Former Browns, Patriots exec sees a Garoppolo trade to Cleveland

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A former Browns and Patriots executive is talking up the possibility that the Browns and Patriots will make a trade for quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo in the offseason.

Mike Lombardi, a longtime friend and colleague of Patriots coach Bill Belichick who also served as G.M. of the Browns in 2013, said on FS1 that he thinks the trade would make sense for both teams.

“The next quarterback that’ll be the Cleveland Browns’ quarterback perhaps is Jimmy Garoppolo in New England,” Lombardi said, via the Akron Beacon Journal. “I think Cleveland understands, [coach] Hue Jackson specifically understands he needs a quarterback. I think they’ll be very aggressive. I think Jimmy Garoppolo’s on top of their list, and I think they’ll go hard after him.”

Lombardi didn’t work with the current brass in Cleveland, and when he was last with the Patriots Garoppolo had never started a regular-season game, so he may not have a lot of insight into the teams’ current thinking about Garoppolo’s worth. The trade could make sense, though. The Browns still need to find a franchise quarterback, and most draft analysts don’t think there’s a franchise quarterback available in the 2017 NFL draft. And the Patriots, who are set at quarterback with Tom Brady, may think that there’s no reason not to acquire something of value for Garoppolo.

Garoppolo is under contract next year at just $820,000 before hitting free agency in 2018. That means the Patriots are under no salary cap pressure to trade him and can drive a hard bargain. The Browns, with two first-round picks and two second-round picks in the 2017 NFL draft, may be the team best suited to putting together a package that would pry Garoppolo out of New England.

84 responses to “Former Browns, Patriots exec sees a Garoppolo trade to Cleveland

  1. it’s Lombardi.. don’t trust a word. Whenever I see his name or LaCanfora’s attached to a Browns article I laugh.. best buds who hate the Browns..

  2. Oh man. Jimmy G must really have ticked off Billy B. Lining up behind center in the Factory of Sadness is a fate I wouldn’t wish on anyone – except maybe the pudgy fingered orange one.

  3. Tony grossi predicted several weeks or months ago that Lombardi would go the the press on behalf of bellichik to start driving up the price on garapolo to the browns. Truly prophetic. It has begun.

  4. Would free them up to either take the best player at #1 or trade out and get another boatload of picks.

    How good is Mitch Trubisky?

  5. It baffles me that so many teams always clamor for the Patriots’ backup QB, always relatively unknown, and none of them have worked out so far.

  6. I could see this happening. Brady shows no signs of hanging them up soon. Brissett needs a couple more years before starting. Something like the Browns second first rounder and a swap of second round picks.

  7. Think Belichick is going to try and find a way to keep Jimmy G. If they think he is the heir apparent to Brady (who will be 40 next season) they’ll find a way to keep him even if it means they passed on a 1st round draft choice. Quality QB’s are THAT hard to find and from what we’ve seen of Jimmy G he seems to have “it”….. smart , mobile, not intimidated by the moment, etc. If the Patriots do trade him (he’s got one more year on his contract) whoever gets Jimmy G will be happy they made that trade. The kid can play and that’s Belichick’s problem…..the young guy can play and the 40 year HOF’er is still playing at a very high level.

  8. As a Pats fan, here is my take on this.

    The Browns are inept from their swindler owner to their clueless GM, or is it GMs? RGMe? Who thought this was a good idea?

    Too early to judge Hue Jackson because of the roster he was given. He had no chance from the start. This isn’t one of those blatantly obvious tank jobs like Indy’s calculated “Suck for Luck” campaign. The Browns really are this bad.

    As much as I would like to see Jimmy G stay in NE, it probably won’t be possible because Brady will remain the best QB in the league for another 2-3 years. NE isn’t going to be able to pay Jimmy G what he could get on the open market. I mean look at the cluster $%^& in Houston.

    With 2 first rounders, 2 second rounders, and Joe Thomas, look for Sashi et al, to get bamboozled once again.

  9. nunezmc says:
    Dec 10, 2016 8:46 AM
    It baffles me that so many teams always clamor for the Patriots’ backup QB, always relatively unknown, and none of them have worked out so far
    ——
    Well… there was Cassell – who did go to a pro bowl with KC, and then Mallett – who fetched a whopping 7th rounder. Which other ones are you referring to?

