If Tyrod Taylor leaves, Bills could start Cardale Jones

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The Bills have a month to decide whether to pick up quarterback Tyrod Taylor’s option and guarantee him $30.75 million, or to let him become an unrestricted free agent. If Taylor leaves in free agency, does that mean the Bills will sign or draft another quarterback to replace Taylor as the starter?

Not necessarily. According to Vic Carucci of the Buffalo News, General Manager Doug Whaley likes the idea of going with Cardale Jones as the starter.

The Bills drafted Jones in the fourth round last season and kept him on the bench all year until putting him in at the end of a meaningless Week 17 game, when he went 6-for-11 for 96 yards with an interception and no touchdowns. Jones simply hasn’t had enough playing experience to draw any conclusions about whether he’s ready to start.

But Whaley apparently thinks he is. And since Whaley is the one who makes the personnel decisions in Buffalo, it’s possible that the Bills think Taylor’s successor as starting quarterback is already in the building.

89 responses to “If Tyrod Taylor leaves, Bills could start Cardale Jones

  1. As a Bills season ticket holder that just paid the remainder $485 of his almost $1,400 seats, this will make me mad to no end. They better either get someone like Romo and draft a QB. I don’t want to have to deal with selling my tickets for $20 each at the end of the season again. It’s going to kill me (I’m stationed in Tucson, AZ and I just can’t see myself giving up my season ticket seats).

  2. .
    The Whaley Dilemma :

    Option #1 – Pay a middling QB like Tyrod Taylor 30.75 million for an 8-8 finish.

    Option #2 – Sign someone off the street, put him in a new system and finish 8-8

    Option #3 – Sell Cardale Jones as the next Dak Prescott, hope no one notices that you finished 8-8, and pray you can somehow keep your job despite a dreadful performance record.
    .

  3. I genuinely feel bad for Bills fans. You deserve better than that GM. I don’t know what he has done to deserve his job. The schedule is much tougher next year. So it may be 18 years.

  4. Buffalo should have their own Punxsutawney Phil saying when their payoff drought will end. Because going with a bad college QB that Ryan thought was decent will keep that cold winter days own western NY going on longer.

  5. gadzod says:
    Feb 12, 2017 6:15 AM
    As a Bills season ticket holder that just paid the remainder $485 of his almost $1,400 seats, this will make me mad to no end…get someone like Romo…
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    Perhaps you could sell your deflated-football hat? Btw, Bills are far too cheap to buy Romo! You better just pray it’s not Manziel – but at least you’ll see Brady once this season.

  6. I have to believe this is a draft strategy ploy, smoke and mirrors type of thing to keep other teams guessing. Cardale Jones maybe decent , but not ready to be a starter, IMO.

  7. I like this news. You never know how good a guy is until he gets in the game on Sunday. He has a very high ceiling and he’s already better than Tyrod Taylor. He did all that was asked of him at Ohio State, but he’ll be asked to do a lot more now. Give him two years and I think Bills fans will be pleasantly surprised.

  8. Taylor is gone, he cannot step up and win a game on his back. 14-14 won’t cut it. Didn’t show up in big games.

    Doesn’t help that Rex Ryan is a moron.

    Would not surprise me at all if Chad Kelly pops up as a storyline. He spent then end of the season Miami game on the sidelines already.

    I can see Dennison using the same broncos formula with a rookie quarterback concept, strong defense and running game.

  9. Ideally Cardale needs one more season behind a veteran QB. I do hope they bring in a Romo or Cutler for a season and load up on another QB potential in the draft.

    Competition is good, and they need to finally get this right, or lucky!

  10. Correct they could start Cardale Jones, or they could go after ………..

    Brian Hoyer
    Mike Glennon
    Matt Barkley
    Matt McGloin
    Ryan Nassib

    Or any other free agent.

  11. This is an obvius smoke screen. The bills just dont want anyone leap frogging the to take a qb in the draft, so its better to create the sense that they are ok with CJ.

  12. As a Bills fan, we have learned that whatever QB Doug Whaley likes will be the absolute wrong choice.
    Cardale hasn’t had enough bench time to learn defensive looks, and we are going to start him?

    Doug, does Cardale have the “it” factor like your last bomb in EJ Manuel?

  13. If a team aspires to a superbowl then they need a top quarterback to get them there—Bills are better off moving on from Tyrod if they do not think he is the guy that can get them there. Bills could then explore the draft, trades,development from within, and free agency each year til they get the QB that they need. 8 of the top 10 teams according to record have very good quarterbacks (tannehill and alex smith are the exclusions). Whaley might be on the right track.

  14. Tyrod Taylor lead the Bills to a top ten scoring offense. If Whaley and McDermott believe Jones can equal or surpass Taylors accomplishments, they should go for it. If they are wrong, then they should go.

