Report: Browns have real interest in trading for Jimmy Garoppolo

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Patriots backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo has said this week that he’s giving no thought to where he might play next year. But perhaps he should start thinking about Cleveland.

Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that the Browns will try to trade for Garoppolo.

The Browns own the first overall pick in the draft and still could fall in love with a quarterback and take him first overall. But if they haven’t already fallen in love with North Carolina’s Mitch Trubisky or Clemson’s Deshaun Watson, there’s only so much those quarterbacks can do at the Combine and in private meetings to change the Browns’ mind.

What would it take to pry Garoppolo away from the Patriots? The first overall pick is likely more than Cleveland would spend. But the No. 12 overall pick, which Cleveland acquired in a trade from Philadelphia, could be the pick the Browns use on their franchise quarterback. And that may be Garoppolo, not Trubisky or Watson

154 responses to “Report: Browns have real interest in trading for Jimmy Garoppolo

  1. Poor Garrappollo. The Browns had the worst Oline in the league last year. They gave up a whopping 138 QB hits and 68 sacks.

    In fact the team is foolish to waste any high draft stock on a QB and should be drafting Oline with their first 3 picks to try and fix that all at once.

    It always amazes me that so called “football guys” the teams want in personnel just don’t get the game starts with the line, not the QB. Doesn’t matter who you have back there if you can’t keep him upright.

  2. Honestly, they’ve wasted so many firsts on a QB, blowing a #1 overall pick with such a monsters like Jonathan Allen or Myles Garrett sitting there would seem like playing with fire. At least Garoppolo has shown he can play extremely well in the league, has learned from a great program and is still very young. No pick is safe, but a trade of 12 for Garoppolo sounds safer than potentially drafting the next Tim Couch, Brandon Wheedon or Johnny Manziel

  3. Your team is nothing without a franchise QB.

    Two #1s and a number 2.

    If they get a QB that lasts 15 years. There is nothing they can give which is too great.

    All the best teams have QBs for 10 plus years.

  4. Browns have got to be crazy.. Lets just give the BEST team in the AFC east the 1st pick in the draft. Lets use your head for something besides a place to put your hands when things go south

  5. Garoppolo is a proven asset, the Browns won’t risk spending a pick on him, because the chances he succeeds are too great.

    Cleveland won’t allow for success.

  6. #1 overall isn’t good enough. Jimmy is already proven, groomed by the best ever, and ready to go now. 1 and 12 would be a starting point for me. I would probably just keep him if I am the Patriots and see what happens with Tom next year.

  7. Why would the Browns have real interest in Garoppolo — when they have contractual rights to the services of Johnny Football?

    (LOL)

  8. Trubisky and Watson will be drafted before the 12th pick in the draft. If the consensus is that Garoppolo is better, Cleveland may have to throw in a 4th round pick as well. There are other teams that will want Garoppolo. Arizona is one that comes to mind.

  9. So why did they pass on him in the draft – more than once? Why did they take Manziel when they coulda had Derek Carr?

  10. Why would you not trade a pick for him? The draft is weak in QBs. Trade down from 1st overall to recoup lost draft pick. Wait, that might make too much sense for the Browns.

  11. If Cleveland was smart, and that’s a big if, they should take the best player available, trade the #12 pick down to say 18. Pick up an extra second rounder, and trade the #18 pick for Garropolo. Belechick would rather have a mid first round pick then the top of the draft.

  12. Would be interesting to see New England push for that 1st overall, even if they had to add value. Who was the last early pick for them? Richard Seymour?

  13. Cleveland! Party of one. Your table in the basement is ready. Tonight we’ll be serving the broken dreams of Cleveland fans with a side of another bad trade idea.

  14. Mary Kay Cabot PLEASE do your homework and don’t pay attention to all the uninformed mock drafts and editorials that “think” they know what is happening in the Browns front office. If Garoppolo was such a “slam-dunk” as a potential franchise quarterback do you really think BB would trade him!

  15. The Browns trading for the Patriots back up QB is the most delusional thing I have read since the season ended for perennial NFL losers! LOL over and over as Tom Brady will be forty in August of this year!

  16. BB will trade Jimmy G to Cleve for Cleveland’s 2nd and 4th round draft picks in 2017 & a 3rd round in 2018 (allowing Cleveland not to have to give up a first round pick) …

    However the Belichick gold in this deal is getting the first picks kicking off days two (Sat) and three (Sun) of the draft … those picks usually trading gems as teams target particular players at the beginning of each day and willing to overpay to jump to these spots…

    This would be such a BB move!

