Interest in Wolf could force Green Bay’s hand at G.M.

AP

Before Seahawks G.M. John Schneider signed his latest extension in Seattle, he had a clause that allowed him to leave for the team that plays in his home state of Wisconsin. At the time, it was believed that Schneider or Eliot Wolf would become the successor to Packers G.M. Ted Thompson.

With Schneider reportedly dropping the Green Bay clause from his most recent contract, Wolf now resides solely in the on-deck circle. And with the 49ers interviewing Wolf to join Schneider in the NFC West, things could be coming to a head in the land of cheese.

Amid chatter that either Thompson or coach Mike McCarthy won’t be back in 2017, the Santa Clara courtship of Eliot Wolf sets the stage for Thompson to step aside, voluntarily or otherwise. Friction has persisted between Thompson and McCarthy over the General Manager’s reluctance to pursue free agents, and another home loss to the Giants in the postseason could cause the relationship to reach the boiling point.

Even if the Packers win on Sunday (and even if they keep winning), the time possibly has come for Thompson to pass the baton. If Thompson isn’t truly ready to go, the irony will be obvious to people like Brett Favre, who according to Jeff Pearlman’s biography grew to despise Thompson over the team’s effort to nudge Favre into retirement so that Aaron Rodgers could be elevated to starter.

Whether Thompson is or isn’t ready to leave, the possibility that Wolf could be leaving could be enough to trigger a changing of the Green Bay guard. And if Eliot Wolf performs like his father, Ron, the Packers could be in great shape for many years to come.

27 responses to “Interest in Wolf could force Green Bay’s hand at G.M.

  1. All this based on the assumption the son is as good at the job as his father. You know what happens when you assume?
    And only 1000+ examples to suggest juniors not always as capable as pops.

  2. Obviously San Francisco is a nicer place to live than Green Bay, if you have enough money, as any NFL GM will. Santa Clara, I don’t know, but SF, yes. Apart from that one fact, were I Wolf, even if Thompson is going to stick around a couple more years, I think I would just wait my turn to ascend the throne. One position has no bossy, meddlesome, petulant Boy Owner constantly looking over your shoulder and blowing up your hard work. The other has Jed York. The out-of-office setting is better out West, fine, but everything else about the job, inside the building where you’ll actually spend 80% or whatever of your waking hours, will be much more conducive to success and happiness in GB.

  3. Nothing will ever change in GB because there is no Owner to push Ted out.
    1 SB for Favre
    1 SB for Rodgers
    Many hated Favre for threatening to retire every year at the end of his career not realizing he was exercising his only leverage to try and get Ted to sign some free agents to push them over the edge to the SB in his final years.
    Now Rodgers is being wasted in the same way.

    Whether Wolf is the answer or not we will never know. Ted will leave when he wants to and not before and GB fans should expect the same on-field result. Good enough for playoffs, but missing a few key pieces to push them over the top.

  4. Whichever guy will send Mike McCarthy packing is the one I’d like to see running the Packers organization.

    .. but I don’t see why a move has to be made at the top?!

    If The Young Wolf is viewed as the Packers future, and that is the job he wants, then why would he leave?

  5. Thompson has kept this little Mid-Western city winning many more games than are lost; a great accomplishment considering years ago league players were threatened that they would be traded to Green Bay when management wasn’t pleased with them.

    IMO, Thompson has demonstrated his worth beyond a doubt, especially when you look around the NFL and see teams like Cleveland, Jacksonville, San Diego, etc who have struggled year after year just hoping to have a winning season.

    In the end, I realize the Packers’ CEO and other decision makers are far smarter in these matters than I and I trust that they will evaluate Thompson’s personal desires and the potential skill levels of Ball or Wolf and make sound decision on the course of action.

    I’m just a fan, but it is fun to throw in a couple of cents even though my opinions may be worth less.

  6. “If Thompson isn’t truly ready to go, the irony will be obvious to people like Brett Favre, who according to Jeff Pearlman’s biography grew to despise Thompson over the team’s effort to nudge Favre into retirement”
    ===

    Favre credited Thompson as a key to rebuilding his severed relationship with the Packers.

    The divorce was VERY ugly, which was basically ineveitable. But I think you media-heads read Favre-Thompson completely wrong.

