Jimmy Garoppolo on his future: Your guess is as good as mine

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Patriots quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo doesn’t know whether he’ll remain with the Patriots or get traded this offseason, and he doesn’t sound like he has a strong preference either way.

Garoppolo appeared on Adam Schefter’s podcast and made a point of saying that he’ll accept whatever his future holds, whether that’s another year as Tom Brady’s backup in New England, or a new home in some other NFL city.

“Your guess is as good as mine,” Garoppolo said.

Garoppolo can’t stop the Patriots from trading him, nor can he force the Patriots to trade him. He could, however, exert pressure one way or the other: He could make noise about not wanting to be a backup for another year and say publicly that he wants to start, which might spur the Patriots to trade him because they don’t want an unhappy camper. Or if he wants to stay put for another year, he could announce that he won’t sign a contract extension with any team that trades for him and will test free agency in 2018, which would make teams hesitate to acquire him.

But it appears that Garoppolo isn’t trying either of those tactics. Instead, he’ll just wait and see where he ends up.

123 responses to “Jimmy Garoppolo on his future: Your guess is as good as mine

  1. As a close friend of the organization it’s looking like they are going to keep him and go the way of Joe Montana or Brett Favre with Tom Brady. That is, if the speculation that they “love” Jacoby Brissett is false.

  2. After 2 games in the NFL it’s time for a payday. All you need to do is suspend logic so you believe the smartest coach in NFL history is going to trade you the next Tom Brady.

  3. And a back up that contributed when Brady was out.

    IDK… I’d be pretty happy staying put too. Traded players quickly find out the vast disparity between playing for the Pats… and playing anywhere else.

  4. As a close friend of the organization it’s looking like they are going to keep him and go the way of Joe Montana or Brett Favre with Tom Brady. That is, if the speculation that they “love” Jacoby Brissett is false.

    Shouldn’t you know if the speculation that they “love” Jacoby Brissett is false or not? Considering you’re a “close friend of the organization” and all?

  5. He actually appeared in 9 games last year — 6 regular, 3 preseason. Stats: 9-0, 5 TDs, 0 INTs, passer rating of 113.3. As someone who has watched him play in person for some years now, I hope Belichick keeps him but will congratulate whichever team may get him.

  6. BB makes mistakes.

    But he kept 4 QBs on an NFL roster only ONE time in his 22 year head coaching career. And that was in 2000 for a guy he saw “something” in with rookie Tom Brady.

    BB had no problem shipping Cassell for a 2nd (Vrabel was in that deal). Value wasn’t that good in return for Patriots…which told me in 209 that BB wasn’t even high on a Cassell what so ever.

    What and if BB trades Jimmy for will tell me a lot on what BB thinks thinks of Jimmy after 3 years in Foxboro.

  7. exinsidetrader says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:53 AM
    Trade Brady and keep Jimmy.

    It’s the Patriot Way.
    ________________________________________

    You never know!

  8. Teams like Cleveland, Buffalo, NJJ, SF, Chicago, etc stay bad because they are clueless when it comes to QBs. Even a team like Cincy can do well if they have decent QB play a la Red Rocket.

    These teams keep recycling the same old dubs. Here’s Garoppolo, available for the right price. Sure, he’s only played 1 1/2 games, but he looked great. He was ranked just behind Carr in the draft by Shanahan. He’s certainly better than anyone coming out of the draft this year.

  9. “Your guess is as good as mine,” Garoppolo said.

    That would be a good answer to the question: When’s the last time a backup QB left NE and had any level of success?

  10. lgw91s says:

    Feb 21, 2017 11:12 AM

    I can see something creative with Cleveland. Maybe a second and fourth rounder, for both 2017 and 2018.
    —————
    Not nearly enough to land Jimmy G.

    It STARTS with a 1st rounder and will probably cost another pick possibly a 3rd or 4th rounder.

  11. .
    ” He could make noise about not wanting to be a backup for another year and say publicly that he wants to start, which might spur the Patriots to trade him because they don’t want an unhappy camper. ”

    ——–

    File that comment under “ill advised “.
    .

  12. Doesn’t JG become a free agent in 18? If Brady is still playing, minimally, the Pats would have to tag him or lock him up long term. They can’t afford that for a back up even if he is the heir apparent.

  13. captainwhodat says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:04 AM
    Brock Osweiler 2.0?…
    Sorry, BO is in a league of his own…
    _____________________

    Too bad for Houston it’s not a pro football league.

  14. “Should I Stay or Should I Go?”

    I for one will not question the logic or wisdom in how this handied by BB. Belichik is GOAT GM and HC regardless of era. Yeah, that’s a fact.

