Silence from Irsay speaks volumes

Last year, Colts owner Jim Irsay quickly resolved lingering questions regarding coach Chuck Pagano and G.M. Ryan Grigson. The day after the regular-season ended, Irsay met with Pagano and Grigson and, eventually, announced that both were under contract for four years.

This year, Irsay has said or done nothing to address the status of Pagano and Grigson. At a time when it would be much more expensive to move on (the last time around, Pagano’s contract was expiring and Grigson had one year left), speculation is mounting that Irsay is at least considering his options.

Which quite possibly consists of discreetly calling coaches on his wish list in an effort to find out whether he can get someone who would be regarded as a major upgrade before discarding the flightless birds in the hand. Whether it’s Nick Saban, Jim Harbaugh, Jon Gruden, Sean Payton, or even Peyton Manning, Irsay could indeed be in the process of finding out whether he can knock it out of the park before he officially picks up the bat.

Given the Rooney Rule, that’s not the way searches are supposed to unfold. But it would hardly be the first time that a team fired a coach and a G.M. without knowing who eventually would be filling both jobs.

However it plays out, something has to give. The Colts, with Luck starting 15 games, finished 8-8 and in third place in the downtrodden AFC South. It’s a far cry from what Irsay envisioned post-Peyton.

“You make the playoffs 11 times, and you’re out in the first round seven out of 11 times. You love to have the Star Wars numbers from Peyton and Marvin [Harrison] and Reggie [Wayne]. Mostly, you love [rings].”

Currently, Irsay has neither. And it has to be driving him crazy.

71 responses to “Silence from Irsay speaks volumes

  1. People rip on Irsay all the time but as different as he can be sometimes there is no denying he loves this team and he knows football. Every one on here will leave the “he is boozing” or “popping pills” or “hung over” blah blah blah. The man knows football and wants to win badly. He is not one of those owners like LA has where the only thing he cares about is money. He loves to win this game.

  2. Pagano has had more than enough time to right that ship. I know that Indy fans are quick to point out that Grigson is more too blame for the lack of help / roster configuration, but Chuck has underachieved the last 2 years. Should be dominating that division by now.

  3. The time to remain silent was to focus on actual football game strategy, blocking and tackling, etc., and not go whining breathlessly about how hard a football feels, and go sticking a needle in it, with full knowledge that doing so was against the rules.

  4. Peyton Manning coaching? Peyton Manning coaching?
    Playoffs? Playoffs? Institutionalizing playoff failure? Oh man Mike that could not have been serious.

  5. well he can always hang up a second place banner…….or maybe runner up banner…or we will get them next year banner…..

  6. The Rooney rule is both pathetic and humiliating. It’s right there with affirmative action. If I were black/minority I would be thoroughly insulted. That is all.

  7. I dunno, I think it just means he can’t remember his Twitter password at the moment. We’ll hear from him. Eventually.

  8. .
    Imagine the feeding frenzy that would erupt if Griggy and Pagano hit the free market together. The guaranteed money would be astronomical.
    .

  9. I definitely think that Irsay will, at some point, pitch Manning on becoming Indy’s VP and General Manager, emulating Elway’s role in Denver. Not sure he’ll make the pitch now, but that pitch will be made. Whether P. Manning is interested in that position, who knows. (If so, I’d rather see him with the Titans than Indy.) And it’s worth noting, again: Any and every team that has a franchise QB, and is paying their franchise QB huge money, has to cut talent corners at other position spots on the team. That is the nature of the beast. Indy always had a bargain-basement defense when Manning was there, and what has Indy won with Luck? Not much. Green Bay has had the same issue–they all do. It’s wonderful to have a top QB, but with the cap you will have holes elsewhere on the team.

  10. Even if for some bizarre/drugged out reason Irsay wanted to hire Manning to be his HC do you really think there would be any interest from Peyton in that particular job?

    While all the right things have been said publicly by Manning (as per usual), I gotta think that there is some lingering annoyance with Irsay regarding the events of his release and some of the statements which have been made in the last five years or so.

  11. It’s either Harbaugh, Saban, or Swinney he is waiting on before making any pronouncement. If any of them bite, then both Grigson and Pagano are gone.

  12. With Pagano coming out saying that he has the best QB in the NFL, he’s either saying they need a new offensive coordinator, or he’s saying he doesn’t want to coach any longer. I would bet Irsay and Grigson are looking at coaching candidates right now. There are some good offensive minds available this year, like Kyle Shanahan, Mike McCoy, Sean McVay, etc., and getting the opportunity to coach Andrew Luck would be enticing.

  13. The Colts are a dumpster fire. A potential hall-of-fame QB but no O line, an 800-year-old running back, no defense! Time to clean house.

  14. Actually, the “Star Wars” numbers are still there.

    2014: 29 ppg.
    2015: 27 ppg. (Luck’s final 5 games)
    2016: 27 ppg. (with Luck)

    Peyton averaged just over 25 ppg. from 2008-10.

  15. “Given the Rooney Rule, that’s not the way searches are supposed to unfold. But it would hardly be the first time that a team fired a coach and a G.M. without knowing who eventually would be filling both jobs.”

    The Colts have cheated in so many ways under Irsay the last 15 years i’ve lost count. As one of Roger’s little darlings he’s immune.

    Rooney Rule? So what? Irsay doesn’t care about any stinking Rooney Rule.

