Tom Brady owns 11 Super Bowl records

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady broke three single-game passing records at Super Bowl LI, added to four of his own career passing records, became the first player to play in seven Super Bowls and tied a record by being the second player to play on the winning team in five Super Bowls.

Add up those and the two single-game records Brady owned in previous Super Bowls, and he’s now the record holder for 11 different official NFL Super Bowl records. Here’s the complete list:

    RECORDS BRADY SET AT SUPER BOWL LI

Most games played: 7

Most pass attempts, career: 309

Most pass attempts, game: 62

Most pass completions, career: 207

Most pass completions, game: 43

Most passing yards, career:2,071

Most passing yards, game:466

Most passing touchdowns, career: 15

    RECORD BRADY TIED AT SUPER BOWL LI

Most games, winning team: 5 (tied with Charles Haley)

    RECORDS BRADY SET AT OTHER SUPER BOWLS

Most consecutive completions: 16 at Super Bowl XLVI

Most pass attempts without an interception in a game: 48 at Super Bowl XLII

231 responses to “Tom Brady owns 11 Super Bowl records

  1. GOAT

    sore crybabies, you have no argument!

    And please with the over used “stay classy” comment

    Can you imagine the hatred that would have been spewed on here if the Patriots lost. You troll were sitting by your keyboard foaming at the mouth then it all came crashing down.

  2. matiberio says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:14 AM
    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?

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    No Jim Kelly probably does for the 4 he lost

  3. As a Bills fan all I can say is we witnessed 2 miracles during the last 2 Patriot Super Bowl wins…..unbelievable!!

  4. matiberio says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:14 AM
    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?
    ___________________________________
    When you’ve played in 7 Superbowls & thrown the ball as many times as Brady has, it wouldn’t surprise me….. Winning 5 Rings does come at some cost you know….. But I’m ok with it….are you??!!

  5. Still amazing to me that it took the nation this long to recognize his greatness. Some of us spotted it back in the early 2000s. Yet by the same token people spent decades defending Peyton “One and Done” Manning with almost no basis aside from his abuse of one of the saddest divisions in professional sports. The ultimate alternative facts.

  6. matiberio says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:14 AM

    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?
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    No, Elway holds that record with 8 in 5 games, but I think Manning deserves special mention for throwing a pick 6 to actually lose the game vs New Orleans.

  7. Incredible tale of two QBs with Brady.

    When Brady was getting pressured by the Falcons he was awful. Misthrows, underthrows, overthrows, inaccuracy, pick 6, near picks.
    Then when the Falcons got gassed and he had time in the pocket, it was a completely different QB.

    You win with these classic pocket passers, but they’re only as good as their Oline will allow. It’s a good thing the Falcons defense ran out of gas then. Or it would have ended very differently. Dan Quinn gotta be sick about how he coached late in the game.

  8. Tom Brady is an assassin. He is the greatest athlete in American professional sports history. Step aside Bill Russell, Jordan and Babe Ruth, Tommy is now the best. Oh and by the way, Tommy is going to win it all again next year. I guarantee it.

  9. Brady owns a lot of things. Just read the comments. I’ll check back after the parade! Another great day in Patriot nation! Hope you are here! WOO HOO super bowl champions again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. matiberio says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:14 AM
    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?

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    Yes there is, and no, Brady doesn’t have that one. You’ll have to attempt to carve some other alternative history to fit your agenda.

    Elway – 8 (in 5 games)
    Craig Morton/Jim Kelley – 7 (in 2 and 4 games respectively)
    Fran Tarkennton – 6 (in 3 games)
    Rich Gannon – 5 (1 game)

    Maybe you could say he’s too slow or something? Would that help?

  11. imsomeguy says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:30 AM

    One record he doesn’t have is being undefeated in SB appearances.
    ————————————————————-
    That’s correct. Trent Dilfer is undefeated. As is Brad Johnson.

    Montana brilliantly decided to lose multiple times in the NFC title game and in the divisional round so he could avoid playing in the SB when the 49ers weren’t good enough to win it and thus preserve his undefeated record.

  12. Most interceptions thrown, career, 8
    John Elway – Denver, 5 games: XXI, XXII, XXIV, XXXII, XXXIII

    Most interceptions thrown, game, 5
    Rich Gannon – Oakland vs. Tampa Bay, XXXVII

    Brady has thrown 5 interceptions total in the Super Bowls he’s competed in so far.

  13. unclebluck says:

    As a Bills fan all I can say is we witnessed 2 miracles during the last 2 Patriot Super Bowl wins…..unbelievable!!
    ==================================

    detractors will say that he plays in the AFC East and point out the Pat’s record in the division as a way to say they have it easy. What they fail to see is the AFC east against the rest of the league has a very respectable record.

    I would say that playing the Dolphins and Bills defenses over the years has made the Patriots a better team.

    the Jets even have been tough over the years.

    of course people will not check the records and just reply the east is easy, but reality is they play the rest of the NFL very tough.

  14. “Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?”

    Tom Brady’s thrown 5 interceptions in 309 Super Bowl passes. Rich Gannon threw 5 in 44 attempts in SB XXXVII.

    John Elway has the career SB interception record with 8 (152 attempts).

  15. He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.

    Dak’s first season:
    67.8 Completion % (Brady has only had higher than this once)
    104.9 QBR (Brady has only had higher than this 4 times)
    23-4 TD/INT ratio
    3667 pass yards
    286-6 rush yard/TD ratio

    Brady’s first actual season:
    63.9 Completion % (haha)
    86.5 QBR (hahaha)
    18-12 TD/INT ratio (yikes)
    2843 passing yards
    43-0 rush yards/TD ratio

  16. Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

  17. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM
    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.

    Dak’s first season:
    67.8 Completion % (Brady has only had higher than this once)
    104.9 QBR (Brady has only had higher than this 4 times)
    23-4 TD/INT ratio
    3667 pass yards
    286-6 rush yard/TD ratio

    Brady’s first actual season:
    63.9 Completion % (haha)
    86.5 QBR (hahaha)
    18-12 TD/INT ratio (yikes)
    2843 passing yards
    43-0 rush yards/TD ratio

    ———————

    Dak’s first season was indeed nice. It will be interesting to see how seasons 2-17 go.

  18. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM
    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.

    Dak’s first season:
    67.8 Completion % (Brady has only had higher than this once)
    104.9 QBR (Brady has only had higher than this 4 times)
    23-4 TD/INT ratio
    3667 pass yards
    286-6 rush yard/TD ratio

    Brady’s first actual season:
    63.9 Completion % (haha)
    86.5 QBR (hahaha)
    18-12 TD/INT ratio (yikes)
    2843 passing yards
    43-0 rush yards/TD ratio

    Oh and you left out one little stat

    Dak’s 1st year – one & done
    Brady’s actual first year – SB MVP

  19. It’s only sad to the non patriot fans as we do realize its highly likely he gets another ring and pads these stats

  20. imsomeguy says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:30 AM
    One record he doesn’t have is being undefeated in SB appearances

    Yeah, that record has a bunch of people with a tie. Brad Johnson, Jeff Hostetler…you know–all the household names.

    You can’t lose it when you never get there in the 1st place.

    Were they great enough to take their teams to 7 Super Bowls? Like no one else has done before? Let me check…

  21. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

    That would be nice, but it only really matters to Giants fans. There are no more questions or comparisons that make sense any more. Every QB in history is now compared to Brady. The argument now becomes, who is the second best QB to ever play.

  22. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM
    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.

    Dak’s first season:
    67.8 Completion % (Brady has only had higher than this once)
    104.9 QBR (Brady has only had higher than this 4 times)
    23-4 TD/INT ratio
    3667 pass yards
    286-6 rush yard/TD ratio

    Brady’s first actual season:
    63.9 Completion % (haha)
    86.5 QBR (hahaha)
    18-12 TD/INT ratio (yikes)
    2843 passing yards
    43-0 rush yards/TD ratio

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    people are desperate to reach for anything they can try to debunk tom brady. trust me, after teams have had an entire offseason to dissect film on dak, hes going to look more like a 4th round qb. wow so he tore up the sorry packers pass d who was down to their 18th string corner when dallas had a bit of momentum and pack was playing prevent at end of garbage time basically. give brady the oline dak has with zeke and dez and im thinking brady could throw 100 tds.

  23. I heard he was a “system QB”, but Montana and Steve Young were not.

    LMAO

    I wonder what faux scandal some of these owners on a conference call right now, scheming to cheat the Pats.

    Wait until BB gets at least a 1st and a 4th for Jimmy G here in a couple of months.

    It will send these other owners and GMs into a rage similar to the dawn of “Spygate”, the original faux scandal when NE was in the title game in 2006, and then signed Seau, Adalius Thomas and used a 2nd, 4th and 7th to get Moss and Welker.

    Keep cheating my team, Roger.

    You won’t win.

  24. I don’t speak for Pats fans, but I couldn’t care less. There’s no monkey. What the Pats have accomplished in the Brady/Belichick era leaves the Giants in the dust. Losing the Undefeated season was too bad though. Just wasn’t meant to be.

  25. matiberio says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:14 AM
    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?
    +++++++++++++++

    Since others have already made you look foolish by posting the numbers you should have looked up before posting and setting the table for us I just wanted to point out that he has as many SB rings as int’s. Good times, good times.

    And please try to get more salt in your diet, this latest flood of tears isn’t as buoyant as the sea of them we are used to floating on.

  26. “Niners have 5 rings!”

