Report: Tyrod Taylor unwilling to take less to stay with Bills

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When discussing the future of quarterback Tyrod Taylor in Buffalo, one of the options mentioned is a restructured contract that would keep Taylor on the Bills while letting them avoid the $30 million-plus in guaranteed money called for under his current deal.

The appeal of that option to the Bills is pretty obvious, but it takes two to tango and it doesn’t appear to have the same appeal to Taylor.

Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News reports that Taylor is “unwilling” to restructure his contract to stay with the Bills in a way that would reduce his pay. Carucci adds that Taylor and his agent are “firmly convinced” that they’d be able to land the same money he’s due to make with the Bills — it’s a six-year deal with a $92 million total value with more available via incentives — on the open market.

One team Carucci mentions as a potential bidder is the Browns, who just hired former Bills quarterbacks coach David Lee to fill the same role on their staff. They won’t have a chance to make a bid if the Bills exercise their option on Taylor’s contract, which looks like it might be their only way to keep Taylor at the helm of their offense.

99 responses to “Report: Tyrod Taylor unwilling to take less to stay with Bills

  1. Fine, let him walk. You can only throw screen passes so much before teams catch on. That top 10 ranked offense was at the hands of Gillislee and McCoy. The opponents were more worried about them more than they were about Taylor. They BEGGED him to throw the middle of the field, and he didn’t. It’s why Watkins and Clay have been so insignificant compared to top receivers and tight ends. We need a quarterback that can get those guys the ball. Tyrod couldn’t do that, so it’s time to let him dink and dunk somewhere else.

  2. If you think he’s the franchise, you gotta pay da man! Otherwise, trade him. Keeping an unhappy QB who you aren’t sure of is not a sound base to build on.

  3. Well yeah. Why would anyone take less money to stay in Buffalo? You take less money to get the F out of there.

  4. Taylor has the right to play hardball. He won’t agree to reduce his pay, but he is also overpaid and hasn’t played commensurate with his contract.

    Taylor and his agent won’t get the same deal from any other team, including the hapless Browns. But you continue to play hardball, Taylor. We
    will all see how that works out for you.

  5. He could definitely improve the Browns, he is way better than anyone they have had for years. Jury is out on whether he will be truly top 5 elite, but he can win games for the right team for sure. I agree with his agent, no discount, cut him or honor the contract you gave him.

  6. And there’s no reason he should.

    He’s the best QB they have had in 10 years easily.

    The Bills would be fools to let this guy go.

  7. RELEASE him!! He is in no way worth that contract. He’s as average as they get. In 2 years starting he is “14-14”!! That is the real definition of average.

  8. 15.3/year with only 30 mil guaranteed is peanuts for a functional NFL qb at this point. He’s absolutely right that he’ll get that money elsewhere if the Bills don’t pony up.

    This would be totally idiotic for the Bills without anything approaching a reasonable replacement. Who are they going to get, the newly inspired Vick? Hope EJ magically turns into an NFL QB?

  9. Taylor and his agent are “firmly convinced” that they’d be able to land the same money he’s due to make with the Bills — it’s a six-year deal with a $92 million total value with more available via incentives — on the open market.

    Thanks to you Tyrod, I need to spend the next 10 minutes cleaning coffee that I spit all over my computer screen after reading this part of the article. I’m sure not many teams will be beating down his door begging for a chance to sign him. Now maybe the Browns might, since they have such a great track record signing/drafting QBs.

  10. This is all on Doug Whaley, he gave him that ridiculous contract and Taylor merely accepted it.

    This is the same Doug Whaley that spent a 1st round pick on EJ Manuel and 2 1st round picks on Sammy Watkins.

    Oh, Buffalo. SMH.

  11. He is a top 12 QB right now with potential to get better with competent coaching that the Bills have not had.

    Buffalo would be STUPID to let him walk and he would be stupid to take less to stay.

  12. The $30M guarantee is in the form of a $15.5M Option Bonus, a $12M base salary and a guarantee of $3.25M of his 2018 salary. His cap hit would be $16M in ’17 and never rises higher than the $17.7M in the last year of the deal. The dead cap consequences if they cut him after next year aren’t even all that bad.

  13. wasn’t he like 30th in passing last year? The Browns may be desperate/dumb enough to pay him this amount but I think I would rather restructure possibly take a little less and stay in Buffalo.

