The T.O. false narrative begins to crack

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Hall of Fame voters hopefully can’t wait to get rid of the false “teams couldn’t wait to get rid” of Terrell Owens narrative. One of them already has.

In his Friday appearance on SiriusXM NFL Radio, James Lofton took scissors to the laminated card bearing the most common talking point parroted by his fellow voters.

“‘Teams couldn’t wait to get rid of him,’” Lofton said. “He played for the 49ers for eight years.  So was it in year one when they couldn’t wait to get rid of him?  Was it in year four?  Was it in year six?  Was it when they signed a six-year, $40 million contract with him?  There’s no reality there. Maybe the last couple of weeks or the last half of the last season, maybe. But he was a pretty good teammate. They like the way he played.”

Regardless, concerns about his behavior as a teammate aren’t nearly enough to overcome statistics that put Owens and Randy Moss at No. 2 or No. 3 all-time behind Jerry Rice at the receiver position.

“When I looked down on the 100 by 53 and a third yard wide field, man, I saw a special player,” Lofton, also a Hall of Famer, said. “And I said, I was a good player. I scored 75 touchdowns. Seventy-five. That was a lot. He scored double the touchdowns I scored.”

These scattered, vague, embellished, and/or incomplete concerns about Owens would be far more relevant if his numbers put him on the borderline. They don’t; he belongs in Canton.

Hopefully the cabal of voters who are blocking him will be honest and objective about this. If they can’t be, then maybe they should take a scissors to the laminated “I’m a Hall of Fame voter” card that too many of them think means a hell of a lot more in the grand scheme of things than it actually does.

102 responses to “The T.O. false narrative begins to crack

  1. Finally, someone with some sense. And he’s a HOF’er at the same position. All you nay-sayers, Listen to Lofton and stop believing all the smear-campaign against TO. He doesn’t deserve the games being played on him by the NFL & HOF.

  2. In the end does anyone really doubt he will be enshrined? If some old school guys want to deliver a b slap to one of the ‘me’ guys is that such a bad thing as long as he gets in? If letting him twist makes just one diva pause for a minute then it’s not all bad.

  3. Dan Fouts, who had a career of 86-84-1, and a passer rating of just 80.2 partly because he threw almost as many INTs (242) as TDs (254), and never went deep in the playoffs (3-4) or even at all for 11 of his 15 seasons, has told T.O. that HoF is more than about just stats! – clearly.

  4. Great players almost always help their team win. The one exception is Owens. He was talented, but he caused so many problems that he actually hurt his teams’ chances to win. Every team will put up with a goofball or two, but Owens was different. He literally cost his team wins. That, my friends, is not a HOFer.

  5. He’ll get in. No need to be outraged. If anyone deserve to sweat a little bit it’s him, and I say this and admit that what he did in 04 was one of the most exciting things I’ve ever watched as an Eagles fan.

  6. junkfooddaddy says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:30 PM
    The guy was a cancer to every team he was on. That is one reason his teams never won.
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    He did great in Buffalo. I can only speak on that. I don’t know what you mean every team he was on, his teams never won. 9 of the 15 years he played, his teams had winning seasons. His teams combined 136-104. Looks pretty winning to me.

  7. HOF voters are a joke. Nothing but a group of men who never played sports in their life and a bunch of old, retired players from back in day whose stats are crap compared to today’s players. Dan Fouts is a perfect example. If you don’t believe me Google his stats.

  8. streetyson says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:37 PM
    Dan Fouts, who had a career of 86-84-1, and a passer rating of just 80.2 partly because he threw almost as many INTs (242) as TDs (254), and never went deep in the playoffs (3-4) or even at all for 11 of his 15 seasons, has told T.O. that HoF is more than about just stats! – clearly.
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    True what you wrote.

    However, Fouts was a prolific passer, for his time.

  9. junkfooddaddy says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:30 PM
    The guy was a cancer to every team he was on. That is one reason his teams never won.
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    congratulations buddy, that is definitely the dumbest thing I have heard all week, maybe even all year. Try doing a little research before making yourself sound like an uninformed idiot

  10. T.O. was an amazing player. He deserves to be in the HOF. If the best players aren’t in the hall, it just loses all meaning and becomes irrelevant.