    All of which are old and dusty at this point. Your hashtag for the recent 9ers teams should be #nobodyhasitworse

    “He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. ”

    Lol always hilarious to see someone touting a player that had one good season as a guy who’ll be the best ever. Might want to wait till he, you know, actually gets to and wins at least one Super Bowl.

    “Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?”

    Couldn’t care less. Eli is pretty much the only player left from those teams so even if they win against the Giants it will be 2 totally different teams except for Brady and Manning. Its not like they’d be going back to 2008 or 2012 and beating the same guys.

  27. weepingjebus says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:23 AM
    Still amazing to me that it took the nation this long to recognize his greatness. Some of us spotted it back in the early 2000s. Yet by the same token people spent decades defending Peyton “One and Done” Manning with almost no basis aside from his abuse of one of the saddest divisions in professional sports. The ultimate alternative facts.

    ————-

    C0me on… People have been putting him up against Montana since he won his third in 2004 and leading into the 2007 Super Bowl everyone was already ready to coronate him with a win. They lost, so it to a while longer. But really, there was no doubt since he beat Seattle two years ago.

    This nonsense about Montana being undefeated in Super Bowls and throwing no picks makes no sense. It’s better to make a Super Bowl and lose then it is to not make it. Montana lost before the Super Bowl many times. In Conf Championship games or earlier. I am sure he would have liked to make the Super Bowl in a few of those years. Also, the NFC was the dominant conference at that time. The Super Bowl was an easier game than the Championship game where he had to face LT or other great players at the time,

    In any case, this win seals it, but there was already no doubt 2 years ago in my mind.

    If you want to have the argument on arm strength or mobility or stats or the era that guys played, many other guys could come into the discussion, but the objective is to win and Brady has done it better than anyone else.

  28. matiberio says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:14 AM

    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?
    __________________________________

    You are confusing the record for ALL playoff games, which Brady passed Favre with 31. As a Pats’ fan, I don’t mind that he has that record since it is a natural consequence of having been to the playoffs so often, and so deeply.

  29. Good morning Patriot Hater. 🙂

    U still mad huh? 🙂 Don’t be mad, it’s not your fault that your puny little weakling team isn’t man enough to compete with the World Champion Patriots.

    Actually…it is your fault since you’re too wussy to demand better of them. Never mind, I’ll just keep getting in your grill and laughing at you.

    🙂

  30. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

    =========================

    nothing left if u dont care about winning. theres plenty left, like 19-0.

  31. Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

    ——————

    I’ll answer this:

    It’s cute NYers are Boston’s little brothers now, as they were decades ago with the Red Sox in the early 20th Century, Celts in the 50s, 60s or 80s, etc, or Bruins in the 1970s, etc, but we don’t care abput the Giants.

    Fluke plays are fluke plays.

    Luck is luck.

    You tip your cap and move on, but we simply do not care about losing to the Giants since we have so many SB memories.

    It’d be next to impossible to be 7-0 in Super Bowls in the cap era, especially with the commissioner cheating our team all the team to keep parity in place.

    Got it?

    Eli Manning threw 2 passes in each SB with his eyes closed, so good for him.

    It happens.

    It’s not anything better than what we’ve experienced with this incredible run, that clearly is the best in NFL history and arguably all of sports in the current cap eras.

    Have a nice day!

  32. To my fellow fans of the 5 time World Champion Patriots – how do you like your Patriot Hater tears?

    Personally I think they are a refreshing drink. Put them in a frosted glass with a bit of salt and a twist of lime. Mmmm….delicious!

    🙂

  33. Someone asked about the G-men being the only monkey on his back (as if there really ever was one) left to get rid of. I was PRAYING this year we’d play them. I WANT this match up, just because.

    Not sure if it’s a record per se, but Tom also has 2, 2 game win streaks in the Patriot Invita…I mean Super Bowl.

  34. imsomeguy says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:30 AM
    One record he doesn’t have is being undefeated in SB appearances

    —-
    So is Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.

    You know, the paragons of excellence at the position.

    🙂

  35. I wonder if the suspension actually helped him from a health perspective, as well as from a motivational perspective?

    I doubt that Belichick will do this, but it would probably help Brady and the Patriots long-term to give him 2-4 games off during the regular season.

  36. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?
    ********************************************
    Brady did his due diligence for both of those Super Bowl losses to the Giants. The Pats defense was the culprit. Other than Tyree’s catch and if Wes Welker held onto the ball in the other game, Brady could be 7 for 7. But the Pats lost respectively and Pats fans acknowledge this. Would we love to see redemption one last time against the Giants? Yes we would. But we will take 5 out of 7 Super Bowls as well.

  37. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM

    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?
    ————————————————————–
    2011! 5 years ago! How many Giants coaches and players from that 2011 game are even still on the team? 5?

    About the only thing that still remains are the uniforms.

    The Giants won that game and 2007 because they had great coaching, great players and got a few breaks, just like NE has in the years they’ve won.

    But the idea that NE has any special desire to beat the Giants is silly. They’ll take any SB win against whatever NFC team makes it that far. If the Giants can get there again, that’d be fine too.

  38. Congrats to Tom, man. I mean I hate him but how often do fans hate an insignificant player? We hate him b/c he sets all these records. Congrats, Tom. Congrats BeanTown. Now go jump off a cliff. 🙂

  39. Montana lost before the Super Bowl many times. In Conf Championship games or earlier.

    —-
    Ever notice that all of Tom Brady SB wins have come against really great teams? Rams, Panthers, Eagles, Seahawks and now Falcons. Not ONE tomato can in that group.

    Montana can’t quite say the same about his SB competition.

    🙂

  40. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

    —————–

    I think the things that he could accomplish that would be another accolade would be:

    1. Get an undefeated season. Not likely, but maybe not impossible if Brady’s play doesn’t degrade next year. They only lost two games this year and Brady only lost 1. Gronk back healthy, an emerging Malcolm Mitchel maybe a 1st round draft pick for Jimmy G. All depends on health and luck.

    2. Beat the Giants in the Super Bowl. Sure. I would put that at #2. That would be compelling, and watchable again after this year. Not sure I could have watched that one before Sunday happened.

    3. Win a Super Bowl in style. Go in the playoffs with a good record and dominate all 3 games and get a 55-10 kind of Super Bowl.

    4. Win a 6th ring at 40 years old. That would be a good story no matter how it happened.

    I think those are the things will be the reason to watch, but one of these seasons Brady won’t be the same. We just don’t know when. Doesn’t mean they can’t win, like Denver did with Manning.

    I do worry about Brady.

    Brady is a Jerry Rice, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky type. I think he will compete until he can’t and there is a chance that he won’t know when that is himself, just like those other guys.

    He’s not too interested on going out on top. He just wants to play.

    It might not end perfectly like Manning and Ray Lewis unless he hangs them up now, and I just don’t see that happening.

  41. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM

    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.
    ————————————————————–
    It’s not impossible. I give Dak a better chance to eclipse Brady’s record than any other current QB.

    But look at what it would take – years and years of effort, injury avoidance and some luck to make it to enough SBs to even have a chance.

    This year Dak had everything lined up, best record in the NFC, a couple of homes games and they’re there – but they couldn’t get it done.

    Will it be different next year? Or will they start to tighten up if it looks like another one and done about to happen?

  42. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:14 AM

    Montana lost before the Super Bowl many times. In Conf Championship games or earlier.

    —-
    Ever notice that all of Tom Brady SB wins have come against really great teams? Rams, Panthers, Eagles, Seahawks and now Falcons. Not ONE tomato can in that group.

    Montana can’t quite say the same about his SB competition.

    ————————–

    Montana had tough competition but it was all in the NFC

  43. justintuckrule-answer is no. Pats live in the current state while Giants and their fans live in the past. Giants probably wont even make playoffs next year or will be one and done again.

  44. “Montana brilliantly decided to lose multiple times in the NFC title game and in the divisional round so he could avoid playing in the SB when the 49ers weren’t good enough to win it and thus preserve his undefeated record.

    ——————————————

    Kellyanne is that you?

  45. Sad that he needs to play until he is 45 to break all of Peyton’s records. Retire now. He is the undisputed GOAT. Don’t end up like an old, fat, slow Ali getting the hell beat out of you by Larry Holmes.

  46. Old news.
    Champions don’t dwell on the past.
    it’s all about the 2017 season starting now.
    Talking about last year is for losers.

  47. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

    ——-

    That would be nice, but I don’t thinks it’s that important. I don’t know how this SB win can be topped other than an undefeated season.

    Imagine though Brady winning #6 and tying Pittsburgh’so total, but with one QB.

    I think for Brady…..he just loves to play, and if you’re going to play, then you play to win.

  48. Bullcharger hits on a lot of good points. Everyone knows Father Time always eventually wins. Are there 2 years left? 5 years?

    When Brady finally declines, it will most likely manifest itself in the arm strength, like it did with Manning. It was painful watching Peyton try to throw as hard as he could and watch the ball come out wobbly and slow. His brain, game management, and Denver’s tremendous defense won that last Super Bowl for them, but there was no debating that physically, he was toast. Nothing to be ashamed of with all he’d done.

    Brady will leave the field only if they drag him off of it–that’s what we know. We just don’t know when.

    My guess is that Belichick will tell him privately, but respect the situation enough to make it look like Brady decided it.

  49. “Other than Tyree’s catch and if Wes Welker held onto the ball in the other game, Brady could be 7 for 7.”

    And the Edelman catch in this game totally makes up for and offsets the Tyree catch for me.

    I’ve been watching the NFL for something like 53 years and I can only remember 3 or 4 other catches that rate with Edelman’s, Tyree’s being one of them.

