Dungy says every coach knows walkie-talkies are not allowed

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When Giants coach Ben McAdoo violated league rules by using a walkie-talkie to communicate with quarterback Eli Manning on Sunday against the Cowboys, was it an innocent mistake? Or did he knowingly break the rule?

Based on the experience of Tony Dungy, it’s hard to believe McAdoo didn’t know what he was doing.

Dungy said on NFL Network’s NBC-produced Football Night in New York that during his years as an NFL coach, the league made a specific point of making sure that every single coach knows exactly what is and is not allowed when it comes to in-game communications. Dungy said that if the Giants get off easily, he expects that coaches, executives, and owners of other teams will be upset, because it has been impressed upon every team that violating the in-game technology protocols will not be tolerated.

“You cannot use walkie-talkies,” Dungy said. “To me this is very serious. If the league only issues a fine there will be owners calling the league office the next day.”

The league has so far not given any public indication of what might happen to the Giants, but the first reports to surface about the matter indicated that the Giants would only be fined, not stripped of draft picks or otherwise disciplined. Based on Dungy’s comments, a fine may not be enough. If a coach knows it’s against the rules to use a walkie-talkie and does it anyway, the coach should be hit with something that’s really going to hurt, and a five-figure fine for a coach who makes a seven-figure salary isn’t sufficient.

70 responses to “Dungy says every coach knows walkie-talkies are not allowed

  1. Ok? I think its established that teams can do as they please as long as they are aren’t the Patriots. If they are the Patriots then they get punished for weather being cold and filming from 10 feet away from a legal spot.

  2. If Natural loss of air pressure in a football due to cold weather is equivalent to PED’s (according to Goodell), then Giants Coaches communicating with QB Eli must be equivalent to PED use by the whole Team!!!!!!!!!

    Give the Patriots the Giants 1st & 4th round picks and suspend both McAdoo & Eli immediately.

  3. Giants should face just as harsh a penalty as the patriots faced. Lost draft picks, etc. Also Eli should also be suspended 4 games.

    Steelers also need to face similar punishment for deflategate II. The NFL brought this silliness on themselves with idiot Goodell leading the charge. Now do I think any of these cases should be penalized that harshly? No but Goodell and the league set the precedent. A prior post during at the height of the silly deflategate fiasco I stated Tagliabeau who was a cimmissioner with legal training would have never let it get that far because he understood how setting precedence works and his mind was trained to think through that way. Meanwhile Goodell has a background in marketing and has proven with his actions in bountygate, the Ray Rice case, deflategate, Adrian Peterson case…..to have no clue at all of how to use his disciplinary powers. He is a hack that should only be in charge of marketing the game at most.

  4. It will be interesting to see how the sports media reacts to this blatant violation the “integrity of the game”. Will there be any crying? Any finger pointing?
    We will also have confirmation of whether or not Roger is owned by the Giants organization. In this case it’s much more “likely than not” that walkie talkies are against the rules.

  5. Of course they do…and every fan also knows it.

    Using a communication device that is prohibited is much worse than when a camera is allowed, was put in the wrong location for a portion of a game.

    The mislocated camera incident cost another team a 1st round draft pack along with fines. The coach of that team had to pay the largest fine ever imposed in the NFL’s then-87-year history. The funny thing is that to this day there are some fools that will claim that the team was let off easy.

    Will be interesting to see what the penalty is for the Giants.

  6. John Mara to Roger Goodell… “I am your biggest supporter among the owners. Just make this walkie talkie issue disappear and you my get a little extra in your Xmas stocking.”
    Roger…”Thank you Sir – always appreciated. What else can I do to help? Would you like another Super Bowl in New York?”

  7. NOTHING will happen, it’s the NJ/NY Giants! Nothing happened when they ILLEGALLY targeted Kyle Williams, who had a history of concussion problems, during the NFC Championship Game. Nothing will happen here.

    If the Patriots or Saints had used illegal walkie talkies, you can 100% be assured that Herr Fuhrer Goodell would come down hard on them. The Giants…pfft…nada. Just like if it was the Jets…nada.

    Nothing to see here, just move along.