  11. Popcorn, cheerleader’s pom-poms, dancing on the Cowboy’s star and he was a pretty damn good wide receiver too. What’s the hold up HofF committee members? Pretty sure those guys are the buffoons now!

  12. Preface: TO is HOF-worthy.

    But…

    What if I told you the narrative that, “TO was a locker room cancer,” is a false narrative is, itself, false?

    [morpheus.gif]

    He was absolutely toxic after he left SF. That shouldn’t keep him out of the HOF though.

  13. Thanks for bringing this travesty into the light and exposing the hypocrisy. Maybe we’ll get changes to the HOF voters and the voting process. This ridiculous popularity contest must end.

  14. Lofton is right in that T.O was a much better player than James Lofton ever was.

    Which leads me to ask: How did James Lofton ever get in?

  15. I’m not saying he doesn’t have the stats to be in the HOF, but the dude was a cancer everywhere he went. That went double if you were throwing the ball to him. Ask Jeff Garcia and Donovan McNabb.

    If you act like a dick you can expect there to be consequences.

    /The More You Know.

  16. I do get a kick out Mike getting all indignant about TO’s predicament, but be damn sure if PFT was around during the last 5-6 years TO’s career one can only imagine the sensational headlines re: his actions. Get off the high horse Mike.

  17. No matter how big of an idiot T.O. turned out to be at the end of his career… his numbers have no reason to keep him out of the H.O.F. Canton needs to grip up. DON’T BECOME BASEBALL.
    It’s not like he was a criminal.
    The Hall Of Fame should never become a popularity contest.

  18. I love it when former NFL players who weren’t choir boys in the NFL themselves come to the defense of jerks like T.O.
    Let’s not forget that Lofton was accused not once — but twice — of sexual misconduct with two different women while he was with the Packers. He was acquitted both times.
    In the first case, he and another teammate were accused of sexually assaulting a nightclub dancer — was not pursued because the D.A. didn’t think there was enough evidence to gain a conviction.
    And in the 2nd case, it was his word against the woman’s word that it was consensual. But he admitted he had her perform a sexual act on him in a stairwell.
    He was married at the time of these incidents, by the way.

    The point is, Lofton might have beaten these accusations because of his celebrity status. In any case, it caused the Packers to dump him for little in return.
    Lofton was a great player and had he stayed in GB, he’d have been their 2nd best WR of all time (Don Hutson is their first). But his actions caused them to dump him.
    So anything he says about T.O. has little credibility to me.

  19. Dan Fouts was a cancer to every team he was on. That is why his teams lost, he finished with a .500 record, and never made it to a Superbowl. He made the players around him a lot worse. The Chargers could not wait to get rid of him, but there were simply no takers so they kept him and kept losing. They would have taken a conditional 7th round pick for him, or just moved up a few spots within the 7th round, but nobody was offering. That was great for him because the smaller media market in San Diego was ideal for his thin skin. He only played 16 games during 3 years in his entire career, because he was pampered and would not dare play hurt like TO did.

  20. McNabb thrown under the bus, Garcia thrown under the bus, Romo thrown under the bus, Reid thrown under the bus……

  21. I’m pretty sure the narrative is that he was often times a jerk and a bad teammate and you’re twisting that into one specific phrase that “teams couldn’t wait to get rid of him” which isn’t nearly as accurate. In fact I’m positive that’s what’s happening.

  22. HOF voters are a joke. There is no way to sugarcoat this.
    Charles Haley was a bad teammate on the 49ers, he did unmentionable things, yet he is in the HOF.
    As many have pointed out, there are murderers, folks of very questionable character etc. in the HOF, but to keep T.O. out for whatever reasons are perceived by the HOF voters?

    Keep up the good fight PFT.

  23. Dan Fouts, who had a career of 86-84-1, and a passer rating of just 80.2 partly because he threw almost as many INTs (242) as TDs (254), and never went deep in the playoffs (3-4) or even at all for 11 of his 15 seasons, has told T.O. that HoF is more than about just stats! – clearly.
    ______________

    Different era, kid. An 80.2 passer rating was solid back in Fouts’ day, and Fouts was posting big passing numbers when few others were. Agree on TO though, he needs to be in the HOF.

