Vikings’ DBs defied Zimmer, ignored plan for covering Jordy Nelson

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Packers receiver Jordy Nelson had a huge first half against the Vikings today, catching seven passes for 145 yards and two touchdowns before halftime. And he did it against a Minnesota secondary that was defying the orders of head coach Mike Zimmer to have cornerback Xavier Rhodes shadow Nelson.

At halftime, Zimmer ordered the players to go back to the game plan of Rhodes shadowing Nelson, and it worked: Nelson managed just two catches for nine yards in the second half. But the damage was done in the first half. After the game, Zimmer acknowledged that the players hadn’t followed the game plan until he told them they had to at halftime.

“That’s what he was supposed to do the whole game,” Zimmer said, via the Star-Tribune. “Someone decided they wouldn’t do that.”

So who decided to go against the coach’s orders?

“To be honest, I really don’t want to answer that,” Rhodes said.

But as reporters asked him to explain, Rhodes did: He said the defensive backs decided on their own that he shouldn’t shadow Nelson because he hadn’t shadowed Nelson when they had faced the Packers in the past.

“We felt as a team, as players, we came together and we felt like we’d never done that when we played against the Packers,” Rhodes said. “Us as DBs felt like we could handle him. That’s how we felt as DBs that we could stay on our side and cover him. In the beginning, we’d always played against them and played our sides, so that’s what we as DBs went with.”

Zimmer confirmed that he exchanged words with cornerback Terence Newman about it in the first half.

“In the first half when Terence Newman came over and said something to me like ‘I can cover this guy, let me have him,’” Zimmer said. “I said, ‘do what you’re supposed to do.’”

It wasn’t until the second half that the Vikings’ defensive backs did what they were supposed to do. By that point, Nelson had done his damage. For the players to defy their coach like that is stunning.

139 responses to “Vikings’ DBs defied Zimmer, ignored plan for covering Jordy Nelson

  1. Stupid players. Sit them down for the last game. Then trade, fine or cut them The players cant run the show.

  2. I’m surprised Zimmer didn’t bench somebody in the first half, just to send a message to the rest.

  3. In October they looked like the best team in the league. Two months later they’re mired in dysfunction. Easier to get rid of the coach the players are ignoring than it is to get new players.

  4. So did they get that plane out of the muck in Appleton — or does the team ride a cold bus back to Minneapolis?

    Of maybe just the DBs.

  5. This is incredible. no wonder they had the collapse they did. You’d never see this in NE. Maybe Seattle or Buffalo.

  6. How does Zimmer not bench Rhoades? Letting the inmates run the asylum is a death kiss for a NFL coach. Zimmer is done as In Minnesota.

  7. I seem to remember Viking fans were touting Zimmer for coach of the year. A 2-8 stretch will raise some doubt in anyone’s mind but I didn’t expect the greatest doubt to come from the player’s themselves.

    Excuses seem to flow so easy these days that even the players are following the lead of the Viking posters. Well the good news is they have the rest of the off season to perfect them.

  8. Sounds like someone should lose their job for this collapse. It can either be players, the coach, or the GM.

    I know I would prefer it to be the GM, but after 50 years of being losers, I wouldn’t care if they fired them all. I’m just sick of it!

  9. My question is, how did this happen for an entire half? Belichick would have pulled him the 3rd play he didn’t cover his guy, and if the answer to why was “We decided not to do what you told us to” that guy would have been on a plane home, minus uniform, before halftime even happened.

  10. thetroofishere says:
    Dec 24, 2016 5:45 PM
    Trade Xavier Rhodes to Dallas.

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    Trade him to Cleveland for a 7th rounder and a slightly worn football.

  11. It must be nice to have the kind of job security that allows players to get away with this. Everybody I know would be looking for a new job tomorrow, including myself.

  12. This – and the players admitting it to the press – makes the Norv Turner event really interesting.

    There’s no way at all it was simply Norv deciding to go.

    For players to have an insurrection and admit it to the press – there has to be some serious issues at the management level and on up in Minny.

  13. I’m not sure which is worse: the fact that the players openly defied Zimmer, the fact that those players were freely willing to admit that they defied Zimmer, or the fact that Zimmer didn’t do anything about it. Yikes.

