Matt Schaub, Brian Hoyer could be among 49ers’ targets

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New 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan wants to find a long-term solution at the quarterback position. But if that long-term solution turns out to be a rookie who’s not ready to start in 2017, Matt Schaub and Brian Hoyer are among the possibilities for a stopgap starter.

Schaub and Hoyer both have connections to Shanahan, and Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee writes that he expects either Schaub or Hoyer or both to be added to the 49ers’ roster.

Schaub was with Shanahan in Atlanta last season, was previously with Shanahan in Houston and has been linked to Shanahan as a possible 49ers quarterback in 2017. Schaub becomes a free agent on March 9.

Hoyer started 13 games for the Browns in 2014 when Shanahan was their offensive coordinator, and the two made for a pretty good combination, with the Browns going 7-6 in the games Hoyer started. Hoyer has heaped praise on Shanahan recently, and he also becomes a free agent on March 9.

Both Schaub and Hoyer are in their 30s and neither has ever been a great NFL starter, so they wouldn’t exactly bring a ton of excitement to San Francisco. But as available veterans go, you could do worse than Schaub and Hoyer. It shouldn’t surprise anyone if that’s the direction the 49ers decide to go in for now, while drafting a rookie quarterback for the future.

61 responses to “Matt Schaub, Brian Hoyer could be among 49ers’ targets

  1. What a waste of time. Neither Schaub or Hoyer is going to take you anywhere. At best they’re only placeholders. Why bother with these retreads? Draft a QB or trade for a quality starter. Frankly, and until you get a decent O-line, it won’t matter who you have at QB anyway. Get some good linemen and maybe you’ll be able to start fielding a competitive team.

  2. Oh yeah, let the picks begin. The SF recieving corp will start having valid cred as D backs. Maybe one goes to the pro bowl as a cornerback.

  3. v2787 says:
    Feb 18, 2017 8:13 AM
    What a waste of time. Neither Schaub or Hoyer is going to take you anywhere. At best they’re only placeholders. Why bother with these retreads? Draft a QB or trade for a quality starter. Frankly, and until you get a decent O-line, it won’t matter who you have at QB anyway. Get some good linemen and maybe you’ll be able to start fielding a competitive team.

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    Actually what you say would make them smart choices. If SF were to concede the season by just putting a cheap peice of meat back there to take the hits while they spend the resources on getting that line built up they would then be in a much better position to get a good qb to build around next year. Its also possible to use Kaep that way if they get stuck in contract. But he is a more expensive way to do that.

  4. What an exciting year ahead for 49er fans. Keep Colin Kaepernick and/or sign Matt Schaub, Brian Hoyer.
    Jed York, Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch – We’re talking Super Bowl!

  5. The 49ers don’t want to tip their hand that they’re planning to draft Mitch Trubisky at #2. They just want to put out enough of a smoke screen to make sure someone doesn’t move up to #1 and take Trubisky, or to let the Browns think they can still get Trubisky at #12. I think it’s a great idea. Bring in a veteran QB who’s already familiar with your system, then draft a young QB. The veteran QB becomes a great teacher and helps the youngster prepare to take away his job. The best case scenario is if a guy like Schaub is so good at teaching, the youngster will be ready to start game #1. If not, how about game #2?

  6. As a niner fan I dont know whether to be sad (Hoyer/Schaub??? barf!!)
    or happy that they will be in contention for the first overall pick and potentially get to pick Sam Darnold in the 2018 draft.
    Such is the life of a niner fan these days 🙁

  7. “Both Schaub and Hoyer are in their 30s and neither has ever been a great NFL starter”

    His first 6 years in Houston, if not great, were pretty damn good. A QBR of 93, a per-game average of 261, 114 TDs/64 INTs, 2 trips to the playoffs and 2 trips to the Pro Bowl. His best year he threw for almost 4800 yards. People forget that until Wade Phillips arrived in 2011, the Texans’ defense was pretty awful. 3 of the first 4 years Schaub was in Houston the team gave up more points than they scored (and they averaged 371 ppg).

