If Kubiak goes, what’s next for Denver?

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The cat is out of the bag in Denver regarding the likely resignation of coach Gary Kubiak. If/when Kubiak resigns after only two years on the job, where will the franchise go from here?

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media already has pegged Dolphins defensive coordinator Vance Joseph as the leading candidate for the job, suggesting that the hire could come quickly.

Joseph, then the defensive backs coach in Cincinnati, interviewed for the Denver head-coaching job in 2015, before Kubiak was hired. Joseph has drawn rave reviews for his work in Miami this year.

Other candidates for the job two years ago have since become head coaches elsewhere, including former Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase (Dolphins), former Broncos defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio (Raiders), and former Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn (Falcons). Lions defensive coordinator Teryl Austin declined to interview with the Broncos during the last hiring cycle.

Some have already speculation that John Elway could be interesting in bringing Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to Denver, where his father once coached Elway to a pair of Super Bowl wins. Whether that would occur depends in part on the current status of the relationship between Elway and Mike Shanahan; some say it’s not great.

The Broncos seem to need offensive help, but with defensive coordinator Wade Phillips’ contract expiring, they may have real needs on each side of the ball.

However it plays out, the Super Bowl 50 champions could be in an unexpected state of disarray. Elway has done a great job with the team over the last six years, but as they prepare for the first offseason under Elway that won’t be preceded by a playoff berth, there’s plenty of work to be done.

54 responses to “If Kubiak goes, what’s next for Denver?

  1. I would expect them to return to their normal standing of being a mediocre franchise who is best know for being regularly curb stomped when they’ve made prior, “questionable” runs at the Super Bowl.

  2. They lose Kubiak and I think Phillips will be right behind him – they won’t offer him the job.
    I’m not a big fan of Kubiak – he wasn’t that good in Houston – but if Denver loses both these guys they’re in serious trouble.
    Can anyone remember a championship team that lost both QBs and then their coaching staff like this?

  3. Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. Hire Josh McDaniels. Secure a quality veteran RB and TE……..AFC Championship game …easily.
    Of course Elway will go for a retread head coach and the aged/often injured Tony Romo because he wants to retain much of the power McDaniels would demand.
    Short term solutions…unlike Belichick who wins decade after decade.

  4. “John Elway could be interesting in bringing Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to Denver, where his father once coached Elway to a pair of Super Bowl wins.”

    Or, you know, salary cap cheated Elway to a pair of Super Bowl wins.

  5. Wade probably walks if they don’t promote him and especially if they bring in a young pup.

    Things will get uglier before better.

    The D has already declined… and the offense… went from setting NFL touchdown records… to full and complete disappearance within 2 seasons.

  6. I would be surprised with Vance Joseph but makes sense if they don’t come to terms with Wade. Joseph will need to get experienced OC. Would think McCoy would be at top of that list once cannned by SD. That’s not that bad of a situation to be honest.

  7. Not a broncos fan but some of these comments are nuts. They won’t hire McDaniels…..already tried that and it didn’t work. And enough of this one year dynasty crap. Won 5 straight division titles, went to two Super Bowls and won one. Unfortunately I’m a Jets fan and would have loved that kind of success

  8. I don’t see them going to K Shanahan because Elway would be wedged between Mike and Kyle.

    That wouldn’t be a problem elsewhere but it would be awkward in Denver.

  9. Some “out of the box” ideas: David Shaw, Kirk Ferentz, Sean ZmcDermott, Duce Staley, James Franklin, Paul Chryst, Brian Dawkins, and yes, talk to Manning.

  10. The scenario: Denver hires McDaniels away from NE. NE promotes Kelly to replace him. Belichek retires, Kelly becomes head coach at NE. Brady retires. NE goes 2-14 under Kelly for two years. All NE fans jump off the bandwagon and become fans of the next SB winners.

    My personal prediction.

  11. There does need to be some changes for sure but some of these comments come off as straight up jealousy. Most of you would be happy to have your team even sniff the playoffs much less win ONE super bowl. Dynasty is rare these days….which is why the Patriots are so impressive (coming from a Broncos fan).