  17. And i’m sure N.E. has real interest in stealing the Browns 1st overall pick for a guy who’s no better than Derek Anderson.

  18. Cleveland would be the perfect team to feature on Hard Knocks this year. With all the picks they have stockpiled, they have the opportunity to not only dominate the entire off-season, but to transform the franchise for the future.

    The front office will be under the gun to hit on multiple players in the draft, as well as to find the franchise QB. Any true friction between the head coach and the numbers guys will certainly be tested. It’s probably the most important off-season they have had in a generation, and it would be fantastic to get an early look at how things start off in camp.

  19. I think Garappolo is going to be pretty good. Patriots are really going to evaluate how much more they can get from Brady. There’s potential to keep the dynasty going for another 10+ years if they play their cards right.

  20. 2 or 3 first rounders makes sense when you look at the robert griffin deal. also the jared goff deal last year..

    its the rate for a stud.

    anything less and the patriots are giving him away.

  21. Cleveland has done far worse wasting draft picks than using a #1 pick on a QB that actually has shown some ability, and has been coached by one of the best coaches in the game.

  22. Maybe a second round pick and something next year but that would seem to be his value. But, Shanny in Franny might bite the big one for him. Belichick is too slick for the dumb teams that need a QB.

  23. Probably a bad sign for AJ Mccarron’s trade value. Hue has worked with him and he could surely be had for less. If hue doesn’t want him that’s not going to look good to other teams

  24. Haven’t teams learned their lesson already on Patriot backup QB’s with little to no game experience? Apparently not…

  25. milliondollardream2 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 7:57 AM

    #1 overall isn’t good enough. Jimmy is already proven, groomed by the best ever, and ready to go now. 1 and 12 would be a starting point for me. I would probably just keep him if I am the Patriots and see what happens with Tom next year.

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    They said the same stuff about Ryan Mallett and Brian Hoyer…

  26. Give them everything they want. Both firsts and your next five first rounders. He stayed healthy for a whole 2 games with a good offensive line. He should make it at least a quarter or two with the browns o line. Worth every penny. How about be patient and build up a team. Then get him for no picks next year or draft a qb high. Common sense don’t work with jimmy and his band if non football guys, I get that.

  27. Wait, it appears the Browns have said nothing. This “report” is by a Cleveland sports reporter who claims:

    “Sources say the Browns’ interest in Garoppolo is real and that they’ll try to trade for him depending on how their draft evaluations go over the next five weeks or so.”

    This smells like a total click-bait, fake news fabrication.

    Besides, if the Browns actually did express an interest in Jimmy G, wouldn’t that be tampering?

  28. chadsmith013 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 8:25 AM
    will be another failed trade for the Browns…anything we have seen from Garop was him being a product of the system
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    Then use that system. He seems to do well with it.

  29. Seeing that this is a Mary Kay Cabot piece, I’ll just assume it’s not true. She did once say that Jason Campbell was the long term solution at QB and is now advocating that the Browns draft Trubiski with their first pick and then trade #12 for Garopolo. It makes you wonder how she gets paid to churn out such drivel.

  30. It’s going to be a seller’s market, the 12th pick alone will not do it. New England isn’t going to trade him to some of the teams in need (Denver, NY) but there’s no shortage of others that will be interested that may drive the price up.

  31. Not worth the #12 pick, let alone two #1’s. But, a desperate Browns team will probably overpay and do something this crazy. Pretty soon there will be enough Browns and Jets QB’s to start another league.

  32. I remember well the last qb the Pats fans thought was so great and invaluable to every other team…..Matt Cassel….How good was he? I see the same in grabapolo stick.

  33. “Would be interesting to see New England push for that 1st overall, even if they had to add value. Who was the last early pick for them? Richard Seymour?”

    Jerod Mayo

  34. There’s no way I’d trade more than a second and a fourth for Jimmy G. A first round pick for a guy that has three starts and one ending in injury? You’re crazy. I’d rather roll with Kessler than give up that kind of draft equity. This team has needs all over the place.

    Garrett with #1, BPA @ #12 unless Trubs/Kizer/Watson is available.

  35. GOAT has a finite window for winning Superbowl’s. Trading for draft picks makes no sense unless winning the next two years means that much less than after that. A package with two or three established players we need is what helps us immediately.

