NFL appears poised to slap Giants on the wrist for WalkieTalkieGate

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Sometimes when a team breaks the rules, the NFL cracks down with suspensions and the loss of draft picks. Other times, the league slaps the offending team on the wrist with a fine.

For the Giants and WalkieTalkieGate, it appears that a wrist slap is in order. Multiple reports say the Giants are going to get off with just a fine.

The issue started a week ago, when Giants coach Ben McAdoo used a walkie-talkie to communicate to quarterback Eli Manning on the field. That’s against the rules, as the league has specific modes of communication that are authorized and supervised, and teams aren’t allowed to use other methods to communicate even when the officially authorized coach-to-quarterback communication system goes down, as it did for the Giants in Dallas.

It’s somewhat surprising that the league won’t come down harder on the Giants. When former Browns G.M. Ray Farmer violated an in-game communications rule by texting the coaching staff during a game, he was suspended for four games. It’s odd that one in-game communication violation results in a suspension, but another one doesn’t.

There’s no word on how much the fine will be, but suffice to say it’s not going to be an amount of money that really hurts McAdoo, who’s a millionaire, or the Giants’ owners, who are billionaires. If using walkie-talkies helped the Giants beat the Cowboys in a crucial divisional game, it will be money well spent.

84 responses to “NFL appears poised to slap Giants on the wrist for WalkieTalkieGate

  1. Is anyone surprised? Goodell is nothing but a simple minded puppet for Mara and a couple other owners so of course the Giants are going to get a slap on the wrist.

  2. ” It’s odd that one in-game communication violation results in a suspension, but another one doesn’t.”

    Have you been paying any attention at all? When one is the Browns and the other is the Giants it’s not odd at all. What would be odd would be a NY team getting treated like a team in Cleveland, KC or NE.

  3. .
    The Goodell logic :

    ” The Giants send their plays in by walkie talkie. The Cowboys by smoke signal. They’re both methods of communication, therefore the league’s competitive balance was unaffected. ”
    .

  4. thats the perfect reflection on a issue a lot of fans and i think even teams have with the NFL.

    theres zero consistency

    also – the gap between the club levels and the players.
    player punishment is brutal,
    i think Dion Jordan is a good example, i dont care if hes a world beater or a bust – all i know is hes not a bad character guy.
    he gets suspended a whole year for WEED
    drinks alcohol and panics because he thinks alcohol
    will be tested as well, misses the test and ends up suspended for another year.
    thats two years in a short career sports for not a whole lot of bad doing.

  5. From a Patriots Fan:
    Not that I want more BS punishments from the league but a part of me wants to see how differently the NFL and media outlets would deal with and/or portray this rule violation if it involved BB and the Pats. People’s heads would literally explode and it would be another national prime time news headliner is my thinking.

    I hate Goodell’s NFL

  6. “It’s somewhat surprising that the league won’t come down harder on the Giants. ”

    LOL. Surprising to who exactly? Certainly not anyone who followed the entire Josh Brown mess or literally any other time where a small handful of favorite teams skirt precedent and get away with whatever they want.

    Just remember oh wise and wonderful NFL owners… You alllll cheered on the commissioner when he spent millions of your money fighting for the right to throw precedent out the window whenever they feel like it. Hope you enjoy the mess you’ve made.

  7. Absolutely ridiculous giants Steelers and packers are the only teams that get away with whatever they want I kinda feel bad for the patriots after seeing this all that punishment for something that wasn’t proven NFL u can suckk it

  8. Considering that this about the only national football site writing about it this doesnt actually surprise me. The Giants sites arent even writing about it.

  9. having the ginger hammers back in deflate gate is paying off for the Mara Family.

    The Giants were forewarned, like every team in the league. They get a slap on the wrist? Typical. They should be fined 1m and they should lose a first round draft pick.

  10. Didnt eli throw a pick on the series that they used the walkie-talkies? How did this help the Giants beat the Cowboys?

  11. The Giants HC breaks a rule by personally using walkie talkies to talk to his QB in game from the sidelines out in the open for all to see and gets a slap on the wrist.

    The Patriots HC breaks a rule by having a staff member filming signals from the sidelines out in the open for all to see and is called to the Commish office, gets a whopping fined and losses a draft pick.

    No its not your imagination that the Commish has it out for your team, Patriot fans.

  12. What a joke, but is anyone surprised? in back to back weeks the Giants violated rules. measuring PSI on sideline clearly breaking protocol – Nothing to see here.