  10. If I’m the Patriots, I only do this if I really think Brissett is a long-term answer, because Brady does not have unlimited shelf life (and that’s more a question of injury at his age than it is of desire), or if I’m convinced I will find the next unheralded Prescott, which isn’t easy. Garoppolo looks like a surer answer than the other two possibilities.

  11. stew48 says:
    Dec 10, 2016 8:56 AM
    Brady is 40….

    Brady is actually 39, he turns 40 next August, and he remains the best QB in the NFL today, as well as the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time.

    OTOH, yes, he cannot play forever even though it looks like he will play forever. If the Pats really like what they see in Brissett then I imagine they will be willing to trade Garoppolo if they get a good offer.

  12. Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!! No! No! No! No! No! What more do patriots quarterbacks need to do to prove it’s the system, cheating, and the belicheck, and not the quarterback. You don’t win trades with the patriots. Lombardi is a buffoon. Thanks for helping with that Mingo draft Mike. We’re reaping the benefits.

  13. It would be easier to lend weight to the idea if the source wasn’t Lombardi. The idea of ‘moneyball as a football philosophy gets derided a lot here but the reality is Belichick has been practicing a football version of it since he arrived in NE. From that standpoint it’s not hard to see that the Browns front office and NE would be speaking some of the same language and that goes a long way in facilitating trades. If Garoppolo is going to get traded to an AFC team it would make sense that Belichick would want it to be in the AFCN or AFCS, he sure as heck doesn’t want to see the kid land in Denver, and in terms of draft capital Cleveland obviously has the most to offer.

  14. I don’t think Jimmy G is going anywhere. Brady is the GOAT. No question about that now. But when does the decline begin ?!nobody knows . Personally I think he has 2 more years after this playing at this level.

  15. I’m not so sure there is a hell worse than being a fan of the Cleveland Browns. Considering the ineptitude of their front office, I also don’t think there is a more aptly named team.

  16. Nothing a bunch of high draft picks cant hurt the Patriots. !!! The Patriots also have a league high 69 million in cap space for 2017…….get ready for another 10-15 years of dominance………

  17. .
    A Garappolo deal to Cleveland makes sense for several reasons. Among them :

    1. Garopollo is ready on day one. He’s in his third year of apprenticeship. He’s won NFL games. Any drafted QB is a question mark.

    2. Cleveland must give their fans hope that they’re trying to fix things. Another Josh McCown year will not suffice.

    3. Hue Jackson is an offensive guy. He’s aware that a productive QB is essential. He’s got to salivate over anyone with such a quick release as Garopollo.

    4. Cleveland has some other pieces of the puzzle. They’re only a decent QB away from being competitive in the parity rife AFC North.

    5. The Patriots should be happy to trade Garopollo for picks (which would not have been nearly as valuable if Roger Goodell hadn’t ordered the Garopollo audition). Belichick would certainly like to be the team in control of this year’s draft while sitting on the largest cap space in the league.
    .

  18. The headline alone might be enough to make Garoppolo burst into tears.

    However, Brady is old enough for the Patriots to start grooming his successor. Why not keep Garoppolo for that, instead of trading him for a draft pick to use in a draft class that may not have a franchise quarterback in it?

    Alternately, the Panthers could grab him. It’d be easier to work on his tan down here, and I bet he always wears a tie.

  19. Most people wouldn’t want to see the trade. They don’t care if it would be beneficial to the Browns. They are simply scared it will be more beneficial to the Patriots.

  20. The Pats almost have to trade JG this offseason if they want to get anything for him. Brady looks like he has at least 2-3 good yrs left. After 2017, it’s gonna be too expensive to keep both(I don’t think they’d ever trade TB). JG is gonna want to hit the market after ’17 and pk where he wants to go to start. If you franchise him, now you have >45mil of your cap tied up in the QB position. One of which doesn’t play. That’s why I think they brought Brissett back from IR. It’s a pretty useless move other than to get him as ready as they can to be a backup next yr.

  21. Hope the Pats retain Garrappollo. If they do trade him they should get at least 2 first rounders for him.

  22. .
    I should have added these to the reasons why a Garoppolo to Cleveland deal makes sense :

    6. The Patriots and Browns have a recent trading history. They’ve made the Barkevious Mingo and Jaime Collins deals prior. It’s easier to make trades with those you know from previous negotiations.

    7. Cleveland would implode if Garopollo went to one of the other QB hungry teams (Chicago, San Francisco, New Orleans or Arizona), and had immediate success while they were living through a red shirt season with an unproven rookie.
    .