  8. What is ‘protocol’ for this? I’m guessing Roger will make him write a two paragraph letter of apology.

  9. Im wondering how is it so easy to use a regular walkie talkie to communicate into the players helmets.

    Secondly if walkie talkies are illegal for use on the sidelines. How was it so easy to find one. Seems like a lot of illegal activity going on there.

  10. The rule if headset communication is lost is very simple, the other team can not use their headsets until it is reestablished. The communication equipment is operated by the league, how would the Giants even know what frequency walkie to have around? What about the other teams frequency? Why did the officiating crew allow it?

  11. The Giants were never punished for repeated fake, synchronized cramping incidents show on YouTube to this day, or for destroying the draft to get Eli in the first place. They also convinced the league to punish the Redskins and Cowboys for violating an imaginary cap. They are bandits of the highest order.

  12. You break the rules, you get caught, you stand up and answer to it like a man. There is a much steeper price to be paid when you break a rule and then double down by trying to cover it up like the Patriots always do.

  13. So send a mean letter, fine them a few thousand dollars, and forget this ever happened. It’s not like this is Bill Belichick or anything

  14. Apparently Collingsworth and Michaels don’t know the rule either as they made light of the fact the walkies were being used. My question, why was he using it? I have seen nothing written as to the reason he chose to use the walkies.

  15. Let’s see…the Roger Goodell mentioned integrity of the game when the NFL claimed that someone let air out of the Patriots footballs. The NFL then took a 1st round draft pick, a 4th round draft pick, and forced Tom Brady to miss 25% of the 2016 season.

    The NFL then took PSI measurements in games played outside during the 2015 season. The NFL then kept those measurements secret. Presumably because the measurements demonstrated that cold weather lowers the PSI in footballs without any air being removed. Remember scientists from no less than 21 universities stated that the weather explained the deflation.

    People that didn’t want to be told by the NFL what to believe, conducted experiments using footballs, pressure gauges and refrigerators. Those experiments proved that cold weather lowers the PSI in footballs without any air being removed. Video showing one of those experiments can be seen by searching on the popular online video site. Just search for: “Deflate Gate & Why Science Says the Patriots Did Not Tamper with Footballs”

    So the NFL took draft picks away from the Patriots and suspended Tom Brady for what the weather does naturally. Deflategate II, which also involved the Giants, also gives more evidence to show that the Patriots were cheated by the NFL.

    Now the Giants admit to violating NFL rules to gain a competitive advantage. Remember the authorized NFL helmet communication is shut off when there are 15 seconds left on the play clock. The Giants unauthorized device would allow the coaches to talk to the QB past the 15 seconds and through the entire play. They would be able to point out down & distance, time left on the play clock, the defensive formation, personnel and location of key defenders.

    So it is clear that the punishment for actually violating NFL rules should be more severe than the punishments that another team received when that team was blamed for the weather does naturally. Integrity of the game and all that.

  16. Patriots fanboys invented fake news. Collectively, they have an honesty ranking of 2 (out of 100) on Facebook. They’re working on zero.

  17. This is so important in my life! JUSTICE FOR MCADOO!

    Seeing the Giants punished has consumed my life. It’s so important to me!

  18. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 8:32 PM

    by trying to cover it up like the Patriots always do.

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    Except that NEVER happened.

  19. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 8:32 PM

    You break the rules, you get caught, you stand up and answer to it like a man. There is a much steeper price to be paid when you break a rule and then double down by trying to cover it up like the Patriots always do.
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    You are an example of how Patriot hate has destroyed your ability to think like an adult. Deflategate has NOW been shown to be a set up because the NFL did not care about the most recent ball deflation involving the Steelers and Giants! As far as spygate goes for the rest of you children, will you and all others like you explain how the NY Jets were caught filming the Patriot’s in a 2006 game and the NFL did nothing!

    It amazes me how child like adults become when things involve the Patriot’s and how they don’t care about things when the Patriot’s are not involved. If the Patriot’s were involved with using walkie talkies, ADMIT IT CHILDREN, you would be asking your hero Roger Goodell to destroy them again to help your team beat them! You loved how he had to make up deflategate! All the cheating that has been done by other teams over the last several years have been ignored by you Patriot trolls and then you wonder why we ponce when WE EXPOSE YOUR HYPOCRISY!

