Packers shareholders can buy more worthless stuff

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From time to time, the Packers sell shares of stock to the general public. And while they technically represent a sliver of ownership of the franchise, even though “[s]tock in the Packers does not constitute ‘stock’ in the common sense of the term.”

Still, plenty of fans will buy what essentially is a glorified piece of memorabilia. Apparently, they’ll even buy even more meaningless pieces of glorified memorabilia commemorating their original piece of glorified memorabilia.

The Packers have made available to current shareholders a “collectible document” that is, essentially, a photograph with an inscription that confirms their separate ownership of a share of non-stock stock.

“In previous years, the Packers have received numerous requests from Shareholders for a duplicate copy of a single stock certificate to be printed in order to showcase their ownership in multiple locations,” the team explains. “Because single shares are prohibited from being duplicated, this document allows Shareholders a way to display their ownership status in more than one place, whether in their home, office or elsewhere.”

The team emphasizes that the $39.95 item (plus shipping and handling) is a “collector’s item” that is “not part of a new stock offering,” and that “[i]t has no value and does not double as a stock certificate.” It’s also available only to current owners of non-stock stock.

Look, people can spend money however they want. Those who have chosen to buy a share of stock that isn’t really a share of stock can buy a piece of paper that also isn’t a share of stock commemorating the fact that they own a share of stock that isn’t really a share of stock.

Meanwhile, it’s amazing that other teams still haven’t come up with a way to sell fans a similar piece of paper that seems to have meaning but actually doesn’t. For plenty of franchises, such money-for-nothing tactics might be the only way to pay for new or renovated stadiums, now that public funds have in most locations dried up.

114 responses to “Packers shareholders can buy more worthless stuff

  1. We will all fall for the “collector’s item” and later claim it is really stock worth something. And not just another donation.

  2. Big PACK guy here. I think it’s shameful the way this organization has been swindling my fellow PACK fans! yuck city, no thanks. As your guy Donny T says, “Cancel order!”. That said, go pack. Time too draft a QB of the future. Go pack go.

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  3. $40+ only for those that have already been duped. Talk about going to the well again.

  4. I mean, I’d rather invest in a team that’s consistently good rather than a team that’s known for heartbreak like Minnesota.

  5. So, let me get this straight. Cheesers who own a worthless piece of paper can now buy an ‘official’ copy of a worthless piece of paper for $40?

    And they call Vikings fans delusional.

  6. Show us on the doll where the Packers fan touched you, Florio.

    The amount of vitriol you spew at Green Bay for letting its fans support the club is astonishing, and the consistency with which you do it is remarkable.

    Why are you so patently against not having a billionaire owner?

  7. hate hate hate. you’ve hammered your agenda on us about how much this disgusts you. we get it.

    every team has its bandwagoners. but if every team also had a core of their fanbase that was unconditionally willing to throw money at their team… then maybe teams wouldn’t be looking to move to the trendiest cities everytime their lease is up.

    shareholders saved the packers more than once. i get the feeling youd’ve prefered they had went under years ago.

  8. Those who have chosen to buy a share of stock that isn’t really a share of stock can buy a piece of paper that also isn’t a share of stock commemorating the fact that they own a share of stock that isn’t really a share of stock.

    ^ This deserves a Pulitzer prize for writing.

  9. Plenty of teams/stadiums “offer” the rights to sit in a seat for 10 NFL games each season. PSL’s are an “invisible ownership” right in addition to already exorbitant season ticket prices. These PSL’s are meaningless for anything other than NFL games… somebody else is YOUR seat for soccer games, tractor pulls, rock concerts and any other event held in that stadium. Team/fan “bonding” occurs most in Green Bay as EVERY other teams’ owner can move the team to a place willing to build them a new stadium.

  10. You sure do remain upset about this model. No one is forcing anyone to purchase anything. No one is threatening to move the team unless they ante up. No one is forcing a tax on the populace. Some folks buy jerseys, which I think look stupid on grown men for the most part. Some buy other garbage. If people buy this that’s their decision and no harm is done.

  11. “I mean, I’d rather invest in a team that’s consistently good rather than a team that’s known for heartbreak like Minnesota”

    -You are not investing. You are donating. Big difference.