    Pat Hater

  15. Reasons I think they’ll trade Garoppolo:

    1. The Patriots do not typically like to carry three QBs on the active roster and Brisset has shown too much to be stashed on the practice squad. If Garoppolo stays Brissett takes a roster spot away from the team;

    2. Brady will play for at least three more years while Garoppolo’s contract is up in 2017;

    3. Garoppolo has the most value before the 2017 draft because it has a weak QB class;

    4. Limited snaps for Brisset if Garoppolo stays this year;

    5. Missing a 4th round pick (Deflategate);

    6. NE needs another tight end (Bennett is gone) and rush linebackers – and the draft appears to have several that could be the foundation of the future for the Patriots.

    Based on the above, the rumors that the Patriots want to keep Garoppolo absent a plethora of picks are an attempt to inflate the price of a trade. The key is going to be if the Redskins tag Cousins which removes the 49ers optimal plan and forces them to (a) gamble on an unproven rookie, (b) go with Matt Schaub or (c) trade for one of the backups (Glennon, McCarron or Garoppolo). Note that Shanahan has already spoken highly of Garoppolo.

    Assuming 49ers want Garoppolo with No. 2 = 2600. Cleveland can give No 1 or No 12 plus more picks or swap No. 12 with 32 (610 points) plus No 33 (total of 1190) plus 2018 No.1 (probably @1400) for a total of 2590 (though that is a discounted 2590 Belichick likes to have multiple picks and Cleveland picks 12 + 33 guarantees him the ability to fill with Alabama or Ohio State rookies). NE gets three blue chip players (TE OJ Howard and good linebacker this year and a good one next year – and can let Hightower walk if he has not yet signed. NE bookends the second round in 2017.

    Texans can trade Deandre Hopkins straight up (or with a 4th round draft pick) for Garoppolo. The 49ers and Bears are limited to their first round pick (2017) and probably a fourth to make up for the pick lost when Kraft surrendered.

    Belichick checkmates Goodell!

  16. Stop with the comparisons to other Pats backups or the fact he’s only played 1.5 gms. Both arguments have no merit in Garoppolo’s case. Almost universally, every film study guy or former NFL executive thinks he’s the real deal. He’s better than all the QBs in this yrs(and last yrs draft). He’s better than all the FA QBs, except MAYBE Cousins, who isn’t going anywhere, and Romo, who’s a big roll of the dice and not a QB for the future. JGs value will never be higher, and Brady isn’t going anywhere for at least 3 yrs. They won’t get a top 3 pk, But they’ll get 1rst rnd value for him. A dark horse is New Orleans. They loved him coming out, he’d be perfect in Peyton’s offense and they may be ready to part ways with Brees after next yr. He’s gone.

  17. BB had no problem shipping Cassell for a 2nd (Vrabel was in that deal). Value wasn’t that good in return for Patriots…which told me in 209 that BB wasn’t even high on a Cassell what so ever.
    ——–
    BB traded a LATE 7th round college backup QB (Cassell never even started at USC) for a 2nd round NFL draft pick and you somehow thing that was a knock on Matt Cassell?

    That’s interesting.

  18. Tom Brady makes dirt seem young. I give him all the props in the world, but this is athletics…. time wins every time and Brady is on borrowed time.

    That was a lot of “time”.

    Anyway to assume Brady continues to defy time would be foolish. He’s gonna get hurt if nothing else. They aren’t gonna trade Grap unless they are pretty sure he’s NOT the one!

  19. Nick Foles has 27TD and 2 INT in 2013 before regressing. The Patriots are not the only team who have produced QB’s who look good early then regress like Matt Flynn. It’s the hardest position in sports and can take guys a long time to get it (Rich Gannon, an older example).

    That being said, there’s more NFL game tape on Garrapalo then any college QB. It’s up to teams to review that tape and decide if he’s worth the picks to get him.

  20. Why do people fall in love with QBs just because they backed up a legend? See Ryan Mallet, Brock Osweiller (granted both were loved by the Texans).
    Brady is 37 years old, at some point the wheels are going to fall off, even if he has found the world’s greatest diet, do you think Belichek is going to give up on Garapolo if he thinks he can win championships with him.

  21. I don’t think Garoppolo is going anywhere. The Patriots are going to try to win another super bowl this year, and they saw what happened when Brissett played. They got shut out. You need two quality QBs, especially if your starter is old. I don’t know why Belichick would not want to keep Jimmy around for this season. If he leaves after the season, Bill will find another. But Belichick isn’t going to coach forever, so I don’t know how far down the road he’s looking.