    No Pats fan should ever complain about Tyree again. And thanks for that Julian!

  50. dstroi says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:11 AM

    justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?
    ********************************************
    Brady did his due diligence for both of those Super Bowl losses to the Giants. The Pats defense was the culprit. Other than Tyree’s catch and if Wes Welker held onto the ball in the other game, Brady could be 7 for 7. But the Pats lost respectively and Pats fans acknowledge this. Would we love to see redemption one last time against the Giants? Yes we would. But we will take 5 out of 7 Super Bowls as well.
    ————–

    I think the Giants thing matters a lot less since Coughlin’s departure.

    The Pats are also 1-0 against the Giants since 2012. Those losses are long in the rear view mirror. 🙂

  51. imsomeguy says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:30 AM
    One record he doesn’t have is being undefeated in SB appearances.

    —————

    Playoff Win Loss record and Super Bowl Win Loss records are not useful.

    You just have to look at wins. 25 play off wins for Brady, 16 for Montana. 5 Super Bowl wins for Brady, 4 for Bradshaw and Montana.

    Playoff Win Loss records don’t work because you get zero losses for not making the playoffs and one loss for making the playoffs and not winning the Super Bowl. It is clearly worse to miss the playoffs, but it preserves the W-L record.

    Super Bowl Win Loss records are even worse. Look at 2013. Brady didn’t make the Super Bowl after making the AFCCG against Denver. The Patriots probably also would have lost to the Seahawks too. That was a great Seattle team. Brady didn’t take another Super Bowl loss, but that makes no sense. It would have been better for him to be 5-3 now with another Super Bowl appearance.

    In 2006, Brady and Manning had an epic battle in the AFCCG and Brady lost in Manning’s biggest comeback performance. Either team was going to beat the Bears and Rex Grossman. That was like a Montana SB win. If they made it they were winning.

    I think you just look at wins and forget the rest. That’s the most fair way.

    You can certainly look at in game stats too, and Montana’s 0 interceptions in Super Bowls may be the most impressive stat of all. I would just slightly hedge it that he was playing slightly weaker competition compared to the week prior in the championship game. The AFC stunk many of those years.

  52. justintuckrule says:

    “Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?”

    The Pats (or any other AFC champ) plays whomever the NFC sends. Brady doesn’t control that. BTW: Giants would have lost XLVI had the biggest B/S safety not been called on the first play from scrimmage for NE (never saw grounding for overthrow down the seam.) Field goal would have been good enough for 1-point win #4. Woulda, coulda – yes. Giants beat anyone in playoffs, since when? Even Eli said the Tyree catch was the luckiest play in SB history.

  53. tylawspick6 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:03 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?

    ——————

    I’ll answer this:

    It’s cute NYers are Boston’s little brothers now, as they were decades ago with the Red Sox in the early 20th Century, Celts in the 50s, 60s or 80s, etc, or Bruins in the 1970s, etc, but we don’t care abput the Giants.

    Fluke plays are fluke plays.

    Luck is luck.

    You tip your cap and move on, but we simply do not care about losing to the Giants since we have so many SB memories.

    It’d be next to impossible to be 7-0 in Super Bowls in the cap era, especially with the commissioner cheating our team all the team to keep parity in place.

    Got it?

    Eli Manning threw 2 passes in each SB with his eyes closed, so good for him.

    It happens.

    It’s not anything better than what we’ve experienced with this incredible run, that clearly is the best in NFL history and arguably all of sports in the current cap eras.

    Have a nice day!

    ————-

    C’mon man…..show the Giants some respect. Those teams came to play and beat the crap out of Brady in both games. The year they beat the 18-0 Patriots was a huge upset given that the Pats had the all-time scoring offense that season. Sure Eli threw a couple of lucky passes…..but the Giants’ defense beat the Pats in those games.

    Plenty of respect for the Giants from this Pats fan. I would love to see a rematch before Brady retires!

  54. I wish this team hadn’t been caught cheating multiple times. I’d like to enjoy greatness when I see it but I can’t be sure their championship are legitimate.

  55. Brady’s first actual season:
    63.9 Completion % (haha) <— that was 4th in the league. Haha indeed.

    86.5 QBR (hahaha) <— 6th in the league, and higher than Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb and some of the other big names in the league. Haha indeed.

    18-12 TD/INT ratio (yikes) <— 12 INts was nowhere near the most in the league

    —-

    My my… It's WAY too easy to completely own the uninformed Patriot Hater. 🙂

  56. Joe Montana still has not thrown a pick in a Super Bowl.

    ————

    Maybe we can eliminate the cap, clone Jerry Rice and Brady can have his OL use Crisco ontheir jerseys while the Rice Clone uses Stickum, huh?

  57. Who cares about the Giants? A 10-6 and 9-7 team that got hot, got lucky, and most importantly played well a couple times in the postseason. Congrats, but it’s history. You want to challenge the Pats, get to the big game more often. Otherwise, you’re as much our little bros as the steelers.
    Here’s the thing; if the Giants did make their semi decade trip to the Super Bowl, and the Pats beat them, it’d still be, ‘well we got ya 2-1’. It’s the same as Yankees fans. Sox have dominated them in the 21rst century, but it’s like, ‘Remember 1927’? MY PARENTS WEREN’T EVEN BORN YET.

  58. leatherhelmets says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:23 AM
    Joe Montana still has not thrown a pick in a Super Bowl.

    ———-

    Impressive. Why was Joe only capable of making it to four SBs whilst Brady has made it to seven?

  59. “When Brady finally declines, it will most likely manifest itself in the arm strength, like it did with Manning. It was painful watching Peyton try to throw as hard as he could and watch the ball come out wobbly and slow”

    Yes but that was due to the neck injuries more than arm strength. And loss of arm strength would have a been a result of not being able to maintain proper conditioning through the multiple surgeries, and making it much hard to be a workout animal and get it back after he recovered.

  60. 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Brady overhears someone in the crowd saying, “Ryan is proving that he is the real MVP.” And just like Crockadile Dundee said, Brady responds”You call him an MVP? Nah, he ain’t no MVP. Here, let me show you a real MVP.”
    21 minutes later we have the MVP of all MVPs.

    Brady drops mike just like Lady Gaga did, but on Goodell’s head.

  61. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:44 AM
    Pats fans. Serious question. There’s nothing left for him to do. He’s got the sb win record. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back or you couldn’t care less?
    ***********************
    Not a big deal for me – time heals wounds

  62. eagleslayer says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:50 AM
    It’s funny when fans who never saw Joe Montana think Tom Brady is the best Super Bowl QB ever.

    You kids today are just too funny.

    Yeah I guess Steve young doesn’t know what he’s talking about

  63. I wish this team hadn’t been caught cheating multiple times. I’d like to enjoy greatness when I see it but I can’t be sure their championship are legitimate.

    —————————–

    Sure, sure.

    And Tagliabue was in a coma from 2000-2005 and Goodell tells the truth, the Tooth Fairy knocked out Ray Rice’s fiancee in that elevator and Santa Claus fits down everyone’s chimney on XMas eve, too.

  64. eagleslayer says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:50 AM
    It’s funny when fans who never saw Joe Montana think Tom Brady is the best Super Bowl QB ever.

    You kids today are just too funny.
    ————————————————————–

    I watched all of Montana’s Super Bowls and I don’t ever recall him coming back from a 25+ point deficit to win. Which one was that exactly?

  65. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:41 AM

    #12 – most losses against Eli manning in SB history.
    ————————————————————-
    I think those losses were really attributable to the coaching brilliance of HOFer Tom Coughlin, one of the few guys who could give Belichick competition in that regard.

    If you think the Giants are going to have the same success with Mr. Magoo on the sidelines, you really are dreaming.

  66. He owns a lot more than 11.

    Only qb to throw an int with ball pressure below 10.5.
    Only qb to complete a pass with ball pressure below 10.5 Only qb to attempt a handoff with ball pressure below 10.5
    Etc.

  67. greenlargo says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:46 AM
    spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM
    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.

    Dak’s first season:
    67.8 Completion % (Brady has only had higher than this once)
    104.9 QBR (Brady has only had higher than this 4 times)
    23-4 TD/INT ratio
    3667 pass yards
    286-6 rush yard/TD ratio

    ==================================

    RG3’s first season:

    65.7 completion %
    102.4 QBR
    20-5 TD/INT ratio
    3200 pass yards
    815-7 rush yard/TD ratio

    Where is he now?

  68. Brady did his due diligence for both of those Super Bowl losses to the Giants. The Pats defense was the culprit. Other than Tyree’s catch and if Wes Welker held onto the ball in the other game, Brady could be 7 for 7. But the Pats lost respectively and Pats fans acknowledge this. Would we love to see redemption one last time against the Giants? Yes we would. But we will take 5 out of 7 Super Bowls as well.

    ————-

    Pats D was the culprit???!!

    They held the 14 points in SB 42 and held to 13 in SB 46 where Brady took a Safety to start the game, an INT which was god awful to start the 4th qtr on 1st down to a hobbled Gronk and Brady threw high to Welker to ice the game!

    What a crock! I can tell your’re some dopey kid who is probably 20 years old.

    Been a fan for 35 years, with season tickets since 1978.

    Not to mentiuon, that was a Lockout year,. with no OTAs or mini camp and Edelman was playing nickel!

    What BB did htat year as coach and to scrap that D together to hold the Giants to 13 points in an offensive era, was INCREDIBLE and would have been the least amount of points allowed since the 2000 Ravens D!

    Wake up!

    Ugh.

    Fans like you give real Pats fans a bad name.

