Week 16 Power Rankings

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1. Patriots (12-2; last week No. 1): The defense may not be as bad as believed, but it still needs plenty of work.

2. Cowboys (12-2; No. 3): “We need to bench Dak Prescott” once again yields to “we need to rest Dak Prescott.”

3. Giants (10-4; No. 4): It’ll be time to apply an asterisk to Super Bowl XLII if it turns out someone was shouting “throw it to Tyree!” into a walkie-talkie.

4. Raiders (11-3; No. 5): Based on Sunday’s crowd, maybe the Raiders should be moving to San Diego.

5. Chiefs (10-4; No. 2): As it stands, the Chiefs could be getting a chance to lose to the Titans again in the wild-card round.

6. Seahawks (9-4-1; No. 8): “Poopfest” accurately describes the involuntarily bodily reaction from punter Jon Ryan once the ball started to slip from his grasp during his run.

7. Lions (9-5; No. 6): The Lions fans who were shouting down a likely Week 17 NFC North title game have suddenly gotten very quiet.

8. Falcons (9-5; No. 10): Matt Ryan is on the fairly short list of MVP candidates, even as the Falcons are on the fairly long list of teams that aren’t viewed as legitimate Super Bowl candidates.

9. Steelers (9-5; No. 11): All I want for Christmas is to see Mike Tomlin trip a Ravens player during a kickoff return.

10. Dolphins (9-5; No. 12): The Broncos didn’t want Adam Gase to coach the team, and in his first year as a head coach he may keep the Broncos out of the playoffs.

11. Titans (8-6; No. 17): They’re the best team people go out of their way to not pay attention to.

12. Buccaneers (8-6; No. 7): As poorly as Sunday night went, the Bucs still had a chance to win the game.

13. Broncos (8-6; No. 9): That “sub-optimal, near replacement-level” quarterbacking from 2015 is suddenly looking pretty good.

14. Packers (8-6; No. 13): Before Week One, I picked the Packers to make it to the Super Bowl. I’m suddenly feeling a lot better about that.

15. Ravens (8-6; No. 15): Before Week One, I picked the Ravens to make it to the Super Bowl. I’ve been feeling ambivalent about that for most of the year.

16. Texans (8-6; No. 16): So who’s the next quarterback the Texans will give a big pile of money to without even meeting?

17. Washington (7-6-1; No. 14): “How you like me now?” Not too much.

18. Colts (7-7; No. 20): Sunday’s win over the Vikings is the kind of win that Jim Irsay envisioned when drafting Andrew Luck and hiring Ryan Grigson and Chuck Pagano.

19. Vikings (7-7; No. 18): Sunday’s loss to the Colts is the last thing the organization envisioned. Ever.

20. Bills (7-7; No. 19): Rex Ryan is the only person in Western New York who doesn’t know he’s getting fired.

21. Panthers (6-8; No. 24): Happy Holidays, Josh Norman.

22. Saints (6-8; No. 26): It took a while, but the annual “Sean Payton may be leaving” story finally arrived.

23. Bengals (5-8-1; No. 21): The Steelers continue to treat the Bengals like an orange-headed stepchild.

24. Cardinals (5-8-1; No. 22): Carson Palmer should quit on the Cardinals before the Cardinals quit on Carson Palmer.

25. Eagles (5-9; No. 23): “Hey, we’ve won four more games that Chip Kelly.”

26. Chargers (5-9; No. 25): Stay classy, San Diego security guard.

27. Jets (4-10; No. 27): Maybe Woody Johnson and Rex Ryan will become the new George Steinbrenner and Billy Martin.

28. Rams (4-10; No. 28): Jeff Fisher wants to coach against the Rams. The Rams also want that to happen please.

29. Bears (3-11; No. 29): How many moral victories does it take to qualify for the moral playoffs?

30. Jaguars (2-12; No. 30): It would be a good idea for players to get used to showing up at least five minutes early for meetings.

31. 49ers (1-13; No. 31): It would be a good idea for players to get used to fans not showing up for games.

32. Browns (0-14; No. 32): As it turns out, Hue Jackson’s challenge flag was in Jeff Fisher’s coat.

155 responses to “Week 16 Power Rankings

  1. Here we go, playing up Tom Brady’s worth again. The patriots defense is ‘not as bad as believed but still needs plenty of work’. That defense has allowed the FEWEST points in the NFL. The bills have lost 7 games, 5 of which they put up more than 24 pts and lost. If the dang bills had the patriots defense they would be 12-2. Stop acting like the patriots offense is making or breaking this team. They put up only 1 td last game, the defense has saved them multiple games.

  2. Who was shouting down a week 17 NFC north matchup? Did anybody honestly think the Bears or Vikings were going to beat the Packers? All it takes is one loss to either the Giants or Cowboys (which has already happened) by the Lions and boom it’s a week 17 title game.

    It’s been in the cards for awhile. Should be a good game.

  3. Pats #1…again…don’t know whether to yawn or cry…I guess I’ll cry
    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

  4. So other than the Giants over the Raiders, it’s the teams record sorted highest to lowest. Thanks for the effort.

  5. Chiefs at #4? Not picking on KC, they’re better than a lot of teams, but seriously challenged on offense. Any of the teams through #14 on this list handle KC 9 out of 10 times on a neutral field.

  6. BTW, the Ravens beat the Dolphins 36-7. They already beat the steelers and will beat them again on christmas. These poles are worthless and should stop at top 5.

  7. Trying too understand why the #1 ranked defense in the NFL “still needs plenty of work.” The Pats are always trying to get better, but they are #4 against the run, #10 in total defense, and most important of all, #1 in points allowed.

