#DeflateGate technically isn’t over, yet

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Before the book can be closed once and for all on the football-inflation odyssey known as #DeflateGate, one more thing still has to occur.

As noted by Alex Rikleen of the Boston Herald, the process will end after the Patriots forfeit their selection in the fourth round of the 2017 draft.

The Patriots have found multiple contributors in the fourth round. From current Patriots like running back James White to receiver Malcolm Mitchell to defensive linemen Trey Flowers to offensive linemen Shaq Mason and Cameron Fleming to kicker Stephen Gostkowski, each arrived in New England via round four.

Other key Patriots came after round four, which underscores the potential value of that round. Tackle Marcus Cannon was a fifth-round pick, for example. Receiver Julian Edelman arrived via round seven.

And, of course, the greatest quarterback to ever play the game was picked two rounds after the fourth round.

So losing a fourth-round pick remains a big deal for the Patriots — even if there will be no way of knowing who Patriots would have taken with that pick and whether that player will develop into the kind of player elsewhere that he would have become in New England.

107 responses to “#DeflateGate technically isn’t over, yet

  1. The strategic plan was set in play when TB made the decision to drop it.
    BB, you know started setting up draft board
    Contingency plans.
    Besides BB will do real drafting after week 3 of the regular season dumpster diving.

  2. The Patriots will have two #1’s this year after trading Jimmy G, probably a top 15 pick which I can see BB flipping the 32nd pick for a # 2 round this year and another first in 2018.

  3. Finally a mention of this. Can somebody please leak the PSI info the league has allegedly been collecting for two years?

  4. .
    Here’s a look at the picks the Patriots have throughout the draft:

    First round: 32 nd pick.

    Second round: 32 nd pick, 64 overall.

    Third round: 32 nd pick, 96 overall.

    Third or Fourth round: Compensatory pick at end of third or fourth round via trade with Browns. Pick depends on what Browns receive from the NFL.

    Fourth round: 24 th pick, 120 overall (via trade with Seahawks).

    Fifth round: 19 th pick, 146 overall (via trade with Broncos).

    Seventh round: 21 st pick, 210 overall.
    .

  5. imho a first rounder for garapolo is a small stretch, given that it is known he wants out for a deserved starting chance, and NE wants something for him before he becomes a FA.

    a bidding war could erupt, but a first rounder for a qb developed by someone else is too much, and more than a second rounder is a pipe dream.

    just think assuming teams will give away their first round pick is a stretch. bring the tears.

  6. @tonebones NO HOF voter has ever said they would consider NOT voting for TB12 the moment he becomes eligible. It’s hard to imagine that it wouldn’t be unanimous never mind being beyond the threshold lol!

  7. let’s see…. the idiot who instigated the whole thing got fired, one of the biggest media honks for the NFL got fired, there was a serious discussion this week that the Colts were sign stealers and pumped crowd noise into their stadium (in other news the sun rose in the east this week too) t-shirts are being sold with Goodell’s face and a clown nose and most people think that’s funny because the deflate gate science was disproven by everyone from an MIT professor to a sixth grade science class, the Jets remain terrible, the Colts are terrible, NFL ratings were way down and the Patriots won the Super Bowl in the most amazing way possible and have a piece they could trade for, you guessed it, a 1st and a 4th round draft pick. Winning the Super Bowl probably got Bob Kraft’s million dollars back too. Yeah, I’d say this has worked out for the people who started it and has really stung the Patriots. Really.

  8. one more: and the dopey, crybaby Ravens are terrible too. Baltimore meant what ? Raven meant what ? Duh….they cheated sniffle sniffle.

  9. It’s going to take more than that for this to be over. If Goodell never apologizes to Brady and the Patriots, and he doesn’t know what that even means, deflategate will continue to overshadow every public announcement and appearance he makes.
    Goodell is a fool. He is a clown. He is the joke.

  10. Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    Why not be mad at patriots for cheating. I don’t understand.

  11. Until FRAUGER apologizes for the Frame job of FRAMEGATE, it will never truly be over….further poetic justice will occur next season when the Pats go back to the SuperBowl & win it again after being robbed of their 4th round pick…..
    The jealous greedy owners of the other 31 teams that went after the Patriots on the back of a corrupt commissioner can choke on the decision they made to try & bring down the Patriots organization & suffer the consequences….
    2 Super Bowl championships in 3 years since this attempted injustice has taken place & NO END IN SIGHT of seeing thing change….. THAT is true KARMA!!!
    Man it is SO SWEET to be a Patriots fan & watch this unfold….I wonder what riches Jimmy G will send our way???!!
    Resistance is futile!!!!