    I’m not by any means saying Schaub is a great QB today, but from 2007-2012 he was definitely a top 10 QB.

  8. I would rather have Cousins or Jimmy G. But, Hoyer is a decent stop gap. I was a big fan of Tribusky. But, the more I hear about him the more nervous I get. I’d rather see a flyer on Davis Webb or Nate Peterman in the 4th or 5th.

  9. Shaub and Hoyer would be great QBs with the 49ers. Great for going 1-15 and securing the #1 pick so s to draft a real QB in 2018.

  10. SF is probably looking at a 3 year plan to get back to competitiveness.

    I’d guess that would include drafting a QB early in the 1st round, but having a stable, veteran presence on the roster to start initially and mentor the rookie.

  11. Hoyer’s not that good but not that bad, he’s exactly .500 (16-16) career starts despite being moved across 6 teams. 8608yds, 7.2ypa, 44TDs, 26INTs, 60%, 85rating. He’s average. By comparison, Carson Palmer .508, Kaep .500, Tyrod Taylor .500, Jay Cutler .489, Tannehill .481, Derek Carr .468, Stafford .455, Sam Bradford .417, Fitzpatrick .401, RG3 .366, Chad Henne .340, McCown .300, Bortles .244, Gabbert .225… Basically, average is better than the half that are below average. And if he’d been settled in one team – a team that was good around him, he’d be over .500.

  12. Since both have worked with Shanahan before, it makes sense to bring one of them in as a mentor for a probable first or second round Quarterback draftee. Shaub makes the most sense since he’s also coming out of Atlanta. I don’t know if he’ll get the $2.75 mil he got for 2016, but Shaub is a nice piece as QB2.

    With the 2nd overall pick at their disposal, the Niners can could conceivably trade that into additional draft equity. Or they take a QB (Kizer, Watson, Trubisky).

    Remember Kyle quit the Browns because he didn’t want to deal with the drama of Johnny Manziel starting. He’s also been to a Super Bowl with the likes of Matt Ryan. What a juxtaposition at the most important position in the game!

    That being said, I’m pretty sure Shanahan knows exactly what he wants at the Quarterback position and won’t settle for less.

    I’m thinking Shaub comes in as the Mentor/QB3, and Gabbert or another comparative player is on the roster as the “competition-at-the-position/hold-the-spot-guy/QB2” (Nick Foles, Case Keenum, Mike Glennon).

  13. Teams need to look at “football IQ” and not just size, weight, and arm strength. Rookies often don’t play right away as a QB’s because many cannot pick up the playbook terminology, not because they are not physically ready.

  14. Drafting a QB that you don’t feel is going to be any good is more counterproductive than signing a stop gap guy. Also, who does the QB have to throw to? Putting a young QB on a talentless offensive roster is a waste too.

  15. if romo becomes a free agent, santa clara should sign him. the only problem with that is that romo would never sign with one of the worst franchises in all of sports

  16. Johnny “Football” Manziel also ran Kyle Shannahan’s offense while in Cleveland. When you see this rumor pick up steam remember you heard it here first.

  17. cosmicconvoy says:
    Feb 18, 2017 11:16 AM
    More proof that the Niners are clueless
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    This post is emblematic of the many here that are missing the point. The signing of a veteran with a high football IQ as one of the first of many steps in the rebuilding process would actually be an indicator that the Niners may finally be getting a clue.

  18. It definitely stinks to see your team head in this direction, but it’s probably the right one. Unless there’s a sure fire QB prospect at #2, which there is not. They’d be better off signing one of these two, drafting a QB later, and trading back from #2. They have so many holes, you need the picks. It’s pretty clear what direction they’re going in.

  19. I’ll give Shanahan a lot of credit for bringing Alex Mack and Taylor Gabriel to ATL this past season but I’m not sure how it’s productive to have either of these guys, let alone both of them on your roster. That being said it’s probably all smoke and mirrors and they go with Gabbert for this season.

