Video could disqualify Joe Mixon

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The NFL, its teams, the media, and the public shouldn’t need to see what domestic violence looks like in order to be appalled by it. But as the NFL, its teams, the media, and the public learned in September 2014, knowing that something happened and seeing it happen are two very different things.

Some believe Ravens running back Ray Rice never got a second chance in the NFL because he simply wasn’t very good when he last played. Given the tailbacks who have gotten tryouts and roster spots in the past two offseason (when up to 90 jobs per team are available), the more likely explanation is that no one wanted to suffer through the scrutiny that would result from offering employment to a man who was seen knocking a woman out on video.

Former Oklahoma running back Joe Mixon delivered a devastating blow to a female in late 2014, breaking multiple bones in her face. Knowing it occurred it troubling; seeing it becomes mortifying.

If/when an NFL team provides employment to Mixon, that video will be played repeatedly in the team’s local market. The media will revisit the issue, chastising the team for giving safe harbor to a man who engaged in an undeniably despicable act. And while some will claim Mixon deserves a second chance, others will point out that playing in the NFL is a privilege not a right, and that Mixon necessarily would be taking a job that could go to a player who hasn’t committed such a heinous act.

The video remains the difference. With Chiefs running back/receiver/kick returner Tyreek Hill, it’s known that he pleaded guilty to assaulting his pregnant girlfriend. But because there’s no video of the crime, Hill wasn’t disqualified from NFL employment. With Mixon, the video potentially blocks him from playing pro football.

Ultimately, it takes only one team to take a flier on Mixon with a low-round pick and a stern admonition that one false move will result in the termination of his employment. And if one team with needs at the tailback position concludes that Mixon could be a difference maker and believes that enough equity has been compiled locally to withstand the P.R. storm that would result from drafting him, Mixon will at least get a chance to prove himself in the NFL.

The video complicate the analysis, and it ultimately could cause every team to steer clear of Mixon — especially if the NFL subtly (or otherwise) gets the word out to its 32 teams that Mixon should be avoided.

Of course, that would be collusion. It also wouldn’t be the first time collusion has occurred. Indeed, some believe that Rice never got a second chance because the NFL made it clear that he wouldn’t be getting one.

55 responses to “Video could disqualify Joe Mixon

  1. I don’t want to see Mixon in the league on principle. However, it may be the only way that he will have the resources to pay whatever damages the victim deserves. A contract that requires a certain level of payments to her?

    I know. Impractical/unlikely/a numbe of other terms. .

  2. I don’t think Mixon gets drafted but I do think he gets signed with a larger than average bonus as an UDFA by a team like the Bengals or Cowboys who are noted for giving guys second chances (if they can play). Then if the blow back from the locals gets too hot, they cut the guy without wasting a pick.

  3. They both acted like fools in this video, and I am not a fan of the one mistake and your NFL career is over, before it was started. Shouldn’t this kid be allowed to start it, of course all that comes with built in safety (Browns Manziel)

    Donte Stallworth was allowed to continue his career after paying for consequences of his poor choices, or does that not matter as much “Due to lack of a video”

  4. I’m fine with the guy. If you don’t want to get hit, don’t hit. She threw first. Should he have walked away? Yep, but welcome to equality ladies, your free ride is over. I’d draft this guy in the 4th round and tell him he has a clean slate.

  5. @hanspard

    She shoved him. He shattered her jaw. I don’t care how much you believe in equality, an appropriate response to being shoved is not breaking someone’s jaw.

  6. hanspard says:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:29 PM
    I’m fine with the guy. If you don’t want to get hit, don’t hit. She threw first. Should he have walked away? Yep, but welcome to equality ladies, your free ride is over. I’d draft this guy in the 4th round and tell him he has a clean slate.

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    So, have you stopped beating your wife?

  7. The fact that this guy even played at Oklahoma instead of being in jail is a crime. NFL? After ray rice? I don’t care if she did take a slap at him, inexcusable.

  8. Much as I’m opposed to double-standards and so on, I’m surprised close to half of respondents think a high-level athlete punching a woman as hard as he can in response to a little slap from her is near an equitable retaliation. The potential damage between the two couldn’t vary much more.