  69. @justintuckrule

    Brady has nothing left to prove. Yes Eli won 2 against him, I think its funny Giants fan continually bring that up and the 18-1 loss as some point to why Eli is elite or somehow just as good as Brady. You know Brady has 2 rings since that loss and Eli has 1 playoff appearance since then? Why is it you are still clinging to something in 2011 and 2007 instead of looking at the past 2-3 or even 5 seasons? Why omit those? Because Eli couldnt pull a rabbit out of his hat then? Look I actually think Eli is better than people give him credit for, but its funny how the narrative changes to show a NY > Boston stat regardless of facts. (As a someone who lived in NJ for 20+ years I have to point out NYG play there and not in NY). For NY fans Its not Brady has 5, its Eli has 2 against Brady and he has none vs him (Let’s omit 5 wins and focus on 2 losses). Its also that NE choked after an 18-0 start which makes Eli better somehow. Yet when it comes to baseball its not that Yankees lost a 3-0 lead in 04 and have 1 WS in the past 15 years and the Red Sox have 3. It’s well we have 27 still. NY and Boston isnt ever going to agree on sports but it’d be nice to be rational. To answer your question, no Brady does not have to beat a QB who is 1-3 against Sam Bradford to prove hes the best (see what I did there?), he has 5 rings. I do give Eli credit for his play in both wins though. If you are a Giants fan and trying to make a case for him based on those games and omit every year besides 07 and 11, well then you are a moron.

  70. spreadems says: Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM

    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.

    ———————–

    I literally spit out water laughing. Thank you for this.

  71. nhpats says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:51 AM
    leatherhelmets says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:23 AM
    Joe Montana still has not thrown a pick in a Super Bowl.

    ———-

    Impressive. Why was Joe only capable of making it to four SBs whilst Brady has made it to seven?

    He was also let go by SF for a newer model after 14 years while Brady is still with his original team and is Super Bowl MVP for the 3rd time. SF went right on winning so evidently Joe was only a system QB.

  72. Throwing insults at Brady at this point should really be considered a sign of mental-illness and derangement.

    ——————

    Agreed.

    Been saying that for years. An entire generation of mostly Millennials or losers in basements, are so affected by the Pats success the last 15 years, they’re entire existence has been disrupted.

    Our society has never seen anything like this in sports history.

    Large swaths of humans, rendered useless in our society due to a raging hate and jealousy that consumes their very being.

    Yikes!

  73. jchipwood says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:16 AM
    He owns a lot more than 11.

    Only qb to throw an int with ball pressure below 10.5.
    Only qb to complete a pass with ball pressure below 10.5 Only qb to attempt a handoff with ball pressure below 10.5
    Etc.

    Come on little Chippy you can do better

  74. eagleslayer says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:50 AM
    It’s funny when fans who never saw Joe Montana think Tom Brady is the best Super Bowl QB ever.

    You kids today are just too funny.

    Well this 62 YO kid watched every game Montana played that was on TV (ND had nearly every game broadcast) and he was always my GOAT, until Brady.

    Time to let go of the past.

  75. I asked about interceptions because even though I am a Patriots and Brady fan, I am not blind. I am also a bit of a scientist, and know that total career interceptions if not normalized to a per game number can be mis-leading. Since the theme of this particular blog is un-normalized career stats, wanting to know the negative stats is not salty tears, just a desire for a sober view of the man. I could/should have done a better google job before I asked. I see Elway is tops with 8 (over 5 games) and tom is tied for 5th with 5 (over 7 games). Tom’s stats are even better if you normalize the number to interceptions per game. Just a nice to know.

  76. The revenge tour is complete. The GOAT questions have been settled about both coach and QB. Any haters that want to keep flailing away; have at it. It’s all over but the cryin’.

  77. Fact. Brady suspended for cheating cover up. Fact. His team has been sanctioned multiple times for cheating. Fact. His long time offensive coordinator was fired by Denver for cheating (and immediately rehired by the Pats). Am I lying?************

    *Cheaters!

  78. But but but Montana was the best Super Bowl payer ever…..

    Lol Brady haters don’t have a shred of difnity or any ground to stand on anymore.

  79. jchipwood says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:16 AM

    Only qb to throw an int with ball pressure below 10.5.
    Only qb to complete a pass with ball pressure below 10.5 Only qb to attempt a handoff with ball pressure below 10.5
    Etc.
    ————————————————————-
    Are you talking about games in cold weather? If so, then every QB has done this.

    This really isn’t that complicated Chippy.

  80. Flash1287 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:18 AM

    Is there a record for interceptions? Does he have that too?


    Nope that record belongs to John Elway

    —-

    But in 4 more Super Bowls, Brady might catch up.

  81. weepingjebus says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:23 AM

    Yet by the same token people spent decades defending Peyton “One and Done” Manning with almost no basis aside from his abuse of one of the saddest divisions in professional sports. The ultimate alternative facts.
    **********************
    Speaking of the ultimate alternative facts, you should realize the AFC East that the Pats play in is one of the saddest divisions in professional sports. It’s not like the Dolphins, Jets or Bills are on anyone’s radar as solid teams.

  82. He owns a lot more than 11.

    Only qb to throw an int with ball pressure below 10.5.
    Only qb to complete a pass with ball pressure below 10.5 Only qb to attempt a handoff with ball pressure below 10.5
    Etc.

    ****

    Oh chippy, you are so unhappy.

    Accept the patriots having the GOAT qb and it’ll be easier for you.

  83. It is going to an interesting off season.

    To all of you haters, say what you will, pull obscure records like how many times he had to tie his shoes all you want but the reality of it is, the Pats won and a few records were set or matched in the process. Your team(s) lost and the sour grapes attitude is never going the change that.

    I personally believe it is impossible to claim anyone is the best ever in pretty much any sport because different generations or eras have to abide by different rules so if that is the reason you believe he may no be the best ever so be it. If however you are claiming someone else is better, there is absolutely no basis for that claim. Quite frankly we will never know.

    What I will say is this, he is in the discussion of the best ever and he stands all by himself as the best of this era.

  84. tylawspick6 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:27 AM

    Throwing insults at Brady at this point should really be considered a sign of mental-illness and derangement.

    ——————

    Agreed.

    Been saying that for years.

    Our society has never seen anything like this in sports history.
    ***************************
    Sure, except for the Montreal Canadiens, UCLA Bruins, Celtics and the Yankees, but don’t let those facts get in the way of a good time today.

  85. I lived in the Bay area in the 1980’s and watched all of Montana’s games.

    He was great. Very mobile, clutch in big games, a winner.

    But there is some sort of legend in which people remember Montana perhaps better than he was. His stats in that famous first NFC title game win vs Dallas were 22 for 35, 286 yards, 3 TDS, 3 Ints.

    I also remember him getting embarrassed in a 12 point first round home loss to a mediocre Minnesota team, and getting destroyed by the Giants in the playoffs 49-3.

    Not denigrating Montana, just pointing out that he wasn’t infallible.

    I also remember that when he was replaced by Steve Young, the 49ers didn’t really miss a beat and were just as good if not better on offense. I guess they had a pretty good system back then.

  86. OK, LAST ONE. can packer fans stop comparing Rodgers to Brady for gods sake? Rodgers has been to one super bowl in 9 full seasons, and to get there he had to beat the mighty Caleb Haney qb’ing the mighty Chicago bears. all I’ve seen from him since is a few sideline throws that only he could make (yeah ok). and catching 12 men on defense.. big woop. since the super bowl IN FEB 2011, all I’ve seen Rodgers do is fold like a cheap tent. I guess all his marbles ran off the edge of the table.

  87. jchipwood says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:16 AM
    He owns a lot more than 11.

    Only qb to throw an int with ball pressure below 10.5.
    Only qb to complete a pass with ball pressure below 10.5 Only qb to attempt a handoff with ball pressure below 10.5
    Etc.

    ————–

    Keep fighting the good fight little guy! Say, do you think that Shula would have watered down the field to slow down Julio if he were coaching Sunday night?

  88. And now, a moment of silence for our dear Falcon fans. It was an epic, historic choke! Your team had the win in the palm of your hands and gave it away. How did it happen and how are you doing? Talk to us. Will the sun ever shine again in ATL?

  89. leatherhelmets says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:42 AM
    Montana played in an era when you could touch the quarterback.

    evidently you were out of the room each time Brady got slammed to the ground. And there were how many RTP calls?

    enough with that old no facemask nonsense.

  90. In all fairness to Brady*, Montana played with far superior talent than Brady* ever had. Yes, the rules were different but Brady* was/is better at making everyone better. Brady* is the GOAT as is his head coach, Bill Belichik*.

    *GOAT Cheaters.

  91. idiedpretty says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:24 AM
    Sad that he needs to play until he is 45 to break all of Peyton’s records. Retire now. He is the undisputed GOAT. Don’t end up like an old, fat, slow Ali getting the hell beat out of you by Larry Holmes.

    ————–
    Don’t forget that Manning was starting all 16 games from 1998 and Brady didn’t start until his second year in the league in 2001. Manning had 3 full years of starting before Brady started 1 game.

    So Manning played 18 seasons and missed one due to injury in that stretch.

    Brady has started for 16 seasons, and missed one due to injury in that stretch.

    Give Brady those 2 more years and he will be close. 4 missed games this year didn’t help his cause, but he has a chance to be within 2000 passing yards and within 23 TDs after 2018 if he can manage 4000 yard and 30 TD seasons.

    Brees is a factor too. If he doesn’t retire he could easily end up the career leader in passing TDs and passing yards.

