Glazer: Giants alerted league to two underinflated Steelers footballs

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Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the wintry elements with footballs inflated precisely at 12.5 pounds per square inch . . . .

Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that the Giants have alerted the league office to the fact that a pair of footballs obtained by their defense during last Sunday’s game at Pittsburgh had less than the minimum air pressure. The Giants have not yet heard back from the NFL.

The Giants likely won’t. As Glazer explained it, there likely won’t be an investigation or protracted disciplinary process.

As the Patriots would say, of course there won’t be, because the league office currently has no reason to prosecute and/or persecute the Pittsburgh Steelers over the trumped-up notion that there was deliberate deflation of footballs.

If the footballs contained 12.5 PSI at kickoff, of course they had less than that later in the game, after the bladders within the pigskin were in the December atmosphere for any period of time.

The bigger question is how far below 12.5 PSI the balls were. The biggest question is whether the league office would act simply on anecdotal evidence without a broader opportunity to test all footballs at the time. Given that the NFL currently has a super-secret PSI spot-check program aimed at ensuring that no one is cheating, common sense and fairness suggests that a team-implemented effort to catch an opponent will get no traction.

Meanwhile, the mere existence of the issue raises questions about the current relationship between the Giants and the Steelers. Long connected at the ownership level, by virtue of a strong relationship between team founders Tim Mara and Art Rooney Sr. and the marriage of Mara’s grandson, Chris, to Rooney’s granddaughter, Kathleen (who owns 10 Super Bowl rings), it’s odd to see the Maras and Rooneys at odds, in any way.

That said, there’s a sense in league circles that John Mara and Art Rooney II aren’t as close as other respective family members are and have been. Whatever the level of kinship between the duo, the Giants have applied a heaping helping of stress to it.

73 responses to “Glazer: Giants alerted league to two underinflated Steelers footballs

  1. Giants should be in trouble for sticking a needle in the Steelers football after ref inspection. That is potential ball manipulation. I don’t really care but the NFL set a prescedent.

  2. After the Patriots got caught, you’d think every team would just air up their footballs outdoors in the elements they will be played…duh

  3. The NFL suspends TB12 because they were clueless regarding the affects of cold weather on footballs ( & tire pressure). Yet bury a story on Pittsburgh.
    The NFL owes the Patriots and TB12 an applogy , and $ million back.
    So much for the lost draft picks!
    Fire Goodell!

  4. I was at the game, it was freezing. Regardless, New England was slammed for this, Goodell needs to suspend Ben and dock the Steelers draft picks. You can say the Patriots were punished for “repeat offenders” and Brady not handing over his phone but Pittsburgh needs to be punished even if they did nothing wrong just like New England was.

  5. Report: Brady spotted in Pittsburgh this past week as pittsburgh, a afc threat, potentially can knock them out of post season. Stay tuned.

  6. The league won’t investigate this because Deflategate was never about deflated footballs, it was always about a group of cowardly owners that were rapidly jealous about how successfull the Patriots have been under Bill Belichick.

    If Lying Rodger Goodell had an once of leadership, he would have immediately put the kibosh on Deflategate and spared the league of the spectacle that has undermined public confidence in the league and directly caused TV ratings to crater.

  7. denverdave3 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 12:56 PM

    And the door is opened to the New England cry babies.

    Say your team got busted. And the worst punishment in league history was handed down..for air pressure…and another team does it..gets caught and nothing is done. Would you be pissed? Nothing will happen here. It isnt a big deal. Deflategate was retalliation for spygate

  8. Dirty cheaters. Steelers should get the same penalty the Patsies got. Pittsburgh has a deplorable organization filled with cheats and racists but I thought that Ben would at least not have to resort to these tactics against the best team in the NFL. It’s an insult to great players like Suggs Flacco Smith and Steve Smith to see this crap happen

  9. After the Patriots got caught, you’d think every team would just air up their footballs outdoors in the elements they will be played…duh
    =================================
    The only thing “caught ” was Mother Nature or the laws of physics.
    There was NO TAMPERING!!

  10. We have been assured by both the league office and numerous Steelers fans the laws of physics do not apply in NFL stadiums ergo the Steelers were cheating again. Surely Ted Wells is already hard at work, ’cause integrity.