  9. Hill should have been disqualified.

    What’s different about Rice and Mixon was one knocked out his fiancé while the other knocked down a racist woman.

  10. bobulated says:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:10 PM

    I don’t think Mixon gets drafted but I do think he gets signed with a larger than average bonus as an UDFA by a team like the Bengals or Cowboys who are noted for giving guys second chances (if they can play). Then if the blow back from the locals gets too hot, they cut the guy without wasting a pick.
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    There are considerably more than two teams that will give a guy a second chance (if he can play). That basically describes EVERY team in the league.

  11. Mixon hit a woman, let’s establish that is something you should NEVER do. We are the physically stronger gender.
    But, she pushed him and when Mixon commented, “She spat on me and called me a racial slur.” Her response was, “I never called him a racial slur.” Let’s get the entire story out each time we tell it, because a lot of folks on here are not, you know, intellectually curious. They read a headline, they comment. But, let’s not forget, this young lady bears some responsibility, too.

  12. A better question is why isn’t he in jail?. I believe law and order should be left to the police and the court system. Let the NFL be about football.

  13. The pious sanctimony of the Tyreek Hill haters is hypocritical blather at its worst. Everybody in law enforcement and the judicial system who were at all tangentially involved in his case signed off on his getting a second chance to play at the college level; the victim was also for it.

    Yeah, we get it that men should never hit women, regardless of the circumstances…and that what Hill did was abominable But he has used his second chance very well. Give the Chiefs credit for providing a locker room full of adults whose presence mitigates against backsliding and for providing whatever counseling he may be receiving to help him out grow violent tendencies.

    Finally, as some one once said, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”.

  14. Everyone does realize that he was 18 years old when this happened and you should never hit a women, but give the kid a chance to change.

    Imagine if we applied this type of thing to the rest of the US, you make a mistake and never get a second change to prove that you changed. As the Donald Said “Your Fired”.

    At the end of the day, he was a kid when this happened and how does it affect your life if this guy gets a chance to play in the NFL?

  15. Any image of a guy punching a girl, is absolutely disturbing and is honestly enough to turn my stomach… …but why do some women seem to think they get a free pass, for taking a swipe at a guy?

    Yes, a guy (especially an athlete who is likely to be several times stronger than the girl) should be ‘man enough’ to show the utmost restraint in such a situation – but I have absolutely no sympathy for any woman, who feels she has the right to put her hands on another person and not expect retaliation.

    Don’t start a physical altercation that you’re not prepared to finish – this goes for EVERYBODY!

  16. hanspard says:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:29 PM
    I’m fine with the guy. If you don’t want to get hit, don’t hit. She threw first. Should he have walked away? Yep, but welcome to equality ladies, your free ride is over. I’d draft this guy in the 4th round and tell him he has a clean slate.
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    So bc the gf did something wrong it is right to do something wrong to her?

    Equality means breaking face bones bc you got smacked? Sounds unequal.

    PFT, please don’t ban my comment for calling handspard a submental dumb @ s s.

  17. hanspard says:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:29 PM
    I’m fine with the guy. If you don’t want to get hit, don’t hit. She threw first. Should he have walked away? Yep, but welcome to equality ladies, your free ride is over. I’d draft this guy in the 4th round and tell him he has a clean slate.
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    I hate this argument for so many reasons. Aside from the fact that is screams “I am so happy a woman gave me the opportunity to smash her face…”. There is a difference between a Dic 1 football player and your average woman. So if the threshold for being allowed to punch a woman is “she swung first”, does that then mean you are allowed to punch a 5 year old who swung first? Where do we draw the line? a normal person wouldn’t want to punch a female for any reason. Then there are the ones that get excited about the idea that they now have justification to do it

  18. @hanspard

    What a clown you are and my guess is that you have knocked a few women around. LOSER

  19. She shoved him, and he way over reacted by punching her in the face. Had he shoved her back, that would be one thing, but he came over, and instigated the whole thing.

    Given how he acted, would you as an employer want this guy working for you? As for the NFL, and a team, do you want this video shown on the local news? In addition I would hope Goodell would give him a year suspension if he was drafted.