  7. urfinished says:
    Jan 5, 2017 9:54 AM

    All this based on the assumption the son is as good at the job as his father. You know what happens when you assume?
    And only 1000+ examples to suggest juniors not always as capable as pops.
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    Eliot Wolf pretty much grew up inside the Packers’ “war room,” under the tutelage of two of the best there’s ever been.

    Ron Wolf was able to take a few big swings at FA early on because the Packer organization figured out the cap before nearly anyone else did. He simply would not be able to do that today, nor would I want him to.

    Ted Thompson only delves into FA for almost guaranteed returns (Woodson, Peppers, and even Guion). I would like him to loosen up the purse strings a little bit more sometimes, but ONLY at the right times.

    My hope is that Eliot Wolf will be able to draw on his lifetime of experience with these two HOF GMs and find a style all his own that becomes a happy (very happy) medium.

  8. Possum: There may be no defacto owner, but the packers GM has to deal,with an unrealistic fanbase. A fanbase that was calling for the coaches, gms, and presidents heads 6 week ago.its not a birthright to be in the playoffs. Howcquickly 1972-1993 is forgotten. Dont worry tough times ahead once Rodgers retires. You arent going to have 3 hof qbs in a row.

  9. If Thompson isn’t truly ready to go, the irony will be obvious to people like Brett Favre, who according to Jeff Pearlman’s biography grew to despise Thompson over the team’s effort to nudge Favre into retirement so that Aaron Rodgers could be elevated to starter.

    Brett Farve was retired by the GM because he kept playing the will he/won’t he return game with the Packers. When they asked for his final decision he flip flopped like a politician and it was made for him because a team has to plan for the next season as early as possible to head into the draft.

    Lifelong Packer fan but the Brett end of career game for three seasons was too long…..bye, bye, baby…..Good job on the dick pic Brett…..

  10. One problem I have with packer fans is the constant chatter about getting rid capers. The man has had the biggest jokes of players when it comes to linebackers and cornerbacks yet somehow has put a d on the field.

    Grow up packer fan the defensive personnel on this team is a joke and has been for years that falls on your gm and scouts.

    If I were capers I would give thompson the finger and leave to a place which appreciates great coaching.

  11. Though I admit that I hate the Packers, I don’t think it matters if Wolf stays or goes, or if Thompson stays or goes.

    I don’t think Thompson is that great of a GM.

    The only thing that has kept GB in contention is Aaron Rodgers. If the Packers didn’t hit the draft lottery on Rodgers, this Packers team is a dumpster fire.

    When you get 2 back to back hall of fame QB’s, you dont need to be a genious GM. However, only two super bowls over 2 decades isnt a great track record in my opinion.

  12. If the guy’s good, who cares who his dad was? The $64 question is whether he’s good enough. Regardless, if TT is even close to retiring, why in hell would anyone want to work for the dysfunctional organization York has created? Say what you want about the Pack, but the organization is stable and they’ve got an MVP QB — San Fran doesn’t.

  13. billtetley53 says:
    Jan 5, 2017 10:43 AM
    Possum: There may be no defacto owner, but the packers GM has to deal,with an unrealistic fanbase. A fanbase that was calling for the coaches, gms, and presidents heads 6 week ago.its not a birthright to be in the playoffs. Howcquickly 1972-1993 is forgotten. Dont worry tough times ahead once Rodgers retires. You arent going to have 3 hof qbs in a row.
    ————————

    I was told the Packers wouldn’t have two HOF QBs in a row.

    “Unrealistic fanbase” would seem to define every team in the league to some extent, but especially those in MN who each summer proclaim their purple clad squad to be the most talented in the league yet each winter wonder how they will get rid of the crappy players and replace the GM and find a coach who can win.

    And it was 1972-1991 when the franchise was run by a bureaucracy of local yokels rather than by football people. Bob Harlan changed the structure of the franchise, put Ron Wolf in charge and developed a system to consistently win games.

  14. cardinealsfan20 says:
    Jan 5, 2017 9:57 AM
    There is absolutely no friction between TT and Mm. None. No creditable report of any friction. None.

    The only “iction” existing here is fiction.

    Actually – I live in GB, there’s some friction. McCarthy has talked about not having weapons in the middle of the field last year, not having a rb etc – those were subtle shots at Ted.