  23. The fact that people actually think Brady is the best QB ever and even best player ever baffles me. This team has won 75% of their games when Brady is hurt or suspended for cheating. Per season, that would be a 12-4 record WITHOUT Brady.

    Look at the Colts without Peyton. The Steelers without Ben. Hell, the Cowboys without Romo last season. That is how other teams look without their star QB. Brady is nothing more than a product of both the system that he is in and his team cheating for years. The were winning before him. They win now without him. They will win when he retires. Calling him the best is a joke.

  24. I think many fail to consider the main reason why Garrapolo and Prescott have had success is that they went to winning and established teams. Not saying these guys suck, but going to a horrible team in building has a major effect on their development or lack there of. If Garolpolo goes to Cleveland he will be out of the league in 3 years. Brisset is not the answer and the Pats front office is too smart to get rid of Garapolo when he is essentially working for minimum wage. If their is a trade; it will be next year when they know more about Bradys play level.

  25. Unless Brady announces 2017 will be his final season, you have to get what you can for Jimmy G now. If he leaves in FA, you get a compensatory 3rd.

    If you can get a 2nd + now, do it because if you franchise him, he’d make more than Brady.

    He was kind of a wasted pick to begin with. A 2nd rounder who played 1 1/2 games in 3 years. Might as well get something back for him.

  26. The reason Cleveland must trade for a QB…

    The “draft analysts” don’t think there is a franchise QB in the 2017 draft…..Geesh looks a past drafts. These “experts” generally miss.

    Cleveland has 2 first rounders, just like 2014 and 2015…….I do not think they are just a QB away

    I’d let Hue decide. He seems to be have good judgement when it comes to talent

  27. aldashex86 says:
    Dec 10, 2016 10:41 AM
    The fact that people actually think Brady is the best QB ever and even best player ever baffles me. This team has won 75% of their games when Brady is hurt or suspended for cheating. Per season, that would be a 12-4 record WITHOUT Brady.

    Look at the Colts without Peyton. The Steelers without Ben. Hell, the Cowboys without Romo last season. That is how other teams look without their star QB. Brady is nothing more than a product of both the system that he is in and his team cheating for years. The were winning before him. They win now without him. They will win when he retires. Calling him the best is a joke.

    You cherry picked the 12-4 record without Brady to make your lame point

    Why did you leave out the fact that BB was 5-12 without Brady as the starter when Bledsoe was the QB then Brady entered and they went on to win the SB

    And your Peyton and Steelers argument is also wrong! (No surprise)
    The year before Manning was out the Colts won 10 games
    The next season there firt choice to replace him was a retired QB
    Then he got hurt then they went to his backup
    Then they sucked for Luck

    In the end they won 7 games
    They year before Brady was hurt the Patriots won 18 games the next year with Cassle they won 11, 7 FEWER (same difference ) and did not beat a team with a winning record.

    and when Ben was suyfor 4 games the Steelers went 3-1
    Same as Brady

    I’ll ask again

    How is it that all these former players and coaches are all wrong about Brady but you have it all figured out?

  28. aldashex86 says:
    Dec 10, 2016 10:41 AM
    The fact that people actually think Brady is the best QB ever and even best player ever baffles me. This team has won 75% of their games when Brady is hurt or suspended for cheating. Per season, that would be a 12-4 record WITHOUT Brady.

    Look at the Colts without Peyton. The Steelers without Ben. Hell, the Cowboys without Romo last season. That is how other teams look without their star QB. Brady is nothing more than a product of both the system that he is in and his team cheating for years. The were winning before him. They win now without him. They will win when he retires. Calling him the best is a joke.

    And based on that STUPID logic I guess we can’t call Montana the best either

    Young stepped in and they didn’t miss a beat and won a SB

  29. ricko1112 says:
    Dec 10, 2016 9:08 AM

    As a Pats fan, here is my take on this.

    The Browns are inept from their swindler owner to their clueless GM, or is it GMs? RGMe? Who thought this was a good idea?

    Too early to judge Hue Jackson because of the roster he was given. He had no chance from the start. This isn’t one of those blatantly obvious tank jobs like Indy’s calculated “Suck for Luck” campaign. The Browns really are this bad.

    As much as I would like to see Jimmy G stay in NE, it probably won’t be possible because Brady will remain the best QB in the league for another 2-3 years. NE isn’t going to be able to pay Jimmy G what he could get on the open market. I mean look at the cluster $%^& in Houston.