  12. dudermcrbohan says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:02 PM
    Asante Samuel came in the fourth round

    ========================

    he also made the biggest drop of an int our franchise has ever seen, so not really a gem in my opinion.

  13. Technically Deflategate will not end because it severed Robert Kraft’s support for Goodell and the league office. The Patriots will be fine with draft picks when they move Jimmy G – he bidding war is going to be epic – Bears, 49ers, Browns and a host of other teams that have a starter for only one year. If BB would entertain it, I could see Jimmy G with the Jets or Bills. The jealous owners will not let Goodell back down so there will be no apology or restoration of the picks. The penalties were imposed to satisfy guys like Irsay but their support is transitory so Goodell is gone when his contract is up in 2018. To placate Kraft, the fans and the players the owners could sacrifice Goodell earlier but that would require Jerry Jones, the Rooneys and the Maras to be on board. I suspect Goodell again sneering at the fans on draft day might be enough to trigger that response and the new commissioner will be able to restore the integrity of the league office.

  14. jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.
    Why not be mad at patriots for cheating. I don’t understand.
    —————————–

    We’ve been explaining it to you for 2 years. We can’t understand it for you.

  15. jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    Why not be mad at patriots for cheating. I don’t understand.

    whether the Pats did it or not, fact is the Commish blatantly lied throughout the case just like he has in other cases. So there ya go, there’s our reason to hate him…He’s a liar and shouldnt be acceptable to any of us.

  16. jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM

    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    Why not be mad at patriots for cheating. I don’t understand.
    __________________________________
    Because every physicist and scientist not on the NFL payroll that has weighed in on this has stated that the deflation was caused by the elements.

  17. At the home opener next year the Patriots should pass out the Barstool Roger the Clown T-Shirts to all fans.

  18. jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    Why not be mad at patriots for cheating. I don’t understand.

    —–

    Where have you been? On the ledge? Welcome back.

  19. Behold the aftermath of Deflategate:

    Goodell — National laughingstock
    Kensil — Manning Alaskan radar tower
    Grigson — Fired
    Colts — Destroyed
    Ravens — Destroyed
    Harbaugh — No playoffs, fired soon
    Pagano — No playoffs, fired soon
    Patriots — 2 Lombardis in 3 years
    Brady — 2 SB MVPs, first to come back from 10 down in 4th quarter of SB (2014); biggest comeback in SB history (2016); most passing yards in SB history

    The football gods have spoken.

  20. In all legitimacy, As long as they sign the Defense they need to – and as long as Gronk comes back, even if he has to sign for less.

    Patriots will be BACK IN the Super Bowl. Win or lose, there is not an AFC team thats going to compete or keep them out of it.

    Bennet, Floyd, and Long have all indicated they want to come back even if it means for less.
    Butler is restricted anyways and he’s happy to come back.
    Give LG29 the Franchise tag if negotiations break down.
    Get SeBass, Hightower, and Sheard signed.

    And most importantly Bring back #87 — and were back in the SB.

  21. nhstateline says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:07 PM
    let’s see…. the idiot who instigated the whole thing got fired, one of the biggest media honks for the NFL got fired, there was a serious discussion this week that the Colts were sign stealers and pumped crowd noise into their stadium (in other news the sun rose in the east this week too) t-shirts are being sold with Goodell’s face and a clown nose and most people think that’s funny because the deflate gate science was disproven by everyone from an MIT professor to a sixth grade science class, the Jets remain terrible, the Colts are terrible, NFL ratings were way down and the Patriots won the Super Bowl in the most amazing way possible and have a piece they could trade for, you guessed it, a 1st and a 4th round draft pick. Winning the Super Bowl probably got Bob Kraft’s million dollars back too. Yeah, I’d say this has worked out for the people who started it and has really stung the Patriots. Really

    ==========================

    not to mention that an NFL staffer was fired for trying to steal and then sell the balls from the game. Deflategate now brings doubt over any further investigation the NFL under Goodell’s regime. That and Bountygate. It was proven that Anthony Hargrove never said anything they accused him of, and then painted him as a snitch to the rest of the NFL. That and sweeping Peytons HGH accusations under the rug so quickly after Peyton had his goons scare the accusers MOM and DAD!!

  22. The nfl needs to admit apologize to the Patriots and suspend Mother Nature. Because as of right now exponent, tedd wells and the nfl offices would argue the earth is flat based on their shady experiments.