  36. If the Browns are really going to do this, they might as well forfeit the rest of their picks. There is no way you give a 1st and a 4th for a guy like this, he’s not proven. Hell he couldn’t even last 4 games.

  37. Not comparing Jimmy G to these guys – but i’m sure there are the discussion’s that the Quaterbacks who have played with that quick of release, have been or will be HOF’ers…
    -Joe Namath
    -Dan Marino
    -Aaron Rogers
    Again, not putting him into this class, but for the sake of discussion, these are the only guys you can compare his quick release to. This has to hold some merit when weighing just the measurable’s. Does he have the leadership, competitiveness, instincts, and Football IQ to be in that kind of class remains to be seen. IMO, I’d take my chances on Jimmy over any QB coming out of the draft any day. At least you have an idea of what you’re going to get!

  38. Honestly, the Browns haven’t been known for their smart decisions for a long time. However, trading the #12 overall pick (and maybe a later round pick if necessary) for Jimmy G would be a smart move on their part.
    Whether Garoppolo would be thrilled with it is another matter, though he would be the instant starter.

  39. With the Pats offensive line and their excellent coaching my sister could put up the same numbers as Garoppolo. So, maybe a second pick tops.

  40. Though I have to add, the Browns have brought in some good players recently, and do seem to have a HC who has the respect of his team.

  41. This better be a smoke screen.
    Hue coached McCarron at Cincinnati and he is a free agent this year. No need to pay a pick, right? Proven commodity (see Pittsburgh playoff game he won then the grievous defense gave back) who knows the coach and the system. Trading for Garappolo would be a massive risk compared to snagging McCarron.

  42. x716199121 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 8:14 AM
    Would be interesting to see New England push for that 1st overall, even if they had to add value. Who was the last early pick for them? Richard Seymour?
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    Depends on how you define “early pick”. Jerod Mayo was the #10 pick in the 1st round in the 2008 draft for the Pats. The Pats ended up with that pick via a trade with the 49ers during the 2007 draft and then they traded down with I forget who in 2008 to get Mayo.

  43. Matt Cassel & Brock Osweiler 2.0 & 3.0 respectively.

    Jimmy G is not worth a 1st round draft pick. 51st pick is stretch. 65th pick maybe.

    This is a weak O-Line draft class with the exception of a small handful of people. Strong for CB’s, LB and RB. Id just draft Watson and redshirt him. Shore up the defense this year and groom the QB behind RGIII for next year.

    Make a few trade downs in 2017 to stockpile picks for 2018 where they can snag a tackle & center in the first round. Guards in the 2nd and 3rd.

  44. .
    It’s supply and demand. Several teams have “aging” QBs Many have no QB. The QBs available through the draft are not ready for prime time. There’s not much available on the trade market. Therefore, the price for Garopollo will be inflated.

    If the Browns were to acquire him, they would do so based on inside intelligence provided by Jaime Collins who practiced against Jimmy G every day since he came into the league.
    .

  45. I love these guys saying he’s worth the 65th pick.

    NE is not trading him for that, so it doesn’t matter.

    If Houston and Cleveland and some other team have interest, let them make their offers. if it’s good enough, Jimmy will be traded. If it’s not, Patriots keep him.

  46. “Welcome, Jimmy. Here’s the putrid line that will have you running for your life. Over there are the 15 guys who all call themselves GM. The guy in cuffs is our owner.”

  47. harrisonhits2 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 9:08 AM
    ” This is Brady’s last game as a New England Patriot.”
    Lol keep dreamin’

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    I agree he’ll keep playing, but it isn’t so bad to have a competent back up.

  48. The Cassel comparisons and the 2nd or 3rd round valuations are laughable. Garoppolo was a 2nd round pick that has had 3 years of tutelage under one of the better offensive staffs in the game and has shown, albeit in a small sample size, that he is coachable and can play at an NFL level. Cassel was a 7th round pick that took the helm of a stacked roster that went 16-0 the previous year and lost 5 games.

  49. If Belichick is as horrible a GM as as all the media experts have consistently portrayed him, it should be easy for a team to dupe him into a bad trade deal.

    How does he keep making all these dumb decisions but have the most consistently excellent team? That’s right, he’s just lucky, and crooked of course.