  20. cmon Roger…isn’t ALL about the SHIELD? The Integrity of The Game? Like P.S.I.? oh yeah thats just if its the Patriots…and im sure if Bellichik used walkie talkie’s the league office’s initial indication would also be “just a fine” as well…suuuuureee….nothing to see here folks…it’s not the Patriots…move along please…

  21. Since Goodell believes in a make-up call system of discipline, it seems he has grounds here, in addition to the ball tampering, to make up for the Josh Brown gift he gave John Mara.

  22. maust1013 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 8:26 PM

    how would the Giants even know what frequency walkie to have around?
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    Where was it said that it was “on the correct frequency”?

    Maybe it was a rogue communication device that was completely independent of the authorized NFL helmet device.

    Which if that’s the case, then they could have been using both devices in other games. Having 2 communication devices would allow the coach to talk to the QB as well as the coordinators up in the observation booth. That would allow the coordinator to provide information after the 15 minute lock out of the authorized communications.

    The fans deserve answers!

  23. tbf22 says:
    Dec 17, 2016 8:22 PM
    Im wondering how is it so easy to use a regular walkie talkie to communicate into the players helmets.

    Secondly if walkie talkies are illegal for use on the sidelines. How was it so easy to find one. Seems like a lot of illegal activity going on there.
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    Did MCadoo just turn to the nearest security personnel and say hey, let me borrow your walkie talkie so I can chat with Eli? It sounds like a pretty minor violation but I bet if there was an investigation, there would be much more to this story

  24. dontletfactsgetintheway says:
    Dec 17, 2016 8:47 PM

    It amazes me how child like adults become when things involve the Patriot’s and how they don’t care about things when the Patriot’s are not involved. If the Patriot’s were involved with using walkie talkies, ADMIT IT CHILDREN, you would be asking your hero Roger Goodell to destroy them again to help your team beat them! You loved how he had to make up deflategate! All the cheating that has been done by other teams over the last several years have been ignored by you Patriot trolls and then you wonder why we ponce when WE EXPOSE YOUR HYPOCRISY!
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    I’m not the one who threw a tantrum that ended up in stitches after trying to scrape the NFL sticker off my helmet. That, my friend, was childish behavior. So typical of a Patriot.

  25. Patriot detractors believed fake science. Collectively, they have an stupidity ranking of 100 (out of 100) in the academic and scientific communities.

  26. Suspend the coach for the remainder of the year including the playoffs. The right person gets punished financially and no coach will ever do anything like this again.

  27. Sorry Patriot fans, I know this is a sore point for y’all, but you should aim your hate and bitterness at the NFL front office if you don’t like the penalty imposed on your golden boy, rather than towards the team which defeated you in two Super Bowls.

  28. The Giants will just get a fine and maybe McAdoo will have to sit out the preseason games next year. That’s the precident when you actually do something wrong. When there is no real evidence, that is when your team loses a 1st round draft pick, your coach gets a year suspension and your QB sits 4 games.

  29. Too funny…
    Someone actually believes that if someone peeled a sticker off their helmet…that it would be an over reaction…to being publically blamed and forced to miss 25% of the season along with the pay for those games…all because the NFL didn’t understand that cold weather and rain lowers the PSI in footballs naturally.

  30. Eli Manning was at least generally aware of the scheme to use illegal communication equipment.

    4 game suspension.

    1st and 4th round pick should just about cover it.

  31. People keep talking about the Patriots. Get this in your head. Your beloved Tom Brady gave signed memorabilia to a guy called “The Deflator” in exchange for balls to be deflated at his liking. He destroyed his cell phone, he refused to collaborate with investigators, and the Patriots are know cheats.

  32. factpurveyor says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:22 PM
    Too funny…
    Someone actually believes that if someone peeled a sticker off their helmet…that it would be an over reaction…to being publically blamed and forced to miss 25% of the season along with the pay for those games…all because the NFL didn’t understand that cold weather and rain lowers the PSI in footballs naturally.
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    Brady challenged the punishment in federal court. And he lost. I’m not sure if he sliced open his own flesh before or after that. Do you happen to know?