    Memo sent earlier to team regarding walkie talkies – ignored and competitive advantage gained. Sounds familiar…..

    Fire Goodell already.

  13. My NFL interest will continue to disappear until Goddell is gone for good. I hate him with a passion, more than I’ve ever hated any political leaders in our country.

    I want him gone NOW!

  14. The NFL is getting crazier and crazier. If the G-Men improperly used a walkie-talkie because the main communication system failed, but did not use it to a greater extent than the failed system would have been used, then slap them on the wrist. If they used it in excess of the main system and gained an unfair advantage, then hammer them. End of story and let’s play football.

  15. Wow, it never dawned on me that walkie talkies were the ticket to the Superbowl. So, the way to beat the Cowboys isn’t to beef up your running game or get a better cornerback… the secret is using a pair of primitive talkies against their hi-tec comm devices. Who would have thought! #1 draft pick: Motorola…

  16. The Giants informed the referees that they were going to use the walkie-talkie and the refs let them do it.

    The NFL is in a bad spot because the refs were told and let it happen.

    This is why Jerrah is not freaking out and the fine will be slap on the wrist.

  17. This should come as no surprise as the “integrity of the game” concept is selectively enforced by Goodell and the league office. The Giants obviously are a controlling entity in the league. It become obvious during deflate gate that Bob Kraft, despite the appearance of being a formidable NFL owner, is an outsider with little of no power and apparently not well liked by the controlling owners like mara and Rooney and perhaps Jones.They let Goodell be the front man and pay him well and of course Goodell the lap dog does what he’s told……Good boy….sit!!!

  18. So the Browns GM gets 4 games, but the Giants get a small fine.

    Where are the fines, suspensions, and loss of draft picks for the admitted tampering of the Steelers’ footballs?

    Slowly, more and more fans are coming around to the fact that Goodell is a liar and a fraud. When NE was framed, libeled, and defamed, no one cared. They were so quick to dismiss, science, common sense, and their own eyes.

    Now, in the span of just a couple weeks the Giants…

    Were caught enabling and condoning domestic violence.

    Made a backroom deal to suspend Josh Brown only 1 game instead of the mandatory 6.

    Caught tampering with another team’s footballs.

    Illegally using walkie-talkies to gain a competitive advantage.

    Instead of the hammer being dropped, the Giants will get a minimal fine.

    Fire Goodell!

  19. This is too bad. I really wanted to see McAdoo brought outside of Quest Center, forced to kneel down, blind folded, given a cigarette, read his last rites, then shot in the head from behind – point blank.

    I think that would have really sent the right message to the 31 other teams……..

  20. No question this is bad.

    But given the problem the league has with headsets, you would think they would pursue better technology so that this doesn’t happen.

    In a world with the best in communication tech, seems strange how often the headsets don’t work. Whether its a stadium, the batteries or the helmet, not sure why the tech behind a billion dollar plus industry has to be this unreliable.

    Why not take away the walkie-talkies during the game if they aren’t suppose to use them? like have them to test the helmet at the start and turn them in after kickoff.

    And the Browns Ray Farmer analogy is not that accurate–A GM should not be coaching and telling the coach what plays to run–by text message. There is some expectation that the head coach is going to call the plays and talk to the qb about them.

    Then again, Al Davis would call down and tell the Raiders coach what players he should play, and what players he was annoyed with and should be benched. But that was a different time…and it was a phone not a text message!

    The bottom line is that the NFL has a product which is losing rating and money–and its likely due to short sighted decisions between part time refs, limited goal line camera for replay review, lots of Jeff Fisher (now fixed), and a dogged determination to defend everything that is screwed up.

    Admitting mistakes were made is the first step to not repeating them.

  21. This is one weird league. It is so poorly run its
    embarrassing.

    Any decisions of merit that get made seem to be
    made by either a majority of owners collectively or those with more perceived power.

    They TELL the “commissioner” what they want
    done.

    And its done.

    Move on.

  22. This must be that trade off the NFL gave the Giants to stop that deflategate inquiry on the Giants. Did I say trade off? I meant bribe.

  23. chino1985 says:
    Dec 18, 2016 7:54 AM

    Que the Patriot fans who are about to whine and complain and make everything about them.
    ——————————————————————-
    Haters gotta hate. They hate us ’cause they ain’t us.