  14. How did this happen? According to Vikings fans Rodgers is in major decline, Jordy is old and slow and Zimmer is the second coming of Lombardi?!? The North is the Vikings division for the next decade right?!? SKOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

  15. There is something reallly wrong going on there because this isn’t like Rhodes. He was one of those team first guys when he came out of FSU, which has helped him maximize his talent. Plus, Newman came over with Zimmer from Cincy for his leadership qualities more than how he’s playing these days. What’s really going on?

  16. Vikings were done once they played Philly, and the Eagles exposed Sam Bradford as being Sam Bradford. They were never going to be what they were being made out to be early. Their weakness on both sides of the ball is the line, that’s a recipe for failure

  17. Unfortunate news to go public with at the end of a collapse. It’s surprising I thought Zimmer was respected above all else.

  18. thefatlazygamer,
    Now how much different would your perception of this season be if they weren’t silly in trading for Bradford? This team would have been about 6-10 or 7-9 best case scenario regardless, and you don’t weaken your future, either in having to draft another QB because Bridgewater can’t come back or you can help that horrible offensive line or you can replace Peterson who is at the end of the road with one of these stud backs coming out this year. The possibilities were endless. Instead, you have a itter taste in your mouth because management decided that gambling on Bradford being good enough to take them to the Super Bowl was a good probability. Whole different perception of the season for that reason and frankly, someone should be fired for that, which is funny if one of them gets fired since this was totally avoidable as no one was going to kill anyone for losing their starting QB 10 days before the season started regardless of what happened this year.

  19. I recall that earlier this season the Vikings were #1 on the pft weekly power ranking for a week or so.

    Vikings trolls can hold dearly onto that as proof how great this team was.

    .. and block out the rest.

  20. Zimmer is a great person, however, he’s a stern disciplinarian. Picture a younger Tom Coughlin.

    Today’s coddled athletes don’t respond well to coaches like this unless their last name is Belichick. Guys go to NE to win. Minnesota has no winning culture.

    Another reason the game is a mess.

  21. I suspected this has been going on for a long time “since the bye” there was something said or done before the bye that totally turned that team against Zimmer . I notice when he was out against the Cowboys it was not the whole team saying they were trying to win for Zim . That is a divided team and a divided house cannot stand long quoting Lincoln .

  22. Defensive mutiny in the Vikings secondary. Not good optics for this team. Perhaps they hijacked the plane last night. Complete implosion of a team that started with such promise.

  23. I told others that Zimmer had lost control of his team after he threw his o line in the bus. Why is everyone blaming his players when he treats them like garbage? Norv Turner resigned for a reason. This guy can’t keep his mouth shut.

  24. have to side with the players on this one. cant see zimmer covering anyone to be honest. too old and too slow. who is he to dictate to the players what they should do, when he couldn’t do it himself.? and i’m a life long viking fan.

  25. A young defense with a lot of potential all of a sudden becoming uncoachable, or abandoning film studies all week.

    Something happened the last few weeks I don’t know if it’s freelancing trying to make plays to make up the offense but when playing as one unit they are one of the best in the league. Playing as individua1 players is the reason they are performing worse and worse late in the season.

    If the Vikings do turn Zimmer loose because of this collapse,and losing the team, there will be teams like Jags looking for him at HC and all sorts of team interested him at DC

  26. The person who says you can’t coach that way like Belichick does or be a stern disciplinarian is right. You have to be like that guy who coaches the Giants and lets Beckham runs the asylum. Or Pete Carroll.

  27. leatherface2012 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 6:33 PM
    have to side with the players on this one. cant see zimmer covering anyone to be honest. too old and too slow. who is he to dictate to the players what they should do, when he couldn’t do it himself.? and i’m a life long viking fan.
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    Are you saying that coaches can’t coach players unless they are just as skilled as they are? Wouldn’t they be playing rather than coaching then? Does it get lonely in outer space?

  28. Prior to last season Bob McGinn wrote an article in the Milwaukee Joirnal Sentinel about how corners that are physical at the line throw Nelson off his game and he has very little success. His biggest example was ‘Toast’ Rhodes. Toast handles guys by mailing them off the line. If he has to get out and cover, well, he lives up to his nickname. Zimmer is probably a bottom 5 head coach. He wants to be a bad ass and talks a good game, but it’s obvious his players think of him as more of a joke than anything. However, the man knows how to call a defense and made the right call to shut down Nelson. Of course we’ll never know if the outcome would have been less embarrassing for the Vikings if they had played as they were told to play, but once Toast started mugging Nelson at the line, Nelson didn’t do a whole lot. There’s a reason that Zimmer had been passed over for HC jobs for so long. He just doesn’t have what it takes to be a head coach.