  12. Don’t want one, don’t buy one. It’s called free will. This is typical liberal thought that dominates insecure people and dictates that this move is unfair to the people. I might pick up a bakers dozen just cuz.

  13. but if every team also had a core of their fanbase that was unconditionally willing to throw money at their team… then maybe teams wouldn’t be looking to move to the trendiest cities everytime their lease is up.

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    All of the teams have these fans. They’re called Season Ticket Holders.

  14. Stop spewing crap out of your keyboard. The Packers came up with a way for the fans of the team to pay for things like stadium renovation and other team needs. This avoids having to go to the government and have everyone be taxed for it.

    Similar fundraising very much should be used by other teams. Say if they chip in a certain amount in donations to help build a new stadium, they get free entry to fan events, hall-of-fame, a few games a year, etc. There is absolutely no reason other teams should not follow this method.

  15. “The amount of vitriol you spew at Green Bay for letting its fans support the club is astonishing, and the consistency with which you do it is remarkable.”

    -Green Bay ‘letting’ it’s fans support the club. Any club will take a check. No favors here.

  16. “Those who have been duped” Probably written buy some 400 pound dude with a tiny QB # on his chest, and doesn’t know what irony is.

  17. We all recognize that PFT posted this story for the sole purpose of providing a forum for gratuitous cheap shots from the Viking fans. We look at it as the price to be paid for making the playoffs eight years in a row while the Vikings have won exactly one playoff game in the last decade.

    So yes, it is a “glorified piece of memorabilia”, nothing more, nothing less. Still, plenty of Packer fans want this on the wall in their “man cave” and the American capitalistic economy works best when supply meets demand.

    I went to order the Viking’s memorabilia Lombardi trophy and got the old Code 404, broken link. And it doesn’t appear to be fixed any time soon.

  18. You should have just titled this article “Minnesota trolls, look here”.

    And the reason more teams don’t do this is because we are the only team that is publicly held. Kind of hard to sell “fake stock” in a non public company.

  19. Ariani, which would you prefer, the OPTION to buy a $40 piece of paper or being forced to fund your team through tax hikes. Unless you prefer the later (and who the heck would) why don’t you can it.

  20. “Because single shares are prohibited from being duplicated, this document allows Shareholders a way to display their ownership status in more than one place, whether in their home, office or elsewhere.”
    ————
    Why don’t they just make a copy themselves? I make copies of these things all the time and sell them on eBay to Packer fans. The copies look just like the real thing.

  21. Florio why the hatred for the Packer Organization? They emphasize that it is a collectible. How is it any different than selling a jersey ? When people buy a jersey do they actually think it is the same jersey that a player wears ? Do you post these opinions because you know it will get responses from the simple minded, jeffrey, numba, ariani and others?

  22. So, the Packers market something to a portion of their fan base that has shown they are willing to spend their money to directly support their team and it’s derided. But other teams get unwilling taxpayers to open a vein for out of town carpetbagger owners that a New Jersey Superior Court Judge blasted for racketeering in his finding that they acted with “bad faith and evil motive” in defrauding business partners and that’s just good business? Got it.

    A Pats Fan

  23. I got the email – shareholder – and my first thought was to hit “reply” and say, ” Why don’t yall’ fix the defense before I give you any more money.” Knowing it would fall on deaf ears, I deleted the draft. Needless to say, the season was not a “success”. If we did not have Rodgers the team would not win ONE GAME!

  24. You have to hand it to the Vikings. They got their idiot fan base to buy used urinal troughs from the Metrodome. I’m not sure how they’d frame one of those.

  25. When you’re dumb, you’re dumb! And that’s all Packer fans that have ever paid for this Ponzi-esce scheme. Oh but wait, Packers fans comeback to this will be, “how many rings do you have”?

    “You can’t fix stupid” – Ron White

  26. you can always argue that Steelers fans pay for a towel that is supposed to be terrible (might be if they never wash it), but at least they got a towel, which can serve a purpose.

  27. Florio still griping over this? It’s boring, no one cares, even Packers fans don’t care. It just gives the entitled fans some fake endorsement of their self perceived entitlement. Find new material for the off-season, please, thank you.

  28. “whether it’s in their home, office or elsewhere”
    Lol, office? The only “Office” the Packer fans are associated too is either the Welfare Office or the Probation Office.