  23. It’s not even close to being over! Roger needs to show up for opening day at Gillette. Fans will welcome him wearing clown T-shirts and clown noses.

  24. Oh Chippy….please never leave us. Your anguish brings joy to Patriot nation. Maybe someday the Phins will win something and we can all troll your teams website. In the meanwhile, keep em coming bro. 45 years and counting.

  25. #DeflateGate technically isn’t over, yet
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    At this rate (2 SB’s out of the last 3) though, most of NE is probably OK with Fraudgate not ending. Myself? I’d prefer 3 for 3.

  26. jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    ————-

    Patriots serve penalty

    Patriots win Super Bowl

    Brady Greatest Ever

  27. Kraft is being pretty clear. Pash needs to go for refusing to rescind the false information published immediately after the AFCCG. It blew the situation way out of proportion, and it has been a huge scar on”the shield”. The majority of people are still swayed by that innaccurate PSI information.

    Roger can make better by throwing Pash under the bus and acknowledging that the league office could have handled it better. Instead Roger persists by “losing” domestic violence video tapes, “misplacing” concussion case information, and making “accounting errors” that coincidentally favor the owners by $120M.

    Being mad at the Patriots is just more Roger being Roger.

  28. jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    Why not be mad at patriots for cheating. I don’t understand.
    ———
    Hey everyone, jchipwood just admitted that he doesn’t understand 6th grade science!

  29. cheetasnevaprospa says:
    Feb 11, 2017 9:17 PM
    Here comes the Chowdahead lynch mob again, denying the obvious.

    Your wins are tainted. ***
    ———-
    You and Jchipwood should get together and go bowling some time

  30. cheetasnevaprospa says:
    Feb 11, 2017 9:17 PM

    Your wins are tainted. *
    =====================

    It’s a funny thing but when I see an asterisk here there isn’t much backing it up. Yet when I see one on a stats site after Brady’s name it almost always says NFL record although sometimes it denotes playoff or Super Bowl record and 5 times I have seen it mean ‘Won Superbowl’

  31. Thank you bullcharger for admitting the patriots cheating issues.
    ——————————-
    bullcharger says:
    Feb 11, 2017 8:50 PM
    jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

  32. Thank you bullcharger for acknowledging the patriots cheating issues in your previous post.

    —————————-
    bullcharger says:
    Feb 11, 2017 8:50 PM

    jchipwood says:
    Feb 11, 2017 6:18 PM
    Patriots get caught cheating. Commissioner enforces penalty for cheating. Patriot fans ticked at Commissioner when patriots clearly brought this on themselves.

    ————-

    Patriots serve penalty

    Patriots win Super Bowl

    Brady Greatest Ever

  33. It’s now almost universally accepted the Pats are the greatest dynasty and Brady and Belichick are the GOATS. The handful of bitter, denying, excuse making holdouts are just going to have to live with it. I’m glad.

  34. skawh says:
    Feb 11, 2017 9:52 PM
    2 gifted SB’s, and a Tuck Rule gifted SB. That’s some “greatness.”
    ==================

    Maybe it’s just me but I am beginning to think 12 tears are the most buoyant. Yes fraider, stealers & fishy tears have been around longer but we have owned them for so long they have lost their luster. But when you know you ripped the guts out of their silly little make believe one year dynasty and they just can’t get past it… that’s the good stuff. I mean ONE SB win in franchise history, they are Tampa for goodness sake. And the Pats did it to them and they know it.

  35. 70,000 Clown shirts on opening night and Goodell booed loudly. We will NEVER forget and NEVER forgive.

    That lying scumbag Goodell needs to admit what he has done and rescind the outrageous penalties.

    It ain’t over until WE SAY IT IS!

  36. m8gaman says:
    Feb 11, 2017 9:24 PM

    Hey everyone, jchipwood just admitted that he doesn’t understand 6th grade science!
    =======================

    Cut the chipster some slack, he won’t be studying it until next year.

  37. Jchipwood Colts violated the rules by checking another teams equipment during the game. That IS in the NFL rulebook as a no no. You are supposed to have the officials do it. But why be mad at the Colts for cheating?

  38. Skawh, you are obviously butt hurt that the Patriots ended your delusional belief that the Seahawks were the NFL’s next dynasty. Instead, they joined a number of pedestrian franchises that managed to win one super bowl. In short, you support the west coast version of the Jets.