    It’ll be an interesting off season for sure.

  12. Elway has shown a strong preference for appointing experienced coaches in the past, e.g. John Fox and Gary Kubiak. He also had great experience in Wade Phillips running a successful Defense.
    Vance Joseph has had just 1 year as a Defensive Coordinator in Miami. He is good but appointing as a Head Coach with full responsibility is a big jump. He could be targeted to be interviewed under the Rooney Rule.

  13. Kubiak’s system works but it’s all predicated on good offensive line play. His scheme isn’t plug and play; it takes the right people to make it work. Andy Reid’s offense is just as plain but is more able to absorb injuries.

  14. All that is happening to Denver can be expected. When they hired Peyton Manning they were in a “win now” mentality. They brought in good talent for the short term. You’re now seeing that the salary cap will control the destiny of this team. But Peyton got what he wanted despite destroying this organization in less than a year.

  15. Why would anyone want to work for Elway?

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    Why not? He gives HCs independence to operate freely. All the hate Elway gets comes from the Northeast, also known as the dark side…

  16. Manning didn’t destroy the organization, Elway did. His lust to have Manning at any cost is what did it.

  17. After Elway “won” his 2 SBs, we found out that the Broncos had been cheating the salary cap by $30M. There was no way they could have kept both Elway and Davis without those secret payments. The League turned a blind eye because it wanted badly for Elway to get a SB win(s). We all remember the cry, “This one’s for John!” The league waited for Elway to retire before penalizing Denver. For the most egregious violations in NFL history; violations that are the only reason Denver won those 2 SBs, they were fined $950K and a 3rd round draft choice.

    In comparison, NE lost a 1st rounder and $500K for having a single camera just a few feet out of position for about 20 minutes. They lost 2 picks, $1M, and Brady for 4 games because they played outside in the cold. Remember, Indy played with deflated footballs during that same game, but received no penalties despite their long history of cheating.

    Last year, Goodell tried to cover up Manning’s PED use and even manipulated the choice of refs for the AFCCG and SB. Those refs, Hochuli and Blakeman, had never allowed the Broncos to lose on their watch. A perfect 15-0. As insurance, the League placed a rabid Broncos’ fan as the replay official for the SB. You can Google the social media posts his wife was making all game. Don’t forget that all replays for the game were made by the booth and not the Blakeman. The game turned on a blown call. Newton made a beautiful pass to Cotchery. Replays all showed a clear, clean catch. Despite that, it was ruled incomplete. On the next play, Newton fumbled. Not the fumble where turtled.

    It doesn’t matter who the coach is in Denver. The NFL isn’t going to bend and break rules, or ignore incredible violations for Simien. However, if Romo goes to Denver, the cheating and special treatment will be back with a vengance!

  18. sleonardi1 says:
    Jan 1, 2017 10:28 AM
    Not a broncos fan but some of these comments are nuts. They won’t hire McDaniels…..already tried that and it didn’t work. And enough of this one year dynasty crap. Won 5 straight division titles, went to two Super Bowls and won one. Unfortunately I’m a Jets fan and would have loved that kind of success

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    You’re right. Actual dynasties win multiple championships in a few years time.

  19. “John Elway could be interesting in bringing Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to Denver, where his father once coached Elway to a pair of Super Bowl wins.”

    Or, you know, salary cap cheated Elway to a pair of Super Bowl wins.

    It didn’t tale long for the Victims in New England to get their first whine on. Sorry losers!

    The Broncos made the Cheaties look bad and they can’t let it go in true whiner fashion.

  20. I guess none of these football reporters realize that Kyle Shanahan and Kubiak run the same system.

    Its a personnel issue this season. The offensive line rank in the bottom 5 in pass protection and has given up multiple 5 plus sack games. Along that we lost C.J. Anderson and our run game.

    Our Defense actually allowed less points per game than the previous season. We were number 1 in pass defense, but it is true we did fall down in run defense to 29th.