  22. This is highly unusual, usually the Patriots notify the player months in advance of a trade and ask for their input…

  23. If I were a team in desperate need of a QB I would definitely trade a 1st round pick for him. Not only has he played under the GOAT coach and GOAT QB but he also broke all of Tony Romo’s records at Eastern Illinois. Why select some kid out of the draft (which isn’t very good) when you could get a real QB who could impact your team immediately. It’s a no brainer.

  24. belichickdominatedjoemontana says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:03 AM
    BB makes mistakes.

    BB had no problem shipping Cassell for a 2nd (Vrabel was in that deal). Value wasn’t that good in return for Patriots…which told me in 209 that BB wasn’t even high on a Cassell what so ever.

    What and if BB trades Jimmy for will tell me a lot on what BB thinks thinks of Jimmy after 3 years in Foxboro.
    ++++++++++++++++++++

    You may want to revisit that logic. Cassel had played out his contract year and NE had to franchise him to retain his rights in order to get something for him. Potential trade partners were trading for a 7th rounder they had all passed on through 6 rounds 3 years earlier that didn’t make the playoffs with an absolutely stacked roster around him that had gone undefeated the year before. He also would arrive already franchised so from a contract standpoint the leverage was his. Considering the circumstances Belichick got plenty for Cassel.

  25. Shouldn’t you know if the speculation that they “love” Jacoby Brissett is false or not? Considering you’re a “close friend of the organization” and all?

    ———————-

    LMAO

  26. Garoppolo hasn’t even come come to proving anything, the QBs which have left New England have failed with other teams.

  27. Why do people fall in love with QBs just because they backed up a legend? See Ryan Mallet, Brock Osweiller (granted both were loved by the Texans).
    Brady is 37 years old, at some point the wheels are going to fall off, even if he has found the world’s greatest diet, do you think Belichek is going to give up on Garapolo if he thinks he can win championships with him.
    ———-
    Mallett was traded for a 7th round pick.
    Tom Brady is 39. He’ll turn 40 before next regular season starts.

  28. charliecharger says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:33 AM
    I don’t think Garoppolo is going anywhere. The Patriots are going to try to win another super bowl this year, and they saw what happened when Brissett played. They got shut out.
    ++++++++++++++++++

    They got shutout when he was forced to play with an injury that required surgery. They also pitched a shutout while scoring 27 against one of the best defenses in the league with Brissette under center in his first career start. No matter how you look at it the Patriots are in pretty good shape at QB.

  29. Brissett isn’t a keeper; Garoppolo definitely is. Tommy at QB1, Jimmy at QB 2.

    Yes, Brady is in great shape, but at his age it will definitely be harder to come back from an injury quickly. Brady’s diet and extreme regiment keeps him healthy and ageless, but it can’t prevent a 300 lineman from falling on his legs or landing on a shoulder.

    Keep Jimmy G. Play Brissett a lot in pre-season and strike up a market for him this year or next.

  30. Nobody is going to give a 1st and a 4th for Garoppolo. You can’t give up that much AND give the guy free agent money unless you are a contender that is only a QB away.

    The most a team could really offer would be a second rounder, and the Pats may prefer to keep Garoppolo as a backup as they can recoup a 3rd rounder as compensation for him leaving as a free agent.

  31. @ charliecharger

    Charlie – Brissette was the only QB on the roster in the game in which he played and they got shut out.

    He played the Bills game with a broken thumb (he broke it the previous week in their win).

    He went in for thumb surgery the following week.

    Even Rex Ryan knew the Pats couldn’t do anything except hand off and run the ball.

    That kid took one for the team. BB was over the top in his praise for him. Nothing to dislike either. Strong arm and can run. In pre season he reminded you of a Reothliesberger type (Please don’t say I am comparing him to Big Ben) – big, strong, can run and tough to bring down.

  32. The Patriots are going to try to win another super bowl this year, and they saw what happened when Brissett played. They got shut out.
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    Brissett also won 27-0 the week before vs Houston (a playoff team).

  33. The best deal in my mind is the Texans trading the 25th pick in the first round for him. That would give the Patriots 2 first rounders which they can use or trade for more picks and the Texans would have at least another option at QB. No team would give up more than that for him (maybe a later round pick in this draft as well) just because he only has a game and a half of film.

    And don’t give me the “you can’t compare him to previous backup QB’s” spin. All of them have had the same background – backups who looked good in the Pats system when they had the chance, then all went to other systems and looked average to below average. NFL teams take all of that into consideration before handing over valuable picks to an unknown.

    Finally, I think the last time a team gave up a 1st round pick for a backup QB was Rob Johnson to Buffalo, and we know how that went.