  15. Just when you think the Bills have hit rock bottom. Tyrod might not be the answer as far as a franchise QB, but he is far and away better than any option available via the draft, FA or C Jones. I am holding off purchasing my season tickets till we figure out what the Bills are doing this year at QB. Russ Brandon needs to go!

  16. They should consider moving Jones to another position to take advantage of his athletic skills. In no way is he an upgrade over Taylor. They can probably bring Taylor back at $20 million guaranteed. Nobody is going to line up to pay him that $30 million that he’s due now.This seems like posturing by both sides.

  17. Cardale Jones has all the physical tools, but he doesn’t have a firm grasp on professional fundamentals. As such he’s nowhere near ready to start. Imagine him string opposite of Tom Brady, who has everything down perfectly.

    He doesn’t even the most basic fundamentals down yet of the position as a Pro. The college and professional game couldn’t be more different. If the Bills start him, it will ruin him as a long term prospect and this will be a lost upcoming season too.

    But isn’t that the trend in Buffalo under the new ownership? Also Doug Whaley is the worst GM in the NFL. But hey, we already knew that too.

  18. Assuming they like what they’ve seen in practice, I think starting Cardale Jones is a prudent move, and as noted by 6ball above I do not think they’d end up with different record compared to overpaying Taylor.

    And please stop with the Romo talk. He’s not coming to Buffalo, and his fragile body is not going to survive more than a few games on that cold, hard Bills field.

  19. Really, really poor planning by a franchise whose fans deserve more. Being painted in to a $30 million corner on Taylor is a terrible mistake. He’s not awful, but you can’t commit that kind of money on him at this stage of his career. And your only other option is to go with another guy who plays the same style, only not as well? I really can’t figure out how Whaley still has a job. Look at all the QB’s he could have drafted in the last 4 years, but didn’t. For some reason he just doesn’t value the position as much as he should.

  20. Buffalo should have an Easter egg hunt type QB competition.

    Whichever QB can find the dildo on the field first, and bring it to the finish line…without using his hands… will be coronated as the leader of the Mighty Bills!

    How proud they will be!

  21. Wilson, Foles, Cousins, Bridgewater, Carr, Garopolo, McCarron, Lynch, Prescott, and maybe even Brisset, are all QB’s who are better than any option the Bills currently have and were available to them in the draft. If you don’t know already that you can’t win without strong play from the QB, you shouldn’t be an NFL GM.

  22. Just in case anybody had forgotten that the Buffalo Bills are one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the National Football League…

  23. Seems like the Pegulas are another NFL owner who doesn’t care much about winning a Super Bowl or getting to the playoffs as long as the money machine keeps up at full speed ahead.

  24. The Bills should keep Tyrod, but if they foolishly release him, then they should trade for A.J. McCarron from the Bengals. McCarron has 1 yr left on his rookie deal and has said he expects to be traded.

  25. The guy has a gun for a arm and the height. The doubters out there just don’t believe he has a chance to be successful.

  26. ralphwilsonisrich says:
    Feb 12, 2017 10:07 AM
    The guy has a gun for a arm and the height. The doubters out there just don’t believe he has a chance to be successful.

    ________________

    Yeah so did JaMarcus Russell, but the most important thing just like Russell that Cardale Jones don’t have is accuracy

  27. .
    Buffalo is realizing what happens when you violate drafting’s prime directive which is, “Never botch your first round pick because it sets your franchise back three years”

    Example : when the Bills reached for EJ Manuel with pick #16 in the 2013 draft they left #1 WR DeAndre Hopkins on the board. That forced them to spend their second rounder on #2 WR Robert Woods while passing on Le’veon Bell and Kawann Short. Since they were still without a#1 WR, they had to go out and overpay for Sammy Watkins the very next year. The rest is a tragic history.
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  28. Not exactly informative to just keep reporting the total of the guarantee since every outlet constantly hammering the $30.75M guarantee doesn’t bother to break it down. It’s not like Buffalo is cutting him a check for it or taking it as a 2017 salary cap hit. The guarantee is in the form of a $15.5M Option Bonus, a $12M base salary and a guarantee of $3.25M of his 2018 salary. His cap hit would be $16M in ’17 and never rises higher than the $17.7M in the last year of the deal. The dead cap consequences if they cut him after next year aren’t even all that bad. For a little perspective as starting QB cap hits go that would put him at 20th. The only starting non retreads or rookie deal guys below him are Dalton or Brady who got their money up front in their current deals.

  29. buffaloboys says:
    Feb 12, 2017 9:56 AM

    The Bills should keep Tyrod, but if they foolishly release him, then they should trade for A.J. McCarron from the Bengals. McCarron has 1 yr left on his rookie deal and has said he expects to be traded.

    Foolish or not, agreed!

  30. Why do the Bills insist on playing these bums for QB? Romo isn’t going to a team like the Bills. He’ll want to go to a team like Denver or Houston where they have a chance to win.