    I’ll fix it for you:
    “whether in their mobile home, their favorite bar, or their other favorite bar”

  29. Florio; can you please text me all new posts from this thread?

    I do not want to miss one gullible cheese head moron trying to justify and spin their willingness to buy worthless copies of worthless stock.

  30. went to a bar once that had worthless packer stock laminated to the back on the urinal, that’s priceless.

  31. ariani1985 says:
    Feb 9, 2017 12:44 PM
    Hahaha, only the ignorant and foolish fans will buy this toilet paper, otherwise known as turd nation!

    #worthless
    ______________________

    It costs more to put your name on a brick outside the new monstrosity in Minny. Hipocrisy is something vikings fans are experts at practicing but have no knowledge of understanding.

  32. I bet there’s a lot of fans in San Diego and St Louis that would love to buy stock if it meant having a team.

  33. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard for people like Florio to understand (other than willful ignorance). It’s supporting the team. Plain and simple. Show me another fan base that willing support a team because of its traditions and what it means to fandom.

    Have fun subjecting people of the city and state who have no interest in football to a tax to build billionaires their stadiums with panels falling off and roofs that collapse.

    There’s a reason the Packers are in Green Bay. Not Milwaukee or another metro. It seems that’s just too complicated to understand.

    Nice click bait btw.

  34. Florio trolls Packers fans as much as Colin Cowherd.

    Thats it! Florio wants to be Colin Cowherd, its the only way his show will work! Half the time he and “Stats” are arguing, Florio doesnt even understand what “Stats” is trying to say! Its so bad, the dynamic is terrible, his persona is dry, Florio knows he has to be a troll to get clicks and ratings.

    Troll on, Florio!

  35. Public money is ‘dried out’ in one state.

    The NFL is going to shop the Raiders and chargers to Nevada, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Kansas, etc.

  36. It’s not as dumb as getting people to spend money just for the right to spend more money on season tickets.

  37. Florio is a Vikings fan, so there’s that.

    Really, every fan base buys NFL memorabilia that is basically worthless. The NFL is not short of creative ideas to sap the $$ from its fans. No fan base is exempt. You do not need to look further than the sports section of Skymall magazine to know what I’m talking about.

    Can’t criticize this if you own an NFL-team themed high heel shoe (singular) that is a “wine holder”

  38. What with the Winter winds having come and all those piles of additional expensive paper not being actually tied to anything it’s just as well the Packers’ window is closing ultra-fast.

  39. The Packers winning Super Bowl LII at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis next February is going to drive Florio to commit suicide.

  40. “Ownership” by the public keeps the Packers in Green Bay. I find it difficult to argue against that. I would love to own those”worthless” pieces of paper that indicated that my team belonged to me and fellow fans and not an owner like Kronke.

  41. If Jerry could sell fake stock in the Cowboys he’d be a billion dollars richer. Half the country would want to buy it.

  42. Tell ya what, for $25 I will run you a high quality photo copy of my share.

    If I can get more than 10 orders, I can finally start seeing a return on my investment

  43. shareholders saved the packers more than once. i get the feeling youd’ve prefered they had went under years ago.
    ——
    What has saved the Packer since 2003 has been the Packer sales tax in Brown county that has generated $294 million for the Packer organization.

    But keep pretending is was ‘shareholders’ buying not common sense ‘stock’ to make you feel like you are a special snowflake instead of the fact your were duped buy the organization you cherish.

  44. No Packer fan buys one of these stock shares thinking that they’re actually becoming an owner. Fans are aware that it is a novelty item, one that could be hung in a man cave, on the wall, on the mantle, office, anywhere. It’s another way of showing support for your team, no different than a helmet, jersey, poster, or team video yearbook etc. Why is it so difficult for you to understand this?

  45. Well, it could be worse. Just imagine if we had a clever New York criminal owner that managed to shift the entire cost of everything in the world onto our backs. We might even have gotten jacked a BILLION dollars to pay for a McStadium that is literally falling apart as we type.

  46. I love reading all the defensive packer fans who are butt-hurt over an article.

    Glorious why do you hate us…you must hate corporations…oh you’re a Vikings fan…etc etc etc

    Regardless of who wrote it and what was written…it still doesn’t change the fact that packer fans who bought stock are fools.