  50. To pjrhc, McCarron is not a free agent until 2018 and Cincy likes having him around for another year.

  51. I will make it simple, they’re idiots if they give up a high draft pick for this guy. However, New England will probably fleece them and make their team stronger. It’s getting hard to feel sorry for the Browns if this happens.

  52. Pats may want to pump the brakes here. Although Brady is still playing at MVP level, when the lights go out, it is often sudden and irreversible. See Peyton Manning. JG has been groomed for a seemless succession when Brady hangs it up. A good qb is hard to find.

  53. Sorry Pats fans, there’s NO NFL team that would give up a first round pick or more for a backup QB with only 2 starts and got injured in those starts.

    No, not even Cleveland is that dumb.

  54. The Browns will TRY to trade for him but most likely, here’s how it’s going to happen: Browns offer a second round pick, pats reject it. Talk what you will about the Browns Personnel staff but until they have a misstep, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. I don’t see them overreaching for another injury prone QB.

  55. You lost me at Mary Kay Cabot. Her entire career centers around a fascination for all things QB. She specializes in creating controversy when there is none. As long as there is an unemployed , free agent, trade bait or college QB alive she won`t run out of columns.

  56. I’m not sure if he’s Matt Cassell 2.0 – I do like him, but he’s no sure thing. Maybe the first pick of the 2nd round – not the 1st or 12th overall pick.

  57. Pats asking a 1st and a 4th for Garappolo. Browns likely to offer #52 and conditional 3rd ( becomes a 2nd) in 2018. Middle ground likely #33 & the conditional pick. Unlikely that SF, CHI, & NYJ outbids. Possible HOU, DEN or BUF does. But Bill kbows that the first pick in the second round is the cat bird seat for trades. I’m fine with rolling the dice on Garappolo this year.in this scenario. Allows the team to add two top end players and address other needs in the draft.

  58. htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:27 AM

    Sorry Pats fans, there’s NO NFL team that would give up a first round pick or more for a backup QB with only 2 starts and got injured in those starts.

    No, not even Cleveland is that dumb.
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    Then NE will have to muddle along with a SB team, a starting QB who is the GOAT and a back up that seems poised to step in when Brady finally decides to hang them up.

    It sure does suck to be a Pats fan.

  59. wib22 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:31 AM

    His first game and a half was productive, but doesn’t fit the “durr all brady backups suck” narrative

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    That’s because he hasn’t gone to another team and shown it yet.

  60. carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:38 AM

    htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:27 AM

    Sorry Pats fans, there’s NO NFL team that would give up a first round pick or more for a backup QB with only 2 starts and got injured in those starts.

    No, not even Cleveland is that dumb.
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    Then NE will have to muddle along with a SB team, a starting QB who is the GOAT and a back up that seems poised to step in when Brady finally decides to hang them up.

    It sure does suck to be a Pats fan.
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    Enjoy it while you can.

  61. Unbelievable some of the things people write.

    Easy to beat down a franchise when it’s already down. One of the proudest moments I had this year as a Patriots fan was BB taking the time after playing the Browns to go and pay homage to one of the greatest in NFL history.

    Jim Brown of the Cleveland Browns.

    Everything in life is cyclical. I’m enjoying the Patriots success but not at the expense of anyone else and with the perfect notion that it will not last forever. But the memory will always be there. The gift it has been to see Tom Brady play (and Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers – that throw in Dallas playbacks at least once per day in my mind) is priceless.

    Footfall is the greatest sport on this earth but it sure brings out a fair share of idiots and morons!!!

  62. If the Patriots, who have a QB who will be 40 by week 1 next year, agree to trade you Jimmy G you should be very afraid…

  63. Two words for the Cleveland front office – first word – Matt. Second word – Cassel. Do not overpay for anyone on that roster. There’s a reason that the Pats let these people walk – they are scheme guys and outside of the Pats scheme – they fail.

  64. This could be the first time that “moneyball” saves a team.

    The Browns will not want Jimmy (Matt Cassell 2.0) Garoppolo due to the money. They can control a 1st round QB for 5 years on the cheap.

  65. I don’t think the Pats would even want the first overall. They wouldn’t pick there, and not a lot of exceptional talent in the draft this year for whom other teams may want to trade up and pay premium.
    If it works out with the Browns, I see the Pats getting the 12th pick and the 33rd from Cleveland, plus some lower level pick, in exchange for Garoppolo and the 32nd (see what I did there?)