  39. You sure can tell it’s not over. All these Patriots fans who should be happy and celebrating their victory just sound so miserable and angry. They don’t even get to enjoy it. I wish Brady wouldn’t have been caught cheating. I don’t remember all this whining when Clemens got popped for roids. I think down deep they hate Brady for spoiling their fairy tale.

  40. tonebones says:
    Feb 11, 2017 10:52 PM
    You sure can tell it’s not over. All these Patriots fans who should be happy and celebrating their victory just sound so miserable and angry. They don’t even get to enjoy it. I wish Brady wouldn’t have been caught cheating. I don’t remember all this whining when Clemens got popped for roids. I think down deep they hate Brady for spoiling their fairy tale.
    _________________
    Gee…. This guys BRILLIANT….
    5 Rings from the same coach/QB combo & we’re just not enjoying it…
    Guess we’ll just have to wait till next year when ring # 6 arrives…. Yeah, life will be just miserable till then…Lol….BRILLIANT I TELL YOU…. JUST BRILLIANT!!!

  41. weepingjebus says:
    Feb 11, 2017 7:19 PM
    Behold the aftermath of Deflategate:

    Goodell — National laughingstock
    Kensil — Manning Alaskan radar tower
    Grigson — Fired
    Colts — Destroyed
    Ravens — Destroyed
    Harbaugh — No playoffs, fired soon
    Pagano — No playoffs, fired soon
    Patriots — 2 Lombardis in 3 years
    Brady — 2 SB MVPs, first to come back from 10 down in 4th quarter of SB (2014); biggest comeback in SB history (2016); most passing yards in SB history

    The football gods have spoken.
    ********************
    and Goodell’s club of sycophantic owners – Mara, Blank, McNair – all lost in the playoffs, not to mention Mara’s Brown travesty, the Falcons pumping in noise, and McNair now owning a $70mm mistake

  42. IMHO here is how Garrapolo will play out. Patriots will swap places with Browns at pick 12 in the 1st round and receive the Browns #2 pick (#33 in the draft). So the Patriots will have #12 in rd1, #33 and 64 in rd2. While the Browns will retain #1 rd1 and essentially an improved Rd 2 by moving up one spot to 32, along with Jimmy G. The Patriots will use the #12 pick to grab the best O-lineman, D-Back, or D-Line run stuffer on the board. That’s a win-win IMO.

  43. Technically, the Patriots DO have their fourth round pick. They made a trade with Seattle for their fourth round pick and, since the Bozo the Clown said that, if the Patriots made a trade for a fourth round pick, they would lose the higher of the picks. As the SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS they pick last in every round. So, they will lose the Seattle pick and STILL HAVE HEIR OWN.
    Karma is a bitch Roger, NFL New York office, Indianapolis, Baltimore, Cowboys (Gerry Jones) and Houston (Bob McNair). Have you haters checked the Las Vegas early odds for 2018?

  44. It doesn’t matter. Until the Belichick-Brady connection is broken up, nobody can catch the NE Pats. Goodell or not.

  45. Never say die. Brady and Pats showed grit and determination this season. That, in spite of the witchhunt, and his defamation of Brady that Goodell orchestrated.

    Now, instead of grit and determination, Goodell whines about a clown t shirt like a little girl, and he will forever look the fool, over-payed, clown that he is.
    He is never going to go out on top.

    Dont hate. Appreciate. Pats GOAT

  46. Simple fact is this great unwashed of NE,

    You will cheat again because it pays.

    NFL is basically over because although you were punished for 2 cheating scandals, the real penalties were never doled out, and that was a suspension of the coach.

    Hopefully BB rewrites his old book and details his outright destruction of a once proud league.

    In his mind he thinks he’s the greatest ever, but all he’s ever won is more fake praise and adulation.

    The owners all should cash out and dissolve this worse than wrestling clown show

  47. imho a first rounder for garapolo is a small stretch, given that it is known he wants out for a deserved starting chance, and NE wants something for him before he becomes a FA.

    a bidding war could erupt, but a first rounder for a qb developed by someone else is too much, and more than a second rounder is a pipe dream.

    just think assuming teams will give away their first round pick is a stretch. bring the tears.
    _______________________

    But is it ok to use a first round pick on a college quarterback who would normally take years to develop if they develop at all?

  48. Tonebones seems to me you are the one miserable and angry, not the Pat’s fans who are still celebrating our 5th Super Bowl victory. But it’s understanding since you are a fan of the Colts and still don’t understand 7th grade science.

  49. Prediction: Roger the Clown T-Shirts will become the hottest selling T-shirt at NFL games next season.

  50. Isn’t it over when the NFL settles with Brady over his defamation lawsuit?

    Does he even still have the legal rights to file a lawsuit vs the NFL in regards to the deflategate mess?