  14. He is not worth that. I don’t see any team giving him that even if there is a bidding war. Browns have RG3 so they won’t pay Taylor that much. Where else is he gonna go? Jets? Bills should cut him. I seriously doubt Taylor is worth the difference between his 30 million and what they could pay Manuel. There are backups in the league that can come in to stabilize for a year. Just need someone who takes care of the ball

  15. I agree that Taylor is absolutely worth his current contract. $15M a year, average for his kind of production? Absolutely.

    Now, the question is, do you want $15M tied up in a QB who may not ever get you over 8-8? Or dump him and hope to find someone cheaper, or break the bank for someone who may finally find you that winning season?

  16. Tyrod is in the perfect position. Stay and get paid, or be released and get paid. He’ll be the top 2 or 3 option (depending on what happens with Romo and Cousins?) on the market.

  17. Wow… how in the world did they get roped into offering this contract?
    8/12/2016: Signed a six-year, $92 million contract. Another $23 million is available through incentives. 2017: $12 million (+ $15.5 million option bonus due in March), 2018: $13 million, 2019: $13.6 million, 2020: $13.85 million 2021: $14.55 million, 2022: Free Agent

  18. Will Taylor be able to get another team to pay him $15 million per year if he leaves Buffalo? Ask Brock Osweiler. There are always going to be a couple of QB desperate teams who are looking for the quick fix. It doesn’t matter if any of us think Taylor is worth that much, because that’s about the going rate for even an average starting QB these days. Let’s put it this way: say Buffalo lets him walk… do any of us think the Bills could bring in an experienced starting QB for less than $15 million per year who would be demonstrably better than Taylor?

  19. kneedragr says:
    Feb 10, 2017 8:54 AM
    He could definitely improve the Browns, he is way better than anyone they have had for years. Jury is out on whether he will be truly top 5 elite, but he can win games for the right team for sure. I agree with his agent, no discount, cut him or honor the contract you gave him.

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    and another guy calling him top 12? maybe in the conference.

    Please tell me who you would take off this list in favor of Taylor (in order of divisions)

    brady
    roethlisberger
    flacco
    Dalton
    mariota
    luck
    carr
    rivers
    manning
    cousins
    romo
    dak
    brees
    ryan
    newton
    winston
    rodgers
    stafford
    wilson

    just that obvious list puts him 20th. throw in the arguable guys like wentz, palmer, cutler, tannehill, kaepernick, a. smith, bradford. Taylor is definitely in the bottom third of the league, if not the bottom 8th.

  20. I agree that he should at least listen to the reworked options the Bills offer. They could come up with something that guarantees more in the long run. It’s also in the Bills best interest to consider keeping him. Is he a guy that’s going to carry them to the playoffs this year? Not likely, but he is still a player that is developing and perhaps 2-3 years down the road he is “the guy” responsible for carrying them. I’m glad I’m not the guy responsible for making the decision, it seems that they aren’t going to win anyone over with whatever it is they decide to do.

  21. Only an idiot would blame Taylor for the dysfunction in buffalo. Realy? Watching this year’s super bowl should have shown some of you how big of an affect coaching and playcalling have on the game. Now tell me again who’s been the coach and playcaller that has helped buffalo in the last decade or so. Heck even the ownerds are bumbling,meddling idiots that had the former oc, sitting duck hc sit Tyrod the last game of the season for whatever reason. 15 mil for a competent QB is peanuts, especially in a terrible situation in buffalo, where you can expect the organization to impede rather than help your progress.

  22. joetorontoisaclown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:37 AM
    I ‘d rather finish 2-14 without him, than 7-9 with him. Thanks for your service and good luck Tyrod.

    ———-

    You will likely get your wish. Good for you!

  23. I guess it depends on what you want to accomplish. He is at best the 20th best QB. At best.

    Bills should be in the mode for the US QB

  24. I guess it depends on what you want to accomplish. He is at best the 20th best QB. At best.

    Bills should be in the mode for the US QB

  25. Giving this bum a new deal was a terrible decision. How do I know? They want him to restructure it already. He is another mobile QB that has to use his legs because he can’t stand in the pocket and consistently make throws.

  26. joetorontoisaclown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:37 AM
    I ‘d rather finish 2-14 without him, than 7-9 with him.
    _________________

    No you wouldn’t. Here on PFT maybe you would but sitting in the stands not so much.

  27. Dude didn’t have any healthy receivers last yr that were any good, he’s a solid QB, he’s Alex Smith with a better deep ball if you put weapons around him….15 million for two yrs is a steal and the Bills would be stupid not to pick up….who else will they get to play QB? Good for Taylor, he took less money for two yrs and he’s right he will get at least the same money elsewhere maybe more….and Alex Smith is making 17 million a yr 45 guaranteed…..