    There’s friction there.

    As to firing Capers – he should be. At one point they had 6 first round draft picks on defense.

    Jones, Perry, Dix, Peppers, Raji, Mathews

    Clark, Perry, Dix, Peppers, Jones, Mathews now

    6/11 guys on defense are first rounders. Defense needs to play better. It’s the COACHES job to put them in a position to be successful and to teach them the game. Not happening obviously.

    Several other draft picks spent on defense in the last 6 years beyond round 1.

    It’s statistically impossible to whiff on that many defensive selections. It’s a coaching issue.

    Packers DB’s are better man players – Dom puts them in zone the whole game etc. things like that.

  15. urfinished says:
    Jan 5, 2017 9:54 AM
    All this based on the assumption the son is as good at the job as his father. You know what happens when you assume?
    And only 1000+ examples to suggest juniors not always as capable as pops.

    \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

    Elliot grew up watching his dad become a GM. When he was in college, he worked with Miami’s recruiting staff. After that, he officially joined the Packers staff and worked his way up. Worst case, he makes a call to Ron for advice. Plus, the rumor is that Ted will step down to scouting, so they would still keep both Ted and Elliot.

  16. Murph: Im willing to bet you that GB does not have a 3rd hof qb in a row.

    Every system will falter. As said before, a franchis qb covers a lot of faults. What did GB not have after starr and up until Favre?
    What has coincided with NE dominance?

    Its not that GB system is any better, its that they have had hof qb play for the better part of 2 decades.
    Ps what is your fixation with the vikings? I never soke of them. If they stink so bad, why do theyveven matter to you? Its an odd fixation.

  17. Elliott Wolf has been w/the Packers for about 12 years. Just b/c his dad did a great job doesn’t mean he will. But as good as TT has been though TT hasn’t had the best draft picks the last few years he’s one of the best. EW deserves a chance. Packers should’ve been to at least 1 SB since 2010-11 season. Schneider went to Seattle & won a SB. If EW isn’t promoted this year he will likely leave imo. TT as scout supervisor & EW for GM. GO PACK GO

  18. If not Elliot – who do you replace Thompson with, be it this off season or in 3 (whenever?)

    Reggie, Schneider, and the others aren’t leaving what they built to come back.

    So whom do you tab for the next GM?

  19. 4gone says:
    Jan 5, 2017 10:28 AM

    Many hated Favre for threatening to retire every year at the end of his career not realizing he was exercising his only leverage to try and get Ted to sign some free agents to push them over the edge to the SB in his final years.
    Now Rodgers is being wasted in the same way.
    ____________________

    It’s the coaching staff and players jobs, in January to earn the title, When he did have a team good enough to win the SB with Favre, it was Favre whom threw that horrendous INT vs the Giants in the NFC Title game.

    That had nothing to do with the FAs. Besides just because you don’t go out and get other teas FAs doesn’t mean you’re doing something wrong. Signing players like Daniels, and Rodgers to make sure they don’t leave is more important than bringing in others, and the ones TT has brought it do seem to do well,, like Guion, Peppers, and Cook when healthy.

  20. Thats why Favre and Rodgers have only 1 title each. That type of thinking is idiotic. It precludes you having to hit on nearly all of your draft picks.(TT not even close to half). It hamstrings your staff when injuries occur. The boardvwoukd rather count their money than improve the team.

  21. I think the idiots who point to the Packers only having two Super Bowl victories since Favre became QB as proof of having bad GMs are just idiots.

    The reality is that really only the Patriots have been significantly more successful. Some might quibble saying the Steelers as well have done better. First of, for what it’s worth – those are the two teams Green Bay beat in the Super Bowl.

    I’d much rather have a GM that puts out a Packer team that is in the mix for making it into the Super Bowl nine times out of ten instead of a team that shoots for the moon has one super great season and then has to spend an infinity of mediocrity dealing with aging veterans who clog up player development and ruin the salary cap. 

  22. I think anyone is wrong at GB looking to make any changes soon.
    They seem to be comfortable with the way things are with a head coach who has a good season only to blow it in the playoffs working with the same D-coordinator who both work under the same GM.

    I really don’t know why they are dragging their feet to make any changes to return the Packers back to winning the big games as it is in their legacy.

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