  8. wow what a culture change in Miami and this team is the 3rd youngest team in the NFL with the youngest head coach great years ahead for Miami Fans

  9. Get your Eli Manning voodoo dolls out Cowboy, Packers and Falcons fans. Eli cometh soon for you.

    Again.

  10. Gives up a 17 point lead in the 4th quarter, to a 3-11 team being lead by their 3rd string QB. Needs a 60 yard hail mary to get within FG range to win the game.

    THAT’S the team Florio feels good about making a run in the playoffs to win it all.

  11. This Sunday in Denver the best defense on the field wasn’t the “mighty” Denver one. It was the Patriots defense.

    I feel really good about this team. They are solid in all aspects outside of Special teams which seems to have a lot of bad luck more than anything.

  12. 16. Texans (8-6; No. 16): So who’s the next quarterback the Texans will give a big pile of money to without even meeting?
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    Careful PFT. The Texan’s owner, McNair, still thinks Brocky is a “really good QB!”

  13. patriotinvasion says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:51 PM
    Trying too understand why the #1 ranked defense in the NFL “still needs plenty of work.” The Pats are always trying to get better, but they are #4 against the run, #10 in total defense, and most important of all, #1 in points allowed.
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    It must be nice playing in a division for 20 years where the teams are always collectively below .500. This year being no different.

    We’re like 9-3 against your division in the last 3 rotations and we’ve been a 6 win team for the last 4 years before this one. Must be nice to start every season with a 6 game headstart on the rest of the league. No wonder you’ve won that division 8 straight years and get a bye every year.

  14. vikingsdefineaverage says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:44 PM
    Giants #3 is a joke.

    Just because they are a trendy superbowl pick doesn’t change the fact that Eli is playing QB.
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    How many QB’s have more SB wins than Eli?

  15. The Giants are a bit too high. As for Eli, all he has to do is be the game manager he was vs the lions (20 of 28, 200 yds, 2 td’s, o picks) and he is more than good enough to win another SB. The Giants defense is very legit.

  16. vikingsdefineaverage says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:44 PM
    Giants #3 is a joke.

    Just because they are a trendy superbowl pick doesn’t change the fact that Eli is playing QB.
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    You’re right. We should be one spot higher, because, well….ask a Cowboy fan. They’ll tell ya.

  17. dorsiaonafriday says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:54 PM
    That Chargers video is disturbing.
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    He’s fine. He has the situation well in hand.

  18. Unless ownership interferes, the Brownies are gonna thump the warm weather Chargers this weekend. Upset special. 27-10

  19. Instead of “Power Rankings” this week should have been the Frank Costanza Festivus Pole.

    And now for the airing of grievances.

  20. So the Pats and, most likely, Dolphins will make the playoffs. Bills will probably finish 8-8.

    I don’t understand? If you read these comments on a regular basis, the Pats play in the worst division in football.

  21. Patriots have the GOAT coach/GM, the GOAT owner, and the GOAT SYSTEM QB. Next stop is Houston, hoisting the Lombardi trophy.

  22. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:16 PM
    Patriots have the GOAT coach/GM, the GOAT owner, and the GOAT QB. Next stop is Houston, hoisting the Lombardi trophy.

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    you forgot the GOAT fans and GOAT internet commentors

  23. vikingsdefineaverage says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:44 PM
    Giants #3 is a joke.

    Just because they are a trendy superbowl pick doesn’t change the fact that Eli is playing QB.

    Yeah that terrible game he had last, 71% comp, 115.3 rating, 2 TDs. no turnovers…

    Only needed 200 yards passing since they actually ran for over a 100, a refreshing change, and were ahead the entire game.

    He’s outplayed a lot of so called “better” QBs in the playoffs before

  24. igotgamenj says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:54 PM
    wow what a culture change in Miami and this team is the 3rd youngest team in the NFL with the youngest head coach great years ahead for Miami Fans
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    Imagine if the Dolphins had a decent QB.

  25. Vegas doesn’t agree with you. The Packers have much higher odds to win the division and to win the NFC than the Lions. I know the Packers aren’t good, but they are top 10 this season. Titans should also be higher on this list.

  26. “That Chargers video is disturbing.”

    Lol you should scroll down to the comments and see the South Park video that was posted, freaking hilarious.

    “It must be nice playing in a division for 20 years where the teams are always collectively below .500. This year being no different.”

    Poor Jamaltimore. All you have left is very disingenuous posts. The Pats have an over .800 winning % vs the AFCN and are 4-0 this year against that cupcake division.

    Meanwhile the Ravens have an over .900% whining record against every team they play.

  27. 11. Titans (8-6; No. 17): They’re the best team people go out of their way to not pay attention to.

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    This team has 5 really good wins this season. Thumped the Packers & Dolphins. Beat the Broncos, Chiefs, & Lions. And they haven’t lost by more than 9 points in any game. Early season struggles set them back but they are a talented team that will not stop fighting.

  28. oh it will be sweet when the pumpkin heads with a “g” on the helmet get knocked out of it..and well b4 the super bowl. they have beaten 4 horrendous teams in a row…philly….seattle..Texans..and bears…doesn’t tell me much.. let me guess gb has sewn up home field throughout right?

  29. bleck5 says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:19 PM

    Pats swept the mighty AFC north again. Lol.

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    That might…. MIGHT… have been impressive if the one good team in that division had the hall of fame qb in that game.

  30. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:02 PM
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    It must be nice playing in a division for 20 years where the teams are always collectively below .500. This year being no different.

    We’re like 9-3 against your division in the last 3 rotations and we’ve been a 6 win team for the last 4 years before this one. Must be nice to start every season with a 6 game headstart on the rest of the league. No wonder you’ve won that division 8 straight years and get a bye every year.
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    Dolphins are 9-5, Bills are 7-7, me scratching head.