  24. The NFL is a joke. But all our complaints mean nothing as long as the money keeps rolling in. While viewership is down slightly this year it is just not enough. Maybe the inconsistency with punishment and further tinkering with the on-field product will drop viewership at little more but I think real change will only be brought about when profits are significantly impacted. That would take an all out effort to boycott sponsors. I won’t hold my breathe on that ever happening.

  25. “Que the Patriot fans who are about to whine and complain and make everything about them.”

    Que the non Patriot fans who are about to whine and complain about Patriots fans making everything about them.

  26. Wow, what a joke the NFL has become. When all is said and done, Roger will have turned what once was a (somewhat) respectable league into nothing more than a circus act.

    They already have the biggest clown as the MC.

    They have an independent investigator that can be the magician that makes something substantial appear from nothing.

    The clown car can be the offices in NYC, how many of these good for nothing execs can that fit into that one place?

    If this is the direction the owners really want to go then they should replace Roger as quick as possible. I believe Vince McMahon would be a much better choice for commish, he has much more experience with a sport that very few take seriously.

  27. “Considering that this about the only national football site writing about it this doesnt actually surprise me. The Giants sites arent even writing about it.”
    If this was Patriots the the Post and Daily News would have it on their front pages with requisite caricatures.

  28. chino1985 says:
    Dec 18, 2016 7:54 AM
    Que the Patriot fans who are about to whine and complain and make everything about them.
    ——–
    Will every poster have to post their team so people like realize that it’s not just Patriots fans royaly upset with how deflategate was handled and how the league plays favorites when it comes to situations like this? Ok I’ll start since you seem to naively believe it’s only Patriots fans upset about this and I suggest other fans do this also so we don’t see ignorant posts like this anymore.

    —sign a Redskins fan

  29. Walkie Talkie’s, psi in footballs, Josh Brown…How can the NFL let the Giants slide on this without coming down hard?

    Then again it’s the Giants, Goodell’s lap dogs.

    And what about the Steelers?

  30. Mike Floyd has to be torn. On the one hand he was picked up by a SB contender but if the league follows the precedent they have set…….his guilt by association, ie playing for the Pats will probably get him some sort of penalty that up until now was never levied for that type of infraction.

  31. chino1985 says:
    Dec 18, 2016 7:54 AM
    Que the Patriot fans who are about to whine and complain and make everything about them.

    ————————

    Are you a Patriots fan? Because its you that I see bringing it up.

  32. Oh, c’mon, man! The Giants beat Dallas twice this year, so the walkie-talkies had no affect on the outcome of that game. The Giants have the Cowboys’ number. It’s as simple as that.
    Even a fine is stupid, to me. If the league was so upset that the Giants were using them, why not send someone to the Giants bench and tell them to knock it off? That’s like a cop watching a guy speeding for a couple of miles, but then he waits until the guy is home for a couple of hours and then he knocks on the guy’s door and writes him a ticket.
    As the gentleman who posted above me said, this is why ratings are down. We are all so tired of all of this crap which takes the focus off the games.
    As a fan of the NFL since 1960, I am finding more things to do which have nothing to do with the NFL. The NFL has turned into the WWE. It’s all about the show and the glitz and not about the games.
    If you had told me I’d feel this way I’d have said you need your head examined. I don’t even watch the Super Bowl anymore. By the time the game arrives, I am so sick of hearing about it, I don’t even want to watch it. And 90% of the time, the game never comes close to all the hype.
    If you like going for a nice Sunday drive, you can’t beat doing it on Super Bowl Sunday during the game. The traffic is about half what it normally is.
    The owners, Goodell, and the players just don’t get it. They are all helping to destroy this once great game.

  33. I get it that their comms were down and they had a handy means for getting around that. So for actual use of the walkie talkie for that specific reason I even think the fine is too harsh.

    To me the bigger question is why they just happened to have handy a device that could tune into the comm frequencies. The comm problem didnt start until later so thats not why they brought it with them. What was the reason? Could it tune to the Dallas comms too?

  34. Letting Aldon Smith twist in the wind is part of this ridiculous imbalance.
    Goodell needs to be suspended!

  35. As Tony Dungy said “You cannot use walkie-talkies. To me this is very serious. If the league only issues a fine there will be owners calling the league office the next day.”