    With 2 first rounders, 2 second rounders, and Joe Thomas, look for Sashi et al, to get bamboozled once again.

    __

    As a Patriots fan, I’m sure you jumped on the bandwagon along with everyone else.

    As a Browns fan, (we thankfully don’t have bandwagons), here is my take..

    Yes, it is fair to criticize the many variations of front offices the Browns have had since 1999. And yes, it’s easy for front runners to bash the Browns for any and all reasons.

    The current Browns front office has been in place for almost one season now. It sucks as a fan to watch them strip the roster down like they did and be forced to play a lot of rookies and second year guys and again roll out 4 different qbs due to injury. But it was necessary. To build from the ground up.

    Jimmy G is a nice quarterback but he will be had for a 2nd and 3rd at best.

    I can’t wait for the post Brady era in NE. Get ready to be mediocre again. But you’ll be a Cowboys fan by then.

  30. As a Browns fan I’m fine with this BUT I wouldn’t give a first rounder. He wasn’t a first round pick and he’s played 3 games. Give our pick in round 2 which will be the 33rd pick. That still leaves us 3 picks in the top 50, possibly two in the top 10 and JG. Don’t reach for JG.

  31. Cleveland will draft Garrett. They will likely use the 2nd 1st rounder to parlay more picks for the future while going down a bit to get probably an OT or LB.

    Garoppolos sample size is too small to make anything of it. Also consider the last backup to Brady (Cassell) did a good job in his limited showing only to be exposed for the mediocre QB he was. If KC knew then what they know now, I bet they have no desire to make that trade.

    I think while Cleveland is desperate, math guys are going to look for definitive answers and therefore the value of Garoppolo is too low for NE to consider. In other words, I dont think the Browns would even consider one of their 1sts and likely would use their top second and maybe offer the latter OR trade down a bit more to acquire more assets and then offer to trade that.

  32. The 2 dumbest, least thought out, lazy comments that are repeated by probably 2-3 people here:

    1. It’s not Brady, it’s the “system” of excellence/unbelievable “cheating” skills (they can’t decide which one, of course). Yet no one team can come remotely close to the magic “system” on display for 16 years because, why? They’re completely moronic and inept? They can’t watch game film? Holy leap of logic…

    2. That somehow Matt Cassel and Jimmy G (with his 2 wins) proved that Brady was an unnecessary component in winning anything, ever. As it turns out, you could insert your best friend or Uncle Rico in there and do just as well, sashaying all the way to the Super Bowl every year. That Cassel’s 11-5 record (after Brady went 16-0 the year before) is a large enough sample size to prove that any QB in the last 16 years for the Patriots would have 4 Super Bowls and 10 AFC championship game appearances.

    A. The sample size is wayyyy too small to make any sense of it, and, more importantly, B., what utter nonsense.

  33. I’m tired of seeing that Tom Brady is the best ever. Imagine what Dan Marino would have done in 15 years with this Patriots team.

    4 titles? Marino would have won 8 if not more.

    Brady will always be a system QB. The win with or without him for the most part.

  34. If Garappolo wants to sign a short term deal at intermediate money I expect Bill will keep him. He’ll let the market decide trade value and pull the trigger this off season if he believes in Brissett.

    What a fan with demonstrated bias thinks is inconsequntial. Even Bill doesn’t know what Garappolo’s value will be until the market defines it.

  35. What is the price for Garrapolo? You can’t give a second rounder for just one year can you? I guess the Cards did that with Chandler Jones but it’s different with QBs.

  36. “As a Patriots fan, I’m sure you jumped on the bandwagon along with everyone else.

    As a Browns fan, (we thankfully don’t have bandwagons), here is my take..”
    —————————————————–
    I almost choked on my lunch when I read this! Good grief why on earth would anyone jump on a Browns bandwagon now?! The only possible reason would be there was no room available on the Cavaliers wagon and the Indians is probably getting more full by the minute.

  37. aldashex86 says:
    Dec 10, 2016 10:41 AM

    The fact that people actually think Brady is the best QB ever and even best player ever baffles me. This team has won 75% of their games when Brady is hurt or suspended for cheating. Per season, that would be a 12-4 record WITHOUT Brady.
    ————————————

    If that is true, then Montana was also just a product of a system and of a team that cheated.

    I guess there aren’t any great quarterbacks after all.

  38. war27 says:
    Dec 10, 2016 12:22 PM

    I’m tired of seeing that Tom Brady is the best ever. Imagine what Dan Marino would have done in 15 years with this Patriots team.