  34. New England>Your Team says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:56 AM
    Jimmy G 2 Super Bowls

    Aaron Rodgers 1 Super Bowl

    Stats don’t lie.
    —————————–
    Jimmy G – Started 2 games…..yeah he sure did help those Patriots win a SB…..smh

  35. belichickdominatedjoemontana says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:03 AM
    BB makes mistakes.

    But he kept 4 QBs on an NFL roster only ONE time in his 22 year head coaching career. And that was in 2000 for a guy he saw “something” in with rookie Tom Brady.

    BB had no problem shipping Cassell for a 2nd (Vrabel was in that deal). Value wasn’t that good in return for Patriots…which told me in 209 that BB wasn’t even high on a Cassell what so ever.

    What and if BB trades Jimmy for will tell me a lot on what BB thinks thinks of Jimmy after 3 years in Foxboro.

    ______________________

    Pats got no value on that trade because it was basically a favor to get Scott Pioli rolling in KC.

  36. New England>Your Team says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:56 AM
    Jimmy G 2 Super Bowls

    Aaron Rodgers 1 Super Bowl

    Stats don’t lie.

    *****************************

    Jim McMahon has 2 Super Bowl rings also both from The Patriots, just saying.

  37. nutpunchnancy says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:19 AM
    Doesn’t JG become a free agent in 18? If Brady is still playing,…They can’t afford that for a back up even if he is the heir apparent

    charliecharger says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:33 AM
    I don’t think Garoppolo is going anywhere… they saw what happened when Brissett played. They got shut out.

    ————————
    1. Pats are $63M under the cap this year and no sign of overspending coming up so could pay JimmyG 3 times over.
    2. JacobyB played that game with an injured throwing hand. The game before that he played in big victory.

  38. “BB had no problem shipping Cassell for a 2nd (Vrabel was in that deal)”

    Vrabel was tremendous for the Pats, though I can’t remember who they used the pick on.

  39. deneb1973, interesting post but you are bizarrely overvaluing Garoppolo because Garoppolo is not under contract. You are trading for him for 1 year, 2 years tops and then you have to compete with everyone to sign him. Look at what Cousins is doing to Washington.

    There is a chance a team like Houston with a low first round pick will swing a deal for Garoppolo and then deal with the contract issue later. That would be a bad long term investment but teams do that all the time. I’d be much more surprised if the Browns for some reason gave up the 12th pick in a loaded draft for the right to sign Garoppolo as a free agent. Regardless, the idea that SF would trade #2 overall is just difficult to comprehend. The Niners already have the worst roster in the sport, they can’t afford to trade the #2 pick for the right to sign a free agent. I’m sure if they were so anxious to trade the #2 pick that Washington would take it for Cousins in a heartbeat.

  40. .
    @tedmurph

    ” A dark horse is New Orleans. They loved him coming out, he’d be perfect in Peyton’s offense ”
    ________

    Astute analysis……. Not only are there teams in desperate need of a QB, there’s several other teams that have QBs in the twilight of their careers. Manning, Rivers, Rogers Roethlisberger and Brees are among that group. Based upon the dearth of quality QB talent that has entered the NFL in the last 5-10 years, one has to wonder where are the comparable replacements?

    Markets are driven by a variety of factors, however the prime mover is always supply and demand. There’s much more demand for the services of Jimmy Garopollo than just Cleveland and the 49ers.

    Every GM in the league knows that the quickest way to the unemployment line is to have QB instability.
    .

  41. 31 other franchises in the league, yet new england seems to put itself into more win-win situations with personnel than any of the others.

  42. Folks, if Garoppolo was any good Belichick wouldn’t trade him especially when his starting QB has already started to receive AARP offers in the mail. Belichick is not stupid people.

  43. I think they trade him. Brady is going to be good for 3 more years (I know, I know…just a guess) and you won’t be able to pay to shelve Garoppolo that long, nor will he want to be. Belichick will take the best deal he can get for him, which will be enhanced by not revealing the plan, if any, for Jimmy G in Foxboro.

    I also think they like Brissett more than most think, plus it gives them time to draft another QB in the next 2-3 years if they think they need to.

  44. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Feb 21, 2017 12:07 PM

    Folks, if Garoppolo was any good Belichick wouldn’t trade him especially when his starting QB has already started to receive AARP offers in the mail. Belichick is not stupid people.
    ————————————
    If Belichick is smart he’ll trade him now and get something for him. Garoppolo isn’t sticking around to wait another 4-5 years to get a chance to start. Once his contract is up he’s out of there in a heartbeat.

