Jaguars grew tired of “non-existent” blocking from Julius Thomas

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Julius Thomas is on the way out in Jacksonville, just two years into a five-year contract. A big part of the reason for that is he never became the receiving threat for the Jaguars that he had been for the Broncos.

But another part of it is that the Jaguars grew tired of Thomas’s limitations as a blocker, and the effect that had on the Jaguars’ offense.

His blocking was non-existent,” a source told the Florida Times-Union. “If he was on the field, he was the second tight end and that meant a receiver came off the field and the team speed went down. And if he was on the field with Robinson, Hurns and Lee, it was a clear giveaway to defenses that it was a pass or a run away from him because he couldn’t be at the point of attack.”

Thomas will now go to Miami, where head coach Adam Gase, who previously coached Thomas in Denver, apparently thinks he can make it work with a tight end who is a liability on running plays.

52 responses to “Jaguars grew tired of “non-existent” blocking from Julius Thomas

  1. Maybe Jacksonville’s GM and coaches should have looked at Julius Thomas’ film in Denver? Because he didn’t do a whole bunch of that there. It would be a dysfunctional organization like the Jaguars to retroactively criticize a player for not doing something they never really did before.

    Thomas not blocking is a theme apparently for their team because Bortles can’t play quarterback, Yeldon can’t play running back, Ivory can’t stay healthy, Allen Robinson can’t be found, Allen Hurns can’t be consistent, their offensive line can’t block, and 11 guys on their defense can’t defend.

    Dumpster fire.

  2. Classic case of a bad team not knowing how to use a player on its roster to maximize his skill set. Thomas didn’t block in Denver either. He was a huge mismatch in the redzone who caught 10 tds a year.

    Chris Hogan in Buffalo
    Wes Welker in Miami
    Martellus Bennet in Chicago
    Taylor Gabriel in Cleveland

    Teams who don’t know who they are have a tough time making the most of what players skill set is

  3. sdchicken says:
    Feb 26, 2017 6:45 AM
    Classic case of a bad team not knowing how to use a player on its roster to maximize his skill set. Thomas didn’t block in Denver either. He was a huge mismatch in the redzone who caught 10 tds a year.

    Chris Hogan in Buffalo
    Wes Welker in Miami
    Martellus Bennet in Chicago
    Taylor Gabriel in Cleveland

    Teams who don’t know who they are have a tough time making the most of what players skill set is

    ——–

    So, Bennett’s 200-ish catches for 2,000+ yards and 14 TDs in three years must have been horrible for his career. He was traded because he was becoming a disruption over his contract (like the Bennett boys always do) and Zach Miller was also performing well, at the time. If you’re gonna throw a guy on the list, at least know what you’re talking about.

  4. He was on a bad team with bad coaching. He’ll do better in Miami, because if he doesn’t Gase will bench him no matter how much they’re paying him.

  5. “Non-existent blocking.”

    Cold.

    But another lesson in the perils of signing big buck$$ free agents.

  6. What about their “Non-existent” blocking from their O-line in particular Luke Joekle?

  7. Illustrates the difference between coaches that utilize a players’ strengths and those who try to force the players into a pre-determined offense or defense. Flexible coaches consistently and quickly win while inflexible coaches must buil a team that fits their system. Belichick, McDaniels, Shannahan, Gace etc have cracked the code. Maybe owners and GMs will look for innovative coaches rather than “names”.

  8. It is AMAZING the free pass that the team and players get from the media here in Jville.

    Noone ever gets called out for poor play or bad decision making.

    Gus Bradley was the absolute WORST Head Coach I have ever seen. He was so bad – I truly question whether the guy knows anything above a HS level of football. he was THAT bad. But around here? All we ever heard was “Gus is a good man”. WHAT? I guess phony enthusiasm can really take you far in this world.

    So Julius never blocked? He had that rep coming in here…what did they think – give him$45m and then he will START blocking?

    Hilarious!

    Glad Tom C and Doug marone are running the show…but until the Jags SHOW something…the entire organization is a JOKE.

    Shad Kahn lets his kid run “analytics” – How’s that working out?