  31. Titans baby !!! #11 not bad we are at least one maybe two years ahead of schedule, let’s get that top 5 pick from the Rams to go along with our first rounder. Eight picks in the first three rounds !!! Jon Robinson is a genius…Titan Up !!!

  32. Number of playoff games NFCN has won the last 4 yrs: 1

    Number of playoff gms the Giants have played in the last 4 years: 0

    I don’t get the narrative about the Pats D either. As if they’re some kind of hot mess. They haven’t played a lot of good offenses, but you can only play who’s on your schedule. Are they elite? No. Are they top 5/6? At least. That may be good enough. The numbers are what they are. They’re 1rst in scoring D and have been in the top 5 all year.

  33. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:16 PM
    “Patriots have the GOAT coach”

    Nope, Lombardi, Walsh & Landry would not have lost SB’s to above average Giants teams in 07 & 11 with far superior talent.

    BB is great no doubt, GOAT, no.

  34. That might…. MIGHT… have been impressive if the one good team in that division had the hall of fame qb in that game.

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    What is the Steelers record against Brady’s and Belichick’s Patriots.

    Thats right lol.

    Stealer fans are funny.

  35. justintuckrule says:

    Get your Eli Manning voodoo dolls out Cowboy, Packers and Falcons fans. Eli cometh soon for you.

    Again.
    =================================

    Eli doesn’t have Coughlin anymore. And he can thank his defense for bailing him out the last few games.

  36. 72DolphinsStillUnmatched says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:30 PM
    …Lombardi, Walsh & Landry would not have lost SB’s to above average Giants teams in 07 & 11 with far superior talent. BB is great no doubt, GOAT, no.
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    They never reached enough SBs to find out. And they played in the days before free agency and parity rules, so could keep winning teams together for multiple runs. Anyway, Giants WERE the better team in 2011, but in 2007 they just got incredibly lucky and no GOAT can completely overcome lady luck all the time.

  37. jamaltimore says:

    BTW, the Ravens beat the Dolphins 36-7. They already beat the steelers and will beat them again on christmas. These poles are worthless and should stop at top 5.

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    And the Steelers beat the Giants and the Chiefs, both top 5. So you want it to look like:

    1. Cowboys
    2. Ravens
    3. Dolphins
    4. Steelers
    5. Raiders

    Please. And you’re in for a rude awakening if you think the Ravens are getting the same Steelers team this weekend that beat them in Baltimore.

  38. Keep scratching your head. Two of the teams in your division are so good they’re gonna fire their head coaches in two weeks. Bryce Petty, Tyrod Taylor and now Matt Moore. That’s some Mt. Rushmore of dangerous QBs.

  39. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:02 PM
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    It must be nice playing in a division for 20 years where the teams are always collectively below .500. This year being no different.

    We’re like 9-3 against your division in the last 3 rotations and we’ve been a 6 win team for the last 4 years before this one. Must be nice to start every season with a 6 game headstart on the rest of the league. No wonder you’ve won that division 8 straight years and get a bye every year.

    Trolls are getting lazy. Don’t show up here with this weak stuff. Do your homework or don’t bother coming.

    NE is as good outside the division. What you fail to mention is that the other teams in AFCE frequently start the year with 2 losses to NE. If NE played in any other division the results would be the same. You’re putting too much emphasis on what everyone knows were 2 SB wins on 2 very lucky plays. Well, one lucky one. Manningham made Eli look like a hero. Now we can see evidence that NY needs, and is allowed, a bit of “rule bending” or cheating if you prefer, to win.

    Giants are the most mediocre team ever to win a super bowl. Yeah, they beat denver good 30 years ago but they won on wide right. That’s more Buffalo losing than NY winning.

  40. How does the Pats D “need a lot of work”? They’re a stingy red zone D and no one can really run on them.

    And, they really haven’t schemed much yet, as they’re behind schedule with some new bodies coming in and being late to develop momentum due to the Jamie Collins problem.

    Key figures and pieces in the uptick of the D:

    1. Kyle Van Noy
    2. Using Chris Long less
    3. Eric Rowe as a bigger CB
    4. Shea McClellin as chess piece, moved all around the field.

    Also, 2nd year DT/DE, Trey Flowers is emerging as a pass rusher, making the soon to be 15 mil per year Chandler JOnes, a long forgotten memory.

    Glad I could help!

  41. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:47 PM
    Keep scratching your head. Two of the teams in your division are so good they’re gonna fire their head coaches in two weeks. Bryce Petty, Tyrod Taylor and now Matt Moore. That’s some Mt. Rushmore of dangerous QBs.

    Same lame argument from the crybabies
    Why do you leave out the Patriots win % outside the division every year?

    That’s even more impressive since they play more games outside the division

    They win necousebthey are good.
    Want to put them in the so called “tough AFC north”
    Since 2001 they are 27-8 vs that division

    9-3 vs Baltimore
    8-3 vs Pitt
    5-1 vs cin
    5-1 vs Cleveland

  42. justintuckrule: “It must be nice playing in a division for 20 years where the teams are always collectively below .500. This year being no different.”

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    the Patriots winning percentage vs. the rest of the league (in the Belichick era) is almost exactly the same as their record vs. in-division opponents. 74% vs. the division, 73% vs. the rest of the league, the last time I checked.

    These teams have a winning record vs. Belichick:

    (crickets)

    nobody

    Denver comes closest, at 9-9.

  43. Defenses should be ranked on yards per possession and points per possession.

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    Why?