  29. Players “Freelancing”? WTH….I guess I thought the coach made the game plan, and called the shots. I wouldn’t ever think this is necessary, but it sounds like the DB’s & their DB coach, need to be sat down & re-instructed on the whole chain of command thing.
    Follow the HC’s instructions, or find yourself on the cut list, or trade block.

  30. skoLOL!!! Christmas came early!
    Unfortunately we’ll have to experience another offseason of the Viking brass hanging around the Lambeau Field dumpsters looking for professional prospects.

  31. Something they have “never done against the Packers, “Jordy wasn’t back to his old self in week 2, and the Vikings didn’t have to worry about him last year.

    So I understand why Rhodes feels they never had todo that, but there is also a reason, Zimmer was brought in to COACH. It’s a waste his time with players having that kind of attitude.

  32. chronsy says:
    Dec 24, 2016 6:09 PM
    Glad I an not a vikings fan – Browns fan
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    Wow! You know it’s a bad day when you’re being successfully trolled by a Browns fan.
    skoLOL!!!

  33. Now it all seems to make some sense….Zimmer throwing the team under the bus after Philly, Norv “resigning”, a great defensive effort against Dallas with Zimmer missing, defensive collapses against Indy and GB. Do you fire the players or the coach and who do you get?

  34. Hard enough to fathom the players doing it never mind Zimmer letting it go on for an entire half. Just mind boggling.

  35. I see a lot of smack talking coming from Packer’s fans here…..funny, your team hasn’t made the playoffs either. It will be funny, if they do, watching them get beat like a drum, when they have to go into Dallas.
    Ooooooh the mighty Pack beat a team that has more injuries than an orthopedic unit at the hospital.
    I didn’t hear you say anything after the almighty Pack, when they got spanked in MN.
    Hmmmmmmm

  36. Only thing I can think is that he let it go on for the half to prove to the players that they don’t know better.

  37. If the Vikings coach says the players were messing up, and the Viking players admit they were messing up and not listening to the coach.

    Is it still the refs fault the Vikings lost?

  38. Wow, as if their complete collapse wasnt enough. There has to be more to this story. Its hard to believe the players would completely defy their head coach and then its just as strange that the coach would call them out in public. Whatever dysfunction they have, if they want to recover, they should keep it in the locker room. Bizarre. Any Viking fan who criticized McCarthy this year should ask for forgiveness. Therein lies a lesson in professionalism through adversity.

  39. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:28 PM
    I didn’t hear you say anything after the almighty Pack, when they got spanked in MN.

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    Seriously? Are you still here? I think the Timberwolves are playing tomorrow.

  40. You have to wonder if Zimmer has lost this team. Norv knew there was a locker room problem and it surfaced today. Lots of cleanup to do this offseason.

  41. Hmmm…….lets see, did the refs tell Terence Newman that he could cover Jordy Nelson on his own and that Rhodes should just go ahead and do his own thing.

    If they did, then maybe Leatherface has been right all along.

  42. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:28 PM
    I didn’t hear you say anything after the almighty Pack, when they got spanked in MN.
    Hmmmmmmm
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    That’s because most people don’t yap when their team gets beat- just Vikings’ fans like to do that.

  43. Can someone explain to me how theVikings winning 17-14 in the second game of the season is getting “spanked” if so today the Vikings got destroyed!

  44. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:02 PM
    Players “Freelancing”? WTH….

    Follow the HC’s instructions, or find yourself on the cut list, or trade block.
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    Maybe that was their plan all along. If I was a player Stuck in the land of the Heidi”s, defying Zimmer’s order might be the only option to separate myself from this dumpster fire of a team. Nothing worse than being handcuffed to a team that will never be relevant

  45. frank booth says:
    Dec 24, 2016 6:52 PM

    leatherface2012 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 6:33 PM
    have to side with the players on this one. cant see zimmer covering anyone to be honest. too old and too slow. who is he to dictate to the players what they should do, when he couldn’t do it himself.? and i’m a life long viking fan.
    ==================================
    Are you saying that coaches can’t coach players unless they are just as skilled as they are? Wouldn’t they be playing rather than coaching then? Does it get lonely in outer space?
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    I think there was a little too much egg nog in “the face” today, Frank

  46. So satisfying to watch the Green Bay Packers dismantle the Vikings and end any hope of being in the playoffs. So it’s typical for Zimmer to criticize players openly after a loss, this is now the third time this has happened this season. Everyone has said why did it take this guy so long to get a head coaching gig? I think now we know…….