    However, that is an outsiders perspective. I really don’t think that is why Brady is continuing to play. He just wants to play. Records are fleeting in the end and they won’t last forever.

    I am bracing myself for the Ali Holmes ending by the way. Jordan at the wizards was similar. I think that is how Brady is wired.

  92. tqaztec says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM

    Montana is 4-0. Break that.
    ———————————————————-
    How many times do these maroons need to be told that you don’t get extra points for losing in the playoffs and failing to reach the SB?

  93. greenmtnboy31 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM

    Our society has never seen anything like this in sports history.
    ***************************
    Sure, except for the Montreal Canadiens, UCLA Bruins, Celtics and the Yankees, but don’t let those facts get in the way of a good time today.
    ————————————————————
    Hey, if you want to rank the Patriots with the greatest sport dynasties in any league at any time, college or pro, I’m OK with it.

  94. leatherface2012 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:55 AM
    OK, LAST ONE. can packer fans stop comparing Rodgers to Brady for gods sake? Rodgers has been to one super bowl in 9 full seasons, and to get there he had to beat the mighty Caleb Haney qb’ing the mighty Chicago bears. all I’ve seen from him since is a few sideline throws that only he could make (yeah ok). and catching 12 men on defense.. big woop. since the super bowl IN FEB 2011, all I’ve seen Rodgers do is fold like a cheap tent. I guess all his marbles ran off the edge of the table.

    ——————

    I think Rodgers deserves more respect then that. Certainly unlikely that he would be able to climb the mountain of accomplishments that Brady has, but he’s still amazing to watch play. I do think Rodgers finally clued in at the end of the season to what he has to do though. You need byes and home playoff games to win consistently in the playoffs. Rodgers can’t afford to have his team blow games to bad teams, which happens occasionally and Rodgers ends up with 11-5 or 10-6 instead of 13-3 or better. Their division hasn’t exactly been great. They need more consistency to get back to the Super Bowl a few more times. That means better defense and better coaching too.

  95. carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:07 PM
    tqaztec says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM
    Montana is 4-0. Break that.
    ———————————————————-
    How many times do these maroons need to be told that you don’t get extra points for losing in the playoffs and failing to reach the SB?

    —————-

    Montana also doesn’t lose points for beating up on AFC tomato cans either, although maybe he should.

  96. idiedpretty says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:06 PM
    In all fairness to Brady*, Montana played with far superior talent than Brady* ever had. Yes, the rules were different but Brady* was/is better at making everyone better. Brady* is the GOAT as is his head coach, Bill Belichik*.

    *GOAT Cheaters

    Wow–you look silly doing that, and worse, you know it.

    The debate’s over, pal. I’m sorry you’re just finding out now.

    Let me guess–when you were younger, you stomped around, holding your hands over your ears and held your breath when you didn’t get the toy you wanted.

  97. tqaztec says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM
    Montana is 4-0. Break that.

    Just did. 5 for Brady, 4 for the great Joe Montana.

    Have you been under a rock since Sunday night? It’s been on the news and everything.

  98. bullcharger says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:18 PM
    carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:07 PM
    tqaztec says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM
    Montana is 4-0. Break that.
    ———————————————————-
    How many times do these maroons need to be told that you don’t get extra points for losing in the playoffs and failing to reach the SB?

    —————-

    Montana also doesn’t lose points for beating up on AFC tomato cans either, although maybe he should.

    —————

    Seeing as the AFC has won 3 of the last 4 SBs I would say that its the NFC that is a bunch of tomato cans….

  99. Funny and everyone including all former nfl players still VOTE EVERY YEAR THEY WILL TAKE JOE COOL MONTANA IN THE SUPERBOWL OVER ANYONE! SO KEEP SHOWING YOUR INFLATED RECORDS YOU TROLLL MEDIA AND FANS!

  100. I wonder how many of those are from cheating? Spygate, deflategate, fans turning on alarms at hotels to get an advantage. Sorry, but not hate just a classless organization.

  101. imsomeguy says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:30 AM
    One record he doesn’t have is being undefeated in SB appearances.
    =========================
    Wrong. He may not have won every SuperBowl he played in. But he was never defeated. Played like the GOAT that he is in every game.

  102. jchipwood says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:16 AM

    He owns a lot more than 11.

    Only qb to throw an int with ball pressure below 10.5.
    Only qb to complete a pass with ball pressure below 10.5 Only qb to attempt a handoff with ball pressure below 10.5
    Etc.

    ===========

    Inaccurate. We’ll never really know since the NFL refuses to release the PSI data or investigate teams like the Colts, Panthers, Vikings and Giants, all who have actually admitted to ball tampering the last several years, where the Pats were completely exonerated by scientists not paid by NFL. Not that I really want the league to check these team out, but it is inconsistent on their part.

  103. bvolke says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:43 AM
    I wish this team hadn’t been caught cheating multiple times. I’d like to enjoy greatness when I see it but I can’t be sure their championship are legitimate.
    ————————————————–
    It’s ok….. You don’t have to enjoy the Pats greatness…..
    Anyone with at least 1/2 a brain stem knows they are legitimate…..
    I guess that just leaves the educated to enjoy the Pats Greatness…..
    there’s always checkers for the less enlightened to stay entertained with…..

  104. superpatriotsfan says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:23 PM

    Another record:

    Most times caught cheating: 2

    =====

    if you’re going to troll at least be accurate. sheesh. Broncos and 49ers are waaay ahead in this regard. Not disputable.

  105. Brady is a social engineering experiment.
    Scripted “reality” for the sheeple.

    George Orwell in ‘1984’: “Films, football, beer, and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult….”

  106. Tom Brady owns 11 Super Bowl records and all Patriot Haters too!

    🙂

    #IOwnAllPatriotHatersToo
    #UrNOTHINGComparedToUS
    #DontForgetThatCupcakes

  107. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM

    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.
    ——————————————————–
    That’s what they said about RGIII after his rookie year. It takes more than one year to be the GOAT. Dak’s just a kid (pun intended).

  108. Don’t be mad Patriot Hater 🙂

    We don’t look down on you because we dislike you. We don’t look down on you out of arrogance or anything like that.

    The truth is we look down on you because we really ARE better than you at everything! 🙂 It’s not personal you know.

    What…. you want us to LIE and pretend we’re not? Don’t be ridiculous.

    🙂

  109. To the people making all the negative comments about Brady.

    The entire football world is laughing in derision at you.

    He’s been acknowledged as the best every by numerous players and coaches from other teams in the last few weeks including by many players that freely admit they hate him and have often said negative things in the past.

    His entire group of professional peers have acknowledged this. Anyone with a functioning brain who passed 6th grade science has acknowledged this.

    While you post your bitter, angry little notes here, just remember all you are doing is humiliating yourself and being a laughingstock. You’re only showing you don’t know much about the game and that you were too poorly educated to understand the world around you.

  110. Tylawspick – still on the “luck” thing huh? We can play that game too. Your team could easily be 3-4.

    Pats fans who answered are missing my point. You’re defensive as always. It doesn’t matter we beat you twice. Sure it’s nice to be the only team to beat you but it’s just rings to us. On the other hand, your team has done something none other has done. There’s no more mountains left (I respect the 19-0 answer-that’s something). The only one left for Brady is beating Eli. I was just wondering whether you cared about that. I wasn’t trolling. But it’s clear some of you still have a regional inferiority complex about ny fans in general.

  111. greenmtnboy31 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM
    “…Sure, except for the Montreal Canadiens”
    ================================
    Be serious. How many Cups did they win while the NHL was a 6 team league?

  112. leatherhelmets says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:42 AM

    Montana played in an era when you could touch the quarterback.
    ————————————————————
    Montana weighed 205 pounds.

    He didn’t stand in the pocket and take shots, he ran around back there like Manziel avoiding hits.

    Let’s not pretend he was Bronco Nagurski.

  113. The only one left for Brady is beating Eli.


    Nah 🙂 Brady does not face Eli head to head.

    Coach Coughlin was the real prize and nemesis. But that ship sailed as you know.

  114. Of course he owns all the bulk records. He’ll never touch Montana’s 127.8 passed rating or attempts without an INT (122) though. Quality > quantity. Go ahead and thumbs down the truth ya bandwagon riders.

  115. Just read some more comments to my query. Man you guys are so defensive. Jeez. Look. I freely admit Brady is the goat. No dispute from me. I’ll even put him ahead of LT now. I’m comfy in my own skin. But for real. If i was a pats fan, I’d be rooting my rear off for Eli to get there so Brady can erase that last blemish. It’s the only blemish he’s got. I’m not trolling.

  116. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:54 PM

    The only one left for Brady is beating Eli. I was just wondering whether you cared about that.
    ————————————————————-
    If Eli can get his team back to the SB we’ll be glad to discuss it, but it seems absurd to even bring it up when the Giants are missing the playoffs, or going 1 and done.

  117. Since the World Champion Patriots whoop the entire league playing straight up can you imagine what the 5 time World Champion Patriots could do if they really did cheat? It would be incredible!

    They would win every game and by a score of 100-0! WOW! I’d LOVE to see that!

    🙂

  118. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:54 PM
    Tylawspick – still on the “luck” thing huh? We can play that game too. Your team could easily be 3-4.

    Pats fans who answered are missing my point. You’re defensive as always. It doesn’t matter we beat you twice. Sure it’s nice to be the only team to beat you but it’s just rings to us. On the other hand, your team has done something none other has done. There’s no more mountains left (I respect the 19-0 answer-that’s something). The only one left for Brady is beating Eli. I was just wondering whether you cared about that. I wasn’t trolling. But it’s clear some of you still have a regional inferiority complex about ny fans in general.

