Eli, Ben, Rivers all poised to join the 50,000-yard club

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Only six players in NFL history have passed for 50,000 yards. By the end of the 2017 season, there are likely to be nine members of the 50,000-yard club. And all three new additions come from the same first round in the draft.

Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers are all within one solid season of 50,000 yards and should become the seventh, eighth and ninth players to reach the 50,000-yard mark in 2017. The six players already ovder the 50,000-yard mark are Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Dan Marino and John Elway.

Manning currently has 48,218 yards, which means he’s likely around six games away from 50,000. Roethlisberger is at 46,814, meaning he’s probably about 11 games away. And Rivers is at 45,833, which at his 2016 pace would take him 16 games to reach 50,000.

The three quarterbacks have always been linked by the 2004 NFL draft, in which Manning was selected first overall by the Chargers, then traded for Rivers, who was drafted fourth overall by the Giants. Roethlisberger was taken 11th overall by the Steelers.

For three quarterbacks in the same draft class to all play for only one team and all play so well that they reach 50,000 career yards is an extremely unusual occurrence, as the draft is usually a crap shoot. Just ask the Bills, who also spent a first-round pick on a quarterback that year but got only 6,211 yards out of J.P. Losman.

42 responses to “Eli, Ben, Rivers all poised to join the 50,000-yard club

  1. Y’all are going to start with the Eli jokes but he’s the only one whith two – count ’em TWO – SB MVP trophies in his closet (or as a door stop).

    Eli is the only one of the bunch that would have worked out in NYC.

    Ben would have been drummed out of town years ago and Rivers would have been treated like we treated (the as religious) Daniel Murphy.

  2. All 3 are certainly good QBs.
    However, just wait until Patrick Mahomes becomes the 1st 80,000 yard QB

  3. Interesting in that of all the 50,000-yard club QBs mentioned, Philip Rivers is the only one to have never sniffed a Super Bowl appearance. Ironically, two of the otherss in the group (Eli Manning, Drew Brees) were originally drafted by the Chargers but won Super Bowls with other teams.

    It’s also interesting that all of these QBs came into the league after the 1978 rules changes which inflated passing statistics at the expense of limiting team defenses. So in my estimation it certainly doesn’t make this group any better than QBs like Graham, Unitas, Staubach, Luckman, etc. who played when defenses really had teeth.

  4. The only other draft with three QBs over 30,000 career yards was 1983 (Marino, Elway, Kelly)

  5. If Brady plays three more years at 4k passing yards per, he’ll be number one on the list. If he can actually play five more years with the same production, he will be the first to break 80,000.

    /not a Brady, or Patriots fan but can recognize achievements

  6. I don’t really care much about career stats. Just because you played a long time and compiled some stats doesn’t automatically make you Hall of Fame material.

    Brett Favre, the interception king and playoff game choker, immediately comes to mind. So does Jerome Bettis with his 3.95 yards per carry average.

  7. Eli Manning deserves to be in the Hall of Fame simply based on the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. Most likely you’ll never have a bigger upset based on win differential than the 10-6 Giants beating the 16-0 Patriots.

  8. kd75 wrote:
    “Jul 15, 2017 1:08 PM

    Ben would have been drummed out of town years ago.”

    Wrong. Other way around. Ben would have been far, far better than Eli. Not even close.

  9. kd75 says:
    Jul 15, 2017 1:08 PM
    Y’all are going to start with the Eli jokes but he’s the only one whith two – count ’em TWO – SB MVP trophies in his closet (or as a door stop).

    Last I looked, Roethlisberger has rings from both SB 40 and SB 43 and he got his team to SB 45.

    As for Roethlisberger and Rivers working out in NYC, your speculation is just an opinion.

  10. Also, all three are in the 10 member 300 passing TD club.

    7. Eli – 320
    8. Philip – 314
    9. Ben – 301

    That’s a pretty impressive feat too.

  11. araidersfan says on Jul 15, 2017 1:28 PM:

    “It’s also interesting that all of these QBs came into the league after the 1978 rules changes which inflated passing statistics at the expense of limiting team defenses. So in my estimation it certainly doesn’t make this group any better than QBs like Graham, Unitas, Staubach, Luckman, etc. who played when defenses really had teeth.”