  33. If this wasn’t a huge advantage for the Giants, why did they do it? Why break the rules for no reason?

    Goodell has said that cheating won’t be tolerated, but he has covered up, minimized or under punished infractions by the NY teams. Chances are he does the same thing here.

  34. jrossizzle says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:24 PM

    Brady’s legal team recommends smashing the walkie-talkies with a hammer and pretend nothing happened.

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    Except the walkie-talkie was used to cheat during at least one game that we know of. While the telephone was irrelevant. Despite the fact that many people were duped into believing that the phone was relevant.

    The telephone was personal property of someone. The NFL had no right to ever look at the telephone. So it didn’t matter what happened to it. Dupes must also believe that Tom Brady would have been obligated to allow the NFL to search his house while taking a film crew along, if they asked.

  35. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:38 PM

    I’m not sure if he sliced open his own flesh before or after that. Do you happen to know?

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    We will defer to you, since it appears that you were there and saw what happened.

  36. “People keep talking about the Patriots. Get this in your head. Your beloved Tom Brady gave signed memorabilia to a guy called “The Deflator” in exchange for balls to be deflated at his liking. He destroyed his cell phone, he refused to collaborate with investigators, and the Patriots are know cheats.”
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    Yeah right! Brady signed gifts for a lot of the staff as a thank you for their work not as a conspiracy to deflate footballs. If you really look at the texts between McNally and Jastremski it is more plausible that Jastremski was stealing shoes for McNally and that was what the ‘going to ESPN’ text was referencing.

  37. gauchosporlife says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:36 PM

    People keep talking about the Patriots. Get this in your head. Your beloved Tom Brady gave signed memorabilia to a guy called “The Deflator” in exchange for balls to be deflated at his liking. He destroyed his cell phone, he refused to collaborate with investigators, and the Patriots are know cheats.

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    Except nothing that you typed is true.
    Nobody was called “The Deflator”. You were duped by the NFL when they made sure that you heard about an out of context off season text message where that word was used once.

    Contrary to what you believe, a guy that has a job of inflating and deflating footballs to get them within the mandated PSI range should be able to use the word “deflator” for whatever stupid reason that he wants to.

    Its a good thing he didn’t also have a job of spraying the building for pests. Then he may have joked and called himself “terminator” and fools would be saying that Brady was involved in a murder conspiracy.

    The telephone was irrelevant and the NFL told the judge that Brady cooperated. Only those that don’t understand 7th grade science believe that the patriot are “cheats”. Cold weather & rain lowers the PSI in footballs naturally.

  38. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:38 PM

    factpurveyor says:
    Dec 17, 2016 9:22 PM
    Too funny…
    Someone actually believes that if someone peeled a sticker off their helmet…that it would be an over reaction…to being publically blamed and forced to miss 25% of the season along with the pay for those games…all because the NFL didn’t understand that cold weather and rain lowers the PSI in footballs naturally.
    ——————————————————

    Brady challenged the punishment in federal court. And he lost. I’m not sure if he sliced open his own flesh before or after that. Do you happen to know?
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    That shows what you know about it. The NFL filed the court case not Brady, and it was to uphold Goodell’s right under the CBA to punish players at any time, for any reason, without proof, just because he wants to. And the court said he could. I guess that also means he can ignore any infraction he wants to, if he wants to, so nothing will happen to the Giants for cheating.

  39. C’mon…it’s 2016. There are plenty of devices on the market that conspicuously transmit the same wavelengths as old school walkie talkies. If you’re too dumb to cheat, well, you probably aren’t creative enough to be an effective head coach

  40. How about a million dollar fine, loss of first and fourth round draft picks next year, and suspending Macadon’t for 4 games.

  41. If Ray Farmer had to be suspended 4 games for texting the Browns sideline, then McAdoo should get suspended at least as long.

  42. I’m sorry, but didn’t the league also make it clear that the inflation level of the balls was also a serious issue? They kind of recently let that go too right ?

  43. Uh the Eagles coach didn’t even know he was allowed three channels in his own headset, so I would believe he wouldn’t know the walkie talkie rule.

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