  24. Man, the dude was the 2nd best wide receiver in the NFL while being diagnosed with a mental illness!
    Heck, 1 in 100 million of us could barely match his prowess on the field WITHOUT a mental illness.
    Basically, the HoF voters are saying if you have a messed up head, your no HoFer. Personally, I think the HoF voters have messed up heads for not voting him in. They need psychiatric help…no doubt many of them were on PEDs back in the day. Shameful.

  25. I don’t think he became truly obnoxious and a team killer until he left the 49ers.

    Let’s not forget that TO insinuated that Garcia was gay when he left the 49ers, then he goes to Philly and blames McNabb for everything, when the ownership chastised him, then he blamed the ownership for the problems, etc, etc…

  26. Terrell Owen’s, Joe Horn, and Chad Johnson were torn apart by the NFL for their end zone celebrations. Meanwhile a man on time charged with a double homicide was the face of the NFL. Makes perfect sense.

  27. Everything related to the NFL has the same issue. The decision makers are idiots, egomaniacs, who think they’re the smartest person in the room when they’re usually the dumbest.

  28. When did the Hall of Fame suddenly get so picky ?????

    If T.O. Doesn’t get in….then many players don’t deserve to be in…

    Sure…he was a jerk….but you mean to tell me he was worse than Michael Irvin ????

    Worse than Warren Sapp ??????????

    Come on….. this is stupid, he belongs in, and until he is rightfully included, it’s going to spoil every hall of fame ceremony for every player that gets in until he does…..because that’s all everybody talks about.

  29. Look – there’s a time to mock all the mockable aspects that make T.O., T.O. I know I love to do that!

    But damn – look at those stats. He should be in. PERIOD.

    I’d be all over T.O. for being a whiny baby if that’s what he was.

    He’s 100% right here. If T.O. isn’t in the Hall of Fame there’s something wrong with the Hall of Fame selection process.

    There’s no other way to say it.

  30. Nothing says he won’t get in sometime in the next few years. Just because he didn’t get voted in the first couple opportunities oh boo hoo.

  31. I think T.O should be in the hall of fame – he’s great with the sharpie signing after touchdowns, he can shake those pom-pom with cheerleaders, and he can down a cup of pop-corn after touchdown. He’s In.

  32. He will get in. He wss too good NOT to get in. The HOF voters just don’t like blowhards, but T.O. will absolutely get in. He just needs to keep to himself about it, as him getting all worked up and vocal about won’t help. All in good time, Terrell.

    He was divisive as a player, and a diva and a distraction at times, no doubt. With that said, he was a dominant player on the field, and always demanded that the opposing D account for him at all times. The HOF will include T.O.’s bust at some point in the near future.

  33. Jesus Christ already. Yes, he deserves to be in. But the “narrative” isn’t false just because Mike Florio and James Lofton decide to select their facts and circumstances. “Was it in year 4, was it in year 6…” What kind of stupid questions are these? Just because he wasn’t a cancer on day 1 doesn’t mean he wasn’t a cancer later in his tenure with a team. Put another way, why else did 3 teams jettison him when he was still very productive? The only way teams get rid of you while you’re still productive is if you’re making too much relative to your production. Otherwise, you’re a cancer. Sure, there were and still are a lot of players that loved him. But he also spewed venom at a few players as well. Ask Jeff Garcia, Donovon McNabb, and Tony Romo. You can’t turn your back on the truth.

  34. The Sports Media is no different than the MSMedia — it pushes false narratives that it is told to push.

    Question every story and see which way it is trying to push you.

  35. Someone should ask James Lofton if he would have wanted
    T. Owens as a teammate on those great Bills teams of the 90’s.
    And whether he’d prefer to trade out Don Beebe, or Andre Reed to
    have that pleasure. Also, what effect would having a malcontent
    like TO have caused on those teams, with Jim Kelly at QB?

  36. In the grand scheme of things, does it really matter? Who cares? He will always be remembered as a clown who could catch and run with a ball. And he’s already broke.