  47. You know how you laugh inside and shake your head at someone when you see them wearing Ed Hardy or Affliction clothes? You know the type of guy I’m talking about…well that’s the same when you see a packer stock hanging on someone’s wall. Same guy hahahahaha.

  48. What has saved the Packer since 2003 has been the Packer sales tax in Brown county that has generated $294 million for the Packer organization.

    But keep pretending is was ‘shareholders’ buying not common sense ‘stock’ to make you feel like you are a special snowflake instead of the fact your were duped buy the organization you cherish.

    ———–
    You realize they’ve sold stock numerous times since 1923 right?… and yes, those sales have ‘saved’ the franchise in the past.

    Duped? A one time $250 doesn’t dupe anyone. Especially for people that can easily afford ‘throwing the money away’. Nice try though.

  49. Marketing genius 101. Great means by which fans themselves can financially support the Packers without excessively burdening non-fans. 360,000 fans from all over the world volunteered funds for this unique souvenir. Some teams have tried to copy this successful idea by relying on the fans. Take the Legacy Bricks in Minnesota for example. Huge failure, just like the team. The Vikings couldn’t give away 360,000 cheap ballpoint pens if they tried. How did they ever think they had a fan base as loyal and faithful as the Packers? That’s the joke in this thread.

  50. yes we do own our team ….we vote on the who is on the board of directors for the Packer team. The Packer board is made up of local business owners/CEO’s. They are indeed …one of us.

  51. Stellar: comparing loyalty and faithfulness of a franchise by the trinkets and souvniers they buy is ludicrous. Of course, coming from you, thats the norm. YOU are the joke on this thread.

  52. good old fecal performance repeating himself as usual…..must have heard the ball point ben thing about 5 times now…..sucks to get old I guess……

  53. I think buying paper stock is just as stupid as taxpayers funding stadiums. What is funny is how defensive Pack fans are on this thread (who obviously purchased stock) who are trying to make fun of the “idiot” fan base for having to pay cents on the dollar for a new stadium. A stadium that is used multiple times throughout the year for numerous events that include concerts,youth events, super bowls, NCAA basketball championships, X Games, etc. To which Packer fans living locally here in MN will certainly utilize the stadium for those events.

    By Pack fans logic, a Vikings fan can get the same sense in pride of the ole “I helped build this” through taxes as a $250 certificate would.

  54. This is no more ridiculous than an entire state paying 1.6 billion dollars to purchase a Super Bowl along with a claptrap stadium. It’s their only chance to see the words Minnesota and Super Bowl in the same sentence.

  55. Filthy, you must be in the minority. Most packers fans in my part of the state spend their $ on Meth and Heroin.

    Im sure where youre from its PBR, pork rinds, and the latest copy of Big Uns.

  56. threeptplay said:
    Feb 9, 2017 1:44 PM

    The Packers winning Super Bowl LII at US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis next February is going to drive Florio to commit suicide.

    ——————————————————

    If that were a guarantee, Ted Thompson would get very busy in the free agent market this offseason. What better reason to win a SB?

  57. Poke fun all you want, rest of the NFL. You don’t have to buy any shares and you can still be a fan. What the ownership structure does is insure the team cannot move or be sold, and will never have a dicknose billionaire owner (Jerry Jones, ha!). I bet there are a lot of NFL fans out there that would gladly take that structure. St. Louis, Cleveland, LA, Oakland care to come in? Ha!

  58. it is still worth more than any Vikings Super Bowl winning memorabalia… oh wait… there is no such thing as Vikings Super Bowl winning.

  59. So how is buying non-stock any different than buying an “official” team jersey? Have you seen the prices on the more popular jerseys?

  60. I prefer my Crush to be Orange says:
    Feb 9, 2017 1:27 PM
    I bet there’s a lot of fans in San Diego and St Louis that would love to buy stock if it meant having a team.
    —————————–

    I bet there are some people in Minnesota that feel the same way.

  61. The original idea was to issue a commemorative paarticipation certificate for every embarrassing playoff loss. They scrapped that idea, not enough trees in GB.

  62. stellarperformance says:
    Feb 9, 2017 4:23 PM
    You want a joke?

    Wide Left.
    ——
    Wide left indeed. Palmer back to pass, hits Larry Fitzgerald who was LEFT WIDE open….

