Raiders poised to move to Las Vegas, with or without Sheldon Adelson’s involvement

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The Raiders intend to leave Oakland for Las Vegas. Despite the best efforts of the league office (which ultimately haven’t been all that good) to make the case for keeping the team where it is, owner Mark Davis has $750 million in public money waiting for him in Nevada, and nada in California.

As mentioned on Sunday’s edition of NBC’s Football Night in America, the current view in league circles is that the Raiders “definitely” will move to Las Vegas. Ultimately, it will be difficult if not impossible for the NFL to get nine owners to oppose relocation, especially with the effort to compare Las Vegas to an existing market resulted in the league office pointing to Indianapolis.

Few would confuse Indianapolis with Las Vegas, and it’s going to take a lot more than that to get more than 25 percent of all owners to take a stand against the team’s desire to leave.

As to the difficulties that Davis and Sands casino owner Sheldon Adelson have experienced in reaching an agreement, one source with knowledge of the dynamics explained it simply, and bluntly: Davis will find someone else (or multiple someones) to stand in Adelson’s shoes, if Adelson doesn’t want to do a deal.

However it all works out, it’s looking like Davis will be out of Oakland. But while the Chargers are expected to make their move to Los Angeles immediately, the Raiders could spend up to two more years in Oakland as their new stadium is built in Las Vegas.

Look for a final decision to be made in early 2017. Barring a major and unexpected shift, look for that decision to be the creation of the Las Vegas Raiders.

48 responses to “Raiders poised to move to Las Vegas, with or without Sheldon Adelson’s involvement

  1. Mark Davis inherited a franchise in dire straights.. In 5 years he has established a quality football program and is poised to significantly increase the value of his franchise. He seems to be thriving despite the surprisingly common “Tommy boy” moniker.

  2. Right now all 32 NFL teams are worth almost $75 billion. BILLION. And that’s just the teams.
    The NFL just renewed a sponsorship deal which will be worth 2.5 billion. And that’s just one of dozens and dozens of deals.
    And that’s not including the yearly TV deals: (CBS 3.7 Billion. NBC 3.6 bil. Fox 4.7 bil).
    And that’s not including merchandising, advertising, and probably a thousand other ways they make money…

    Yet they still expect the fans to fit the bill for their stadiums. And if they can’t tax the people like Vegas did? Screw ’em.
    Oakland’s Raider fans don’t deserve this at all.

  3. BTW… How rich is the NFL? It’s 32 teams are worth more than all the MLB, NBA & NHL teams combined.
    But can they use a fraction of their profits to keep a team in the town its been in since the 60’s? Hell no.

  4. Davis will find someone else or multiple someones? Is this a joke? Good luck Mark finding a partner without offering partial ownership. You know a 3rd Party investor, which the league hates and in the end has to ultimately approve. Operation Bowl Cut is going to plan. Mark’s days in the club are numbered. #stayinoakland

  5. I can see it now……Hello this is MGM Resorts, how may we help you. (Mark Davis) yes can you please tell Jim Murren that this is Mark Davis calling him. Ok let me transfer the call….(Jim Murren) Hello Mark, what took you so long to call? and by the way Mark, has Roger reinstated Aldon Smith yet. (Mark Davis) No but he did reinstate Randy Gregory today even though he flunked his third drug test in November. (Jim Murren) thats odd, do you think Roger is taking care of the cowboys and not the raiders. (Mark Davis) Action do speak louder than words, but roger has no words or action when it come to Aldon. (both) hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Just sue baby!

  6. So like who will finance the rest of the stadium. $750M doesnt go very far. Marky Mark has to pay the relocation fee. I hope the stadium can be completed without the promise of full payment. Doubtful.

  7. Pretty awful if the Raiders remain ascendant and have 2-3 great seasons in Oakland before bidding adieu. I’d be pretty conflicted about it as a Raider fan. HOWEVER Las Vegas is a very short and cheap flight from the bay, and so long as they remain televised locally, it should be alright for fans. Tailgating outside that ugly stadium becomes weekend in Vegas. Not too shabby

    If they don’t remain televiaed locally, well, that sucks and the league is run by idiots.

    When the Sonics were pilfered, I thought they should have started airing Traiilblazers games as local in Seattle. They didn’t though. Dummies. Aside from catching Pelicans-Rockets in Shanghai, and Game 7 earlier this year, the NBA hasn’t had my money or my eyeballs since 2008.

  8. Why do people keeping bringing up league votes, how many owners approve, getting permission etc. etc? It’s a proven fact: Davis doesn’t need approval of anyone! Not the other owners, not the commish and not Sheldon Adelson.

  9. While the Raiders are waiting for the stadium to be built in Vegas, couldn’t they play their games in Toronto? I’m sure if Toronto started to GIVE AWAY tickets now, the stadium would be full.

  10. Only the league office could compare a jerkwater city like Indy to the convention and tourist Mecca that is Vegas. There’s more to Vegas than the media market size

  11. Worst idea to put a team in Vegas. The fan base is limited to Clark County and the city is filled w bookies and hookers. A disaster for any NFL player. Visitors come to Vegas to gamble and play w hookers, not attend live football games of a team that’s not theirs. Boxing and UFC are connected with Casinos in 20,000 seat area, not some 70k seat located away from the strip. The Raiders need to stay put in Oakland.

  12. pilingon57 says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:02 AM
    The heart of the Raider Nation is in Oakland. Mark Davis will rue the day he left Oakland.

    Obviously you didn’t see the game in San Diego Sunday??? Even Phillip Rivers said it felt like a road game for the Chargers.

    The Raider Nation is truly a Nation and not just Oakland. If Oakland was really where the team belonged their wouldn’t be tarps covering sections of the stadium…!