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    Nobody, at least not in this article, said they are better than QBs of the older generations. You can only compare quarterbacks (or any position) to their contemporaries. Each quarterback plays under the same rule with 31 other contemporary quarterbacks and each achieve something superior over others. If one (or few) just jumps out of the stat sheet then we must recognize their achievement.

    The best metric is stats AND wins. Winning is a team stats but if two QBs have similar stats then winning is the tiebreaker. In this case, Rivers is being edged out. When they finish their careers, we will have more objective evaluation of their achievement.

  12. ben the rapist is a total joke, padded stats for him except in the super bowl, 3 games 3 td passes and 5 int’s with one pick 6

  13. Ben Fatburger will be if not there already the first among the them to join the 300 lbs club.

  14. lingsun54 says:
    Jul 15, 2017 1:53 PM
    I don’t really care much about career stats. Just because you played a long time and compiled some stats doesn’t automatically make you Hall of Fame material.

    Brett Favre, the interception king and playoff game choker, immediately comes to mind. So does Jerome Bettis with his 3.95 yards per carry average.
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    You just said you don’t care about career stats, and then you list career stats to try and prove why two players aren’t worthy of the HOF.

    By the way, Favre won league MVP three times and Bettis was one of the best short-yardage backs ever. But I guess it’s easy to just look at stats and say they were no good…

  15. bkostela says:
    Jul 15, 2017 1:31 PM
    The only other draft with three QBs over 30,000 career yards was 1983 (Marino, Elway, Kelly)

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    Kelly passed for 35,467 yards in the NFL and his first NFL season was 1986. He was drafted by the Buffalo Bills in the 1983 Draft, but declined to play for them at first and played 2 years in the USFL where he threw for 9,842 yards.

    Another pretty good QB who would have been part of the 1983 NFL Draft Class, if he had not already decided to play in the USFL is Bobby Hebert. Hebert went straight to the USFL in 1983 and did not get drafted in the 1983 NFL Draft. Hebert is the all time USFL passing leader with 13,137 yards. (Hebert was the QB for the Michigan Panthers in 1983 and was the QB for them in the first USFL Championship Game, throwing for 319 yards and 3 TD’s and was game MVP.) In addition, he passed for 21,683 yards in the NFL. His combined professional passing yards total is 34,820 yards.

    Hebert should at least be a footnote whenever the 1983 QB Draft Class is mentioned.

  16. Two of those players (Elway and Marino) played in eras in which the rules favored offense a lot less. I know most posters here think the NFL started in 2000 or after, but the ones I give credit to came from when there was more hitting, and more evenness between DBs and receivers.

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    lingsun54 says:
    Jul 15, 2017 1:59 PM
    Eli Manning deserves to be in the Hall of Fame simply based on the biggest upset in Super Bowl history. Most likely you’ll never have a bigger upset based on win differential than the 10-6 Giants beating the 16-0 Patriots.
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    The biggest upset in SB history was the 2001 Patriots upsetting the Rams as 14 point underdogs.

  18. And don’t forget Warren Moon. If he had been drafted into the NFL immediately instead of having to go to the CFL, he’d be near the top. Moon’s combined stats are 70,553 yrds of which 21,228 are from the CFL. He currently is 7th on the all-time list but all three of the QBs in the article should pass him this year.

  19. All three are great QB’s and fun to watch. Why does one have to be better than the other? It’s a team sport.

  20. QB stats are so inflated today because of the rules changes. They have such a big advantage compared to QB’s from the past.
    It’s why I really don’t give this achievement much thought. To me, it’s no big deal.

  21. darkbaconlips says:
    Jul 15, 2017 3:50 PM
    Stat padders. None belong in the HOF.
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    Manning and Roethlisberger each have 2 rings already and may add to the total before they are done. Both are sure fire first ballot Hall of Famers. Rivers may not make it on the first ballot but stands a pretty good chance of getting in as well. In the Super Bowl era the ’04 class of QB’s is second only to the ’83 class in terms of overall accomplishment. While they have played in a softer era their durability is nothing to sneeze at either. Since taking over as starters neither Manning or Rivers has missed a start and for all that Roethlisberger gets knocked for it he has only missed 21 of 205. That’s an astounding 559 of 580 potential regular season starts for the 3 of them since they took over as starters.