    But the pass defense is so good that they were still rank 2 overall.

  21. “The scenario: Denver hires McDaniels away from NE. NE promotes Kelly to replace him. Belichek retires, Kelly becomes head coach at NE. Brady retires. NE goes 2-14 under Kelly for two years. All NE fans jump off the bandwagon and become fans of the next SB winners.”

    There it is, the most stupid thing I’ll read all day.

    Not sure what alternate universe you’re living in but you’re so far out in orbit its just plain sad.

    SMH

  22. One thing for sure is that Elway will not want to hire a HC who is strong-willed, has integrity and comes with a track record of success. After all, in the past he couldn’t get along with Dan Reeves (who he got fired as a player) and John Fox. What Elway wants/needs is another puppet who can lick his boots. For that reason, I think that “Norv” Turner might be his perfect choice as Denver’s next HC.

  23. thommillermd says:
    Jan 1, 2017 9:55 AM
    Gotta be one of the best jobs available. Great winning culture. Proven GM. Terrific fan base. Tons of talent on defense.

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    …….willing to skirt the salary cap rules to acquire and keep talent

  24. thommillermd says:
    Jan 1, 2017 9:55 AM

    Gotta be one of the best jobs available. Great winning culture. Proven GM. Terrific fan base. Tons of talent on defense.
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    Actually, salary cap hell, no QB, totally unrealistic expectations, tough division with KC and Oakland poised to remain at the top, etc.

  25. when you get yourself into a scorching cap hell,
    it becomes a tough sell for a new coach

    the broncos operate like the ravens
    scapegoat others and stroke your ego at the
    ownership level and front office as you sink deeper into cap hell

  26. They won’t hire Phillips. While he’s proven to be a great coordinator , he’s also proven to be a not so great head coach.

  27. ’m not a big fan of Kubiak – he wasn’t that good in Houston – but if Denver loses both these guys they’re in serious trouble.
    Can anyone remember a championship team that lost both QBs and then their coaching staff like this?
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    None. Ironically, one of the few times a QB hasn’t come back is Denver twice-Elway and Manning. Dilfer didn’t return to Baltimore. It is a short list.

    Also is a great job. Great fan base, no threat of relocation. They can pick and choose.

  28. “Vance Joseph has drawn wave reviews with his work in Miami this year”

    From what planet? They are the 30th ranked defense in the NFL.

    Should not an OC or DC have at least some success before touting them for a HC???

  29. Team needs to dump talib. Sure he’s good but he helped cost them that game against Tennessee because he has the shortest fuse in the league. His stupidity almost cost them the Super Bowl last year too.

    If the refs correctly throw a helmet to helmet flag on Von miller in the Super Bowl last year, that game is drastically different.

    Broncos luck simply ran out this year. They shouldn’t have been in the playoffs last year if it weren’t for fluky plays. The funny thing is osweiller got them there, not manning.

  30. ricko1112 says:
    Jan 1, 2017 11:25 AM
    After Elway “won” his 2 SBs, we found out that the Broncos had been cheating the salary cap by $30M. There was no way they could have kept both Elway and Davis without those secret payments. The League turned a blind eye because it wanted badly for Elway to get a SB win(s). We all remember the cry, “This one’s for John!” The league waited for Elway to retire before penalizing Denver. For the most egregious violations in NFL history; violations that are the only reason Denver won those 2 SBs, they were fined $950K and a 3rd round draft choice.

    In comparison, NE lost a 1st rounder and $500K for having a single camera just a few feet out of position for about 20 minutes. They lost 2 picks, $1M, and Brady for 4 games because they played outside in the cold. Remember, Indy played with deflated footballs during that same game, but received no penalties despite their long history of cheating.

    Last year, Goodell tried to cover up Manning’s PED use and even manipulated the choice of refs for the AFCCG and SB. Those refs, Hochuli and Blakeman, had never allowed the Broncos to lose on their watch. A perfect 15-0. As insurance, the League placed a rabid Broncos’ fan as the replay official for the SB. You can Google the social media posts his wife was making all game. Don’t forget that all replays for the game were made by the booth and not the Blakeman. The game turned on a blown call. Newton made a beautiful pass to Cotchery. Replays all showed a clear, clean catch. Despite that, it was ruled incomplete. On the next play, Newton fumbled. Not the fumble where turtled.