  13. uhh you might want to tamper down those public comments about Adelson.. he’s kind of a big deal in Vegas and can stop other deal from happening. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. He is the one that got this ball rolling and he is the one that helped push/secure the public financing.

  14. For anyone who says that the Raiders will not have a homefield advantage in Vegas?

    That comes across more of what you are hoping for than actual facts.

    I think it is fair to say that the same fan base and or more that travel to SD on a yearly basis to make that a Raider home game will do the same for Vegas?

    If we can take advantage of another teams homefield then surely we should be able to make our own an advantage.Is that not fair to say or is your wishful thinking more accurate?

  15. From what I read Vegas was already planning to build this new Stadium for UNLV.That was the first report before the Raiders got knee deep in the deal. Sheldon is not the end all.

  16. I cant remember a team relocating to a new city that the team was actually good. Usually the team leaving has not had a winning record for some time. This should help Vegas draw well simply because they are a good team and fun to watch. If they would have moved to LA they would be owning it. The Rams would be the second team. This will be a gold mine for all involved. Better than LA.

  17. uhh you might want to tamper down those public comments about Adelson.. he’s kind of a big deal in Vegas and can stop other deal from happening. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. He is the one that got this ball rolling and he is the one that helped push/secure the public financing.
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    Adelson has never dealt with the likes of MARKY MARK DAVIS!!!!…………………. He is the deal maker of NO CAL and has never had to pay for anything, not even a haircut!

  18. I cant remember a team relocating to a new city that the team was actually good. Usually the team leaving has not had a winning record for some time. This should help Vegas draw well simply because they are a good team and fun to watch. If they would have moved to LA they would be owning it.
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    Wrong, Jethro. The Raiders lived in LA for a dozen years, won Superbowls there and owned nothing!

  19. Another nail in the NFL’s coffin. But, unfortunately, the sheep (fans) will still loyally and blindly follow wherever the corporate NFL will take them, no matter how much they have to pay. I’m done guys. The NFL no longer represents sport. It’s a money-making machine focused only on profit and control. Open your eyes and get the hell out. The planet is in really bad shape, so find better ways to spend your time and money.

  20. Wouldn’t anyone rather go to a new stadium built for football or keep going to an outdated baseball stadium used for the team. In the best interest for the team and fans it would be to go to Vegas. The city of Oakland could have done something to keep the team improving the stadium which they haven’t done.

  21. 2016 will be the Raiders last season in Oakland. They will play at Sam Boyd Stadium for 2 years while the new stadium is being built. There is no point in lingering around in Oakland as a lame duck team. It would make more sense to get used to the new southern Nevada market.

  22. I really do not think Las Vegas will do well as a full time NFL market. Las Vegas is a small largely transplant market where people have very modest incomes.

  23. As fans in Oakland, our best shot for keeping the team has always been Mark finding a way to screw this Vegas deal up somehow. Stories like this make me more hopeful.

  24. I cant remember a team relocating to a new city that the team was actually good.
    ——
    The Raiders won a SB after moving in 1984. The Ravens left Cleveland and won two. 2000 & 2012. The Colts won in 2007.
    Regardless, I think the Raiders moving to Vegas will work, until the novelty seats off.

  25. Arizona Cardinals – 5-11 , 4-11-1 , 7-8-1 last three seasons in STL before moving . Houston 2-14 ,7-9 ,8-8 before moving to Tennessee . LA Rams 6-10 , 5-11 , 4-12 before moving to STL. Oakland Raiders 4-12, 7-9 ,8-8 before moving to LA. Browns 7-9,11-5 ,7-9 before moving to Baltimore . Baltimore 2-14 , 0-8-1 ,7-9 before moving to Indianapolis. One winning record out of that bunch . Browns at 11-5. So my point is it is unique that a team moving is going in the right direction of winning and will enhance fan support. Looking at these records its easy to see why there was waning fan support for these teams. Im sure the owners of these teams used this as a crutch to get the other owners to approve their move. Maybe they should have tried to make their team better and it would have made a difference in getting a stadium deal done where they were at.

  26. I say the teams tanked to get attendance down so they could use this as a way to move the their team. Look at the Rams the last 5 years. I know they did in STL. No team could draft worse , have worse PR , be so out of touch with their fan base unless they were doing it on purpose. Or is organization just that bad ?

  27. wny49er says:
    Dec 20, 2016 7:06 AM
    Worst idea to put a team in Vegas. The fan base is limited to Clark County and the city is filled w bookies and hookers. A disaster for any NFL player. Visitors come to Vegas to gamble and play w hookers, not attend live football games of a team that’s not theirs. Boxing and UFC are connected with Casinos in 20,000 seat area, not some 70k seat located away from the strip. The Raiders need to stay put in Oakland.
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    have you ever been to vegas? you sound like a pissed off housewife who’s husband was caught playing with hookers in vegas.
    seriously
    you have no clue how this town works.
    the stadium would be full – likely every game.
    no, it wont be all raider fans – but every other fan will show up as well!
    Vegas is one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world and a stadium would be a huge success!

  28. oneilistheone says:
    Dec 20, 2016 11:48 AM
    From what I read Vegas was already planning to build this new Stadium for UNLV.That was the first report before the Raiders got knee deep in the deal. Sheldon is not the end all.
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    A stadium for UNLV has been discussed for years. It wasnt until the NFL was in the mix that anything materialized.

    fact is that UNLV has a stadium thats perfectly fine for the school. 40k and rarely fills up.

    this is all about the NFL

  29. As a Charger fan I feel your pain Oakland. The Raiders have always been Oaklands team and I hope that the Bay Area and San Diego establishes a precedent by not providing these billionaires with money when they refuse to spend their own.
    Maybe the Raiders should go to San Diego instead, there are as many Raider fans here as there are in Oakland 🙂

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