  31. Doug Whaley has only one requirement when drafting a QB and Cardale, EJ & Tyrod all meet that requirement…..

  32. Drop Tyrod
    Drop Goodwin
    Keep Gilmore (Rex defense abused corners)
    Keep Justin Hunter
    Start Cardale (insert Cam Newton parody)
    Draft Jamal Adams or Mike Williams #10

  33. How much work is Cardale putting in off the field? That was the issue at Ohio State. If he is working hard then the sky is the limit for him.

    In the meantime a good coaching staff can mask a lot of his inexperience by virtue of his sheer talent. If you stretch the field with a long pass early in the game, even if it’s incomplete, that helps looses things up underneath and in the running game.

    There’s only a couple of people in human history that can throw it like Cardale and I like his chances.

  34. Trade for Bridgewater. He is a franchise QB and he is only going to miss 8 games, he’s like 24 years old and one of the sharpest QBs in the game already he just needs legit playmakers around him.

  35. Good luck with that, Buffalo.

    It might be presumptuous to speak also for fans of the Dolphins and Jets, but let’s be clear: all the fans of the other three AFC East teams would love it if the Bills elevated Cardale Jones to a full-time starter.

    Tyrod Taylor is actually a reasonably good QB – probably not worth $30 M, but you could actually start him and hope to win games. Cardale Jones should be a career backup.

  36. Doug Whaley is a moron and his choice in QB’s has been piss poor at best. However, to equate his roster selections with his race is pretty silly.

    If the shoe were on the other foot, most NFL QB depth charts (1st/2nd string)are all White and in a majority of those cases, selected by White general managers. When their teams flounder in the regular season with sub .500 records (Rams, Colts immediately come to mind) the QM/QB race card is never played.

    In the case of Luck (who has an astronomical contract courtesy of Grigson), the excuse makers point to offensive line, coach, and the kitchen sink for his struggles. When Tyrod struggles (not a fan, but he’s not terrible/contract WAY too large) attack the GM and his roster.

    Go figure.

  37. Save the draft picks and do NOT go after Cutler or Romo!! C. Jones is the best “long term” option so put him in, suffer through his growing pains, and you’ve got your NFL-quality QB for the next 10 years. Taylor isn’t worth half of the $30Mil, thank him and help him pack.

  38. Doug Whaley makes personnel decisions?

    MDS where have you been- he had no clue about the directive from ownership to Rex Ryan to not play Tyrod at the end of the year.

    He is the reincarnation of Vinny Cerrato from the redskins, a guy there to do the bidding of the owner.

  39. Vic’s been spit balling a lot lately and has been wrong on most all of it.

    Hey remember that time the sports media ran with the narrative that Whaley was on the hot seat, playoffs or bust if I recall correctly, only to have he Pegulas sign him to an extension?

    Me too!

  40. theandy59 says:
    Feb 12, 2017 9:29 AM
    Wilson, Foles, Cousins, Bridgewater, Carr, Garopolo, McCarron, Lynch, Prescott, and maybe even Brisset, are all QB’s who are better than any option the Bills currently have and were available to them in the draft. If you don’t know already that you can’t win without strong play from the QB, you shouldn’t be an NFL GM.

    ————
    Bridgewater? Please child…..

  41. Matt from San Diego says:
    Feb 12, 2017 12:33 PM
    Trade for Bridgewater. He is a franchise QB and he is only going to miss 8 games, he’s like 24 years old and one of the sharpest QBs in the game already he just needs legit playmakers around him.

    ———-

    Trade for a guy who averaged fewer than 1TD per game two years in a row when he was healthy? A guy who tore his knee up and will likely decline from his already unimpressive self? Yeah…..right

  42. Start Cardale Jones?? Really. Either General Manager Doug Whaley is a descendant of Nostradamus or has inside info that USC QB Darnold is entering the 2018 draft…

  43. Tyrod had 23 td (17 pa, 6 ru) and only 6 int without sammy watkins for most of the year.

    no disrespect, but that was with throwing to goodwin, woods, and clay most of the time.

    his demeanor is also great;

    he is better than most give him credit, imho.

    he really ties the running game together.

  44. No matter what they do they won’t have a good/great quarterback. Playing Jones won’t make them better. Taylor is decent, but they aren’t winning. The Bills have major problems. Not quite bad enough to rebuild but not good enough to say they are a player or two away. Glad I’m not a Bills fan!

  45. Look everyone………….Little loser Joey is up at 640am to post on a Bills thread. He has an alarm thread connected to his pea size brain to wake him up. Why kind of loser does this? An unemployed, freedloading, 5 ID’s loser!! Sounds about right.