  22. richiethegreek says:
    Jul 15, 2017 4:56 PM

    The biggest upset in SB history was the 2001 Patriots upsetting the Rams as 14 point underdogs.
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    I guess the 18 point underdog Jets beating the Colts in Super Bowl III doesn’t count?

  23. There are likely about 25 other teams in the league that would have taken any of those 3 happily at any point during their careers. Being a Steelers fan I have a Ben bias but these 3 are incredible QBs.

  24. historical in 2 ways. that truly was a great draft for qb’s in any era, but it also represents the change in rules. if there are any nfl historians 100 years from now this will be an important era for them to study

  25. Jul 15, 2017 1:19 PM
    All 3 are certainly good QBs.
    However, just wait until Patrick Mahomes becomes the 1st 80,000 yard QB

    I hope so but…

  26. Eli and Rivers also have the longest “iron man” streaks in the NFL which is more impressive than anything. Eli at 211 including the playoffs is incredible.

  27. rickeyp says:
    Jul 15, 2017 2:22 PM
    kd75 says:
    Jul 15, 2017 1:08 PM
    Y’all are going to start with the Eli jokes but he’s the only one whith two – count ’em TWO – SB MVP trophies in his closet (or as a door stop).
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    Last I looked, Roethlisberger has rings from both SB 40 and SB 43 and he got his team to SB 45.

    As for Roethlisberger and Rivers working out in NYC, your speculation is just an opinion.
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    Last I looked, Big Ben was NOT the MVP for either of the Steelers SBs that he played in. That honor belongs to Hines Ward and Antonio Holmes. If you had taken the time to read the post that you had apparently mocked, you would have seen that he said Eli is the only one with 2 MVP trophies. As a matter of fact, he is the only one with any out of that bunch!

  28. Quite possibly the best qb class ever. Ben should have been mvp vs Arizona in the SB. If he was a manning he would have been mvp. He is the best qb in this group.

  29. If you look at quarterbacks through the prism of a relative passer efficiency rating, where each of their seasons are compared to the average passer rating of the whole league, you find that Roger Staubach was the most efficient QB in NFL history.

    Staubach’s career “RPR” is 132.9% of a yearly average of 100. That’s over 8 “qualified” seasons, in which he also had a 2-2 record in Super Bowls, and an 82-28 regular season record over those 8 years.

    A good comparison, from today’s air assault era, Aaron Rodgers’ yearly efficiency average is 122.4% over the NFL average during his 9 qualified seasons (best among active QB’s).

    It’s the only way I’ve found to statistically compare QB’s from different eras, because it pits each QB season against the league and rules they had to play against each year.

    By the way; Joe Namath, in 9 qualified seasons, ended his career with an RPR of 89.2, which sucks when the league average is exactly 100.0 every year. But Broadway Joe got into the HOF for things other than his efficiency.

    The lowest career RPR I found among QB’s with widely known names was Ryan Leaf’s, which was 61.4. But my research is not completely exhaustive.

    Six other QB’s have career RPR averages better than Rodgers, in order they are: Steve Young, Len Dawson, Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and Milt Plum.

  30. reddzen says:
    Jul 15, 2017 4:23 PM
    Two of those players (Elway and Marino) played in eras in which the rules favored offense a lot less. I know most posters here think the NFL started in 2000 or after, but the ones I give credit to came from when there was more hitting, and more evenness between DBs and receivers.
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    I watched those guys all their careers and can still say they were somewhat chokers. The main difference between the two is that Elway took part in two massive multi-million dollar frauds (just one was $29M when the cap was $57M) in order to buy/keep enough talent to steal two SBs. Shula was a mega-cheat too. Total frauds.

  31. Just for the record Ben would have been bounced out of New York but not for his play. If you think John we only draft boy scouts Mara wouldn’t have cut or traded Big Ben the second rape allegations came out you know nothing of Giants ownership. And yes I know about Josh Brown but he got the boot the second it went public.

  32. Iknowitall says:
    Jul 15, 2017 1:19 PM
    All 3 are certainly good QBs.
    However, just wait until Patrick Mahomes becomes the 1st 80,000 yard QB
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    Anytime I’m sad or depressed in the future, I will look or think about this post and die laughing, bahahaha

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