  66. Deshaun Watson is 1000 times better than Garoppolo. Of course the Browns will pass on him and trade for Matt Cassel 2.0. #factoryofsadness

  67. harrisonhits2 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 7:53 AM

    Poor Garrappollo. The Browns had the worst Oline in the league last year. They gave up a whopping 138 QB hits and 68 sacks.

    That’s true in every draft – the suckers draft the highest QB pick and have nothing but a paper towel fort to protect him with.

    FREE JIMMY!

  68. JMClarkent says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:51 AM
    If the Patriots, who have a QB who will be 40 by week 1 next year, agree to trade you Jimmy G you should be very afraid…
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    That completely ignores the objective reality of both team’s situations. NE is very high on Jacoby Brissette, they have multiple key players to take care of on their current roster and can’t tie up serious cap space on both Garoppolo and Brady. Cleveland has the draft capital AND the cap space as well as the obvious need. Outside of of the enlightened self interest of preferring to trade him outside of the conference NE’s & Cleveland’s wants and needs dovetail pretty well.

  69. slomojoe1 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:59 AM

    I don’t think the Pats would even want the first overall. They wouldn’t pick there, and not a lot of exceptional talent in the draft this year for whom other teams may want to trade up and pay premium.
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    I’m sure they’d either find a guy to take, or trade down or into next year and turn it into real value.

  70. If the Pats are willing to trade him, it obvious they know he’s worth more in a trade than keeping (Matt Cassel). Worth a 3rd or 4th rounder at best to kick the tires, nothing more. 3.5 games and an injury doesn’t make him a 1st rounder at all.

  71. JMClarkent says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:51 AM

    If the Patriots, who have a QB who will be 40 by week 1 next year, agree to trade you Jimmy G you should be very afraid…
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    Pats have Jacoby Brissett who they think will be a starter one day soon – if Brady keeps playing, Brissett’s timing works out better for them.

  72. htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:42 AM

    carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:38 AM

    NE will have to muddle along with a SB team, a starting QB who is the GOAT and a back up that seems poised to step in when Brady finally decides to hang them up.

    It sure does suck to be a Pats fan.
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    Enjoy it while you can.
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    I do. I grew up a Viking fan and had more than my fair share of heartache and losing seasons.

    Moving to New England and becoming a Pats fanas an adult has been a pretty satisfying run.

  73. chadsmith013 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 8:25 AM
    will be another failed trade for the Browns…anything we have seen from Garop was him being a product of the system

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    Wow, sounds like a lot of teams should be copying this magic system. The Browns might not have needed, what, six different QBs this season?

  74. The Patriots would be crazy to trade Jimmy Garoppolo. He still has 1 year before free agency and there is absolutely no telling when Tom Brady will hit the dreaded one way express lane to old age. I love Tom and appreciate everything he’s done for us, but when you consider he will be 40 years old at the start of next season I have to believe its time to stop counting on him. By no means am I saying they should trade/cut Brady, I’m simply saying you can no longer afford to do business as if Brady will be there for the next 2-3 years. Bill needs to be smart with Jimmy so he doesn’t end up like the Broncos, great supporting cast but nobody to fill the leading role.

  75. Take Watson and Trubisky as they are today. Add PRE-draft Goff and Wentz, then throw in Garopolo as he stands today. With that group of 5, if the draft were held tomorrow, 2/3 if not more of NFL teams take Garopolo first. The difference is that in 2017, his contract situation drops his trade value somewhat, with a large cap number coming in 2019. That being said, the number 12 pick from Philly should be a starting point. Add the 2018 2nd rounder that came from Philly and you have your deal, maybe with some shuffling of late round picks. Cleveland gets to keep the rest of this draft to build. New England gets the flexibility to turn 1st and 2nd round pick into multiple picks for two straight drafts. New England is satisfied. More importantly, Cleveland is in a position to build and give hope to their fans. That is, of course, until the Browns be the Browns and end up picking first again in 2019 or 2020.

  76. mygirlhassuperhairymanarms says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:23 AM

    See Peyton Manning.
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    Peyton Manning declined because he had to stop taking the HGH that got him back from not being able to throw a ball.

  77. htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:42 AM
    carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:38 AM

    htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:27 AM

    Sorry Pats fans, there’s NO NFL team that would give up a first round pick or more for a backup QB with only 2 starts and got injured in those starts.