  44. The biggest joke is the perfect season of the 72 Fins. Go back and look at their sked. Over a 14 game regular season they beat 2 teams with winning records and they were both one win from a .500 season. The 2007 Pats, while they lost that SB in the waning seconds, we’re 6 and 0 against playoff bound teams in the regular season, winning on the road against the 8 and 0 Manning led Colts and on the road against the 5 and 0 Cowboys. They had to face a Charger team in week 2 desperate for revenge over their 14 and 2 loss to the Pats in the 2006 playoffs. Then they beat the Chargers again in the playoffs when the Chargers were on an 11 and 0 run. They had already beaten the Giants in the preseason and again on the road in Week 16. To win the SB, the Pats would have had to beat the Giants 3 times in a season and go 7 and 0 against New York franchises.

  45. Vikings should be lower they have the most over hyped cb in the league xavier rhodes holds 90 percent of the time and when he doesnt he gets toasted.

  46. 5. Chiefs (10-4; No. 2): As it stands, the Chiefs could be getting a chance to lose to the Titans again in the wild-card round.
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    No they wouldn’t. Texans are leading the AFC South. As it stands, Titans are staying home.

  47. What really is the point of this. Look at the Ravens for instance , ok the the Fins have a better record but 2 weeks ago they made us look like little people trying to play with the big boys. These rankings are false what do they prove. Miami are improving but in no way are we at the level of the Ravens or Packers. Pedigree needs to be factored in. I love the Dolphins and if we do slide in I am afraid it will be a early exit and hopefully not an embarrassing one like the last time we got into the playoffs back in 1880’s

  48. FYI………..since realignment to 32 teams, there really isn’t a “first place”schedule any more, and the schedule is automatically determined. There is no “scheduler” anymore.

    Even Gruden brought up the “tougher” schedule nonsense last night.

    There are two games different from a first place schedule to any other schedule.

    If you want to blame two games as a “tougher schedule” argument, cry us a river.

  49. Chiefs lose to a pretty good Titans team and the haters come back out. Yes, they’ve lost to the 9-5 Steelers, 8-6 Bucs, 8-6 Titans and 8-6 Texans…but have beaten the 9-5 Falcons, the 7-7 Colts, the 8-6 Broncos and SWEPT the 11-3 Faiders. That’s 5-4 against teams .500 or better, more than HALF their games. So, you know, keep bringing the hate. Can’t wait to end the Broncos season Christmas night only to have the Broncos end the Faiders chances of getting the #2 seed and the AFC West New Year’s Day in Denver! Chiefs #2 seed and a rematch with the Pats in the Championship game.

  50. In the last two years, vs division opponents the Patriots are 8-2 and the ave game score has been 25-19.

    In the last two years, vs out of division opponents their record is 17-3 and the average score has been 29-17.

    winning 85% of the games outside the division, by an average 12-point margin,
    vs.
    winning 80% of the games inside the division, by an average 6-point margin,

    Sounds like the Patriots would benefit from playing in one of the many weaker divisions in the NFL.

  51. I love these lists because they mean nothing and get people so fired up at the same time. As a Patriots fan, I couldn’t care less if they were listed #1 or #8. I’m happy the kicking game is straightened out and the defense is playing well. Those are more important than rankings.

  52. I’m glad that PFT puts the Hawks at #6 in their rankings, compared to the #3 slot they’re in on NFL.com and ESPN. #6 just seems much closer to what we see from them on game day. They still have a great shot at the Super Bowl, but they have not been performing to the elite level we have previously seen from them.

  53. 1. Patriots (12-2; last week No. 1):

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    My goodness. 🙂 That does have such a nice ring to it. Doesn’t it?

    🙂

  54. You mean the Patriots #1 scoring defense needs plenty of work.

    Check the correlation between scoring defense and Super Bowl victories when you have time.

  55. To all: I’m not saying the Pats aren’t good. They have the best two people that the league has ever seen. But please….let’s focus on my initial comment shall we. They’ve been in a bunk division for 20 years and are gifted 6 wins before the season starts. Indeed, my “mediocre”, “lucky”, overrated team is 9-3 against your division the last 3 cycles. In one of those cycles, we were a 6 win team and we still were a dropped Collins pick away from beating you a 3rd time in a row. Yes, the Pats have done well outside of their division. That’s not the issue. Getting 6 wins in June means they only need to win 5 or 6 of their remaining 10 games to win the division or get a bye. That’s what I’m talking about. So back it down.

  56. conormacleod says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:03 PM

    How many QB’s have more SB wins than Eli?

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    Answer: None that have ever worn the Barney purple jersey. In fact, no Barney QB has ANY Super Bowl wins.

  57. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 12:55 PM
    Get your Eli Manning voodoo dolls out Cowboy, Packers and Falcons fans. Eli cometh soon for you.

    Again.

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    I think Dallas would definitely like another crack at Eli…2 wins by 4 points….last game they played Eli turned it over 3 times and got lucky that Dallas’ safety dropped to balls that hit him in the hands…..nobody is fearing Eli…..now the matchup against their defense…thats another story….just dont think Dallas matches up well. Beating a team 3 times in one season….thats hard to do, just ask the 2007 Cowboys how that worked out in the playoffs.

  58. Mike Tomlin says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:44 PM
    jamaltimore says:

    BTW, the Ravens beat the Dolphins 36-7. They already beat the steelers and will beat them again on christmas. These poles are worthless and should stop at top 5.

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    And the Steelers beat the Giants and the Chiefs, both top 5. So you want it to look like:

    1. Cowboys
    2. Ravens
    3. Dolphins
    4. Steelers
    5. Raiders

    Please. And you’re in for a rude awakening if you think the Ravens are getting the same Steelers team this weekend that beat them in Baltimore.
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    Correct, they’re playing a Steelers team that should have lost to the 5 win Bengals last week and struggled mightily.