  37. Owens played with Jeff garcia, Donovan mcvomit, flaky romo, and whoever was the bills qb at the time he was there…and some people want to hold it against him that his teams didn’t win? The smug know it all attitude from these people is quite ludicrous. He was the only reason they were competitive in the superbowl vs the Patriots and the great Tom Brady. Not TOs fault his qb wasnt in shape or couldn’t handle his nerves as he showed everyone by vomiting in the huddle

  38. The three years that he was with the Cowboys he was the most productive receiver in the NFL, so if the teams weren’t necessarily winning don’t blame him.

  39. lightofkolob says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:51 PM
    IMO TO disqualified himself on morning doing situps in the driveway. Has TO ever apologized to Andy Reid or Donovan Mcnabb?

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    Why would T.O. Apologize? McNabb should apologize to Owens for puking in the huddle at the SB….

  40. The fact remains TO made a dumpster fire out of the Eagles 2005 season. And the cowboys cut his whiny butt after the 2008 season, less than a year after signing him to a big extension. He deserves to wait a few more years for putting his own needs and wants above those of the team.

  41. There are players in that dont belong imo. Im am a die hard Denver fan for 30+ years & i think Owens belonged before Terrell Davis, & while Davis was the reason Denver won 2 super bowls back to back, i still wonder if he should in 1st ballott. But Owens clearly belongs 1st ballot. HOF voters let their personal thoughts interfere with their vote….look at his numbers and do whats right

  42. The way i look at it, Owens was extremely talented and a problem child. He was good, and if we go solely based on stats and talent, hes the guy everyone wants. But look at what happened in dallas. His own team mates turned on him. Romo essentially took him out of the game by choosing to throw to others like Witten. Just do a google search of tony romo, witten and owens. Talent is all good, but if your team mates dont want to play with you, well you probably dont deserve to be in the hall of fame. People want to play with the larry fitzgeralds. Players that make the entire team better are HOF worthy. Did owens truly make all the teams he played for better? Did other players make plays for him?

  43. TO is getting in. He was dominant & had great stats.

    He also was a me-1st, cancer-prone distraction. Politics are the reason he’ll have to wait. That’s life.

  44. Micheal Irvin had cocaine arrests and other embarrassing situations..I mean how many HOF players are in the Hall for Gambling, drug arrests, domestic violence, assault even stabbing a team mate with scissors! Owens never had an arrest or even a traffic violation. Every team he played for, he made better. Every team has players who didn’t get along..Owens numbers don’t lie. He is a HOF NO DOUBT

  45. TO played at pretty much the same time as Marvin Harrison. TO’s average season came out to 86 receptions, 1268 yards and 12 TDs. That was his average season folks. Marvin’s average season comes out to 94 receptions, 1241 yards and 11 TDs. Almost the exact same player except TO comes out slightly ahead on average reception and 1 more TD per season.

    As for the brain dead people here who say TO’s teams never won – what? Do you even watch football? TO’s teams had 8 winning seasons amongst the 14 he played. That’s a pretty darn good record especially since he played for the Bills and his last season was with the Bungles. heck, he even helped take Dallas to two playoff seasons. They’ve only had two playoff appearances since he last played with them in 2008.

    TO’s teams were a cumulate 127-97 for a .567 winning percentage. I’d say he was on plenty of winning teams.

    He is a HOFer. There is no doubt about it. And I don’t care if the “but he was a locker room cancer” narrative is even correct. Who cares? Seriously.

    You think Jerry Rice was easy to get along with? Was Brett Favre the consummate teammate at the end of his career with the Pack? Michael Irvin stabbed a team mate in the neck with a pair of scissors! What about Charles Haley? Terry Bradshaw was an absolute loon for most of his time with the Steelers and hardly a poster child for good behaviour, in and out of the locker room. Shall we go on?

  46. I like that you are working to stick up for TO, whom has been snubbed. But why not go a step further and out these HOF voters with your connections? They deserve to be doxxed and shamed until they lose their voting privileges.

  47. He should be a hall of famer, but when your as much of a malcontent a-hole as he was, your gonna have an issue. Right or wrong, just the way it is.

  48. Put him in, he needs to be in and his stats speak for themselves. Even if he acted a fool and drove the bus more than a actual bus driver. His stats are HOF worthy and if others with fewer totals are already in then you can’t continue to keep him out period. Only thing that really should be up for discussion is should his bust feature the tears pouring through under his sunglasses or be the first full body statue doing sit-ups. Hey, if you’re gonna put him in let’s do it right.