  51. Yeah Florio,

    And neither is the case of all of those tainted 70’s pittsburgh
    so called super wins. With your team Physician
    allegedly handing out steroids to all of pittsburgh?

    Makes me wonder how many draft picks should be
    deducted or trophies returned.

  52. The gift that keeps on giving. Go ahead, suspend Brady for four more. He seems to play pretty well when he’s only knocked around for 12 games.

    As irritated as I am at this, I still have the NFL network showing constant replays of Goodell handing us that trophy. And at this point, the Colts and Ravens are both dumpster fires, with only adequate quarterbacks and coaches on the hot seat. I don’t think its possible for our football lives to be better! That’ll keep us Patriots fans warm for a quite awhile.

    Go Patriots!

  53. .
    @tonebone

    ” All these Patriots fans who should be happy and celebrating their victory just sound so miserable and angry. ”
    _____

    Spot on analysis, Dr Crane. When your team finishes 14–2 and wins their last 10 including the Super Bowl, you tend to be a tad disappointed. There’s nothing like the warm glow of a Patriots victory to brighten a chilly Monday morning.
    .

  54. johnnycantread says:
    Feb 12, 2017 9:21 AM
    If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

    —–

    They didn’t do the crime, everyone that isn’t a hopeless troll knows that, and they still did the time.

    And apparently that time came with a SB win.

  55. Yeah Florio,

    And neither is the case of all of those tainted 70’s pittsburgh
    so called super wins. With your team Physician
    allegedly handing out steroids to all of pittsburgh?

    Makes me wonder how many draft picks should be
    deducted or trophies returned.

    Allegedly, bull shot-t! Never proven no evidence tied to the team just another lying Cheetah doing what they do best.

    Makes me wonder what they are teaching about ethics up there. Whatever it is stay there……honesty is value where I live.

  56. upnorthvikesfan says:
    Feb 12, 2017 11:06 AM
    Stop with the greatest QB ever thing. He’s not. He just plays in the greatest system ever and under what is probably the best coach ever.

    ———————————-

    Bill Belichick adapts his system each year to the personnel he has on the roster. So thus far Brady has excelled in 17 of them. Which of those 17 is he the product of?

  57. upnorthvikesfan says:
    Feb 12, 2017 11:06 AM

    Stop with the greatest QB ever thing. He’s not. He just plays in the greatest system ever and under what is probably the best coach ever.
    ——————————————————
    Speaks the fan whose team is 0-4 in Super Bowls and has a quarterback situation riddled with injury and ineptitude.

    Brady is the best QB…ever. And if you check your stats you’ll see he has more wins than Montana had games played and more playoff wins than Montana and Tarkenton combined. So enjoy that!

  58. upnorthvikesfan says:
    Feb 12, 2017 11:06 AM
    Stop with the greatest QB ever thing. He’s not….
    ———————————————————-

    I don’t know if there are any pundits who still believe there is a debate, even Bob Kravitz was calling Tom Brady the G.O.A.T before the Super Bowl, but I think players can be a better gauge because they really know what the game requires. Towards that end, here is a short list of former or current players, most of whom are in the HoF or will be there one day, who disagree with you:

    Jim Kelly
    Troy Aikman
    Fran Tarkenton
    Terry Bradshaw
    Kurt Warner
    Joe Namath
    Boomer Esiason
    Deion Sanders
    Ray Lewis
    Ed Reed
    Barry Sanders
    Darrelle Revis
    Brett Favre
    Hines Ward

    Lots of QBs and a lot of Super Bowl rings in that list. They know…

  59. Goodell and his cronies at 345 park avenue have been losing sleep over trying to find something else to stick to the patriots somehow.

  60. upnorthvikesfan says:
    Feb 12, 2017 11:06 AM
    Stop with the greatest QB ever thing. He’s not. He just plays in the greatest system ever and under what is probably the best coach ever.
    ——————————————————————
    Vikings fan? PLEASE. You know nothing of Super Bowl wins. Do yourself a favor and take a seat on one of those awesome Viking helmets you guys love to wear. You know, the one with those BIG horns on the top.

  61. it would be nice if teams just threw around their first round picks willy nilly, but in reality, garappolo is good, but unproven, outside of his current system.

    i think parting with a first rounder dictates that you at least know what you are getting, imho.

    a second rounder for jimmyg seems more realistic.

    please don’t get your tears on me.