    Shad Kahn hired “executive search firm Korn Ferry” to help with head coach search. What a joke.

  9. I will give credit to Gene Frenette …forgot about him here in Jville. He is one of the very few “non homers” who is not afraid to call out the Kitty Cats for their weak patheticness.

  10. Yea let’s blame the one guy who couldn’t stay on the field… classy move Jaguars. You win as a team , lose as a team. So with all the losses you consistently have. It’s definitely more of a problem than just 1 guy being a liability at blocking.Only thing in J vile that’s a liability is the their inability to get consistent talent from anyone on roster. It’s a dumpster fire until it isn’t.

  11. I completely agree with everything in the article but this isn’t new information. Denver didn’t even try to sign him and the Jags knew this when they signed him to big money. The only thing missing in the article is that Thomas is so fragile he has no interest in blocking for fear of getting injured so it isn’t just a matter of “can’t” but “doesn’t want to” which to me is a bigger problem. Shannon Sharp was not a great blocker but he efforted the point of attack, often to little success.

  12. sdchicken:

    Good comments except i take exception with you using Wes Welker as an example. Miami knew what they had in him and he had outstanding seasons in Miami. The problem was that they Patriots outbid Miami for his services. That happens in the NFL.

  13. We can add to your List Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonzo in Philly. Both were very good with Kiko being outstanding. Sure, being healthy has something to do with it, but the right Coach and schemes. The Jags have been top drafting for a decade and can’t produce a winning product? Umm… look n the mirtor before you blame the star TE.

  14. welker caught 67 balls from cleo lemon in 2006

    it has to do with team quality and who the qb was, not the
    skill set or how they were used

    millennials are funny

    they try to sound smart, but they’re generally not

  15. tylawspick6 says:
    Feb 26, 2017 10:50 AM
    welker caught 67 balls from cleo lemon in 2006

    it has to do with team quality and who the qb was, not the
    skill set or how they were used

    millennials are funny

    they try to sound smart, but they’re generally not
    _________________

    If you’re going to say people aren’t smart, it’s generally a good idea to have at least a 5th grade understanding of grammar when doing so. This includes capitalizing names, the beginning of sentences, and using proper punctuation. If you knew how to do this, your message would have looked like this:

    Welker caught 67 balls from Cleo Lemon in 2006.

    A player’s production has to do with the quality of the team and who the QB is, not just the player’s skill set and how they were used.

    Millenials are funny, but then they try to sound smart and generally are not.

    Feel free to use these grammar tips anytime bud.

  16. If you signed Thomas expecting that we would magically become an effective blocker once you paid him a ton of money, well…..

  17. @gcgrimes2014 You need to revisit your football history. NE didn’t “outbid” Miami, they traded a couple of draft picks for him. A 2 and a 4 I believe. So the point is correct. The Phins traded one of the best slot receivers in history for a 2 and a 4.

  18. A clear problem with many tight ends these days….they either are receivers or blockers. Very few take pride in both. If a tight end is a legit receiving threat no one expects them to be a road grating blocker, but they should at least be effective and not a liability.

  19. That big money contract also reduced his motvation to non-existent too. This is what one calls an addition by subtraction. Good luck on your next team you bum.

  20. “gcgrimes2014 says:
    Feb 26, 2017 9:22 AM
    sdchicken:

    Good comments except i take exception with you using Wes Welker as an example. Miami knew what they had in him and he had outstanding seasons in Miami. The problem was that they Patriots outbid Miami for his services. That happens in the NFL.”

    Not to mention that the Pats put a poison pill clause in the contract that made it impossible for the Phins to even try to match it.

  21. “Understandable when your team ain’t a going nowhere.”

    Nope, Thats a loser mentality.

    Lazy is not allowed on the football field.

  22. “Chris Hogan put up almost identical stats in Buffalo as he he did in NE.”