  28. Not worth it. Spend the money fixing other gaps and make a can’t-turn-down incentive laden deal for Cutler. Draft a WR and Safety. Playoffs.

  29. Come to Chicago, TyGOD. We’ve got this guy named Alshon Jeffry I’d like you to meet. There’s this other guy named Howard you might like too.

  30. Go out and invest a couple million dollars and bring in some good personnel people who know how to scout QBs, and save the other $28 million. Tyrod Taylor is not an NFL QB.

  31. Jets, niners, bears, browns, maybe broncos, Texans, cards, are possible landing spots. Add in a weak QB draft and Tyrod will be in high demand.

  32. nhpats says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:59 AM
    joetorontoisaclown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:37 AM
    I ‘d rather finish 2-14 without him, than 7-9 with him. Thanks for your service and good luck Tyrod.

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    You will likely get your wish. Good for you!
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    Thanks! Funny thing is guys like you say the Bills will be worst year after year. Instead they are 7-9 or 8-8 annually, which when a team is in desperate need of a QB, is worse. I would think being a Pats fan and claiming being one makes you more knowledgeable, this would be obvious to you.

  33. Sad Bills fans on here have dealt with dysfunction so long they begin to identify with it.

    Even if Tyrod is they guy to win it all for you, the contract he had in place is beyond reasonable for a competent vet starting QB.

    Yes, he will get that money somewhere else, no doubt.

    And the Bills will regret hopping on the QB carousel, no doubt.

    Pay the man, or let him go, or even trade the deal to the Brown for a late pick or something.

    But if you think Tyrod is crazy for sticking to his guns, alright. Lets see how well the Bills fare next seasons without him.

  34. jag1959 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 10:07 AM
    joetorontoisaclown says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:37 AM
    I ‘d rather finish 2-14 without him, than 7-9 with him.
    _________________

    No you wouldn’t. Here on PFT maybe you would but sitting in the stands not so much.
    _________________________________
    Actually. I would. Best chance of getting a capable starting QB for less than $30 mil is in the 1st few picks of the draft. Now go tell someone else what they think.

  35. joetoronto says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:20 AM

    This is all on Doug Whaley, he gave him that ridiculous contract and Taylor merely accepted it.

    This is the same Doug Whaley that spent a 1st round pick on EJ Manuel and 2 1st round picks on Sammy Watkins.

    Oh, Buffalo. SMH.
    __________________________________
    Oh, Joe. SMH. Get a job and stop living off the Canadian Govt.

  36. He’s not a NFL franchise QB and never will be. they’ll continue the longest playoff drought in the NFL as long as he’s part of the problem.

  37. As usual the armchair QB’s who post this site have no clue. Taylor and the offense is not the problem. If Buffalo had a defense and a real coach they are in the playoffs this last season….Taylor will either be re-signed or he will get his money elsewhere. I’d take Taylor and that contract over Osweiller and his contract any day….

  38. fiddlinred says:
    Feb 10, 2017 10:45 AM
    Who cares if he is worth this or that. They offered him a contract and he signed it. This is more about the bills
    _________________________________
    It’s called an “option” for a reason.

  39. dear bills fans, was wondering if you can help me out with something.

    i keep seeing a lot of praise for tyrod with the mention that the bills were a top ten offence.

    your total points scored rank you in tenth, this includes any points scored by the defence which wouldnt have anything to do with your offense

    your total offense ranked 16th
    your total passing offense ranked 30Th!!!!!!!!
    your rushing offense ranked number!

    i think its fair to say you didnt really have top ten offence and however good you think your offense was, was because of your rushing as your passing offense was only ahead of the rams and 49rs,

    one with a shred of logic would say your quarter back was horrible!!

  40. he played well without sammy watkins, and with rex ryan dragging him down.

    tyrod will play even better next year, imho, he has a great demeanor for the position.

    he may be overpaid, but not by 30 mil, probably only by 5-10 mil depending on how he does.

    personally i think it is their Head Coach that will be exposed as average.

  41. Let him go, he hasn’t played to the level of what his contract is worth anyway. Is he the best QB the Bills have had in years……maybe, maybe not. It’s hard to tell when you throw screen passes to your check down every other pass play or run the second the pocket looks like it might collapse. I cannot stand the Patriots but even Tom Brady restructured his contract a couple yeas ago for the betterment of his team, freeing up 24 million in cap space or something like that.

    Can he be the leader of this team, possibly but prove it first.

