John Fox admits he never scouted Jimmy Clausen before drafting him

AP

The Bears are going to be in the market for a quarterback this offseason. This time, coach John Fox will probably see the guy they end up going with.

While discussing their looming search for their next starting quarterback Wednesday, Fox admitted he may have been caught a little off-guard the last time one of his teams used a high pick on one.

Asked about the Panthers drafting Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen in the second round in 2010 (45th overall), Fox admitted he was a little surprised.

“There’s a lot that goes into it,” Fox said. “You have to do a lot of research. That situation was a little bit unique, because I think people projected him maybe even into the top 10. On draft day, that’s not how it materialized. I can’t give you all the exacts. He was dropping.

“Personally, I never even watched him, because he wasn’t a targeted guy for me in our pre-draft assignments. But I can say now I would hope we draft someone that I’ve actually gotten a chance to watch.”

Yeah, that might help.

Of course, Fox might not have been doing his most in-depth research that spring, since contract extension talks with the Panthers had broken down the year before and he knew 2010 would be his last season in Charlotte before the offseason even started.

The Panthers were in their post-Jake Delhomme lull, and had Matt Moore penciled in as their starter before the draft. But when Clausen fell into their laps, then-General Manager Marty Hurney took a chance on a guy who some might have considered an undervalued commodity. It’s not like they didn’t have a need there.

Of course, Clausen did turn into a franchise quarterback for the Panthers, at least indirectly. He and Moore (with a cameo by the legendary Brian St. Pierre) combined to go 2-14 and put them in position to draft Cam Newton first overall in 2011.

Fox was in Denver by then, so he didn’t care. This time, he has a bit more of a vested interest in the future of the pick.

27 responses to “John Fox admits he never scouted Jimmy Clausen before drafting him

  1. I remember watching that draft and seeing Clausen fall and fall and fall, and all i could think the whole time was “man, someone please take him before the Panthers get to their pick so they don’t even have the choice to do something stupid”

    I think that was the year that we didn’t have a 1st round pick because we (they, whatever) traded it the year before to San Fran for their 2nd round pick so they could draft Everette Brown. I guess that’s another player they never scouted before drafting?

    Man am i ever glad the Marty Hurney era ended.

  2. Perhaps the Bears should call the coaches they’ll be interviewing for their HC job in 2018 and ask them what they think of various prospects?

  3. That’s not even half as bad as scouting somebody like Jamarcus Russell and still drafting him.

    Not caring about a player who ends up bad, sure no problem

    Doing your homework to make the worst possible choice, solid gold stupidity

  4. I can just hear Belichick saying something like that. “Yeah, we drafted this guy in the second round I’ve never seen….I hope it works out.”

  5. Interesting given the dynamic at work with the Panthers in 2010. Every draft analysis I read on Clausen at the time was he was full of himself and was not a guy who would take coaching. The Panthers didn’t do their homework on that one.

  6. Not sure which is worse. Not scouting a player you spend a second round pick on or admitting that you did so. Fine line between honesty and ignorance.

  7. canedaddy says:
    Mar 1, 2017 6:12 PM

    I feel sorry for Bears fans.
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    How about us Panthers fans? This was a story I really rather would preferred not to hear. That was a very bad year. Foxey couldn’t even get off his rear to scout a player? That was his job. Geez.

  8. This doesn’t surprise me coming from Fox. Didn’t want the Bears to pick him at the HC. Does surprise me that he was dumb enough to admit to doing it. Waiting for the day when he is released from the Bears….

  9. I never saw any flash in Clausen’s game so where do these so called draft experts get him going in the first round? The same draft experts that left Brady to go the 6th round and let Aaron Rodgers slip to #24 including our genius friends over at the Vikings who had not one but two chances to grab him.

  10. Not to rub it in, but this is exhibit A as to why the patriots keep rolling. Belichick has made plenty of mistakes (Ras-I Dowling in round one anyone?) but he drafts who he likes and has a use for, oftentimes a couple of rounds ahead of where players are projected, just so he makes sure to get those guys. The pats lose the draft every year, yet every year they end up with a starter or two and a couple of solid contributors. Is Fox an outlier, or is this more common than we think?