  59. weeteblog says:

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    I think Dallas would definitely like another crack at Eli…2 wins by 4 points….last game they played Eli turned it over 3 times and got lucky that Dallas’ safety dropped to balls that hit him in the hands…..nobody is fearing Eli…..now the matchup against their defense…thats another story….just dont think Dallas matches up well. Beating a team 3 times in one season….thats hard to do, just ask the 2007 Cowboys how that worked out in the playoffs.
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    Love how any time we win, non-Giants fans have to play the luck card. Everyone else wins because of skill but it’s always “luck” with us.
    By the way….the 3 wins deal doesn’t apply to the Giants. Ask the 86 Skins.

  60. Fun Fact: The AFC East has had a representative in the conference championship game 7 years and counting, and in 9 of the past 10 seasons.

    Fun Fact: If the division was as bad as some of you insist it is, the AFC East teams would go one and done a lot more often. That’s because pretender teams who win pretender divisions don’t last long in the playoffs.

    Fun Fact: The success of the New England Patriots, winners of more Super Bowls… well you should know by now how the rest goes. 😉 …. is not a product of their division.

    I only preach the truth cupcakes. Only the truth and the facts. Could care less whether the truth hurts or not.

    🙂

  61. 1. Patriots (12-2; last week No. 1): The defense may not be as bad as believed, but it still needs plenty of work.
    NE has conceded 233 points, the least in the 14 games of the season so far…

  62. This is a very tough business and every win is a struggle. There’s no assurance who will win any of these games, boasting of posters to this site, notwithstanding.

    It takes preparation, mental and physical discipline, and a game plan that just be executed.

    This season is heading to an exciting conclusion. We’ll know more Sunday evening.

  63. These rankings are funny, and don’t really matter. The Steelers have won 5 games in a row with 4 of them being away games, and beat both the Giants and Chiefs. Yet, the Giants and Chiefs are ranked higher. LOL.

  64. Chiefs lose to a pretty good Titans team and the haters come back out. Yes, they’ve lost to the 9-5 Steelers, 8-6 Bucs, 8-6 Titans and 8-6 Texans…but have beaten the 9-5 Falcons, the 7-7 Colts, the 8-6 Broncos and SWEPT the 11-3 Faiders. That’s 5-4 against teams .500 or better, more than HALF their games. So, you know, keep bringing the hate. Can’t wait to end the Broncos season Christmas night only to have the Broncos end the Faiders chances of getting the #2 seed and the AFC West New Year’s Day in Denver! Chiefs #2 seed and a rematch with the Pats in the Championship game.
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    Raiders, beat Bucs, Titans, and Texans. Chiefs have not played Raiders at full strength. They will lose to Broncos this week! Oakland Raiders 2016 AFC West Champion. Have fun in Kansantarctica watching everyone else win and your Chefs LOSE!!!!! Here’s to a long cold winter, and ice fishing for the Chefs !!!!!!!

  65. “Defenses should be ranked on yards per possession and points per possession. Impossible to assess the Pats defence without looking at them per possession”

    Lol those stats are irrelevant.

    There’s only one defensive stat that really matters. Points allowed per game.

    Nothing else matters when compared to the numbers on the scoreboard at the end of the game, and the Pats D has given up the fewest points per game of any team this year.

    Ie; at this particular moment in time, the Pats have the best defense in the league. I’m not saying that won’t change and sometimes it will do so week to week if other defense are close. It think Denver is the next closest after the Pats, 17 points more or something like that.

    But for at least until the next round of games this weekend, Pats have the #1 D in the on statistic that matters the most.

  66. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:37 PM
    To all: I’m not saying the Pats aren’t good. They have the best two people that the league has ever seen. But please….let’s focus on my initial comment shall we. They’ve been in a bunk division for 20 years and are gifted 6 wins before the season starts. Indeed, my “mediocre”, “lucky”, overrated team is 9-3 against your division the last 3 cycles. In one of those cycles, we were a 6 win team and we still were a dropped Collins pick away from beating you a 3rd time in a row. Yes, the Pats have done well outside of their division. That’s not the issue. Getting 6 wins in June means they only need to win 5 or 6 of their remaining 10 games to win the division or get a bye. That’s what I’m talking about. So back it down.

    Your argument is still flawed
    They never go 6-0 in the division so they are not “gifted 6 wins”

    Usually go 4-2 which means they are winning 8-9 games outside the division every season

    If you want to use this argument the better team to use would be the Colts

    Since 2001 that has been the worst division in football

  67. Patriots advance to the SB after it was proven they cheated in the AFC Championship game, and you’ve the nerve to mention the Giants use of “walkie talkies” in a regular season game against the Cowboys who are 12-2 after having the softest schedule in the NFL all year?!

    What a crock.

  68. “How many QB’s have more SB wins than Eli?
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    Answer: None that have ever worn the Barney purple jersey. In fact, no Barney QB has ANY Super Bowl wins.”

    While it’s true that no Barney QB has ever won a Super Bowl while being a Barney, Brad Johnson did win a Super Bowl after leaving that miserable franchise.

  69. mataug says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:59 PM
    1. Patriots (12-2; last week No. 1): The defense may not be as bad as believed, but it still needs plenty of work.
    NE has conceded 233 points, the least in the 14 games of the season so far…
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    That is true but they are 10th in the league in yards allowed per game.

    I think the defense has been fine for the most part and there have been some tough teams on the schedule, but there are still a couple of games vs weak teams that tilt that scale towards a low amount of points:
    Texans, Bills, Browns, 49ers, Jets, Broncos, Rams
    Those teams average together about 14 points/game

  70. Yeah…nobody is believing that the Chiefs could beat #6-#12 on this list after last Sunday. SO they should be about #12 just ahead of the Broncos. And after next Sunday maybe even lower.