  47. To borrow from Matt Damon in True Grit:

    Zimmer couldn’t believe his eyes. Er, EYE.

    SKOLOLOL!

  48. Zimmy The Chimp has had the customary 3 years as ” best coach in the NFL.” Now it’s time for him to join all the other”best coaches in the NFL” on the purple scrap heap so they can bring in yet another “best coach in the NFL.” For 3 years, anyways.

  49. Sounds like the veteran Newman is jealous of the young pro bowler Rhodes, and decided to utilize his “veteran leadership” the wrong way. Not only did it hurt the team, it shows the young guys a bad example. But in the long run, it’s probably a lesson well learned for the youngsters. Newman will probably be on the first bus out of town.

  50. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:28 PM

    I see a lot of smack talking coming from Packer’s fans here…..funny, your team hasn’t made the playoffs either. It will be funny, if they do, watching them get beat like a drum, when they have to go into Dallas.
    Ooooooh the mighty Pack beat a team that has more injuries than an orthopedic unit at the hospital.
    I didn’t hear you say anything after the almighty Pack, when they got spanked in MN.
    Hmmmmmmm
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    The Packers are in right now, as the sixth seed and will be the fourth seed at a minimum if they win next week in Detroit and could possibly end up as high as the second seed. But thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you at the door.

  51. leatherface2012 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 6:33 PM
    have to side with the players on this one. cant see zimmer covering anyone to be honest. too old and too slow. who is he to dictate to the players what they should do, when he couldn’t do it himself.? and i’m a life long viking fan.
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    Lifelong Viking fan? All nine years?

  52. So it took the Vikings coaching staff the whole first half to figure out the DB’s were not executing their game plan….wow

  53. Zimmer literally screamed himself into a blind rage earlier this season. His OC felt his only option was to quit. The players apparently now feel their only option is to quit.

    Do you see where this is going?

  54. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:28 PM

    I see a lot of smack talking coming from Packer’s fans here…..funny, your team hasn’t made the playoffs either
    __________

    I can understand why youre salty starting 5 and 0 and not having a meaningful game the last week of the season must be tough.

    While the Vikings whom cemented at least a first round bye before Columbus day in the eyes of their fans. Bradford for MVP, now all you have is hoping GB doesn’t make the post season yet again and talk smack about Divas and injuries and a “bad coach McCarthy”…on the bright side, the Vikings did beat the Packers at Lambeau for the division last year so at least you can have that moment. So cheer up sport.

  55. Zimmer lost this team weeks ago. The first clue was when the OC quits the team in mid season for no apparent reason. The last example of AP deciding when he will play and when he won’t and announcing it directly to the media before discussing it with the head coach. How can you expect the other players to show any respect for him. Spielman has a mess on his hands.

  56. Packer fans enjoy your cute little run against bad teams the last few weeks. Yes, Rodgers had a great game at the expense of a defense that for whatever reason didn’t follow the game plan. On the other hand, your pathetic defense gave up 500 yds against one of the worst offenses in the league after getting torched by a QB that was almost out of the league before Cutler getting injured. You made walk-on Adam Thielen look like Jerry Rice (no offense to Thielen). You have zero chance to do anything in the playoffs….if you make it.

  57. When you have already lost the entire offense (thielen excluded), it makes it really hard when you lose the defense too. Today Zimmer reminded me a little of Larry Linville’s brilliant Frank Burns portrayal…….

  58. Isn’t that “conduct detrimental to the team”? Suspend them all the last game and take a pay check. I’m always on the players’ side in contracts, holdouts, and most other issues because of the physical toll the game takes on the men who play. Not this time. Hit them in the wallet, sit them, cut either them or the coach, and let the rest of the teams know what they’re getting if they sign these guys.

  59. They could really make a movie about the Vikings season this year. Starting with Teddy injury, ending with this and Zimmer’s resignation. In fact, Norv Turner is probably already putting it together.