  11. And the door is opened to the New England cry babies.

    ——————————————

    It’s 2 years later and everyone sees this as the joke it is. The league didn’t understand science and the pats and Brady got crucified for it for 2 years while fans of all the other teams celebrated.

    But we are cry babies for pointing out the double standard. The steelers have a history of cheating (team doctor/HGH, coach tripping a player), where is the assumption of guilt for them?

  12. Did the Giants stick air needles in them first before reporting them? The Colts doing this to destroy the chain of custody is but one of the many reasons why Kensil now experiences winter all year long at his Alaskan radar tower.

  13. lx2016 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 1:01 PM
    Report: Brady spotted in Pittsburgh this past week…
    ++++++++++++++++

    Man that guy gets around, according to the tire pressure monitoring system in my truck he was apparently in my driveway at some point last night

  14. Goodell has decided that all Steelers 2017 season games shall be played in London to save the Integrity of the Game.

  15. Do I even need to say anything? I’m just gonna watch quietly from up here in New England. Giants, Steelers….Rooneys, Maras…big teams, big names. Can’t duck this one, Rog, the world is watching. Keep it fair…

  16. Easy enough for the league to refute. The league just has to produce the paperwork that shows where the refs tested all the footballs before the game and at halftime with their carefully calibrated equipment. I mean that’s what they said they were going to do so I’m sure that’s what their doing, right?

  17. DenverDave3

    ‘And the door is opened to the New Egland cry babies’

    Really? Well, what say we open yours a bit Dave.

    During Denver’s tumultuous 1998 postseason affair against division rival Kansas City Chiefs, it was rumored that Denver’s offensive line had applied a “slimy” substance to their arms so that Chiefs’ defenders would have a more difficult time reaching quarterback John Elway. These rumors became a reality when head coach Mike Shanahan later admitted to the wrongdoing. Each lineman was fined approximately $5,000 for the offense. Does this take away from the Broncos’ Super Bowl championship from that season?

  18. Wait a minute ….. when the Colts did the exact same thing as the Giants, the league sprang into action and tested the footballs of BOTH teams, and by the very next day, an investigation against New England was underway.

    In this case, there isn’t a single word about whether the Steeler’s footballs were tested, not a word about any “investigation”.

    I didn’t think it was possible for Roger Gooddell to lose anymore integrity, but he’s just proven me wrong.

    Where’s the investigation into the Steelers, Roger? Are you telling us the Steelers aren’t subject to the same rules as the Patriots???

  19. One could say that cold weather (in December…) reduces air pressure.

    But there is another phenomena that happens in December that could cause deflation as well… (worrying about missing the playoffs)

    But who cares. #NotThePatriots.

  20. This scenario pits the Giants against the Steelers… puts Goodell in an awkward spot as he has a bias for both the Rooneys and the Maras… which will he side with?

  21. $5 million dollar investigation, draft picks lost, players suspended, club fined. The NFL literally made a federal case out of it.This time they don’t even return a phone call?

    Something about this story is just wrong. Would someone please ask Goodell?

  22. chippys lost binky says:
    Dec 11, 2016 1:10 PM

    Man that guy gets around, according to the tire pressure monitoring system in my truck he was apparently in my driveway at some point last night
    ====================================

    Don’t tell me. You coincidentally also destroyed your cell phone to coincide with the timing of an impending investigation. Don’t answer that. You’ve said enough already.

  23. flaccojumpball says:
    Dec 11, 2016 1:03 PM
    Dirty cheaters. Steelers should get the same penalty the Patsies got. Pittsburgh has a deplorable organization filled with cheats and racists but I thought that Ben would at least not have to resort to these tactics against the best team in the NFL.
    ___________________

    Thank you for recognizing the Giants as the best team in the NFL, most Ravens fans aren’t that honest with themselves. Beyond the obvious dope slaps the league and Stealers fans that crowed about framegate have coming there’s a very real question that isn’t being being asked here. Why would Mara, a well known Goodell supporter and Patriots villifier, escalate something that could embarrass Goodell and give comfort to New England? As a Giants fan I have always wondered if Wellington Mara ever had John subjected to a paternity test.