    >>hanspard says:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:29 PM
    I’m fine with the guy. If you don’t want to get hit, don’t hit. She threw first. Should he have walked away? Yep, but welcome to equality ladies, your free ride is over. I’d draft this guy in the 4th round and tell him he has a clean slate.

  20. 1. He is the one who came up to them. He instigated the fight.

    2. She shoved him, she didn’t hit him. He way over reacted by punching her in the face.

    shaggytoodle says:
    Jan 5, 2017 11:13 PM
    They both acted like fools in this video, and I am not a fan of the one mistake and your NFL career is over, before it was started. Shouldn’t this kid be allowed to start it, of course all that comes with built in safety (Browns Manziel)

    Donte Stallworth was allowed to continue his career after paying for consequences of his poor choices, or does that not matter as much “Due to lack of a video”

  21. There will be teams that will not have Mixon on their boards.
    There will be teams that have Mixon on their draft board.

  22. The video has no sound. Just looking at the video a couple times it appears to me that the victim was looking for trouble. My daddy always said, “people looking for trouble aint near as tough as those waiting for it”. She slapped him and pushed him back hard enough that he almost fell down. His natural reaction was to defend himself. He didn’t shoot her. He didn’t kick her. He just quickly released a short right hook to protect himself and diffuse the situation. The U.S. Constitution gives every citizen the right to defend themselves. Let the courts sort out the punishment and the liabilities. But the act should “not” disqualify him for the NFL. We had two players playing in the NFL that were convicted of manslaughter/homicide. Ray Rice was not pushed or slapped by his wife. I bet the female victim in this case will now keep her hands to herself in similar situations for the rest of her life.

  23. First of all, this assumes that this person identifies as female and that’s not something you are allowed to assume today. Second, it assumes that women are weak, helpless wallflowers who need to be protected form the big, strong men in their lives. Welcome to Obama’s America!

  24. Second chance? You realize that an average person whom does something like this goes to jail, and then has a criminal record that will prevent him from being hired anywhere that pays more than minimum wage, right?

  25. I’d rather having him paying a boat load in income taxes from an NFL contract then him living of the citizens of the U.S. tax dollars because somebody without a degree and his now famous background isn’t going to the top of pile of job applicants.

  26. I just watched the video and it is CLEAR that Mixon was the aggressor. He entered her space with a CLEAR Threatening posture. She responded CORRECTLY as any woman has a right to against a physically threatening man.

    There was nothing that girl did to him which gave him any justification to deliver a Full Force closed fist punch to her head/face = COWARD.

    He should be banned from the NFL at least for a full year and to even be considered for acceptance, he should spend his year off attending counseling ( Anger Management ) and assisting Battered Women’s Shelters.

    No way Goodel can accept this guy and make the claim of protecting NFL INTEGRITY.

    If he does he will be stating that it is OK to punch a woman but don’t you dare challenge the NFL on Air Pressure in a football that is controlled by the WEATHER/SCIENCE/IGL

  27. Please stop comparing Dante Stallworth in these situations. He acted like a man, stayed and behaved properly in a very bad situation. And some need to be reminded that the victim walked out between parked cars. Not blaming the dead guy, but there has always been more to this than people seem to remember.

  28. 18 year old makes a bad decision that killed nobody… and many of the people here would write him off for life! I’d draft him to my team, make sure the team has safety net in contract. Now IF he screws up and gets cut, its likely no team would take a shot after that.

  29. intrafinesse says:
    Jan 6, 2017 8:17 AM
    1. He is the one who came up to them. He instigated the fight.

    2. She shoved him, she didn’t hit him. He way over reacted by punching her in the face.
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    Since when did walking up to someone in a public place = instigating a fight?

  30. Mixon should be allowed into the NFL = Only after he completes a full year of counseling (anger management) and community service to women battered shelters or something equivalent.

    Best way he can prove to everyone that he is ready to be on a NFL Team and a True Role Model to youth.

  31. shaggytoodle says:
    Jan 6, 2017 11:21 AM

    Since when did walking up to someone in a public place = instigating a fight?

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    Look at the entire video. The woman was with her group and Mixon walked up to their table. He initiated the altercation.