  20. Hoyer won 7 games as the qb of the Browns? That seems impossible since i’ve read in these comment sections that former Patriot qbs are incapable of doing anything.

  21. jag1959 says:
    Feb 18, 2017 12:21 PM

    This post is emblematic of the many here that are missing the point. The signing of a veteran with a high football IQ as one of the first of many steps in the rebuilding process would actually be an indicator that the Niners may finally be getting a clue.
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    That’s not the case. You missed the point. Signing discarded proven garbage equates to repeating the same mistake and expecting different results.

  22. First off the headline says “could be”.

    Second, the starting QB will be Jimmy G, Cousins, Or Romo.

    Third, haters can hate all they want but bottom line is Lynch and Young Shanny will have this great organization competing in no time!!

    Niner Empire on the Rise ONCE AGAIN!!!

  23. cosmicconvoy says:
    Feb 18, 2017 2:45 PM
    That’s not the case. You missed the point. Signing discarded proven garbage equates to repeating the same mistake and expecting different results.
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    They have to walk before they run. Someone has to be under center while they rebuild and there is no sense throwing a novice to the wolves. You are missing the entire point in the value of signing one of them, the Nners aren’t going to get well over night. Both Schaub and Hoyer have taken their lumps before and done okay on bad teams and are savvy enough for a younger QB to learn from. Signing either of them would be done with that in mind.

  24. Shannahan also had connections to Johnny Football. He is a free agent, and anyone can sign him for a one year contract with little risk, since they can cut him before the final roster and lose nothing.

  25. Romo is not a long term solution. His back is fragile and he has missed many games. He is also going to take up a lot of cap space. Plus he is not keen on landing on a team that is rebuilding. He has very few years left and he wants a chance to get a ring before he hangs it up. That was why he said he wanted to be traded to Denver.

  26. Levi Stadium is going to be less than half full next year, with most of who is there showing up to support the visiting team. That’s how throughly little Jed has destroyed the once-proud franchise. Shanahan & Lynch might well one day be successful at their new jobs, but it won’t be here, as long as Jed and the rest of his family are running the show, and Jed keeping right-hand-man Paraag on the payroll for unknown reasons. That guy couldn’t run a flag football team.

    1-15? That might be a bit harsh. I think that twice that many wins is possible, I’m calling 2-14. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

  27. jag1959 says:
    Feb 18, 2017 3:46 PM

    They have to walk before they run. Someone has to be under center while they rebuild and there is no sense throwing a novice to the wolves. You are missing the entire point in the value of signing one of them, the Nners aren’t going to get well over night. Both Schaub and Hoyer have taken their lumps before and done okay on bad teams and are savvy enough for a younger QB to learn from. Signing either of them would be done with that in mind.
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    It’s a complete waste of everybody’s time. Every player, coach, and employee on 49er payroll is paid to win now, not kick back and pray for tomorrow. Look how stop-gap Ryan Fitzpatrick set the Jets back at developing other QBs on the roster. It’s called taking one step forward to go two steps backwards. Get a young QB with potential, not a hack with no future. They already have Hoyer and Schaub. His name is Gabbert. That’s how sad it is.

  28. I think Schaub could actually be decent. He had his best years with Shanahan calling the plays. Somewhere along the way as the pick 6s piled up, he eventually lost his confidence. Maybe his familiarity with Shanahan will help him.

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  30. With Shaub or Hoyer as the possible answer at QB you’d think it would be impossible for anyone to say “Nobody has it better than us”. Right? Right? Looking at you ctiggs!!

  31. alleycat702 says:
    Feb 18, 2017 10:17 AM
    Bill Walsh would turn over in his grave at this news.
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    Walsh didn’t just start with Montana when he drafted Montana. His starter until mid-1980 was Steve DeBerg. I would say Hoyer/Schaub/Tyrod would be ok in that kind of role with the team under Shanahan.

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