  49. TO is not getting in now that Jerry Jones bought his bust as a contributor. Just like he did in the NFL, Jones is going to make the HoF into a cash cow for the bustees, but you have to join the cabal and pay an entrance fee first, kind of like a pal for where you want your bust to go, then an annual fee for each year they exhibit your bust. But there’s a twist. You have to pay that PSL bust fee for each team you played for in the NFL. So no way TO can come up with that money each year.
    And watch, before long, Jerry Jones is going to introduce the Hall of Fame of the Hall of Fame. And he will be the only exhibit.

    Poor TO. He missed his chance.

  50. He was an egotistical jerk. Dancing on the star was classless and so were a dozen other incidents. BUT: he was a league-leading WR who posted amazing stats over a long career. So unless he actually committed a crime, he has to go in the HOF. (Yes, I know there are people who DID commit crimes in the HOF, but there shouldn’t be.) Vote him in.

  51. charliecharger says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:38 PM
    Great players almost always help their team win. The one exception is Owens. He was talented, but he caused so many problems that he actually hurt his teams’ chances to win. Every team will put up with a goofball or two, but Owens was different. He literally cost his team wins.

    TO was the best player on the field wearing an Eagles’ uniform during Super Bowl XXXIX. I say that as a Patriots’ fan. If the rest of his team had given the same level of effort, the Eagles would have won.

    I am interested in how TO made Andy Reid mismanage the clock, or made Donovan McNabb vomit on the sidelines.

  52. As Tom Brady knows, scissors = stitches. Never use scissors on a laminated “I’m a Hall of Fame voter” card, or an NFL shield decal. Scissors cut like a knife. That’s precisely why you never see kids run with them. I hate to say it, but kids are a lot smarter today than their average NFL contemporaries.

  53. His own team mates turned on him. Romo essentially took him out of the game by choosing to throw to others like Witten. Just do a google search of tony romo, witten and owens.

    In 2006, 2007, and 2008, Owens was the Cowboys’ leading receiver. Witten was not.

    I’m guessing you didn’t expect anybody to actually check the stats.

  54. “Moss quit on his teams.”

    Only the Raiders. When they sucked.

    I agree – that’s still a black mark on his record. But you make it sound like that was a regular practice of his.

    He never quit on the Patriots. He did ask to be traded after Belichick told him that he wasn’t going to get a new long-term contract. They parted on amicable terms.

  55. was TO a good WR? yes

    was TO a total dumbass? yes

    there are plenty other good humans that i would rather vote for.

  56. “then he goes to Philly and blames McNabb for everything, ”

    And if McNabb (presumably with help from Reid) hadn’t screwed up the clock management in the 4th quarter, and the Eagles win, Owens is one of the all-time SB heroes for his performance on a broken leg.

  57. Honestly, the only problem I have with T.O. is the huge diamond earring he wore. But ever since Trump’s hair, that earing of T.O.’s is a nothing burger. Is that really Trump’s hair, or is it died and extruded doggie doo?

  58. junkfooddaddy says:
    Feb 10, 2017 6:30 PM
    The guy was a cancer to every team he was on. That is one reason his teams never won.
    _____________________________________

    Junk food must have damaged your brain.
    And coming back 6 weeks after a broken leg, playing in and nearly single handedly winning the Superbowl, qualifies him right there. If Donovan McNabb hadn’t been vomiting and just got that drive going, TO and the Eagles would have a ring. And TO would be in the HOF already.

  59. Revisionist history…Anyone that kept up with football at that time should recall this and he was a huge problem. Teams would not let that sort of talent leave if he wasn’t a huge problem

  60. I think that the members of the Hall of Fame are capable of voting in the players. Maybe two or three writers on the panel. It’s ridiculous to put this in the hands of a group that never played the game. Half of the people that don’t like T.O. Only feel that way because the media told them to feel that way. You don’t know him personally, so you only know what they decide to show you. Do you think you’d like some of your other sports heroes if you “really” knew how they were? I don’t think so. The media can make you hate whoever they want you to hate. T.O. wasn’t an angel, but he never got in trouble with the law, never got suspended by the league for anything, but they’re keeping him out of the hall because people didn’t “like” him. What a joke!!