    While this perspective is appreciated, you can’t truly expect Pats fans to believe that you’re puzzled about them being defensive. We’ve been hearing this “lucky” & “cheater” nonsense since 2001. There are trolls whose entire raison d’etre is haranguing pats fans. Let’s not even get into the NFl’s goon squad routine over something that no one cared about since the beginning of football.

    You personally have taken MANY shots along the way. Perhaps if you and your boys backed off a bit they’d be a little less defensive. But we’re fine if you don’t.

  119. PFT loves the Steelers says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:02 PM

    Of course he owns all the bulk records. He’ll never touch Montana’s 127.8 passed rating or attempts without an INT (122) though. Quality > quantity. Go ahead and thumbs down the truth ya bandwagon riders.
    ———————————————————–
    I’m not surprised that a Steeler fan thinks playing well enough to get to only 4 SBs is better than playing well enough to get to 7.

  120. steelcurtainn says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:39 PM
    I wonder how many of those are from cheating? Spygate, deflategate, fans turning on alarms at hotels to get an advantage. Sorry, but not hate just a classless organization.

    You don’t need to wonder, the answer is zero.

    We’ll cut you some slack, you just lost a playoff to NE and your jelly.

  121. charger383 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:30 AM

    Does Roger Goodell have any Super Bowl records?

    ———————–

    Yes, the shortest time spent on a Super Bowl podium and the fastest trophy presentation.

  122. Let’s not pretend he was Bronco Nagurski.

    Let’s not pretend Brady’s as tough as Ben either. And how would you know how tough Montana was….he played before 2000 when Tutu’s weren’t part of a QB’s uniform. Carlos you are stone cold homer who revises history to fit your spin. Brady is the best of the don’t touch the QB era, but he would have retired lona ago if he was allowed to be hit and his receivers had to face the likes of Ronnie Lott or Donnie Shell. So spin your homer revisionist facts if it makes you all warm and fuzzy Gomer the homer.

  123. It really is awkward to read some of these posts from Patriots fans. I don’t think I’ve seen a fanbase live more vicariously through someone else in my life than some of you that post on here for Brady. You’d think you guys were all the GM or head coach of the team with the amount of time you all spend on here.

    Some of you can type as many stats as you want, but please remember you had absolutely nothing to do with these wins over the years. But hey, if it makes you feel better to pretend you’re out there on the field when the Patriots win, go ahead. I have to ask, though – what did you all do before the Patriots were successful? Must have been a boring life, and that will continue once the greatest coach, Belichick, retires.

  124. I totally disagree about Rodgers… and PManning… and Marino. Great passers, great players. But, they just didn’t win enough. It’s always about, ‘Didn’t have the coaches, didn’t have the D’, blah. blah. If it’s good enough in the regular season and they get in the playoffs, it’s weak if you don’t get the job done. Brady did.

  125. He is one of the greatest.

    But he is not in the top ten in these key Super Bowl QB stats:

    Career passer rating
    Single game passer rating
    Career YPA
    Game YPA
    Long pass

    Also, a pick-six in a Super Bowl? Hard to get past that. Brady’s team helped bail him out of this one.

  126. Great Caesar’s Ghost says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:28 PM
    He is one of the greatest.

    But he is not in the top ten in these key Super Bowl QB stats:

    Career passer rating
    Single game passer rating
    Career YPA
    Game YPA
    Long pass

    Also, a pick-six in a Super Bowl? Hard to get past that. Brady’s team helped bail him out of this one.

    ———-
    Fortunately he is #1 in the two biggest categories:

    SB Wins: 5
    SB Appearances: 7

    And I’ll throw the following in for good measure:

    SB MVPs: 4

  127. Elway may have the SB pick record but he literally carried 3 Denver teams to the SB that had no business being there. I would take Elway any day as a starter over Brady* and so would 31 present day GMs.

    *Cheater

  128. @justintuckrule

    I can appreciate the logic behind what you’re saying. It would be nice to exorcise those demons. I was perfectly ok with meeting the Giants in the Super Bowl this year if that were to happen. A victory would have truly settled all family business.

    With these most recent Super Bowl victories though, the ones the Patriots lost to the Giants don’t seem to sting as much. Coughlin is gone, as are most of those team members, and Eli is just not a guy I can muster up any hatred for. Also, the Giants earned those victories in my mind. Much respect there.

    It’s not out of the realm of possibility that another Giants/Patriots Super Bowl could happen in the next few years. I think we would all welcome the challenge, and the ratings would be through the roof.

  129. Great Caesar’s Ghost says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:28 PM

    He is one of the greatest.

    But he is not in the top ten in these key Super Bowl QB stats:

    Career passer rating
    Single game passer rating
    Career YPA
    Game YPA
    Long pass

    Also, a pick-six in a Super Bowl? Hard to get past that. Brady’s team helped bail him out of this one.

    =============

    Longest pass? what is this a punt/pass and kick competition? who cares about that or the others when the point is to win the game? Its about winning and when the stakes are the highest, and you need just one more scoring drive to win, ( or in the case Sunday SIX of them)Brady is unquestionably the greatest postseason quarterback of all time.

  130. You don’t need to wonder, the answer is zero.

    We’ll cut you some slack, you just lost a playoff to NE and your jelly.
    __________________________
    I’m not sour, The Steelers have more superbowl trophies then any team in the league, why would I or any Steeler fan be jelly? The Steelers have been there and done that and been on top for years. They will win again and claim #7. Atlanta should be jelly as u say, they had new england beat until the coaching staff crumbled at the end of the game.

  131. justintuckrule says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:54 PM

    The only one left for Brady is beating Eli. I was just wondering whether you cared about that.

    ———

    this seems to be more important to you than it does to us.

    it’s kind of like the 18-1 comment people make. like that is supposed to sting us 8 years later? the thing is, the Pats have had a legit shot at winning the SB in pretty much every year since then, and we appreciate the success that makes that possible. so why dwell on 18-1?….we don’t.

    Maybe if that was the last time the Pats made the playoffs we’d dwell on it…..who knows. I wasn’t, so we don’t.

  132. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:24 PM
    Let’s not pretend he was Bronco Nagurski.

    Let’s not pretend Brady’s as tough as Ben either.

    Don’t need to pretend, Brady gets hit more and leaves games less. Let’s compare how many games Ben has missed compared to Brady. Brady left the steeler playoff game in which NE backup Bledsoe beat the steelers. he missed 16 games in 08 when his knee was injured in the first game. I don’t recall him missing another until 4 games were stolen from him by cowardly liars.
    Ben missed 16 games over his career, one injury at a time. I’d say Ben is far more breakable.

    He’s tough only due to his size. But Edelman is tougher than both of them.

  133. Great Caesar’s Ghost says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:28 PM
    He is one of the greatest.

    But he is not in the top ten in these key Super Bowl QB stats:

    Career passer rating
    Single game passer rating
    Career YPA
    Game YPA
    Long pass

    Also, a pick-six in a Super Bowl? Hard to get past that. Brady’s team helped bail him out of this one.

    He did get past the pick-six though, weren’t you watching? 466 yards passing, 31 unanswered points, the Victory (only stat that matters) and another SB MVP.

    Also, did you actually just mention “long pass” as an important stat?

    Some things you value just don’t matter at all when you think about wins and losses.

  134. Elway v Brady*

    Better arm: 7
    Better mobility: 7
    Better escability: 7
    Better extension of plays: 7
    Better runner: 7
    Better ability to throw across the grain: 7
    Better cheater: 12

    AM I LYING?

  135. He doesn’t deserve his first SB MVP. How do you complete 16 passes for 145 and named the MVP? The Defense is what won it. MVP should have been Ty Law.

  136. WasLemmytoocontroversial? | Feb 7, 2017, 1:49 PM EST
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:24 PM
    Let’s not pretend he was Bronco Nagurski.

    Let’s not pretend Brady’s as tough as Ben either.

    Don’t need to pretend, Brady gets hit more and leaves games less. Let’s compare how many games Ben has missed compared to Brady. Brady left the steeler playoff game in which NE backup Bledsoe beat the steelers. he missed 16 games in 08 when his knee was injured in the first game. I don’t recall him missing another until 4 games were stolen from him by cowardly liars.
    Ben missed 16 games over his career, one injury at a time. I’d say Ben is far more breakable.

    He’s tough only due to his size. But Edelman is tougher than both of them.

    What? Brady gets hit more? Please child get a grip Ben’s been sacked over 400 times in his career……but hey you homers are the best cherry pickers on PFT.

  137. Elway v Brady*

    Better arm: 7
    Better mobility: 7
    Better escability: 7
    Better extension of plays: 7
    Better runner: 7
    Better ability to throw across the grain: 7
    Better cheater: 12

    AM I LYING?

    0 1

    Elway was the better cheater without a doubt.

    Brady’s “cheating” was the completely fabricated invented kind because teams aren’t man enough to beat the Patriots on the field so the league stepped in. Doesn’t really count does it cupcake 🙂

    Elway on the other hand won* two Super Bowls from genuine cheating which actually happened..his team shamelessly and blatantly violating the salary cap, which they were punished for. Without cheating he wouldn’t have won squat.

    It ain’t rocket science.

    And don’t forget 🙂 The Denver Broncos are the only team in the history of the National Football League to be fined for taping another team’s practices.