  46. harrisonhits2 says:
    Feb 12, 2017 9:37 AM
    Seems like the Pegulas are another NFL owner who doesn’t care much about winning a Super Bowl or getting to the playoffs as long as the money machine keeps up at full speed ahead.
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    I sure hope that doesn’t happen, but in all honestly I can’t say I have not thought about what you posted. Of all the Pats fans, you might have the best posts, you are fair and call it like you see it.

  47. shlort says:
    Feb 12, 2017 4:05 PM

    No matter what they do they won’t have a good/great quarterback. Playing Jones won’t make them better. Taylor is decent, but they aren’t winning.
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    You’ve answered your own question. If Cardale Jones can give them about the same performance as Taylor you HAVE to go with the cheaper, younger guy.

  48. There’s only a couple of people in human history that can throw it like Cardale and I like his chances
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    After his proclamation declaring the Bills had won the off-season how will anyone ever top Rex? That’s Hall of Fame stuff. He could throw it with the best of them. What a bargain he was at 5 mil per. Think about it. Rex more than made up for Brady’s fine, loss of picks and suspension. I already miss that man with the leaky gut/leaky mouth syndrome to pieces.

  49. Gee — poor old Rex Ryan was going to win Super Bowls with the Bills, just as he was going to win them with the Jets. And if some other owner is dumb enough to sign him as their HC, they’ll think he’s going to win them there, too.
    Rex Ryan is a QB/offense killer. We all knew that. But he went beyond that and took a solid defense in Buffalo and turned it into a bunch of soft turkeys.
    Now, the Bills are a rudderless ship and don’t even know who their QB is. They are the Cleveland Browns in blue.

    I warned you giddy Bills fans when they announced Rex as your new coach. I told you it was a huge mistake. And it was. Now you’ll pay for it for who knows how long? The only good news for you is he left the Jets in shambles too, so at least you’ll have one team in your division you can compete with.
    The Jets are not only a bad team, they’re a bad old team with no salary cap room! And they don’t have a QB either!

  50. This idea may not be as crazily stupid as it seems on it’s face. Ultimately one of two things is likely to happen: either Jones is a train wreck and you have the #1 pick next year in a better QB class, or he uses his physical gifts and turns into a very good QB. Granted, I think the train wreck scenario is far more likely, but it could still end well in getting an answer at QB with the #1 pick. It may be a better option than Taylor, who is a mediocre starting QB who will always have the Bills between 7-9 and 9-7. That’s not good enough, so why not swing for the fences I guess?

  51. graylingskies says:
    Feb 12, 2017 7:51 PM

    There’s only a couple of people in human history that can throw it like Cardale and I like his chances
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    Did you notice that the guys who win the long drive contests are not the same guys who win the tournaments?

  52. Having been a Bills fan since the Chuck Knox era, just the fact that starting Cardale Jones is even a topic for discussion shows just how far this team has fallen. Jones himself has gone public and admitted he is not ready to be a starting QB.

    I’ve seen this team sink low before but if Jones is the 2017 opening day QB, then Buffalo has truly hit rock bottom and will not win one single game all season.

    You have no idea (except maybe Browns fans) how depressing and embarrassing this really is!

  53. Oh, spare me, now I actually am relieved, as the Bills putting this out, actually means that they have already decided to resign Tyrod Taylor (as the should) and are simply trying to improve their bargaining position with this posturing, in reality, it won’t make them look smart it will just hurt the perception of them around the league and further reinforce the idea that the Bills are “unwilling to pay to keep their players) and furthers the dysfunction..

  54. At least the chain of command is intact. You certainly don’t want someone insignificant deciding who the starting QB is. You know, like the head coach.

    Why do I hear circus music in my head whenever I read stories about the Bills?

  55. You are all reacting to nothing more than negotiation. Comments are planted to assist in effort to get Taylor contract messaged to reality. Do you expect Buffalo GM to get quoted in suggesting “Free agent qbs with options are not interested in coming to Buffalo. We really need Taylor or we are in crap!”

  56. why does buffalo think they can win without a legit QB? Every year they throw up their hands and go all in with some scrub

  57. If Bills cannot trade Tyrod with his current contract, that tells me all I need to know about him. Not worth it, dump him.

  58. Buffalo is realizing what happens when you violate drafting’s prime directive which is, “Never botch your first round pick because it sets your franchise back three years”

    Example : when the Bills reached for EJ Manuel with pick #16 in the 2013 draft they left #1 WR DeAndre Hopkins on the board. That forced them to spend their second rounder on #2 WR Robert Woods while passing on Le’veon Bell and Kawann Short. Since they were still without a#1 WR, they had to go out and overpay for Sammy Watkins the very next year. The rest is a tragic history.
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    In addition to that they traded up for Sammy Watkins in what was a VERY DEEP draft class at WR! They could have gotten Odell Beckham and kept their 1st round pick in 2015! Stupidity is the strong suit in Buffalo!

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