  45. The second tactic would likely get him demoted to 3rd string and deactivated for the entire season…

  46. Love his answer. I think more NFL players should reply with the same line to several reporter’s questions. Not only would I get a laugh out of it, but I’m sure it would drive some journalists insane. Think about it… Like if Belicheck replied with this same line to every reporter’s question, or Marshawn Lynch, or anyone. It would be hilarious. Obnoxious over time, but still hilarious.

  47. Della Street says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:51 AM

    Pats got no value on that trade because it was basically a favor to get Scott Pioli rolling in KC.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    No value? They traded a franchised 7th rounder and an aging Vrabel for the 34th pick in the draft.

  48. The haters that don’t have even one good QB on their team’s roster have their panties in a bunch over the fact the Patriots may have three and are likely to trade one for a nice haul of draft choices.

    The Pats are are about to reload gain with young players they have developed, draft choices, compensatory draft choices, draft choices received in trades (the haters hate this because they see it as other teams helping the Pats), undrafted free agents, and veteran free agents that want to play for a winner.

    In the words of Yogi Berra, “It’s déjà vu all over again” and the redundancy makes sense.

  49. Obviuosly, another selfish act by attention seeking Brady who wants to play until he is 60 to stay in the spotlight. He should bow out now (there are no higher mountains for him to climb) to allow his team to keep a prized QB that is capable of winning more Super Bowls in the future. Tammy, Tammy, Tammy…………. you can’t keep your looks forever! Sigh.

  50. simplec72 says:
    Feb 21, 2017 12:22 PM
    Bill and Tom will retire at the same time. Neither care who the backup is, or will be. Mr. G, pack your bags. You’ve already been traded.

    ———

    We true Patriots fans would like to see a succession plan at QB. The let’s trade Garoppolo crowd is terrified at the thought of Belichick may just decide to stick around if there is a QB in place and continue to win.

    Tee hee!

  51. I would never trade a 1st round pick for him. If he is that good, no way Bellichick would trade him at all; not with Brady nearing retirement. If Bellichick is willing to trade him at all, then he is probably just middling and only worth a 2nd round pick at most. Plus, he has done a nice job in Patriot’s system, but will he do that good when he is not surrounded with top-notch coaching and players?

    Sure, the QBs coming out this year aren’t great, but that’s justification for not drafting any of them in the 1st round, not for trading a top pick for a QB who probably doesn’t have a 1st round grade. The best teams rarely make a “reach pick” in the 1st round. Trading a 1st for Garrapolo is a reach.

  52. redlikethepig says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:45 AM
    All you need to do is suspend logic so you believe the smartest coach in NFL history is going to trade you the next Tom Brady.

    ———————-

    I think it comes down to exactly that. A viable replacement for Brady is the most impossible thing to find, most figured it wouldnt happen and the Pats are doomed for a big drop when retirement comes. If Belichick truly thinks he has in his hands the answer to that dilemma there is no way he is taking any offer for him, he will find a way to hang on even if that means having both under heavy contract at the same time. I think if Belichick is willing to take any deal, no matter how bountiful, for JG then thats a sign that BB is not as sure about JG as it might appear.

  53. Any guys saying JimmyG isn’t worth a 1st-rounder are fooling themselves – you are saying you’d prefer your team to draft Trubisky or some other unknown quantity? Compared to such unknowns, and especially in such an important difficult-to-fill position, JimmyG is worth two or three 1st rounders plus additional sweeteners. 1st-rounders often end up busts anyway, and so he’d rather keep JimmyG as a sure-fire ready-to-roll backup for a repeat-SB run – and I don’t think any team out there can give BB enough to overcome that carrot – so long as JimmyG is happy to play backup another season. And BB has plenty of talent and enough ($63M) cap space to keep all his FAs, and plenty of other picks anyway.

  54. If I were BB, my tactics would be: tell no one but JG what the extension offer through 2020 is, tell JG that any leak of the offer would be grounds for its withdrawal, negotiate if it’s in the best interest of the team to meet somewhere in-between. Keep it very quiet – for y

    BB is not talking JG up – and with good reason. He wants to keep him. He’s the second-best QB in the division in a league that proves the QB is everything to winning.

  55. “He was ranked just behind Carr in the draft by Shanahan.”
    _________

    Take that with a grain of salt. Kyle Shanahan is notorious for changing his stories on who he liked in drafts. He once claimed he wanted to draft John Beck with the 10th pick when he was with the Texans. But then when Beck didn’t make it with the Redskins, Kyle retreated from that claim very quickly. Unless somebody has it on tape from before the draft I wouldn’t bet money he even had Carr as his clear #1.