  32. It wasn’t domestic violence, it was a felony battery that was plead down to a misdemeanor. As a lawyer I would think Florio would know the difference. With that said he’s still a punk for punching a female like that.

  33. cuda1234 says:
    Jan 6, 2017 9:52 AM
    First of all, this assumes that this person identifies as female and that’s not something you are allowed to assume today. Second, it assumes that women are weak, helpless wallflowers who need to be protected form the big, strong men in their lives. Welcome to Obama’s America!
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    Couldn’t possibly be a dumber human being on the planet.

  34. The comments against Joe Mixon are laughable.

    # 1 rule of life, don’t let your mouth write a check your @$$ can’t cash.

    The aggressor in the video had that incident hadn’t learned that lesson up until that point.

    When you are assaulted by another human being, you are within your rights to defend yourself. Doesn’t matter if your assailant has XY or XX chromosomes.

  35. @jayhawk6

    Having never been convicted of strangling a woman who was carrying my child, unlike Tyreek Hill, I will throw as many stones as I like.

    And as the father of two daughters I have no problem with Mixon being black balled from the league. And that turd Hill should be given the boot as well. NFL football is played by men. Mixon and Hill are little boys.

    Unless a woman comes at you with a deadly weapon there is no excuse, in my mind, to justify hitting her. Men don’t hit women but cowards do.

  36. Look at the entire video. The woman was with her group and Mixon walked up to their table. He initiated the altercation
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    Maybe he was asking what to order? Or maybe someone else said something to him outside before entering, and didn’t hear them clearly. So he went up and asked… I honestly don’t believe he went over there to start a start a fight.

    Stallworth was legally drunk, so he wasn’t totally innocent, and I believe that ifit were someone who didn’t have an NFL paycheck it’s likely they would have came down firmer on him.

  37. first of all this isn’t domestic violence, and in today’s society of equality the gender shouldn’t be a factor on our analysis.

    people need to learn to keep their hands to themselves. As a potential future pro athlete i don’t blame mixon for not taking chances with someone trying to attack your face.

    You can’t go around assaulting people with impunity and then get upset when someone bigger retaliates

  38. Our Nation has really lost it with some f these comments defending Mixon.

    People lacking CLEAR Ethical boundaries and morals think it is OK for a man to full force sucker punch a woman.

    Video clearly shows Mixon as the aggressor. He got into her safe space, which is a direct threat, wanting her to react so he could justify the hate and low life sucker punch.

    No wonder there is so much violence in major cities like Chicago and elsewhere.

    The inner city youth are as wild beasts waiting to pounce on weaker bodies.

  39. While I agree that some of these comments are just to get a rise out of people, and what Mixon did was wrong, I also believe what they lady did was wrong as well .

    Both of them are at least 40% at fault, where you put the needle on the other 20% is up to you, 60/40 50/50 I wouldn’t argue on that.

    I will however disagree that, that this kid doesn’t deserve a chance to proceed with life, because a camera caught what I hope is the worst thing this kid has ever done.

    Eventually everyone needs to move forward.

  40. Anyone who attempt to equate Mixon’s closed fist sucker punch to a woman who slapped him is at best lacking judgment, ethics and morals.

    A football player inflicted on defenseless woman with a FULL FORCE closed fist sucker punch to the side of her head resulting giving her a broken jaw, fractured cheek bone and fractured eye socket.

    YEAH that is about equal to her pushing him and giving him a slap that he, no doubt deserved which can be seen in the video.

    You must be a complete idiot to come to a conclusion that they were equally at fault.

  41. Attempting to equate Mixon’s closed fist sucker punch to a woman is at best lacking judgment, ethics and morals.

    A college football player inflicted, on a defenseless woman, a crushing FULL FORCE – closed fisted – sucker punch to the side of her head resulting in giving her a broken jaw, fractured cheek bone and fractured eye socket.

    YEAH that is about equal to her pushing him and giving him a slap that he, no doubt deserved which can be seen in the video.

    You are completely lacking sound ethics in it’s most basic form to come to a conclusion that they were equally at fault.

  42. don’t see how this has anything to do with football skill; brutal person; poor character, yes, but can he run good and jump and stuff?

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