  63. h0metownzero says:
    Feb 9, 2017 1:55 PM.

    Viking fans buy worthless pieces of paper called “tickets”.
    …….

    +1 !!!!!

  64. No amount of rationalization will enable Packer-hating Viking trolls to accept the logic and magnimity of Packer fans voluntarily supporting the Packers with substantial financial contributions. You can’t find a similar circumstance in sports. The Viking trolls all wish the Vikings could enjoy a similar advantage over their rivals, but it won’t happen. If the Vikings could somehow capitalize on the propensity of their fans to get drunk and pick needless fights, they could pay off McStadium in no time at all.

    So. There’s still hope, because that favorite pasttime likely won’t end anytime soon.

  65. anyone have a picture of this “NON STOCK STOCK “?
    i have a printer it would cost me WAAAYYYYYY LESS
    ———————————-
    Search “Packer Stock” the first result on the image vertical is a 2048 × 1368 jpg of a new stock. Have at it.

    Nobody has less respect for Packer fans than I do expect now it seems for the Green Bay Packers themselves. They are trying to sell photocopies of fake stock to Packer fans just like I do. (Let that sink in.) They are probably LTAO while they do just like I do too.

  66. Not sure which is more amusing and entertaining- the fact that the Packers brass can get away with swindling their fans or these same fans thinking that this is so special to own!

  67. cheeseisfattening says:
    Feb 11, 2017 9:16 PM
    They are trying to sell photocopies of fake stock to Packer fans just like I do.
    ///////////////////////////////////

    Sure you do. If you were selling a photocopy of an official Packer stock certificate as real and promoting it as real, you’d go to jail. I know you think you’re smart, but that would not be smart.

    Have at it!

  68. Sure you do. If you were selling a photocopy of an official Packer stock certificate as real and promoting it as real, you’d go to jail.
    —————
    Ut oh, the fake stock police are coming for me!

  69. cheeseisfattening says:
    Feb 12, 2017 3:31 PM
    “an official Packer stock certificate”
    ————-
    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
    ///////////////////////////////

    I guess to make copies of an official stock certificate, you’re either using one belonging to a friend or relative, or you bought one.

    Congratulations, Packer owner!

  70. or printed one from online. Turns out the Packers are correct that their fans can’t figure out they can print the stock themselves.

    You will have to go to eBay and buy the stock to find out which number I am using. Mention my name and I will give you $10 off.

  71. cheeseisfattening says:
    Feb 12, 2017 7:19 PM
    You will have to go to eBay and buy the stock to find out which number I am using. Mention my name and I will give you $10 off.
    ///////////////////////////////////

    Now you’re really jumping the shark. If it were that easy, the Vikings would’ve tried copying Packer stock and re-selling it long ago. Any rube thinks they can. Look at you, for instance.

  72. Now you’re really jumping the shark.
    ———-
    So you are saying that I have been spectacular on here and my last post was bad and you are predicting it will mark my downfall from spectacular posting?

    Or are just trying to use a phrase that you really understand because you think it makes you sound cool?

  73. jump the shark; def.
    1. informal
    A point at which far-fetched events are included merely for the sake of novelty.

    You’re a trouble-maker. It’s pretty simple.

  74. (of a television series or movie) reach a point at which far-fetched events are included merely for the sake of novelty, indicative of a decline in quality.

    You conveniently left out the end of the definition.

  75. A decline in quality does not infer a high level of quality ever existed. An additional layer of declination is always possible, even for you. Just because you arrogantly think highly of yourself, doesn’t mean anyone else does. I sure don’t.

  76. Seriously? Football fans spend millions on similar useless “stuff” every year. Personalized toddler rompers? Home & Office accessories? How many frozen mugs, foam fingers, handkerchiefs, coins, the list goes on and on and on…I’ve just gotta have those $200 blue-tooth insignia headphones…so I get my certificate, frame it nice and hang it on the wall..why is it such a BFD, because your team doesn’t do it? Half of your teams have never sniffed a Super Bowl victory, but you still buy all their junk each and every year…and your going to judge?

  77. Anybody hear of a high quality color photocopier? You can print all the stock copies you want for $40 + S/H. Nobody cares cause the paper will cost more than the original is worth.

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