  42. Tyrod has a cannon for an arm and throws a very accurate long ball. He also has the ability to extend plays with his legs. A little Russell Wilsonesque. But he needs to work on his ability to read defenses pre-snap and make the appropriate changes at the line of scrimmage. He has physical talent…..the question is whether or not he has the cerebral firepower to become a great QB.

  43. Wow what a shocker a player isn’t willing to take less to play in BUFFALO???

    Buffalo, you are not New England players don’t take less so they can hopefully finish 8-8. You need the rings before people will take less.

  44. Bills fans are crazy and/or desperate…you’d rather have Cutler or you’d rather let him walk. His WRs were injured most of the year. The contract might look exorbitant but it’s not.
    But that’s ok, you stay on that QB carousel that’s been going around and around for what is it now…20+ years.
    In the words of Rick Pitino…Jim Kelly’s not walking through that door!

  45. If people held Taylor to the same standards they hold Osweiler, Taylor would long be out of the league. Osweiler takes more flak despite the fact that he has had more success than Taylor.

  46. @patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 10, 2017 12:07 PM

    If people held Taylor to the same standards they hold Osweiler, Taylor would long be out of the league. Osweiler takes more flak despite the fact that he has had more success than Taylor.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What success has Osweiler had? Or better yet, define “success”. If he was that good, O’Brien wouldn’t have benched him.

  47. Draft a future STUD in the early 2nd rd, let him sit and watch for a year and sign some veteran PLUG to play the 2017 season to keep the seat warm for the youngster. That should be the plan. Use the cap savings and beef up the defense and o-line so everything is in place for 2018 when the youngster is ready to go. That would be my plan.

  48. The Bills really painted themselves into a corner, and it’s their own fault. Why sign someone they were so publicly ambivalent about to such a huge contract? Even if they loved him it would be too much to pay.

    So now they have a player who is good enough to keep, who likely gives them their best chance of success, but they’ve created a completely artificial standoff due to the crazy contract. This *should* be a happy time for the team – solid QB coming off a solid season. But instead it’s frowns all around.

    This is a big part of why teams don’t make the playoffs for long stretches. If a team’s leadership is incompetent, coach and QB won’t be enough to overcome it.

    Best of luck to Taylor finding a place where he’s actually appreciated.

  49. Probably the most athletic QB in the league,BUT,cant see over the line,locks in on a receiver,and will run if that receiver is not open.

  50. Bills are playing the Tyrod Taylor situation very, very poorly, being driven by a angry and out of touch fan base, they are driving the message and getting rid of Taylor would be a huge mistake and boon for another team.

  51. I guess everyone is a GM now. Before Tyrod came to town. Buffalo wasn’t winning S&%T… Let’s be real. He may have gave y’all mediocre quarterback play “but it was more consistent then what Buffalo was accustomed to. RESPECT that man.. How can Buffalo fans be so selfish. Plus 15 million is what you pay an average QB.. His character and hunger to be willing to compete in Buffalo week in and week out should set him over the Average QB title.. Y’all so pleasantly give him. Trust me y’all don’t want another Marshawn Lynch situation….He leaves and blows up.. No credit to the Bills.. If not we should already know somebody will pay..

  52. How about this for a re-worked deal. The Bills will pay him $15milluon, and in return, if he doesn’t finish in the top half of the league, or make a playoff start, he gives it back. Seriously. The guy has no leverage other than the fact that the Bills don’t have another option. I would much rather the Bills reach and take Watson than see them pay Tyrod that money. He is a 10-12 guy, not a $15 mil fully guaranteed guy. Crazy, that, during the season all of you “GM’s” rag on how bad he is, yet here we are, saying the Bills are stupid to let him go. The life of an internet troll.

  53. He should rework a good contract and stay with the Bills. NFL has plenty of running QBs and where have they gotten there teams. Most all the QBs that are good can throw the damn ball with accuracy !!! Not running all the time, not a super strong armed big guy, but smart and accurate !! Does anyone see this?

  54. He and his agent are smart men and they know if he hits the open market there will be teams interested in him,Denver,Jets,Cleveland,Bears and the dark horse San fran .What Qb would you want above him that is hitting the market?
    Cousins is fools gold,and the Back up out of New England will flop like ever other player that leaves their system.

  55. bill14224 says:
    Let’s give Cutler a shot I’m sick to death of dink and dunk.


    By mid-October you’d be begging for dink and dunk to return after just a month-and-a-half of Cutler’s panic+picks.