  60. Stunning indeed! Too bad they didn’t do what the coach told them to during the first half and then, if that hadn’t worked, ask him at halftime if maybe they could try it their way. So sorry to learn of this trouble! The coach is the coach for a reason! SMH…

  61. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:49 PM
    At halftime, Zimmer ordered the players to go back to the game plan of Rhodes shadowing Nelson, and it worked:
    /////////////////////////////////

    After spotting the iceberg, the captain of the Titanic ordered all deck chairs be tied down so they wouldn’t slide off and be lost.

    It worked.

  62. knew8411 says:
    Dec 24, 2016 7:28 PM

    I see a lot of smack talking coming from Packer’s fans here…..funny, your team hasn’t made the playoffs either
    __________

    I can understand why youre salty starting 5 and 0 and not having a meaningful game the last week of the season must be tough.

    While the Vikings whom cemented at least a first round bye before Columbus day in the eyes of their fans. Bradford for MVP, now all you have is hoping GB doesn’t make the post season yet again and talk smack about Divas and injuries and a “bad coach McCarthy”…on the bright side, the Vikings did beat the Packers at Lambeau for the division last year so at least you can have that moment. So cheer up sport.

    Not at all salty here….no one expected the Vikings to do anything, especially after losing Bridgewater, and 2 starting O linemen….I learned a LONNNNG time ago, to count on the Vikings to blow it. That way, when they do finally do something, I will be surprised.

  63. Hey, but we have a new billion dollar plus stadium, thanks to the politicians ignoring the voters and the state laws. Just like the Twins, new stadium and going to tank before the first season is done. Oh well, we get the Super Bowl next year, but the NFL and the two teams and their owners won’t have to pay any taxes and will get a lot of freebes. The only smart fans are the ones in San Diego, who turned down the NFLs bid for a new stadium at the taxpayers expense.

  64. Not a good weekend for the Vikings. First, the captain of the party boat turned pilot runs off the taxi way, now this. No wonder the Vikings are 0-55….years.

  65. AP gets to call Shots and play how and when he wants, and it must have rubbed off on others. Maybe Brett Favre is the gift that keeps on giving, AP into his young career saw the Vikings bend over backwards to please a HOFer,and I also think it effected Harvin. Now AP has that “I’ll do what I want and the Vikings will let me, attitude and and it seems to have rubbed off on some of the promising young players.

    The offense has struggled, all season long, but it was the defense that let them down yesterday.

  66. lannys9 says:
    Dec 25, 2016 9:00 AM

    Hey, but we have a new billion dollar plus stadium, thanks to the politicians ignoring the voters and the state laws. Just like the Twins, new stadium and going to tank before the first season is done. Oh well, we get the Super Bowl next year, but the NFL and the two teams and their owners won’t have to pay any taxes and will get a lot of freebes. The only smart fans are the ones in San Diego, who turned down the NFLs bid for a new stadium at the taxpayers expense.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Exactly. Has anyone else noticed that as soon as the Rams moved to LA (again), all of a sudden there’s talk of Vegas and even Mexico City? The NFL doesn’t necessarily want to move teams to either place… they just want to use the threat of moving teams there to strong arm the fan bases. Both of those places are much bigger threats than London.

  67. I don’t understand how Vikings fans can take a story written about how their defensive backs decided to ignore their coaches only to have it blow up in their faces and rant about how the Packers are going to get killed in the playoffs. If I was a Vikings fan (Raiders fan, got my own worries after Carr’s injury just ended our hopes for any playoff wins) I would be extremely concerned about how Zimmer is losing control of his team. The Packers seem to be putting it all together as of late, maybe it’s because their players actually stick to the game plan their coaches have installed for them…

  68. knew8411 says:
    Dec 25, 2016 8:43 AM
    I cannot wait to see this packer team go into ATL or Dallas, and get beat like a rented mule!

    ==================================

    If this indeed would happen, then shall we say it is another successful season for the Vikings? You braided ponytail fairies favorite post season team? Well the team that plays the Packers of course!

  69. knew8411 says:
    Dec 25, 2016 8:43 AM
    I cannot wait to see this packer team go into ATL or Dallas, and get beat like a rented mule!

    ////////////

    I can’t wait to see the same happen for the Vikings…oh wait…

  70. This report appears to be damage control of the loss, more than realisticly believable. If this was the case, wouldn’t the coaches on the sidelines see them out of place, pull them out & insist on the correct formation? So not matter who made a coverage decision, ultimately the fault lies with coaches not doing their jobs well enough.

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