  56. Jimmy only has one year left on his contract and then he’s a free agent.

    The Patriots would only keep him for one of two reasons:

    1. The trade value isn’t high enough to offset the risk of Brady missing a few games or falling off a cliff in 2017. In that case you still have a serviceable back up in Brissett and an off year after 2 out 3 Super Bowls wouldn’t kill the franchise. There would have to be a lot of perceived risk to hold him just to have him walk for no value next year.

    2. Garoppolo is the long term option at QB. You try to sign him at a starters salary early this year instead of letting him hit the open market at the end of 2017 and you basically let Brady know he probably won’t be the starter in 2018.

    I vote for the trade. If you get a top 5 pick, as some pundits are predicting, then it’s a no brainer but it probably makes sense if it is any first rounder or two second rounders. You could even try to get a first rounder for next year and take a QB then, which buys some time have it really be Brady’s heir apparent.

    I just don’t see the third option happening, which is do nothing and keep Jimmy and then let him walk in free agency next year, which would almost be certain. They can carry him for pretty cheap, but if you have a shot at a top 5 pick, which rarely happens for a team of this stature, you have to take it. The only option that could happen would be to stay status quo and maybe move him during the season, but I think the value would be lower.

  57. Once Brady leaves, Belichick will leave as well. We all know Belichick only coaches because has a HOF QB who cheats.

    *********

    I see you took some of irsay’s prescriptions to have delusions of this magnitude.

  58. docsmith54 says:
    Feb 21, 2017 1:42 PM
    If I were BB, my tactics would be: tell no one but JG what the extension offer through 2020 is, tell JG that any leak of the offer would be grounds for its withdrawal, negotiate if it’s in the best interest of the team to meet somewhere in-between. Keep it very quiet – for y
    BB is not talking JG up – and with good reason. He wants to keep him. He’s the second-best QB in the division in a league that proves the QB is everything to winning.

    ———–

    You can’t pay two franchise QBs. To sign Garoppolo you would have to offer him top dollar which he knows he will get in free agency next year. He would want more than Brady gets now, which means he would expect to start in 2018 at the latest. Offering Garoppolo that deal means you have to move on from Brady after this year.

  59. exinsidetrader says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:53 AM

    Trade Brady and keep Jimmy.

    It’s the Patriot Way.
    ————————————————————-
    Ain’t that the truth.

    I have a hard time seeing the league’s least sentimental franchise re-up Brady for 3 years at the age of 40.

  60. streetyson says:
    Feb 21, 2017 1:39 PM
    Any guys saying JimmyG isn’t worth a 1st-rounder are fooling themselves – you are saying you’d prefer your team to draft Trubisky or some other unknown quantity? Compared to such unknowns, and especially in such an important difficult-to-fill position, JimmyG is worth two or three 1st rounders plus additional sweeteners. 1st-rounders often end up busts anyway, and so he’d rather keep JimmyG as a sure-fire ready-to-roll backup for a repeat-SB run – and I don’t think any team out there can give BB enough to overcome that carrot – so long as JimmyG is happy to play backup another season. And BB has plenty of talent and enough ($63M) cap space to keep all his FAs, and plenty of other picks anyway.

    ———–

    Yeah… but if you can get the picks that you are saying he is worth then you have to trade him. Waiting for a year for Free Agency means you probably lose the chance to sign him and you lose the chance to trade him. One year of a back up isn’t worth a first rounder, let along multiple first rounders.

  61. theghostofberniekosar says:
    Feb 21, 2017 1:32 PM
    There is ZERO chance the Pats can get a first round pick for Jimmy G.

    —————–

    Jared Goff went for two firsts, two seconds and two thirds. He rode the bench all year.

    I think you will be shocked at what people will be willing to cough up for Garoppolo. Particularly when the top 3 teams in the draft badly need a QB and they are all out of division for the Patriots.

  62. WasLemmytoocontroversial? says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:49 AM
    We actually know more about JG than we did about TB when TB was called to action. Then again, 6 quarters of football isn’t exactly a large sample but looked promising.

    ————-

    He looked great, but also couldn’t stay on the field for two games. Not a great sign from a durability perspective.

  63. People that keep saying they should keep him are forgetting about the money. It’s the ‘let’s sign everyone’ crowd. If they did that, the QB position would cost at least 40 mil in 2018. Never gonna happen.

  64. theghostofberniekosar says:
    Feb 21, 2017 1:32 PM
    There is ZERO chance the Pats can get a first round pick for Jimmy G.

    “””””””””””””””””””””””

    The thing is, they spent a second rounder just to get him and thats before all the development. So anything less than a first rounder and they are getting back less than they invested. Thats what I think the ZERO chance is that they would take less than they invested.