    It doesn’t matter who the coach is in Denver. The NFL isn’t going to bend and break rules, or ignore incredible violations for Simien. However, if Romo goes to Denver, the cheating and special treatment will be back with a vengance!

    ———————-

    Dude stop spamming this post on multiple threads. As a Patriots fan I know we benefitted from the most controversial ref call of all time in the playoffs, the tuck rule and we ended up winning the SB.

  31. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jan 1, 2017 3:06 PM
    ricko1112 says:
    Jan 1, 2017 11:25 AM
    After Elway “won” his 2 SBs, we found out that the Broncos had been cheating the salary cap by $30M. There was no way they could have kept both Elway and Davis without those secret payments. The League turned a blind eye because it wanted badly for Elway to get a SB win(s). We all remember the cry, “This one’s for John!” The league waited for Elway to retire before penalizing Denver. For the most egregious violations in NFL history; violations that are the only reason Denver won those 2 SBs, they were fined $950K and a 3rd round draft choice.

    In comparison, NE lost a 1st rounder and $500K for having a single camera just a few feet out of position for about 20 minutes. They lost 2 picks, $1M, and Brady for 4 games because they played outside in the cold. Remember, Indy played with deflated footballs during that same game, but received no penalties despite their long history of cheating.

    Last year, Goodell tried to cover up Manning’s PED use and even manipulated the choice of refs for the AFCCG and SB. Those refs, Hochuli and Blakeman, had never allowed the Broncos to lose on their watch. A perfect 15-0. As insurance, the League placed a rabid Broncos’ fan as the replay official for the SB. You can Google the social media posts his wife was making all game. Don’t forget that all replays for the game were made by the booth and not the Blakeman. The game turned on a blown call. Newton made a beautiful pass to Cotchery. Replays all showed a clear, clean catch. Despite that, it was ruled incomplete. On the next play, Newton fumbled. Not the fumble where turtled.

    It doesn’t matter who the coach is in Denver. The NFL isn’t going to bend and break rules, or ignore incredible violations for Simien. However, if Romo goes to Denver, the cheating and special treatment will be back with a vengance!

    ———————-

    Dude stop spamming this post on multiple threads. As a Patriots fan I know we benefitted from the most controversial ref call of all time in the playoffs, the tuck rule and we ended up winning the SB.

    ————–

    Who exactly do you think you’re fooling?

    Your Jets won today. You can retreat to the fellowship of the miserable for at least a while. Pretend time is over.

  32. doggz109 says:
    Jan 1, 2017 10:47 AM
    There does need to be some changes for sure but some of these comments come off as straight up jealousy. Most of you would be happy to have your team even sniff the playoffs much less win ONE super bowl. Dynasty is rare these days….which is why the Patriots are so impressive (coming from a Broncos fan).

    It’ll be an interesting off season for sure.

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    jealousy? more like straight up disgust that the nfl supports cheating teams like the donkeys and patriots.
    its teams like yours that are RUINING football!!

  33. yourunclerico says:
    Jan 1, 2017 7:09 PM
    doggz109 says:
    Jan 1, 2017 10:47 AM

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    jealousy? more like straight up disgust that the nfl supports cheating teams like the donkeys and patriots.
    its teams like yours that are RUINING football!!.

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    Last time I looked at yourteamcheats.com I believe every team is listed. And hear I thought your team was perfect. Oh wait that was you. So yes my team and NE are in your words RUINING football!! But guess what so is your team and every other team. They all cheat it’s basically human nature in competition and $$$. At least we (Den/NE) fans can admit it and not pretend our teams are squeaky clean classy. I’ll say one thing our SB parades have been great how have your “My Team is Classy and Doesn’t Cheat” parades been? Cause I haven’t heard about them

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