    But let’s be real. The NFL isn’t “sport” – it’s entertainment… it’s fixed just like the WWE

    One team has footballs that “deflate” in the cold and it’s a $20 million investigation and legal challenge nearly up to the Superme Court, with a 1st and 4th round pick stolen and the MVP of the League benched so other owners can get “their” time in the Super Bowl limelight.

    When the Maras or Rooneys do the same thing or worse, it’s a slap on the wrist – in part because THEY are the puppeteers pulling Goodell’s strings.

    I can’t stand Donald Trump but I do hope he sends the FBI in to 345 Park Avenue to start a criminal investigation into the role gambling and the Mafia are having in these efforts to fix the outcome of seasons – not to mention Goodell and Mara trying to buy off the NIH’s Concussion study.

    All fans want is a fair league that is not fixed by a corrupt Commissioner – apparently that’s asking too much.

  36. Corrupt. Mara and Rooney are BFF with Goodell. Both involved in controversies that are swept under the rug. Typical NFL corruption in 2016. That’s why the NFL is losing popularity.

  37. Surprise surprise. Mara runs what he likes….

    However, if they used Beats by Dre headsets instead of the junk Bose they may not have any issues.

    No highs, no lows, it must be Bose.

  38. Dec 18, 2016 7:58 AM
    having the ginger hammers back in deflate gate is paying off for the Mara Family.

    The Giants were forewarned, like every team in the league. They get a slap on the wrist? Typical. They should be fined 1m and they should lose a first round draft pick.

    If Farmer got 4 games and they got a huge fine that would be an appropriate similar punishment for McAdoo even disregarding the fact Farmer did it on more than one occasion. Unless I’m wrong the Browns did not lose a first round pick so why would this case result in that? I’m not following your logic.

  39. cowboylover says:
    Dec 18, 2016 9:58 AM
    Justified or not, now there will always be suspicion about the outcome of the game.

    They won 10-7. It was Eli and Ben talking to each other. Do you think they were talking about dinner plans? What to buy each other’s wives for Christmas? What could they talk about that would cause the outcome of that game to change? Was the Cowboy’s sideline passing messages that they were intercepting? Listen I get it. It was against the rules but ya lost. Ya lost because Dak played like crap. Walkie Talkies had nothing to do with that.

  40. The Giants should absolutely be dealt with more harsh. Having said that, hard to compare this to Spygate or deflategate. In one situation the team knowingly cheated for a competitive advantage and did whatever they could to hide it and not cooperate. In the Giants situation, they were kind of just stupid and probably didn’t gain much from it and tried to cooperate with the investigation apparently. Mcadoo should honestly probably be suspended for this. As the Head coach that is your sideline. And for all the cowboys fans complaining, you scored 7 points.

  41. Jet–I’m not saying that’s why we lost. I’m saying that when you violate rules during a game suspicion will always arise. I’m not a whiner, just pointing out a fact of life.

  42. NFL punishment resembles that of a banana republic.

    Fined more for dancing then hurting a player.

    A ball that was never proven deflated, nor really shown to be a benefit if it was gets a QB thrown into a witch hunt and a suspension….

    Meanwhile a tangible benefit… using walkie-talkies to the QB… a massive illegal benefit, gets a wrist slap.

    Well that’s America for you. One rule for some, another for others.

  43. Oh,I see…one rule book for the Patriots and Tom Brady,which was thrown at them,and a completely different book for the rest of the league,who get a slap on the wrist. Baby Eli can’t call his own plays,so they clearly violate the rules by using walkie talkies… The NFL has turned into a complete farce. If the Pats and Brady weren’t playing with a huge chip on their shoulders,they surely are now. Good.

  44. When a team in the same division as the Giants violates an illegal/collusive unofficial rule against slightly taking advantage of an uncapped year, the Mara-lead committee makes it harder for said teams to compete against said Giants by stripping away salary cap. When a team not in NY’s division (Atlanta) violates the same improper rule, it gets a much more minor penalty. And when the Giants violate a rule, they get little more than a slap on the wrist. That’s Roger Goodell’s NFL for you!

  45. jmc8888 says:
    Dec 18, 2016 10:56 AM

    A ball that was never proven deflated, nor really shown to be a benefit if it was gets a QB thrown into a witch hunt and a suspension….

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    Just to be clear on what the punishment was after a player was incorrectly blamed for what the weather does to footballs on cold/wet days:

    • One of the best players in the league forced to miss 25% of the 2016 regular season.
    • Team fined 1 million dollars.
    • 1st round draft pick taken from team in 2016 NFL Draft.
    • 2th round draft pick taken from team in 2017 NFL Draft.