  16. swhughes81 says:
    Jan 3, 2017 6:13 PM
    People rip on Irsay all the time but as different as he can be sometimes there is no denying he loves this team and he knows football.
    ______________________

    He didn’t love it enough to overcome his warm fuzzies after his meeting with Pagano at the end of last season or know football well enough to recognize Grigson is a buffoon. Have to grant you he does obviously want to win though.

  17. For those decrying the Rooney Rule: How does requiring a team to interview a minority candidate effect your life? Why do you feel so threatened by this? What possible difference does it make to you?

  18. carloswlassiter says:
    Jan 3, 2017 6:09 PM

    It’s a crime what Grigson and Pagano have done with this team
    ————————————————
    True, especially Grigson. I’ve always had my doubts about him from day 1. Mainly because of his ties to the catastrophy that was the Philly “Dream Team” signings.
    Which begs the question: does Irsay regret letting Polian go?
    There could have been the future HOF GM Polian calling the shots today instead of the flash in the pan GM of the year 2012 Grigson.

    Oh well, hind sites 20/20.

  19. Both need to be fired!!!!! losers thru and thru!!! overmatched d-coordinator, worthless ex-player as gm. drafting phillip dorsett in the first round over any offensive lineman needed to protect your franchise qb should have been enough for his walking papers, don’t even get me started on the trent richardson trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Irsay met with Pagano and Grigson and, eventually, announced that both were under contract for four years.

    This year, Irsay has said or done nothing to address the status of Pagano and Grigson.
    ——-

    They are under contract for 3 more years

    glad I could help

  21. Why should he have to say anything? 8-8 isn’t good but it isn’t bad either. He has both guys inked for years to come. Should he be like Homer Simpson’s “everything’s ok” alarm?

  22. Since Grigson and Pagano are under contract through the end of the decade and so will be paid, the question is is Irsay willing to pay his own dollars (or raise ticket prices) and replace people not under the salary cap

  23. At least Irsay isn’t a complete scumbag like Robert Kraft. You didn’t see irsay with a 22 year old a day after his wife died like that lowlife Kraft.

  24. Why does he have to say anything? It is speculation from the media and fans. That he will let them go.

    Does your job tell you that they are not going to fire you?

    Maybe it’s just business as usual at the Colts complex.

    Maybe they got a review like others do at this time of year. And were told where they need to improve.

  25. thermanmerman99 says:
    Jan 3, 2017 8:16 PM
    At least Irsay isn’t a complete scumbag like Robert Kraft. You didn’t see irsay with a 22 year old a day after his wife died like that lowlife Kraft.
    ————
    Not that it’s not still a bit creepy … but you didn’t see Kraft either. He started dating his 30-something GF almost a year after his wife passed away. But you knew that.

  26. The Colts team that earned the right to draft Luck, may have loss to the 0-16 Lions. They didn’t have much for bright spots. Just, because you can hit on a 1st overall pick doesn’t mean you don’t have to put talent around them. Sure T.Y. is very good but often injured, the oline isn’t very good the defense… is on par with what has been the Colts defense since before Luck got there.

    More so now than ever, you need to put talent around those young QBs especially when being allowed the luxury of the Rookie Pay Scale. A great run game does wonders, and while I give the Colts credit for bringing in Gore, and Andrew Johnson, as they have tried. but doesn’t always panout. The Ravens went out and got Anquan, and Steve Smith, even being older those guys do WONDERS for helping a guy like Flacco come a long.

    Maybe I am am speaking out of school as I don’t get to watch every Colts game, but it seems like the talent is often injured which completely happens or doesn’t hit their potential, but sometimes injuries cause players to be late bloomers as well.

  27. Maybe Irsay can get up on the podium with Roger Goodsmell when he hands Brady and Belichik the Lombardi this Feb. That’s as close as he’ll get to another one with Pagano and Grigson running the show!

  28. Isay loves his qb but maybe not so much his head coach. However he does love Tom Brady, the greatest nfl player of all time. End of line.

  29. Is Irsay now popping some form of drugs that causes the throat muscles to swell so he cannot speak? Send some of those to Trent Dilfer, please, Jimmy boy. New banner in Lucas Oil Stadium: Owner Off Drugs 0 days?

  30. The Rooney Rule is a joke. The fact that its named after the white guy who brought it up rather than the black guy who got hired is proof positive its just Liberals trying to sate their own insatiable white guilt.

    OF COURSE there are qualified black candidates, amazing they don’t include hispanic, asian, indian, middle eastern, or native americans in that. Not only that, black coaches get paid less. The whole thing is a liberal smoke screen.

  31. thermanmerman99 says:
    Jan 3, 2017 8:16 PM
    At least Irsay isn’t a complete scumbag like Robert Kraft. You didn’t see irsay with a 22 year old a day after his wife died like that lowlife Kraft.

    what does this have to do with Irsay and the bad state of affairs with the Colts? nothing and it brings nothing to the table

  32. “You make the playoffs 11 times, and you’re out in the first round seven out of 11 times
    ———–
    LOL! The OWNER trolling his own team and fans. What a dufus franchise. There are worse NFL franchise but none quite as goofy as the Indianapolis Colts.

  33. thermanmerman99 says:
    Jan 3, 2017 8:16 PM
    At least Irsay isn’t a complete scumbag like Robert Kraft. You didn’t see irsay with a 22 year old a day after his wife died like that lowlife

    ___________

    I agree Kraft’s ‘girlfriend’ now is kinda creepy given the huge age difference, but they’re both adults, and you’re lying about her age and the timing.

    How many dead girls have they found in one of Kraft’s apartments, though?

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