    4 titles? Marino would have won 8 if not more.

    Brady will always be a system QB. The win with or without him for the most part.
    ——————————

    Marino was just a product of a system and of the cheating Dolphins.

  39. Jimmy G will cost the Pats less than 1 million next year. Why on Earth would they trade him?
    He is a proven winner, great leader, and the best insurance policy that money could buy.

    Folks, the GOAT will be 40 next year…having a young stud QB sitting on the bench for 1 Million would be better than a few draft picks from Cleveland.

    I’m sure that Cleveland will still need a QB in 2018. Reassess then.

  40. At some point the Patriots are going to have to hang onto one of their backups and replace Tom Brady. I could see Belichick trading Brady for their entire draft class

  41. It is difficult to get a Garrapalo. I would not trade him for draft picks only who would take time to be big contributors. You wan’t him Cleveland? Josh Norman and Terrelle Pryor and a #2. Who would be the Pats successor to Brady and when would he be ready? I’d rather trade Brady to SF.

  42. what do they have to lose ???? 10 or more games///lol. they have been there, done that, most every year…..
    get him, Garrett, 3 wr’s, tight end, 2-3 new o lineman, about 7 guys on d, and 7-9 here they come

  43. I shake my head every time I read “most draft analysts don’t think…….”. It’s almost insane to go back through history and think about that sentence. Obviously, the latest name that comes to mind is Dak Prescott. Tom Brady is on that list. Joe Montana too. Russell Wilson. Brett Favre. Drew Brees. And then there’s the other list of the time most “draft experts” agreed on the can’t miss guys. You know, the Jamarcus Russell’s. Ryan Leaf. RG3. Based on history, you would be crazy not to think there are a few Blue Chip QB prospects in this years draft, whether the “experts” can see them or not. It’s a shame some of these experts can’t get a job with an NFL team. It seems to me lots of teams could use one of those QB experts.

  44. The Browns need to keep their 2 first round picks, and draft Garrett at #1 , then move up from their 2nd first rounder to get Trubisky. Too many wholes to fill to overpay for Garappolo. There’s too small of a sample size to know if he is a franchise QB. or simply put up good numbers with a great system in New England. that being said, I fully expect the Browns eggheads to overthink, and give the Pats a first rounder, a second rounder, or something similar like Joe Thomas, and a second rounder. We’ll see.

  45. Has any player in any sport ever dominated an opponent like Brady has dominated the Bills?

    Still, a never move Bills fan just keeps talking trash on Patriots’ threads.

  46. BB always dumps guys before they run out of gas so how about trading him to coach McDaniels in San Francisco so he can finish his career at home?

  47. I’ve been a fan of the Dolphins for 30 years. Marino is the best passer I’ve ever seen but Brady is a better QB. He’s also had a better team- it certainly helps when you aren’t passing through necessity, which is what Marino had to do to stay in the game. With some of those Dolphin defences, even 30 points wasn’t enough to win.

  48. … and it looks to me that Garappolo just might be better than ANYONE the Bills have had at QB since Jim Kelly.

  49. Brady is not getting traded and Brissett might not be an NFL quarterback. The Patriots are boxed in here. Brady had 2-3 years left and there is a huge cap hit if they trade him. That means Jimmy goes. The only question is when and where.

  50. yes, such a truly awful problem to have…..2 starting-caliber QBs in a league where half the teams don’t even have 1

  51. You know…Brian Hoyer had a 10-4 record as the starter in Cleveland, counting the three he started in 2013 before going down with a torn ACL. But when was the last time the Browns had a starter with that record? They could sign him cheaply without giving up draft picks, use those four early picks to draft some immediate impact players, and become relevant again. And especially don’t use any of those picks on a QB. Just sayin…

  52. Lombardi is such a NE homer on his new position at the Faux network. Absolute homer garbage out of him whenever he speaks. I can’t stand his arrogance either.

  53. I like how the morose rubes tell us that the Patriots are going to be Browns like after Brady retires on one hand but he’s not the real reason their any good on the other hand. Seriously trolls stick with one ridiculous take or the other. Back to the point, I really wonder if trading players away was a way to set the table to at least try to sign him beyond 2017.

  54. Garoppolo being from Illinois and the Bears being in NFC will have nothing to do with the Pats’ thought process if they decide to move him, guy who proffered that silly theory seriously needs to get a clue.

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