  65. In real estate and in football the market is the market. Sorry haters, it’s a hot market for Garoppolo. There are a number of teams that need a starter, preferably a young one that they can ride for years. There is slim pickings in the draft and in available veterans.

    Garoppolo might have a small sample size but anyone who knows anything about the position could see that he can both make the right decision and execute the play. Knowing how to play the position and reading defenses is as important as physical skills. You need both to be be successful in the NFL and you need confidence which he has in abundance.

    If you are a GM or a head coach you are toast if you can’t compete for the playoffs. That requires a quarterback that and justifies the risk of potentially overpaying because the picks won’t mean anything to you if you are fired.

  66. Look for a repeat of this year?

    Part of Brady’s success late in the season and into the Super Bowl was due to his playing a shortened season—four fewer regular season games and fewer preseason reps.

    Look for Jimmy G. to start a handful of games in 2017 and for Jacoby B. to move over to slot receiver or WR.

  67. If you think he is better than any of the QBs in the draft then you make the trade for him. Trades only work if you have partners willing to trade. I personally think Cleveland, SF, and Chicago would be smart to offer their #1 for him. Houston as well.

  68. bullcharger says:
    Feb 21, 2017 2:18 PM
    WasLemmytoocontroversial? says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:49 AM
    We actually know more about JG than we did about TB when TB was called to action. Then again, 6 quarters of football isn’t exactly a large sample but looked promising.

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    He looked great, but also couldn’t stay on the field for two games. Not a great sign from a durability perspective.

    Agreed but let’s face facts, every play could be any players last play. Some portion of a player’s durability can be attributed to luck. How likely is it that your starting and backup QB’s get injured in successive weeks? Cleveland may have the answer. Is it bad O-line play?

    How good could Joe T have been career wise had LT not broken his leg? You have fans here praying for a rogue D-liner to roll up on Brady, penalty & fines notwithstanding. Probably a couple of teams in the AFC already have that in their game plan since nothing else seems to work.

  69. blkandgld4eva says:
    Feb 21, 2017 11:12 AM

    “Your guess is as good as mine,” Garoppolo said.

    That would be a good answer to the question: When’s the last time a backup QB left NE and had any level of success?

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    No, the good answer to that is Matt Cassel winning the AFC West with the Chiefs after leaving NE.

  70. Jimmy is not i repeat is not worth the 12th pick in the first round..being a browns fan I’d hate to even give up a second rounder for him. 6 quarters of football is just too small of a sample size for a system guy. The most I’d give up for him is a 3rd rounder and a 2018 conditional pick that determines on how good he does wit his new team. That’s it take it or leave it new england!!!!

  71. He may be worth the risk, he may not. He has very limited footage but it has been positive.

    He is as much a risk as any of the rookies coming out with more financial risk attached.

  72. pittsburghdamned says:
    Feb 21, 2017 4:31 PM

    He better find a team employing the Dink-n-Dunk, pick-n-roll offense.
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    I guess you must have missed the AFC title game where the Patriots winged the ball all over the field and James Harrison attempted to cover a bunch of speedy WRs.

    I’d say it was awesome, but a better description would be to say it was hilarious. Everyone in my media room was laughing their arse off watching the Steelers coaching stuff trying to figure out what was happening.

  73. The patriots would have to hold a fun to my head for me to give them the #12 pick and even then id prolly just tell them to pull the trigger and shoot me

  74. Funny how Pats fans think that Garoppolo is worth a top 5 pick because “any other QB in the draft have no experience”. That’s the dumbest argument you can have.

    Having 1.5 games of experience means absolutely nothing. No, you can’t compare him to QB’s in the draft, but you can absolutely compare him to previous backup QB’s who looked great in short amounts of game time and cashed in on deals with other teams.

  75. “He better find a team employing the Dink-n-Dunk, pick-n-roll offense.”

    Pats were second in the league in completed passes of over 20 yards in the air, only Atlanta had more last season.

    But keep repeating the same tired, disproven things about the Pats as if it makes you look like you know what you’re talking about.

    Lolz

  76. “No, the good answer to that is Matt Cassel winning the AFC West with the Chiefs after leaving NE.”

    And Hoyer won 7 games for Cleveland, that’s like winning 12 on a good team lol.

  77. Patriots should keep Prince Aladdin, and have him play the first 4 games again, and thus allow Brady to play even longer. It will keep JG fresh, and allow Brady to be able to be still throwing strong deep into the playoffs again.