    No, not even Cleveland is that dumb.
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    Then NE will have to muddle along with a SB team, a starting QB who is the GOAT and a back up that seems poised to step in when Brady finally decides to hang them up.

    It sure does suck to be a Pats fan.
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    Enjoy it while you can.

    I think what you meant to say was that we should continue enjoying what we have been enjoying the the last 16 years.

    All these doom & gloomers who want to remind us that NE will suck someday don’t get that we’re playing with house money. Prior to Brady, I was convinced NE would never win a SB. If they never win another, I’m good.

    Thank you Mo Lewis. Sorry Drew.

  78. htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:42 AM
    carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:38 AM

    htown1035 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 10:27 AM

    Sorry Pats fans, there’s NO NFL team that would give up a first round pick or more for a backup QB with only 2 starts and got injured in those starts.

    No, not even Cleveland is that dumb.
    ————————————————————-
    Then NE will have to muddle along with a SB team, a starting QB who is the GOAT and a back up that seems poised to step in when Brady finally decides to hang them up.

    It sure does suck to be a Pats fan.
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    Enjoy it while you can.

    I think what you meant to say was that we should continue enjoying what we have been enjoying the the last 16 years.

    All these doom & gloomers who want to remind us that NE will suck someday don’t get that we’re playing with house money. Prior to Brady, I was convinced NE would never win a SB. If they never win another, I’m good.

    Thank you Mo Lewis. Sorry Drew.

  79. truetrue85 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:36 AM
    By no means am I saying they should trade/cut Brady, I’m simply saying you can no longer afford to do business as if Brady will be there for the next 2-3 years.
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    The Pats are certainly mindful of that. Why else do you think they drafted Brissett?

  80. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:05 AM

    Deshaun Watson is 1000 times better than Garoppolo.
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    That’s it. The genius has spoken. This guy has never been wrong about anything, so I assume NFL GM’s are checking his latest comments and re-arranging their draft strategies accordingly.

  81. If I am the Pats, I would ask Garoppolo if he prefers a trade or a discounted signing to stay with the Pats. The team does not like to give no trade clauses but they could put in his new contract that he gets another new contract or a bonus and revised salary if traded.

    If I am Jimmy I would prefer to stay at a discount than to go to a franchise that does not have an excellent strategy in place to improve but I wouldn’t sign for a discount with the chance I could still get traded.

    I have to laugh at all of the fans from other teams advising the Browns not to give the Patriots draft picks early in the 1st round. Too funny.

  82. The Browns will end up taking Patrick Mahomes at #2. When all the scouting reports are in, Mahomes will move way up to the top of the board. Around this time last year, Carson Wentz was being projected as a mid-round pick. There is still a lot of time for evaluating. I think Mahomes is the best QB, followed by Trubisky.

  83. chadsmith013 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 8:25 AM

    will be another failed trade for the Browns…anything we have seen from Garop was him being a product of the system
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    Magic system: Brady is terrible, anyone could do it.

    Which means that Belichick is a super genius having created a magic system anyone can succeed in.

    But he was a losing coach with Drew Bledsoe, so the magic system must not have been in place yet.

    Wait a minute, Brady was winning the instant he arrived, using that same system.

    So it must be Brady that is the reason they win.

    Honestly, I can’t keep it straight.

  84. Jimmy G had a better passer rating and a better winning pct than Brady this year, and probably did it against better competition. Obviously you take Brady over Jimmy G, but Jimmy is a good QB. Probably Carr and Jimmy are the best QBs in that draft class. Vikings didn’t pick either one.

  85. Pats get: Browns # 12 this year …..&
    Browns 2nd & 4th next year…..(they do have two picks in each of those rounds)
    Browns get: Jimmy Garopallo….. Their franchise QB

  86. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:05 AM
    Deshaun Watson is 1000 times better than Garoppolo. Of course the Browns will pass on him and trade for Matt Cassel 2.0. #factoryofsadness

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    How does Deshaun Watson compare to your Jets QBs Jets’ fan? If he is 1000x better than Jimmy then he must be like 100000000000000000000x better than Geno Smith…..right Jets’ fan?

  87. There is only one good way to build an offence to compete…start with the O-line!

    A top notch rushing O-line will make a good runner a 1,000 yard rusher. That makes play action stronger…give a so-so QB good play action and an extra second in the pocket and you have a QB that throws for 3,500 yards a year.