    #PatriotHaterGotOwnedAgain
    #UAreNotInOURLeague
    #UrNOTHINGComparedToUS

  138. RIGHT NOW ON NFL NETWORK THEIR AIRING A SB 36 SHOW….YA KNOW THE ONE WHERE THE PATS DYNASTY BEGAN?
    ALL YOU HATERS CAN GO WATCH IT AND RELIVE THE GLORY OF WHAT YOU’RE ALL SO PO’ED ABOUT ALL THE TIME

    BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    HOPEFULLY, CRYBABY MARSHALL FAULK IS IN STUDIO WATCHING HIS TEAM FAIL AGAINST THE UPSTART NE PATS!!!
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

    SUCK IT HATERS!!!!!!!!!

  139. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:07 PM
    He doesn’t deserve his first SB MVP. How do you complete 16 passes for 145 and named the MVP? The Defense is what won it. MVP should have been Ty Law.

    —-

    See the last 100 seconds of that game for your answer.

    🙂

  140. 2016 super bowl world champion New England Patriots! Greatest dynasty with greatest coach and quarterback ever. Every one is confirming it……………….And Brady and Gronk are coming back next year. Can you say repeat? They are already heavy favorites. What a great season and super bowl. Ripped the hearts out of so many. And we won. …….AGAIN.

  141. idiedpretty says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:01 PM
    Elway v Brady*

    Better arm: 7
    Better mobility: 7
    Better escability: 7
    Better extension of plays: 7
    Better runner: 7
    Better ability to throw across the grain: 7
    Better cheater: 12

    AM I LYING?

    It’s not whether you’re “lying” or not. It’s just that you’re asking the wrong questions. Only one question is valid, the rest are window-dressing:

    Better winner: Tom Brady

  142. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:16 PM
    spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:07 PM
    He doesn’t deserve his first SB MVP. How do you complete 16 passes for 145 and named the MVP? The Defense is what won it. MVP should have been Ty Law.

    —-

    See the last 100 seconds of that game for your answer.

    🙂
    ———
    Hold your horses buster. Pats fans have been arguing the opposite about Eli not being the MVP. If you’re gonna take the position that one can become the MVP at the end of the game, you need to be consistent here.

  143. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:24 PM

    Let’s not pretend Brady’s as tough as Ben either. And how would you know how tough Montana was….he played before 2000 when Tutu’s weren’t part of a QB’s uniform. Carlos you are stone cold homer who revises history to fit your spin. Brady is the best of the don’t touch the QB era, but he would have retired lona ago if he was allowed to be hit and his receivers had to face the likes of Ronnie Lott or Donnie Shell. So spin your homer revisionist facts if it makes you all warm and fuzzy Gomer the homer.
    ————————————————————–
    What makes me all warm and fuzzy is watching the Patriots humiliate the Steelers in another AFC title game and then winning a 5th SB. I’m less interested in talking about Donnie Shell since he retired 40 years ago.

  144. Good list. Here’s two you missed:

    Oldest Quarterback to start and to win, 39
    (tied with Payton)

    Most safeties in a game – 1
    (intentional grounding – XLVI).. really seems like anyone could have a share of this record if they wanted it.

  145. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:07 PM
    He doesn’t deserve his first SB MVP. How do you complete 16 passes for 145 and named the MVP? The Defense is what won it. MVP should have been Ty Law.
    ————————————————————-

    Ty Law would have been a fine choice as MVP of that first Pats Super Bowl win but, do we think he really cares?

    If so, he has never said anything.

    I am certain Tom Brady does not care, all he cares about is helping his team win Super Bowls; screw the stats, other than winning, and awards. If someone wants to retroactively give the award to Law I am sure Brady will be fine with that, and Brady will even throw in a new car.

    Maybe Brady liked the MVP vehicle he got back in 2002 because he was probably “only” making 250,000 or so back then, so I will give you that…

  146. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:12 PM
    WasLemmytoocontroversial? | Feb 7, 2017, 1:49 PM EST
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:24 PM
    Let’s not pretend he was Bronco Nagurski.

    Let’s not pretend Brady’s as tough as Ben either.

    Don’t need to pretend, Brady gets hit more and leaves games less. Let’s compare how many games Ben has missed compared to Brady. Brady left the steeler playoff game in which NE backup Bledsoe beat the steelers. he missed 16 games in 08 when his knee was injured in the first game. I don’t recall him missing another until 4 games were stolen from him by cowardly liars.
    Ben missed 16 games over his career, one injury at a time. I’d say Ben is far more breakable.

    He’s tough only due to his size. But Edelman is tougher than both of them.

    What? Brady gets hit more? Please child get a grip Ben’s been sacked over 400 times in his career……but hey you homers are the best cherry pickers on PFT.

    Cherry picking indeed, Brady has taken 417 sacks, Ben has taken 456, big whoop. In 2016 Brady was hit 19 times, Ben only 4. Ben was sacked twice to Brady’s 9. (from NFL’s website btw). How many times did Ben get carted off compared to Brady?

    I can do this all day but go ahead and believe your guy is tougher if it get’s you over the last playoff game.

  147. steelcurtainn says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:48 PM
    You don’t need to wonder, the answer is zero.

    We’ll cut you some slack, you just lost a playoff to NE and your jelly.
    __________________________
    I’m not sour, The Steelers have more superbowl trophies then any team in the league, why would I or any Steeler fan be jelly?

    I dunno but you spend a LOT of time here bustin agates on pats fans. I’d think that if you were all comfy with 6 Lombardis that you’d be a bit more laid back.

    And that 6 thing, who knows, as Sox fans used to say, maybe next year?

    I love the Pats Steelers matchups. I hope Ben & Brady play 10 more years. I was very worried about this year’s playoff game becuase I know what Steelers can do. I could do without the vitriol, from pats or Steelers fans. I (mostly) only jump on comments that are out of line or just plain ridiculous.

  148. Congrats to Tom Brady and the NE Patriots. What they have done with Tom and Bill is truly remarkable in this day and age of football.

  149. Hold your horses buster. Pats fans have been arguing the opposite about Eli not being the MVP. If you’re gonna take the position that one can become the MVP at the end of the game, you need to be consistent here.

    —-
    Who was talking about Eli? I was answering a question about Brady being MVP in 36…. and that was the reason why. 🙂

  150. nhpats says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:31 PM
    bullcharger says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:18 PM
    carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:07 PM
    tqaztec says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM
    Montana is 4-0. Break that.
    ———————————————————-
    How many times do these maroons need to be told that you don’t get extra points for losing in the playoffs and failing to reach the SB?
    —————-
    Montana also doesn’t lose points for beating up on AFC tomato cans either, although maybe he should.
    —————
    Seeing as the AFC has won 3 of the last 4 SBs I would say that its the NFC that is a bunch of tomato cans….

    ———–

    I’m talking about the 1980’s. The NFC had a big advantage when Montana stepped on the field in those years. I am saying if he made the Super Bowl in those years he was going to win. Hence 4-0 in Super Bowls, but he only made 4 in however many years he played.

  151. Not sure why this guy is getting downvoted. Even the last drive probably should have been short circuited with an obvious grounding call when Brady was under pressure, in the pocket and threw the ball away to no one.

    Other than that game though, not much to nitpick in his Super Bowl games.

    ——————————————–
    spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 2:07 PM

    He doesn’t deserve his first SB MVP. How do you complete 16 passes for 145 and named the MVP? The Defense is what won it. MVP should have been Ty Law.

  152. bullcharger says:
    Feb 7, 2017 4:55 PM
    nhpats says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:31 PM
    bullcharger says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:18 PM
    carloswlassiter says:
    Feb 7, 2017 12:07 PM
    tqaztec says:
    Feb 7, 2017 11:48 AM
    Montana is 4-0. Break that.
    ———————————————————-
    How many times do these maroons need to be told that you don’t get extra points for losing in the playoffs and failing to reach the SB?
    —————-
    Montana also doesn’t lose points for beating up on AFC tomato cans either, although maybe he should.
    —————
    Seeing as the AFC has won 3 of the last 4 SBs I would say that its the NFC that is a bunch of tomato cans….
    ———–
    I’m talking about the 1980’s. The NFC had a big advantage when Montana stepped on the field in those years. I am saying if he made the Super Bowl in those years he was going to win. Hence 4-0 in Super Bowls, but he only made 4 in however many years he played.

    ————

    Just checked it and the NFC won 15 out of 16 Super Bowls from 1982 to 1997. So it kind of backs up my point that the NFC was expected to win if they made the big game in those years.

  153. PFT loves the Steelers says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:02 PM
    Of course he owns all the bulk records. He’ll never touch Montana’s 127.8 passed rating or attempts without an INT (122) though. Quality > quantity. Go ahead and thumbs down the truth ya bandwagon riders.

    ————————–

    Montana performed well in those games. The competition was suspect though. NFC won 15 out of 16 Super Bowls in that stretch but Montana only made 4 games. The AFC were pretty bad until Elway and Davis got going. Montana had those games won when he showed up. Brady does the same thing when he goes against lessor teams. Look what he’s been doing to Indy since Manning left.

  154. Growing up in the 90’s I never met ONE Pats fan. Now, I walk down the street and they’re everywhere. Never seen such a group of bandwagoners in my life. You’re all puffing your chests out like you were there during the rough years. You know, before you cheated and won illegitimate titles. Is Brady the best ever? Absolutely not. He’s the 1919 Sox. Part of a group of cheaters that tainted their sport. Can’t wait until that shady organization goes away.

  155. bvolke says:
    Feb 7, 2017 5:08 PM
    Growing up in the 90’s I never met ONE Pats fan. Now, I walk down the street and they’re everywhere. Never seen such a group of bandwagoners in my life. You’re all puffing your chests out like you were there during the rough years. You know, before you cheated and won illegitimate titles. Is Brady the best ever? Absolutely not. He’s the 1919 Sox. Part of a group of cheaters that tainted their sport. Can’t wait until that shady organization goes away.