  11. Yep, kinda/sorta/well always this behavior when he was in Denver. Happy Day when the ‘mutual decision’ one way ticket out of town occurred. SMDH.

  12. I think it’s silly to compare a head coach to Belichick, who is both a head coach and the GM…Fox said he was given other scouting responsibilities (presumably by Hurney) not including Clausen because the Panthers didn’t foresee Clausen going into free fall in the draft. They weren’t planning on taking him in round one, and never dreamed he’d be available to them in round two. One or more Panther scouts looked at him, just not Fox. If blame there be, blame the Panthers GM for taking a guy who not everyone in the organization had looked at.

  13. Bears fan here. After two years I’ve figured out the plan with him. He was never being brought in to Chicago to turn the team around. A 3-game regression from his 1st season to the 2nd showed he doesn’t have that kind of juice. John Fox is strictly the bridge guy, someone who is there to stop the bleeding from the Trestman debacle, make players feel better about themselves again and provide some veteran stability while the horrific roster he inherited undergoes a 3- or 4-year total rebuild.

    After the Bears go 5-11 or 6-10 this year, Fox will be let go and that’s when Pace will seek out a guy with the focus, energy and creativity to get the most out of a roster which by then, hopefully, will be quite a bit younger, more durable and a whole lot more skilled. That’s when the winning will start happening on a consistent basis.

  14. Did anyone other than Mel Kiper ever believe Clausen was ever going to amount to anything?

    Kiper promoted Clausen as a can’t-miss from the get-go, as if Mel had a cut in Clausen’s future earnings. Mel still gets razzed about it.

  15. As a Bears fan, I wish that this surprised me. But, after two years, it really doesn’t. He’s been terrible.

    And if you paid any attention to Clausen at ND, you knew he’d be terrible. He couldn’t make quick decisions, and every time he felt pressure, he’d panic and/or run backwards. I’ve never seen another QB turn as many 5 yard losses into 15 yard losses. Turns out pro football is a lot faster than college. He had bust written all over him.

  16. midnightcusk says:
    Mar 1, 2017 8:29 PM
    Not to rub it in, but this is exhibit A as to why the patriots keep rolling. Belichick has made plenty of mistakes (Ras-I Dowling in round one anyone?) but he drafts who he likes and has a use for, oftentimes a couple of rounds ahead of where players are projected, just so he makes sure to get those guys. The pats lose the draft every year, yet every year they end up with a starter or two and a couple of solid contributors. Is Fox an outlier, or is this more common than we think?

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    Its funny. Year in and year out there are lots of ‘experts’ saying how Belichick messed up on this or that. And yet the beat goes on and on up there. Its a good thing his job is winning games and not appeasing experts or he would have been fired long ago.

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    gstewart400 says:
    Mar 1, 2017 7:42 PM
    I can just hear Belichick saying something like that. “Yeah, we drafted this guy in the second round I’ve never seen….I hope it works out.”

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    Im not sure there is ever a single player in the draft he hasnt gotten the skinny on. Even guys he doesnt want he will have scouted to be sure he doesnt want them. He treats it like the draft wasnt something he could totally predict and that he might wind up having to make an unexpected decision.

  17. halfcentaur says:
    Mar 1, 2017 6:16 PM

    I remember watching that draft and seeing Clausen fall and fall and fall, and all i could think the whole time was “man, someone please take him before the Panthers get to their pick so they don’t even have the choice to do something stupid”

    I think that was the year that we didn’t have a 1st round pick because we (they, whatever) traded it the year before to San Fran for their 2nd round pick so they could draft Everette Brown. I guess that’s another player they never scouted before drafting?

    Man am i ever glad the Marty Hurney era ended.
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    It’s even worse than that. 21010 was also the year we traded up to get Armanti Edwards.

    Let all of us Panthers fans archive a copy of this post and throw it back to anyone who wants Gettleman fired.

    As for Fox, not surprising. He doesn’t scout anybody on offense. He thinks it’s 1965 and Vince “there are 3 things that can happen throw a pass, and 2 of them are bad” Lombardi ball is still the law of the land. He wants his offense off the field as quickly as possible so his defense can get back on the field.

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