  71. Belichick is 95-27 vs the AFC East. That’s a .778 win%

    That’s one of the most impressive stats I’ve ever seen. But don’t try and tell me the AFC East isn’t a weak division. That’s not what the record bears out.

  72. Why isn’t my team ranked higher? Why aren’t their rivals ranked lower? I hate power Rankings because they are meaningless, yet I care enough to comment every week, rabble, rabble, rabble.

  73. can’t wait for next weeks rankings after Vikings sweep the Pack, what will the justification be for the Packers to stay ahead in the rankings? better stock up on popcorn, it will be a fun read.

  74. Re # 10 / 13 Dolphins the Broncos point. Correct the Broncos didn’t want to hire Adam Gase. But I believe they won the SB last season with out him.

  75. The AFCE is so bad, the Pats can dress Brady, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and 19 of their nozzles from Southie and they’d still beat the Jets by 14 this weekend. Puhllleeeesseeeee….Trying to convince us that the AFCE is good. GTHOHWT.

  76. bleck5 says:
    Dec 20, 2016 1:34 PM

    That might…. MIGHT… have been impressive if the one good team in that division had the hall of fame qb in that game.

    __________
    What is the Steelers record against Brady’s and Belichick’s Patriots.

    Thats right lol.

    Stealer fans are funny.
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    I’m not a Steelers fan. And again, the AFC north is bad this year. And the one decent team, the Steelers were without their QB in that game. I’m not impressed they swept the NFC north. There really aren’t any other teams that should compete with them in the AFC. If they don’t cakewalk to the SB it’s a massive chokejob.

  77. Skawh says ” the patriots advanced to the super bowl after it was proven they cheated”. Really, then why did the NFL tell judge Berman they had NO EVIDENCE??? Then why did 21 scientists write a brief to the court because it was science , not tampering. Then why were Pittsburgh ‘s footballs in compliance , per the NFL , just last week???
    After all this time, only those who deny science, or the laws of physics, believe the footballs were tampered with.
    What color exactly is the sky in your world, the world where the laws of physics don’t apply!!!

  78. hehateme2 says:
    Dec 20, 2016 3:53 PM

    You forgot to add the * by the pats name.

    Here ya go cupcake! 🙂

    Pats*

    * Winners of more Super Bowls than any NFL team in the last 25 years, winners of more games this century than any NFL team, home of the greatest QB of all time, home of the winningest QB of all time, home of the greatest head coach of all time, home of the greatest fanbase in football as shown by a recent study, the paragon of excellence in the modern NFL and if we are being completely honest, the paragon of excellence in any sport at any time.

  79. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    “the paragon of excellence in any sport at any time.”

    Must have forgotten about about another Boston icon named Bill Russell.

  80. The Patriots are the best team in the League.

    They have the best coach in the League.

    They have the best QB in the League.

    And the have the worst fans in the League.

    It’s a near superfecta.

  81. If you’re so confident about the Packers going to the SB, why are they ranked so low??? They should be in the top 10.

  82. Lions are ranked too high, Bears too low. Right now the Bears would beat most of the teams in the bottom 20. Packers are a bit too low too, should be around #10 or so.

  83. 3. Giants (10-4; No. 4): It’ll be time to apply an asterisk to Super Bowl XLII if it turns out someone was shouting “throw it to Tyree!” into a walkie-talkie.
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    Wonderful!!!

  84. Raiders, beat Bucs, Titans, and Texans. Chiefs have not played Raiders at full strength. They will lose to Broncos this week! Oakland Raiders 2016 AFC West Champion. Have fun in Kansantarctica watching everyone else win and your Chefs LOSE!!!!! Here’s to a long cold winter, and ice fishing for the Chefs !!!!!!!
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    LOL!!! And the Chiefs were at full strength in game one minus JC and Houston? PLEASE!!! Almost NO team is at “full strength” during the course of an NFL season and unless I missed something “DAVID” Carr played, pinky and all, so, yeah, your team was just at full strength as the Chiefs, BOTH games, and got SWEPT! And when the Faiders lose against the Donkeys week 17 the Chiefs win the West, finish 6-0 in the toughest division in the NFL, gain a Bye as the 2 seed.

    But it IS cute that Faider fans are this delirious after 13 losing seasons. Just. So. CUTE!

    Have fun watching your team in Vegas next year, baby! LOL

  85. I love the rankings because of how it makes everyone react. I love reading the usual “my team beat your team so my team is really better” and the “they’re just lucky and my team had a harder schedule” blah blah blah.

    Giants got a lot of hate mail in this week’s ranking too – I guess people are only now realizing that they are one game from clinching a playoff (call it luck, call it schedule, call it whatever you want – I call it 10 wins, which is not easy to do in the NFL however you get there).

    Folks need to relax a bit – Giants at 3 doesn’t really mean they are awesomely better than the Steelers at

  86. Sorry, hit submit too soon.

    As I was saying, Folks need to relax a bit – Giants at 3 doesn’t really mean they are awesomely better than the Steelers at whatever. Any team can beat any other team on any given Sun…except maybe the Browns.

    Lots of parity this year…well, except for the bottom 5 I suppose…so playoffs should be awesome!

  87. Love it how Fan Girl Army believes that playoff eliibility is structured and dependent upon random media Power Rankings. They got you right where they want you. Are you guys psyched for medIA mock drafts. All the coaches use them. HO, HO, HO!

  88. “No they wouldn’t. Texans are leading the AFC South. As it stands, Titans are staying home.”

    You understand the Texans are going to have to win a road game in Tennessee Week 17, right?