  56. Can someone tell me, do the agents get their cut up front when these big contracts are signed? I am having trouble who benefits when a new contract is no good a year after it is signed. The players never see the money, only the headlines. A year later it is renegotiation time. Who is pushing this system?

  57. What happened to those posters who blast players for “not honoring the contract”?? Teams should be held to the same standard.

  58. Tyrod Taylor is a good quarterback. He’s not great. But he is a solid starting qb. The Bills are idiots. He is just as good as Alex Smith who gets $17 million per season. Look at his stats:
    2015- 14 games
    63.7% completion
    3,037 yards
    7.99 ypa
    20 tds and 6 ints
    Rushing
    568 yards
    4 touchdowns
    5.5 ypc
    2016-15 games
    61.7%
    3,023 yards
    6.93 ypa
    17 tds and 6 ints
    Rushing
    580 yards
    6.1 ypc
    6 touchdowns.

  59. Tyrod had no weapons outside of Shady. It wasn’t long ago he had a very good year. People seem to forget. Who with a brain takes less money to play for a bottom dwellers franchise?

  60. Magikskillz, way to ignore the most important statistic. You can have a statistically mediocre QB paid that much WHEN HE HAS PROVEN TO MAKE STARTS WHERE IT COUNTS. You know, the PLAYOFFS? Alex Smith is in the exact same situation as Tyrod. Sub-Par receiving corp., offense predicated on the run, a solid defense. Maybe Tyrod is the victim of a bad coach in Rex Ryan, but he doesn’t have a leg to stand on as he’s proven absolutely nothing. He had to play 5 quarters to get his first 300+ passing game. Here’s a simple question, would you pay Tavaris Jackson $15 million? Because he is the EXACT same player as Tyrod at this point in his career.

  61. What free agent that’ll be available this yr is better than him? Is there a qb the team could trade for that wouldn’t cost a lot in salary and draft picks. And if so would it be such a upgrade to make it worth it? Is he being paid to much. yeah, but they all are. Even the mediocre ones. Basic economics, supply and demand.

  62. I wouldn’t take less either. Another team would be stupid to offer this guy a contract. He might as well stay in Buffalo and get cut.

  63. For the 80% of Bills fan base that wants to can Tyrod, remember when we’re dealing with Losman2 or Manuel2 and rest of team is solid but we suck and Tyrod is having a decent year that we made him leave for the 20th highest QB salary in the league.

  64. Let’s see…the Bills structured this contract and signed it. This proves the type of organization they are and always have been. Has Overdorf and Bean-counter Littman written all over it.
    There’s nobody better for the Bills to plug in there so suck it up and honor the deal you wrote.

  65. The Pegula`s are desperate to win, Taylor accounts for $2.8M in DM. Buffalo will trade their 2nd round pick in 2017 and 3rd in 2018 for Tony Romo. You heard it here first.

  66. If my Niners can’t get their hands on Garappolo or Cousins I would definitely rather have Taylor over Kaepernick. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pats refuse to trade Garappolo or the Redskins franchise tagged Cousins. So Taylor might be the best QB on the market.

  67. jonwill57 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 12:29 PM
    @patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 10, 2017 12:07 PM

    If people held Taylor to the same standards they hold Osweiler, Taylor would long be out of the league. Osweiler takes more flak despite the fact that he has had more success than Taylor.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What success has Osweiler had? Or better yet, define “success”. If he was that good, O’Brien wouldn’t have benched him.

    ————–

    Playoff wins:

    Osweiler: 1
    Taylor: 0

  68. @patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 10, 2017 9:03 PM

    jonwill57 says:
    Feb 10, 2017 12:29 PM
    @patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 10, 2017 12:07 PM

    If people held Taylor to the same standards they hold Osweiler, Taylor would long be out of the league. Osweiler takes more flak despite the fact that he has had more success than Taylor.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What success has Osweiler had? Or better yet, define “success”. If he was that good, O’Brien wouldn’t have benched him.

    ————–

    Playoff wins:

    Osweiler: 1
    Taylor: 0
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Oh, that one against a depleted Raiders team with Conner Cook making his first start? Well here’s his stellar stat line for that game:

    14 of 25 passes for 168 yards and one touchdown

    His season stats: Osweiler threw for 2,957 yards, 15 touchdowns and 16 interceptions on a 59 % completion rate during the regular season

  69. He deserves mid-level qb pay. 30 mil this year is too much for his production on the field…Taylor is a good qb and i think hes our best option by far. Whaley is to blame for signing that contract.

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