  78. The thing is, they spent a second rounder just to get him and thats before all the development. So anything less than a first rounder and they are getting back less than they invested. Thats what I think the ZERO chance is that they would take less than they invested.
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    Tell that to Jaime Collins (spent a 2nd, got back a 3rd).

    Teams will make a decision as to a players value and then go from there. Being a high draft pick only matters when there is no tape of you or limited tape. Once there is tape on you, your value is based on production and/or results. Draft status is completely ignored.

    So the real question is,….with limited tape on him, though mostly positive, what is his value in the open market. Teams overpay all the time for various reasons but teams also move different directions quite often as well. Of all the qb needy teams, most have the availability of aquiring other unproven or much more proven than Garoppolo . We will find out soon enough. I would not be surprised if the market isnt nearly as hot as some think, nor would I be surprised if it was.

  79. Jimmy is not i repeat is not worth the 12th pick in the first round..being a browns fan I’d hate to even give up a second rounder for him. 6 quarters of football is just too small of a sample size for a system guy. The most I’d give up for him is a 3rd rounder and a 2018 conditional pick that determines on how good he does wit his new team. That’s it take it or leave it new england!!!!
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    Yes, far better to gamble on a draft pick in a weak QB class than sign a guy who has shown he can read defenses well and throw accurately.

  80. Brady is one serious injury away from retirement. Just look what happened when Carr went down last year for Oakland…and they had crappy back-up QB’s. The Raiders…a very good team on a roll…and a serious threat to the Patriots…they turned into dog meat. Belichick must keep Jimmy G. for insurance purposes.

  81. tjacks7 says:
    Feb 21, 2017 10:56 AM

    As a close friend of the organization it’s looking like they are going to keep him and go the way of Joe Montana or Brett Favre with Tom Brady. That is, if the speculation that they “love” Jacoby Brissett is false.

    Shouldn’t you know if the speculation that they “love” Jacoby Brissett is false or not? Considering you’re a “close friend of the organization” and all?

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    Maybe he meant to say he was a close friend of the organ. (sorry. that was low hanging fruit)

  82. Supply vs demand.

    Unless you have the Cowboys offensive line and studs all over the field a rookie QB is not taking a GM and a coach to a visible improvement in the won loss column. Garoppolo is the best bet and their are at least seven teams that have to bet on someone.

    Sorry haters, Belichick has value to trade and will be getting value in return. Most of us Pats fans would love to keep him but Brady is showing no signs of slowing down. He looks to have 3 to 5 more years left. That’s a reign of 20 years. Jommy won’t be our Steve Young but at least one GM will bet big on him.

  83. “That would be a good answer to the question: When’s the last time a backup QB left NE and had any level of success?”

    Matt Cassell, Brian Hoyer, and Ryan Mallett have all started for other teams. Is there another franchise that has had three backups start for other teams?

    Cassell even made the Pro Bowl one year.

    I don’t see how any of these things would relate to Garoppolo.

  84. How many games has Tom Brady played behind that line? How many times has he been injured? Jimmy G got injured seriously after his 5th time being hit this year – red flag!

    1.5 games of tape is not enough.

    Matt Cassell was traded for a second rounder.

    No one will give up a first or second rounder for a guy that they can’t control. Other teams will see how he plays and can go after him next year in free agency if he’s good. If he’s not amazing, he won’t be franchised and given 27 mill after the year. He’s an UFA after this year.

  85. Pats got no value on that trade because it was basically a favor to get Scott Pioli rolling in KC
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    With that 2nd round pick the Pats took Patrick Chung, who eventually left for Philly, came back and has started and played very well for two Super Bowl winners.
    A little better than no value.

  86. Jimmy G 2 Super Bowls
    Aaron Rodgers 1 Super Bowl
    Stats don’t lie.

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    Aaron Rodgers, Super Bowl MVP.
    Jimmy G, never got his ass of the bench in either game and was merely a spectator who didn’t have to buy a ticket. In fact, stats sometimes lie their asses off.

  87. Former Brady backup QBs like Cassel, Hoyer, Mallett, etc… were just backups. None were drafted in upper rounds. They were not drafted as Brady’s heir apparent. All franchise quarterbacks have backups. Again, those are just backups because Brady was in his physical prime. But Jimmy is different because he was drafted in the highest round and intended to be heir apparent. So stop comparing him to Cassel/Hoyer/Mallett. They are not the same!

    From the eye test, Jimmy is the real deal to me.

  88. drewbrewer says:
    Feb 21, 2017 7:42 PM

    The Raiders…a very good team on a roll…and a serious threat to the Patriots…they turned into dog meat.
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    A serious threat to the Patriots? The Carr injury only saved them from getting rolled 40-20 by NE on their way to the SB.

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