  89. Pats*

    *9 (nine!) less Titles than the Packers

    *Owners of less Titles than the Bears, Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers & Giants

    *The Browns, Colts and mighty DETROIT LIONS have as many Titles (4)

    *As many Super Bowl losses (4) as wins (4)

    *Only the Broncos have more Super Bowl losses (5)

    *Tuck Rule

    *Spygate

    *Deflategate

    *Undisputed Champions of controversy!

  90. Belichick is 95-27 vs the AFC East. That’s a .778 win%

    That’s one of the most impressive stats I’ve ever seen. But don’t try and tell me the AFC East isn’t a weak division. That’s not what the record bears out.
    ———————-

    Nearly identical record outside the division. Next.

  91. vikingsdefineaverage says:
    Dec 20, 2016 3:24 PM

    mataug says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:59 PM
    1. Patriots (12-2; last week No. 1): The defense may not be as bad as believed, but it still needs plenty of work.
    NE has conceded 233 points, the least in the 14 games of the season so far…
    ____________________________________
    That is true but they are 10th in the league in yards allowed per game.

    I think the defense has been fine for the most part and there have been some tough teams on the schedule, but there are still a couple of games vs weak teams that tilt that scale towards a low amount of points:
    Texans, Bills, Browns, 49ers, Jets, Broncos, Rams
    Those teams average together about 14 points/game
    ————————————————–
    No argument about schedule, 14 games were engraved in stone back in 2002, it is what it is. But, the problem with judging a defense by yards allowed per game doesn’t take into account the teams that will allow their opponents to run/pass all over the field, taking time off the clock, except within the red zone. They should come up with a formula that accounts for everything a defense does, not just one arbitrary stat. So any defensive ranking is subjective.

  92. Pats*

    *9 (nine!) less Titles than the Packers

    *Owners of less Titles than the Bears, Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers & Giants

    *The Browns, Colts and mighty DETROIT LIONS have as many Titles (4)

    *As many Super Bowl losses (4) as wins (4)

    *Only the Broncos have more Super Bowl losses (5)

    *Tuck Rule

    *Spygate

    *Deflategate

    *Undisputed Champions of controversy!
    ___________________________________
    Are you saying the GOATS are not GOAT? They are GOAT Cheaters at least!

  93. 72DolphinsStillUnmatched says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:34 PM
    Why do Pats fans think the AFCE the last 15 years has been as good as the NFCE from the mid 80’s to mid 90’s??LOL

    80s to mid 90s? Living in the past are you?

  94. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:37 PM
    To all: I’m not saying the Pats aren’t good. They have the best two people that the league has ever seen. But please….let’s focus on my initial comment shall we. They’ve been in a bunk division for 20 years and are gifted 6 wins before the season starts. Indeed, my “mediocre”, “lucky”, overrated team is 9-3 against your division the last 3 cycles. In one of those cycles, we were a 6 win team and we still were a dropped Collins pick away from beating you a 3rd time in a row. Yes, the Pats have done well outside of their division. That’s not the issue. Getting 6 wins in June means they only need to win 5 or 6 of their remaining 10 games to win the division or get a bye. That’s what I’m talking about. So back it down.

    Why do you keep up this nonsense when you are continually proven wrong?

  95. justintuckrule says:
    Dec 20, 2016 3:47 PM
    The AFCE is so bad, the Pats can dress Brady, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon and 19 of their nozzles from Southie and they’d still beat the Jets by 14 this weekend. Puhllleeeesseeeee….Trying to convince us that the AFCE is good. GTHOHWT.

    And the AFC west has been such a juggernaut? Chiefs and Raiders have been a laughing stock for the better part of the century and you’ve split a couple winning seasons between the Broncos and the Chargers. Basically the same results as the AFC east buddy. Get over it. I can almost guarantee the results would have been just the same if Brady was in your division. Raiders have their first good season in 18 years and all the sudden your fan base is strutting around like a tough guy. Please, just be happy you’re there and hope you get back next year

  96. Pats*

    *9 (nine!) less Titles than the Packers

    *Owners of less Titles than the Bears, Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers & Giants

    *The Browns, Colts and mighty DETROIT LIONS have as many Titles (4)

    *As many Super Bowl losses (4) as wins (4)

    *Only the Broncos have more Super Bowl losses (5)

    *Tuck Rule

    *Spygate

    *Deflategate

    *Undisputed Champions of controversy!

    ___________
    Silly packer fan. We’ve already won as many lombardi’s as your mediocre franchise in a short time. Stop clinging to that inflated 13 championship number when half the current teams weren’t even conceived when they were won.

    Enjoy getting swept by the embarrassing Viking in that scary NFC North

  97. chieffanforlifehelpme says:
    Dec 20, 2016 2:24 PM
    Chiefs lose to a pretty good Titans team and the haters come back out. Yes, they’ve lost to the 9-5 Steelers, 8-6 Bucs, 8-6 Titans and 8-6 Texans…but have beaten the 9-5 Falcons, the 7-7 Colts, the 8-6 Broncos and SWEPT the 11-3 Faiders. That’s 5-4 against teams .500 or better, more than HALF their games. So, you know, keep bringing the hate. Can’t wait to end the Broncos season Christmas night only to have the Broncos end the Faiders chances of getting the #2 seed and the AFC West New Year’s Day in Denver! Chiefs #2 seed and a rematch with the Pats in the Championship game.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
    I gave you a thumbs up just because your message has lots of numbers and words. Oh, the Chiefs aren’t going anywhere!!

  98. The 2016-2017 Super Bowl Champs are way too low at #15. Stick with your pre season pick. The Ravens are the class of the NFL. They own the Cheats, The Steelers, The Giants etc…

  99. skawh says:
    Dec 20, 2016 3:08 PM
    Patriots advance to the SB after it was proven they cheated in the AFC Championship game, and you’ve the nerve to mention the Giants use of “walkie talkies” in a regular season game against the Cowboys who are 12-2 after having the softest schedule in the NFL all year?!