    It’s so basic it’s a wonder why any NFL team pays a rookie QB millions of dollars without having the O-line set.

  88. tonebones says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:55 AM
    The Browns will end up taking Patrick Mahomes at #2.
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    So the Browns are swapping picks with SF? Do tell.
    It’s hard to take an evaluation of QB’s seriously from someone that doesn’t even know the draft order.

  89. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:05 AM
    Deshaun Watson is 1000 times better than Garoppolo. Of course the Browns will pass on him and trade for Matt Cassel 2.0. #factoryofsadness
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    Brady and Montana together aren’t a ‘1000 times’ better than Garoppolo but Watson is? Your patsanoia has overwhelmed you…again.

  90. How many picks would the Browns have given up for TB12 back in 2000? Everyone says Brady couldn’t have saved the Browns but he sure as hell saved the 5-11 Patriots he took over. The team was regressing and Bledsoe was another bad start or two from being benched. If he was a system QB, why didn’t Belichick use the system on Drew??? Hell, why doesn’t every team in the league switch to the Patriot’s system? Appears to be working out well.

    If I was Cleveland, I’m get Jimmy G at any and all costs…This could finally be the move that saves their franchise for good!

  91. jetblackninja says:
    Feb 1, 2017 7:57 AM
    Garoppolo is a proven asset, the Browns won’t risk spending a pick on him, because the chances he succeeds are too great.
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    Proven? How many of the Pats rings are you attributing to Garoppollo?

  92. maust1013 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:51 AM

    truetrue85 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 11:36 AM
    By no means am I saying they should trade/cut Brady, I’m simply saying you can no longer afford to do business as if Brady will be there for the next 2-3 years.
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    The Pats are certainly mindful of that. Why else do you think they drafted Brissett?

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    Yeah, I’m not really thrilled with what I saw out of him. Jimmy had the offense rolling like Brady had never left, Jacoby won 1 game with smoke and mirrors and then was shutout the following week against a team that had film of him. Granted he’s a rookie, but lets be real here.

  93. Glennon, Garappolo and McCarron are all about the same, basically average QBs in the NFL. I would trade at most, the the top second round pick and maybe another pick (late 3rd this year or 2nd next year) for any of them. The Browns should also draft someone like Nathan Peterman this year to work with Kessel as the back ups. Next year will be the year to grab a franchise QB in the draft. Browns should
    see if they can trade down with someone this year and get another 1st round pick in next year’s draft. Then take one of those top CBs in the draft and a playmaker, like Mike Williams, Dalvin Cook or Leonard Fournette.

  94. truetrue85 says:
    Feb 1, 2017 2:49 PM

    Yeah, I’m not really thrilled with what I saw out of him. Jimmy had the offense rolling like Brady had never left, Jacoby won 1 game with smoke and mirrors and then was shutout the following week against a team that had film of him.
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    In fairness, he had a thumb injury that required surgery the next week, so I don’t think you can blame the kid. But I agree we all haven’t seen enough to know much of anything.

  95. Garoppolo’s a nice player. He has maybe the quickest release in the league right now. He appears to know how to read defenses and make adjustments at the line of scrimmage. He wasn’t some fifth-rounder with no measurables and a meh career at Eastern Illinois. A Div. 1-AA quarterback drafted in the second round (and considered a possible first round pick at the time) is a legit prospect. And he broke all of Tony Romo’s school records. Durability is a legitimate concern. But recall that when he got hurt, he’d built a 24-0 lead against a team with a pretty good defense. The Browns can’t do any worse trading the 12th pick for this kid than they’ve done drafting unproven amateurs with the top pick over the last decade, can they? The draft has become such an industry that we tend to fetishize the process. But Garoppolo is clearly better than any QB coming out of college right now. If he were in Houston or Kansas City instead of behind the greatest QB of all time, he’d already be a productive starter in this league.

  96. Be careful, Jimmy G may also be like an Oswieler, Matt Flynn or Kevin Kolb. It’s at best slightly less risky to take a QB with a successful, but very limited sample size as it is a college QB. Garappolo is probably worth a late round 1 or early 2 but definitely not a 1st overall or even 12. Besides that his durability is already in question. Brett Favre had a great year in 2007, but the Packers knew what they had in Rogers so were ready to move on. If the Patriots want to trade Garappolo you can be pretty sure he ain’t the next Rogers or Steve Young. Belichick doesn’t lose on trades too often.

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