officials can make this easy call. Right?”

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