    What a crock.

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    They cheated against the Ravens initially. Would have smashed Seattle that year. Illegal formations and deflated balls. The Ravens are the true Super Bowl 49 champs

  100. flaccojumpball says:
    Dec 20, 2016 6:46 PM

    They cheated against the Ravens initially. Would have smashed Seattle that year. Illegal formations and deflated balls. The Ravens are the true Super Bowl 49 champ

    ———

    Always a lot of “would haves” and “should haves” with Ravens fans. The Ravens had their chance to prove something a few weeks back….they showed what they were…..limp.

  101. arydcline99 says:
    Dec 20, 2016 4:39 PM

    LyinRogerMustGo says:
    “the paragon of excellence in any sport at any time.”

    Must have forgotten about about another Boston icon named Bill Russell.


    Of course there’s no team named after Russell, as I was referring to teams.

    🙂

  102. flaccojumpball says:
    Dec 20, 2016 6:46 PM

    They cheated against the Ravens initially. Would have smashed Seattle that year. Illegal formations and deflated balls. The Ravens are the true Super Bowl 49 champ

    —–

    Oh wait, you’re right. I remember now–I rode a magic choo-choo train to Candyland where you’re the mayor and the police chief. Then we both erased the record book, and scribbled in crayon the name “Ray-vins” where the “New England Patriots – Super Bowl Champions” used to be.

    Done!

  103. As a Patriots fan I would welcome another chance to play the Giants or Hawks again in the SB; those were all great games. Actually would just love to see BB and TB12 one more time in THE big game. You never know….. I remember watching Marino lose to Montana in his one and only SB game; little did he realize it would be his one and only trip.

  104. It must be nice playing in a division for 20 years where the teams are always collectively below .500. This year being no different.

    We’re like 9-3 against your division in the last 3 rotations and we’ve been a 6 win team for the last 4 years before this one. Must be nice to start every season with a 6 game headstart on the rest of the league. No wonder you’ve won that division 8 straight years and get a bye every year.
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    The problem with that theory is the Pats have a better win/loss record outside their division than within, even though they play every conferences division leader every year…care to explain that?

  105. Patriots play in garbage division. They are a good team so they play well against all teams. But in-division they barely need to break a sweat, so it is like they get 6 extra bye weeks. And many of their divisional losses come in the final weeks of the season, when Pats have usually sewn up their playoff bid and giving less than full effort.

    The proof that the division sucks is that Bills, Jets and Dolphins have accounted for, what, 2 or 3 playoff appearances in 20 years? But yeah, suuuuuuuuure, they don’t stink. You Pats fans love talking about the truth but really hate hearing it

  106. bleck5 says:
    Dec 20, 2016 6:05 PM
    Pats*

    *9 (nine!) less Titles than the Packers

    *Owners of less Titles than the Bears, Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Steelers & Giants

    *The Browns, Colts and mighty DETROIT LIONS have as many Titles (4)

    *As many Super Bowl losses (4) as wins (4)

    *Only the Broncos have more Super Bowl losses (5)

    *Tuck Rule

    *Spygate

    *Deflategate

    *Undisputed Champions of controversy!
    ————-
    Sooo are titles the same as Lombardi trophies?

    Do titles count more when there’s 14 whole teams?

    Does cold weather not deflate footballs naturally?

    Why is there an asterisk for the tuck rule? It was a bad rule but correctly enforced and ironically used against the Pats earlier in that same season.

  107. Stop clinging to that inflated 13 championship number when half the current teams weren’t even conceived when they were won.
    =====
    Why would I do that?

    Sorry your team wasn’t in existence while mine was winning Championships.

    I’m sure you’re a Celtics fan. Would you toss out the Bill Russell-era with a whopping 8 teams in the NBA while he and Aurbach were winning all those Championships? I doubt it.

    And as Russell dominated his competition, Don Hutson did as well. He STILL holds 23 NFL records. Think about that. In an era where the passing game was invented, the original WR set records that may never be broken in an era where passing records are being broken left and right.

    So no, I won’t disregard a relevevant era of football. Nor should I.

    Come back to me when you have 3-peated (TWICE) or if you manage to win 5 Titles in a decade.

  108. npadln says:
    Dec 20, 2016 8:45 PM

    As a Patriots fan I would welcome another chance to play the Giants or Hawks again …

    —————-
    As a Giants fan, I agree. Man that would be EPIC.

    If that were to happen, and if (and this is a huge if) the Giants would win a third SB against the Pats, it just tells me God has a sense of humor.

  109. So for years we heard Cris Carter on the ESPN Sunday football show state that, “Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL, bar none.” Are we going there again? Jeez, there’s a guy in New England whose been to the big dance 6 times and won 4 titles. I am thinking that he is the best QB in the NFL, bar none. The numbers don’t lie.

    It’s also important to point out to aj66shanghai that, yes, I agree that the AFC East has been a bad division for a long time but the Pats do take care of business most times. They didn’t last year and it cost them a trip to the SB. Outside the AFC East the Pats have lost 1 game and are undefeated on the road. I’m just saying. They are still a really good football team.

  110. I think Dallas would definitely like another crack at Eli…2 wins by 4 points….last game they played Eli turned it over 3 times and got lucky that Dallas’ safety dropped to balls that hit him in the hands…..nobody is fearing Eli…..now the matchup against their defense…thats another story….just dont think Dallas matches up well. Beating a team 3 times in one season….thats hard to do, just ask the 2007 Cowboys how that worked out in the playoffs.
    _______________

    Imagine how much the Giants would have won by if Eli didn’t turn it over three times…

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