    You are kind of right. You can see the diffrence between a HOF qb throwing to hogan and a middle of the ground qb

  23. These comments are annoying as hell. Any fan of the NFL who watched Thomas succeed in Denver knows he was used incorrectly in Jacksonville. This isn’t some breaking story that we were oblivious to before reading. Yet people here are quick to comment about the Jaguars being a bad organization, as if every other team in the NFL is infallible. This isn’t the first time a free agent got paid well and performed poorly on a different team. But because the Jaguars are an easy target, everyone seems to want to make a mountain out of an ant hill.

    We normally don’t see this many trolls on Jaguars news articles. It must be all of those AFC East/Brady fanboys coming out from under their bridges to meet their douche quota for the week. It would be nice if this weren’t a Dolphins tagged article until March 9th when we know for sure the trade is actually going to happen. Seems like terrible timing for someone in the Jags organization to put a magnifying glass on a players’ shortcomings before the pending trade even happens. A lot can change before March 9th.

  24. There are very few true TE’s in the league that can actually both block and catch. The likes of Witten, Olson, Bennett, Gronk, etc are a rare breed. Thomas chose money over winning, as does any football player that goes from a perennial playoff team to a revolving dumpster fire.

  25. Dabears,

    I’m sure you are Salty because your team gave away Bennet for nothing, but if you did your homework you would realize that he had the most TD’s of his career this year with Patriots, including 6 games with a bone fragment in his ankle. He was used in a manner that maximized his skills and the result was his best season ever from a TD standpoint. Simple point about how teams use talent. No need to get all upset.

  26. gcgrimes2014 says:
    Feb 26, 2017 9:22 AM
    sdchicken:

    Good comments except i take exception with you using Wes Welker as an example. Miami knew what they had in him and he had outstanding seasons in Miami. The problem was that they Patriots outbid Miami for his services.
    ********************
    You might have had a point had the Patriots not traded to Miami to get him…

  27. I am not happy with this trade. I hope his contract is appearanced based. We have a bunch of players that can’t stay on the field for long and when those guys are earning big money it’s frustrating. I would hope Gase really wanted this player and know what he’s about. Probably can’t blame Tanthebum on this one if it goes pear shaped. Let get some young hungry players with something to prove and not overpriced ” comfortable with my lot, thank you ” type players.

  28. SMH…More like “non existent” scouting. You would have to be a FOOL to ever think blocking was in his skill set to start with.

  29. davew128 says:
    Feb 26, 2017 2:39 PM
    gcgrimes2014 says:
    Feb 26, 2017 9:22 AM
    sdchicken:

    Good comments except i take exception with you using Wes Welker as an example. Miami knew what they had in him and he had outstanding seasons in Miami. The problem was that they Patriots outbid Miami for his services.
    ********************
    You might have had a point had the Patriots not traded to Miami to get him…
    ——————————————-
    Just to be clear, the Patriots planned to put a poison pill in their contract offer to Welker, which would have made it impossible for Miami to match (something along the lines of a huge escalator in pay if Welker were to play five games in the state of Florida in 2007). New England went the trade route to give Miami something and thereby avoid the hostility that would have been generated by using the poison pill option.

    On a side note, the poison pill option was done away with soon thereafter…

  30. diehardfootballfan says:
    Feb 26, 2017 7:08 AM
    He was on a bad team with bad coaching. He’ll do better in Miami, because if he doesn’t Gase will bench him no matter how much they’re paying him.
    ____________________

    Getting benched is what Thomas wants. Then he can get paid without having to risk concussions.

  31. Thomas quit on the team from basically the begining. Got paid and went on vacay. But I suspect the source for this story might have been Marcedes Lewis. No one expected Thomas to block. But its ironic that the Jags overpaid Marcedes a few years ago after his 1 pro bowl campaign, and then went out and did the same thing again. At least Marcedes knew how to block.

  32. gcgrimes2014 says:
    Feb 26, 2017 9:22 AM
    sdchicken:

    Good comments except i take exception with you using Wes Welker as an example. Miami knew what they had in him and he had outstanding seasons in Miami. The problem was that they Patriots outbid Miami for his services. That happens in the NFL.

    ———–

    Miami traded him to New England for a 2nd rounder. If they really knew what they had, they would have sent him out of the division, even if it meant taking less in trade. They gifted him to the Patriots.

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