  62. “PITTSBURGH — A former Pittsburgh Steelers doctor who left the team after investigators questioned his bulk purchase of anabolic steroids has been indicted for illegally prescribing the muscle-building aids and other drugs.

    Federal authorities don’t list the team or its players as having gotten the substances from Dr. Richard Rydze, who was charged in a 185-count indictment with conspiracy to illegally distribute steroids, human growth hormone and painkillers including oxycodone.”

    ———————————

    Unprecedented cheating resulting in a 185 count Federal Indictment. Wow. Just WOW!
    What’s that saying? “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire”

    Every “championship” the Stealers has is dripping with the stink of Steroid Taint and covered in asterisks.

    So much for your fake Dynasty Pitt.

    Stealers******

  63. Goodell has been robbing the Patriots. He stole millions, draft picks, four games from Brady. Goodell gives other teams a pass for the same violations that he spent millions to punish the Patriots.
    Oh well… Goodell is a clown and the Patriots get the last laugh.

  64. castlelong1 says:
    Feb 12, 2017 10:28 AM

    It ends when the last player drafted in 2017 or 2016 retires.
    —————————————————————
    I appreciate that logic, but even that doesn’t account for the following situations:

    • Patriots could have traded the stolen 2016 1st round pick for a draft in a later year. (Obviously they didn’t need the pick to wing in 2016).

    • Patriots could have traded one or both of 2 drafted players for a younger player or a draft pick before the drafted players rookie contract expires. (Just like they may trade Jimmy Garoppolo)

    • Patriots could have received up to two compensatory picks when one or both the drafted players went to free agency and picked up by another team.

    The damage that was done to the Patriots will last for many years. All because Roger Goodell didn’t understand science and then decided to lie about it once he was informed.

    The NFL could fix their mistake by awarding the Patriots the top 2 picks in the first round of the 2017 draft and by giving the Patriots back their stolen 2017 4th round pick.

    The NFL still has not told football fans what the PSI data from the 2015 seasons indicates.

  65. It’s over once the last of the willfully ignorant science denying dupes figures out that they were sold a sack of lies. Once the last dupe understands that they were manipulated by sensational and repetitive headlines, Nonsense that was spoon fed to them through the mass media in the form of simplistic concepts. Simplistic concepts marketed to simpletons.

    All the dupes seem to remember these simplistic concepts:
    “Deflator”
    “Brady destroyed his phone”

    Its too bad that simpletons are not capable of understanding that the PSI numbers can drop without air being removed from footballs. Even when there are videos posted online it can be seen happening.

    The video titled: “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS” was posted online in 2015. Yet 2 years later duped simpletons still parrot the buzz words that the NFL used to feed their confirmation bias.

    It has been said that “it’s easier to lie to people than to later convince them that they were lied to”. Like they say…you can’t fix stupid.

  66. breadmeatcheese says:
    Feb 12, 2017 11:53 AM

    garappolo is good, but unproven, outside of his current system.
    ———————————————————–
    All players in the draft are unproven, outside of playing in a system at the college level.

  67. DEFLATEGATE was over the moment the patriots received the ball in overtime….

    It was OFFICIALLY over when James Whites touchdown was reviewed and good…

  68. Brady didn’t get “caught cheating”. He was suspended 4 games for an equipment violation despite any evidence in a pre-determined sham to punish the Patriots. He just happened to be the vehicle in which Goodell could rig that outcome for the owners once he saw his chance.

    Since the origination of the false “11 of 12 balls” narrative and Colts sting operation, the Patriots have added 2 more Super Bowl championships to the pile and are favored to win another next year.

    We’re pretty good with that. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

  69. “You sure can tell it’s not over. All these Patriots fans who should be happy and celebrating their victory just sound so miserable and angry.”
    —–

    On the contrary, we are having parades, drinking beer, wearing Goodell clown shirts, and laughing our backsides off, while the the NFL office is “seething”.

    We won, and I’m not talking about the game. For the rest of his LIFE, loser Roger will be recognized by every crowd everywhere for the total weasel that he is.

  70. DRAFT….so what…

    Tom Brady, drafted 199…Malcolm Butler…undrafted…James While drafted 130….Julian Edelman drafted 232…Chris Hogan…undrafted….Malcolm Mitchell…drafted 112…Deion Lewis drafted 149….did they dream they would be SB heroes? Did anyone believe them? #you gotta play with a chip…

  71. None of this matters, and the NFL office can’t figure out you can’t stop the Pats. They will just have to wait for the future to sort things out.

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