  46. flaccojumpball says:
    Dec 18, 2016 9:28 AM

    Punishment fits the crime. This is not letting air out of footballs like the Steelers and the Cheats did. Giants are also not a repeat offender.
    ———————————

    The Giants cheated twice in one week.

  47. It’s not strange that the giants are getting off easy.

    Kraft, Mara and Rooney run this league.

    Kraft and the patsies lost draft picks and their beloved QB because it was their second major offense (they burned the evidence in the first offense, Tommy took care of the evidence in the 2nd offense).

    Alan Branch gets his suspension waived, Aldon Smith is still waiting.

    This is par for the course.

    Carry on.

    Go Raiders

  48. Bunch of dummies here can’t tell the difference between the football equivalent of murder vs jaywalking. Yeah… filming another teams signals before a super bowl vs communicating with the coach using an alternative technology is the same. Smh

  49. “Yeah… filming another teams signals before a super bowl vs communicating with the coach using an alternative technology is the same. ”

    I suppose Week 1 is “before a super bowl”.

    I get that you don’t care for details. I get that you’re not good at understanding equivalence. But here it is anyway: the Giants were able to communicate when their opponent wasn’t. That’s the rule they broke.

    When the Patriots broke a rule, they were docked a 1st round pick.

    When the Patriots didn’t break a rule, they were docked a 1st round pick and a 4th round pick.

    Roger Goodell is a terrible commissioner. He runs the NFL like a politician, not a judge.

  50. flaccojumpball says:
    Dec 18, 2016 9:28 AM
    Punishment fits the crime. This is not letting air out of footballs like the Steelers and the Cheats did. Giants are also not a repeat offender.

    ———
    After all your predictions leading up to and even during the Pats/Ravens game you have zero credibility son.

  51. nyneal says:
    Dec 18, 2016 9:29 AM
    Oh, c’mon, man! The Giants beat Dallas twice this year, so the walkie-talkies had no affect on the outcome of that game. The Giants have the Cowboys’ number. It’s as simple as that.
    _____________
    How much did .2 PSI for less than one half of one game effect the outcome of the Pats – Colts game. Oh c’mon man!

  52. It’s not about comparing violations it’s about the fact that a violation was committed and if the Giants can get off with just a fine for breaking a rule that is in place to prevent cheating then what’s to stop other teams from doing even if just one time. I’d hope to see 31 other head coaches whip out the walkie talkies today and take full advantage of their one shot then too

  53. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 18, 2016 11:32 AM
    Bunch of dummies here can’t tell the difference between the football equivalent of murder vs jaywalking. Yeah… filming another teams signals before a super bowl vs communicating with the coach using an alternative technology is the same. Smh

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    The football equivalent of murder?

  54. “The Giants should absolutely be dealt with more harsh. Having said that, hard to compare this to Spygate or deflategate. In one situation the team knowingly cheated for a competitive advantage and did whatever they could to hide it and not cooperate.”

    “Kraft and the patsies lost draft picks and their beloved QB because it was their second major offense (they burned the evidence in the first offense, Tommy took care of the evidence in the 2nd offense).”
    ——————————————————
    Once again, the people who claim to believe the lies of NFL don’t mind spreading lies themselves. The Patriots fully cooperated in both the taping scandal and in the deflation farce. Nothing was hidden in either situation. The Patriots turned over all the tapes in the first. It was Goodell who destroyed the tapes, not the Patriots. In the second, the Pats turned over the security tape showing McNally using the bathroom and Brady answered all their questions. What evidence did he ‘take care of’? He got rid of his phone, which was not evidence because they had no right to his phone. On appeal he turned over the records for that phone. How else would you know about his comments about his pool cover and Manning. Funny how certain commenters on PFT vilify Brady and the Pats for dishonesty, while they themselves don’t care about lying.

  55. joeflaccoallday says:
    Dec 18, 2016 9:11 AM
    Pats fans are a disgrace. Like their QB.

    **********************

    Just to clarify, this is not about the Patriots. Not involved.

  56. flaccojumpball says:
    Dec 18, 2016 9:28 AM
    Punishment fits the crime. This is not letting air out of footballs like the Steelers and the Cheats did. Giants are also not a repeat offender.

    *****************************

    Steelers did not let any air out of footballs. And who are the Cheats?

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