    Well we saw you coming and hid.

    Better find a seat, we ain’t goin nowhere soon. Been here since 1960’s so wrong again champ.

  156. gmen05 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:26 PM
    It really is awkward to read some of these posts from Patriots fans. I don’t think I’ve seen a fanbase live more vicariously through someone else in my life than some of you that post on here for Brady.

    says GMEN05

    vicarious much?

  157. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 4:37 PM
    “The greatest SYSTEM QB of all time. Those who try to deny it, don’t know football.”

    Without a great QB, there is no great system. Chicken or the egg.

    You lose.

    PS – adopting a screen name so you can troll Patriots threads disqualifies anyone from being taken seriously.

  158. spreadems says:
    Feb 7, 2017 9:42 AM
    He will just be in Dak’s shadow in a few years. Dak will go down as the GOAT.
    Dak’s first season:
    67.8 Completion % (Brady has only had higher than this once)
    104.9 QBR (Brady has only had higher than this 4 times)
    23-4 TD/INT ratio
    3667 pass yards
    286-6 rush yard/TD ratio
    Brady’s first actual season:
    63.9 Completion % (haha)
    86.5 QBR (hahaha)
    18-12 TD/INT ratio (yikes)
    2843 passing yards
    43-0 rush yards/TD ratio
    ==================================
    Sure, you can always tell how great a QB will be after his first season. Ask Robert Griffin III (hahaha).

  159. I love the remaining haters flailing away like a blindfolded 12yr old at a pinada. They just have nothing left.

  160. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:24 PM

    Brady is the best of the don’t touch the QB era, but he would have retired lona ago if he was allowed to be hit and his receivers had to face the likes of Ronnie Lott or Donnie Shell.
    ————————————————————
    My apoligies to NoFoolNoDrool. I said earlier that Donnie Shell retired 40 years ago. I was wrong. It was actually 29 years. But I also looked up Shell.

    He was 5’11” and weighed 190 pounds. And you’re saying that Brady would have retired if he had to face him? A 190 pound safety doesn’t even make an NFL roster these days, and isn’t quite as much of a threat as Kam Chancellor and the other guys Brady has actually had to play against.

  161. bvolke says:
    Feb 7, 2017 5:08 PM
    Growing up in the 90’s I never met ONE Pats fan.

    —-

    I’m guessing you didn’t grow up in New England then.

    I didn’t meet any Rams fans growing up. Or Cowboys fans or Broncos fans or fans of any teams other than the Patriots (except I met some Giants fans when I moved to Connecticut).

    In the 90s there were plenty of Patriots fans. Parcells took them to a Super Bowl after all. Before Parcells there were some lean years, but during the John Hannah/Steve Grogan years they also had some success, though not at the Super Bowl level.

    The Patriots are the youngest of Boston’s 4 pro franchises. They might still not have as big of a fan base as the Red Sox, and both the Celtics and Bruins have storied histories, too. The Pats didn’t really start getting momentum until the Parcells years, and Belichick, obviously, took them to a whole new level.

    oh, right. You’re one of those brilliant diamonds who still think the Pats win by cheating. Yeah, whatever. The Earth is flat, evolution is myth, and the climate isn’t warming (don’t look at the disappearing glaciers!)
    Feel free to believe whatever you want to believe.

  162. Just checked it and the NFC won 15 out of 16 Super Bowls from 1982 to 1997.

    We are lucky to live in an era of competitive Super Bowls. For the young’uns out there, watching the AFC get its butt kicked every year simply was not fun. That was part of the reason the halftime show and the ads started getting hyped – the games themselves were dreadful.

  163. leatherface2012 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:02 AM
    can’t help it………..packer fans insist Rodgers holds every super bowl record..bwhahahaha
    ===================================
    Show us a post where anyone is saying this about Aaron Rodgers or any other QB. We’ll wait.

  164. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 4:37 PM
    The greatest SYSTEM QB of all time. Those who try to deny it, don’t know football.
    ===================================
    You’re aware that teams have been running offensive systems for decades, correct?

  165. eagleslayer says:
    Feb 7, 2017 10:50 AM
    It’s funny when fans who never saw Joe Montana think Tom Brady is the best Super Bowl QB ever.

    You kids today are just too funny.

    ——————————

    Well son, you never saw Unitas it looks like. And a few others deserving of great honors. But having seen it all, at this point Brady has surpassed them. Someday someone will surpass Brady too and I hope to be lucky enough see it in my life time. But now today, its Brady.

  166. fjw2 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 5:26 PM
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 4:37 PM
    “The greatest SYSTEM QB of all time. Those who try to deny it, don’t know football.”

    Without a great QB, there is no great system. Chicken or the egg.

    You lose.

    —————

    The system was great with Matt Cassel, Garoppolo, and Brissette. No need to diminish the Patriots system in an attempt to elevate Brady.

  167. Give it up. The season is over. The Pats just won their 5th Championship. Not only is there no light at the end of the tunnel, the jets haven’t even found the entrance. It’ll be years. Find a more productive hobby.

  168. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 6:11 PM
    fjw2 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 5:26 PM
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 4:37 PM
    “The greatest SYSTEM QB of all time. Those who try to deny it, don’t know football.”
    Without a great QB, there is no great system. Chicken or the egg.
    You lose.
    —————
    The system was great with Matt Cassel, Garoppolo, and Brissette. No need to diminish the Patriots system in an attempt to elevate Brady.
    ==================================
    Uh-huh. So great that with Brady, the team went 16-0 and went to the Super Bowl prior to Cassel’s 11-5 year when they missed the playoffs.

    Garropolo was able to throw 1 TD against a good Cardinal defense, and 3 against the Dolphins 25th rated pass defense.

    Then Brisette went 1-1 and threw 0 TD’s in his 2 starts. The Pats beat the Texans 27-0 while Brisette threw for 103 yards and zero TD’s and then lost to Buffalo 16-0. It’s fun to try and find exceptions to the rule, but it’s a bummer when you fall on your face trying to do it.

  169. bvolke says:
    Feb 7, 2017 5:08 PM
    Growing up in the 90’s I never met ONE Pats fan. Now, I walk down the street and they’re everywhere. Never seen such a group of bandwagoners in my life. You’re all puffing your chests out like you were there during the rough years. You know, before you cheated and won illegitimate titles. Is Brady the best ever? Absolutely not. He’s the 1919 Sox. Part of a group of cheaters that tainted their sport. Can’t wait until that shady organization goes away.
    —-
    Bills fan huh? 🙂

    Hey wanna hear a Buffalo Bills joke?

    Tyrod Taylor! AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA THATS SO FUNNY HAHAHAHJAJAJAJA

  170. Are you rooting for the Giants to get there so he can get that monkey (the only monkey left) off his back

    With Brady’s age and what’s going on in Dallas right now, I think we’ve little chance of that.

  171. frank booth says:
    Feb 7, 2017 6:23 PM
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 6:11 PM
    fjw2 says:
    Feb 7, 2017 5:26 PM
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 7, 2017 4:37 PM
    “The greatest SYSTEM QB of all time. Those who try to deny it, don’t know football.”
    Without a great QB, there is no great system. Chicken or the egg.
    You lose.
    —————
    The system was great with Matt Cassel, Garoppolo, and Brissette. No need to diminish the Patriots system in an attempt to elevate Brady.
    ==================================
    Uh-huh. So great that with Brady, the team went 16-0 and went to the Super Bowl prior to Cassel’s 11-5 year when they missed the playoffs.

    Garropolo was able to throw 1 TD against a good Cardinal defense, and 3 against the Dolphins 25th rated pass defense.

    Then Brisette went 1-1 and threw 0 TD’s in his 2 starts. The Pats beat the Texans 27-0 while Brisette threw for 103 yards and zero TD’s and then lost to Buffalo 16-0. It’s fun to try and find exceptions to the rule, but it’s a bummer when you fall on your face trying to do it.

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    Hey guys, when you want to play the ‘system qb’ card can you at least be specific which of the many systems Brady has excelled in you are talking about. I mean, the guy has been on this tear for 17 years now and the Patriots system has constantly changed to fit the roster as it stood each year. So when you just say ‘system’ no one can know what you are talking about. Or if you dont know the answer yourself even maybe you need a different argument.

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    Who was talking about Eli? I was answering a question about Brady being MVP in 36…. and that was the reason why. 🙂
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    So why can Brady be an MVP for the last 2 minutes of 36 but Eli can’t be MVP for the last 2 minutes of 42 and 46?? Especially 42 when he drove the field to upset an all time great team?

    And before you play the luck card, Brady was lucky as Eli vs atl. The Edelman pass should have been picked. He also took an arguable game clinching grounding in the EZ on the first play of the tying drive. Watch that play. That play was more egregious than the IG he took vs ny in 46. Be consistent.

  173. idiedpretty says:
    Feb 7, 2017 1:39 PM

    Elway may have the SB pick record but he literally carried 3 Denver teams to the SB that had no business being there. I would take Elway any day as a starter over Brady* and so would 31 present day GMs.
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    This is definitely my favorite comment in this article.

    This guy would choose Elway over Brady, AND he thinks everyone else including 31 NFL GMs agree with him.

    Elway isn’t even remotely in the conversation accept for blind faith Bronco fans who are all on their Bronco blogs claiming SB 49 and SB51 was rigged for the Patriots, but SB50 was legit competition since Denver one.

    Suck it up, give some credit to the GOAT and stop with this nonsense.

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