  24. Way to go NFL by punishing Brady and the Pats for it now you’ve created a situation where you have to at least investigate other claims (which you won’t) and all over something that you didn’t wanna admit there was a logical explanation for. I haven’t been much of a critic of Goodell but with each passing season and BS fines, suspensions and an obvious selective bias on who he punishes and who he let’s skate by I’m really starting to wish they’d fire this bum

  25. I’m sure the Steelers did not cheat by intentionally deflating footballs, same as the Patriots.

    Intended or not, Mara is doing Kraft and the Patriots a solid by raising the issue.

  26. veddermn8 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 12:55 PM
    Giants should be in trouble for sticking a needle in the Steelers football after ref inspection. That is potential ball manipulation. I don’t really care but the NFL set a prescedent.
    ———–

    To be fair to the Giants, they probably thought this was fine with the Steelers seeing as how they’re ok with Big Ben sticking his needle in things without permission.

  27. bleck5 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 1:32 PM
    It’s sad that the Giant babies don’t understand general chemistry.
    ————————————————————-Chemistry? Never underestimate the brilliance of a Pats fanboy.

  28. I wish I knew the real reasons behind the Pats excessive punishment but we will never know unless goodall under oath has to testify. It’s so obvious to any objective person that these charges were trumped up. The NFL is simply a joke when you evaluate management and consistency. How can they continue to defend part time refs…its actually humorous the you aren’t affected.

  29. veddermn8 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 12:55 PM
    Giants should be in trouble for sticking a needle in the Steelers football after ref inspection. That is potential ball manipulation. I don’t really care but the NFL set a prescedent.
    ————————-

    yet when the Dolts did it to the Pats, no one cared.

  30. veddermn8 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 12:55 PM
    Giants should be in trouble for sticking a needle in the Steelers football after ref inspection. That is potential ball manipulation. I don’t really care but the NFL set a precedent.
    ——————————————————-

    If you don’t really care, they why comment at all?

  31. No action expected because that “super secret spot-check PSI program” has made it clear, to the NFL, that PSI drops in cold weather when footballs are inflated in a warm environment.

    News Flash!

  32. Has King Roger demanded Big Ben turn over his personal cell phone?

    As I’ve said before, worst commissioner in all of sports. Ever. Everything is completely arbitrary.

  33. tb12bestqbevah says:
    Dec 11, 2016 2:35 PM
    Has King Roger demanded Big Ben turn over his personal cell phone?

    As I’ve said before, worst commissioner in all of sports. Ever. Everything is completely arbitrary.

    —————————-

    It’s never been arbitrary. It has always come down to which side his bread has been buttered on. Rog has always looked out for #1.

  34. Suspend Ben, take away the draft pick, fine the Steelers. With the NFL’s new top notch protocol in measuring psi in footballs , seems like a no brainer the Steelers MUST have cheated. And….doesn’t Ben already have a history of offenses he was suspended for? That should make his suspension longer than TBs.

  35. Hilarious.

    Mara, Kraft and Rooney run this league.

    Let the boys sort it out.

    The only reason why the patsies got a slap on the wrist for their latest trangression is because the old boys had an agreement: we’ll destroy the evidence this time, just don’t get your hand caught in the cookie jar again.

    We all know how that turned out.

    Carry on.

    Go Raiders

  36. You mean two of his favorite owners have a conflict? Gosh, what ever will our shady commissioner do?

    Oh, what a tangled web we weave……….

  37. Rooney: ‘These aren’t the droids you’re looking for. We can go about our business.’

    Goodell: ‘These aren’t the droids we’re looking for. You can go about your business.’

  38. tangotwo22 says:
    Dec 11, 2016 2:10 PM

    I wish I knew the real reasons behind the Pats excessive punishment but we will never know unless goodall under oath has to testify.
    ——————————

    That bozo would plead the 5th, or go with the Reagan/Clinton defense. “I can’t recall.”

  39. The math is pretty simple so it easy to understand the decreased pressure. The formula is simple P2=P1*(T2/T1) With the temperature in degrees Kelvin. 70 degrees F = 294 degrees K and 30 degrees F = 272 degrees K. If the balls are inflated to 12.5 psi in a 70 degree F equipment room and then taken outside into 30 degree F weather the pressure will drop. The new pressure when the balls are taken out into the cold (P2) = 12.5*(272/294) = about 11.6 psi. So, I guess they really need to be inflating the balls to the correct pressure out on the sideline, not in the equipment room, particularly when it is cold out.

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