  61. PFT loves the Steelers says:
    Feb 10, 2017 7:20 PM

    Dan Fouts, who had a career of 86-84-1, and a passer rating of just 80.2 partly because he threw almost as many INTs (242) as TDs (254), and never went deep in the playoffs (3-4) or even at all for 11 of his 15 seasons, has told T.O. that HoF is more than about just stats! – clearly.
    ______________

    Different era, kid. An 80.2 passer rating was solid back in Fouts’ day, and Fouts was posting big passing numbers when few others were. Agree on TO though, he needs to be in the HOF.
    ————————-
    I know, and I’m well old enough to remember that era! – and yes it was different. He threw a pretty ball but for all his yards he threw as many picks as TD’s so what was the point? – he never won more than he lost. Like Marino only less so. I don’t much care for T.O. – typical mouthy, self-obsessed drama queen that he is – but agree with you that he prob should be in HoF.

  62. Ask Bill Parcells if he thinks ‘the player’ should be in the HOF. Parcells wouldn’t even use his name in Dallas.

    Sure, Owens was a great teammate in SF, when things are going well, it is a easy for anyone to be a great teammate.

  63. Maybeeeee the league just wants to make him wait a year as to not promote his selfish and limelight centered attitude from being the acceptable norm… and all of your talk about evil cabals keeping him out as a conspiracy is really just silly as hell…

    And next year when he inevitably gets in, as he would anyhow, you’ll feel like these aimed pieces actually do something in the minds of the people that matter…

  64. this is the NFL.. plenty of guys have massive egos. The guy played as hard as one could play once he was between the lines. Played in the Super Bowl on a broken leg. I guess I am just confused when how good of a teammate you were got you into the Hall of Fame. It is about guys who could ball and TO is near the top of the list.

  65. Not a fan of Owens but that’s immaterial. He belongs in the HOF. If I understand HOF voting correctly, some “sportswriter” is going to have to go to bat for Owens and make a case for his inclusion in the HOF.

    Being from St. Louis, I understood that Bernie Miklasz’s presentation was so good he got Larry Wilson voted in. So, is there a sportswriter who is going to take up the mantle for Terrell Owens? Surely there has to be one writer who recognizes the excellence of Owens’ career.

  66. patsfansincegrogan says:
    Feb 11, 2017 9:13 AM
    Ask Bill Parcells if he thinks ‘the player’ should be in the HOF. Parcells wouldn’t even use his name in Dallas.

    Sure, Owens was a great teammate in SF, when things are going well, it is a easy for anyone to be a great teammate.

    ===

    He also called Terry Glenn, Theresa, then signed or traded for him (can’t remember which) in Dallas. Parcells seemed to always have a purpose regarding his use of the media.

  67. The people say Owens is without doubt belongs in the Hall of Fame. Everybody can’t be perfect. The guy was sensational, and most teams would have loved to have him on their team.

  68. As long as he gets in soon, I won’t feel bad for him. He definitely had some diva-ness to him (and some of that stuff was justified really), so if they want to make him wait an extra year, ok.

    There’s no denying his skill and dominance at the position though. He deserves to be in the Hall.

  69. Not sure how his personality deters him from the hall. Numbers and wins AND he played in the big game. Many inductees haven’t. Not aware of any criminal activity either. Long list of druggies and womanizers in Canton. His short stints on teams at the end of his career simple marks a decline and needs of teams.

  70. I don’t like TO at all, but he is a first ballot hover. If he doesn’t get in, they should just close the doors if Roethlisberger ever gets in.

  71. enshrinment, immortality, just words used to mystify the process;

    it is a bunch of skinny-fat bloggers gritting their teeth at their keyboards because T.O. hurt their feelings by being honest at all times.

    yellow rumorism: bait. vilify. exploit. troll. repeat.

    that is all they are doing now.

  72. Watched his whole carrer in SF as a diehard fan. Before they got rid of Harbaugh, I’d missed 5 games in my 41 years.

    I can’t imagine that a wide receiver that dropped as many balls as he did would go to the hall of fame. I mean, that’s the definition of what a wide receiver does isn’t it?

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