At age 40, Tom Brady may do what only Warren Moon has done before

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On August 3 Tom Brady will turn 40, an age at which NFL quarterbacks have rarely been able to keep playing. But if Brady plays in 2017 at anywhere close to the same level he played in 2016, he’ll be the best 40-year-old quarterback the league has ever seen.

So far, the list of quarterbacks who have entered a season at age 40 or older and played well that year consists of just one name: Warren Moon, who entered the 1997 season at age 40 (and turned 41 during the season), and that year he led the NFL with 245.2 passing yards per game and was chosen to the Pro Bowl.

Other than Moon, the list of quarterbacks entering a season at age 40 and older is a list of players who were past their primes. Brett Favre entered the 2009 season at age 39 and played well after his 40th birthday, but by 2010, the season he entered at age 40, he had fallen off a cliff. Doug Flutie and Vinny Testaverde were still in the league after turning 40, but they didn’t play particularly well. Hall of Famers Len Dawson and Sonny Jurgensen played at age 40, but they were backups.

If Brady can do anything close to what he did last year, when he threw 28 touchdown passes and two interceptions, it will be by far the best season of any quarterback who entered a season age 40 or older. And even if Brady takes a significant step backward, he’d almost certainly be the second-best 40-year-old quarterback behind Moon.

Brady is going to get old eventually, because everyone does. But he’s poised to be the best old quarterback ever.

93 responses to “At age 40, Tom Brady may do what only Warren Moon has done before

  1. Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.

  2. Bills fan here. God I hate playing against Brady. Hate him even more. But man do i ever respect the hell out of his playing ability. Probably the greatest of all time.

    He’ll probably be the best 42 year old to ever play. And that makes me sad.

  3. 39yr old Peyton Manning 2015 = 67.9 rating (17 INTs)
    39yr old Tom Brady 2016 = 112.2 rating (2 INTs)

  4. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon could take a hit… Brady doesn’t… and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.
    ———————————–
    Brady career YPA = 7.5 (for comparison, Matt Ryan is 7.4).
    Warren Moon YPA = 7.2
    And Brady takes hits, and all QBs complain.

  5. .
    he keeps setting records.
    Biggest whiner at 39
    Biggest whiner at 38
    Biggest whiner at 37
    Biggest whiner at 36
    Biggest whiner at 35 etc etc

    Soon to be biggest whiner at 40.
    He needs to just walk into the sunset with his Murse tight at his side.

  6. After football, Tammy Hair Plugs and UGGs will avoid any tv job due to the fact his hair plugs will be completely exposed for all to see. This guy is the definition of Brazilian HGH

  7. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t.
    ___________
    The number one way to tell someone knows absolutely nothing about football. If you can complete a five yard pass, complete a five yard pass. Then do that over and over again until you win the game. Notice how these are also the people who complain about showboating, and the modern rules benefiting the offense.

  8. Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white. The discrimination he suffered from lives on today, through Kaepernick and RGIII.

  9. As long as Tom gets the protection, I don’t see why he can’t go on for several more seasons. I do wonder how much longer the O-Line Whisperer, Dante Scarnnechia will go on. He has as much to do with Brady’s success as Belichick.

    Dante retired several years ago (and yes they won Superbowl 49 without him) but the following year, the o-line was a mess and Brady took a lot of hits. It was much improved this last season when Dante unretired-but he is pushing 70. I hope he is grooming a replacement.

  10. I’m just hoping that the obnoxious, ungracious Pats fans remember exactly how they acted during the Brady/Belichick era because like all good things it will eventually come to an end. When that happens and they’re forced to come back down to earth I hope they’ll all understand when they get treated mercilessly by the rest of us. I personally love the actual team as they seem like good guys who do and say the right things, never get in trouble etc…It’s the fan base that has no idea how to win with class that makes me root against them.

  11. No QB has ever taken of himself physically like Brady has. Even so, for his sake I hope he retires soon. The physical toll his body is taking is the same regardless of what shape he is in. CTE makes no distinction for physical fitness. Brady should retire after the 2018 season at the latest. How many more rings does he need? His place in Canton is secure. His legacy as the greatest player, not just the greatest QB, is secure.

    Could he still play at an extremely high level beyond the 2018 season? In all likelihood. Is it worth possibly jeopardizing his future especially considering the fact that he has a wife and young children? That’s an easy answer for me.

    Robert Kraft will take care of Brady after he retires. Whether as a coach or another position in the organization, Brady will never want for income. He has already made a fortune and his wife has made millions as well. Money cannot buy your health and well-being. Two more seasons. Then his family should take priority over his continued playing career.

  12. Testament to how good a QB Warren Moon really was. And to the genius who said he didn’t throw 5 yard passes, you never watched the run-and-shoot he ran in Houston. Short passes into open space was a staple of that offense. That Tom Brady may play as well as he did at that age says a lot about Mr Brady.

    – Raiders fan

  13. There was also George Blanda. By the time he came to the Raiders he was more of a PK than QB, but he had some QB heroics during the 1970 season and at the end of that season was the oldest QB (at 43) to play in a conference championship game.

  14. “Vinny Testaverde [was] still in the league after turning 40, but…didn’t play particularly well.”

    Vinny, born in ’63, threw for 3.5k yards in 2004 for a terrible Dallas team (they were 6-10 that year). He did throw 20 picks that year, but still…that’s not bad.

  15. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t.
    _____________

    We really do enjoy your misery no matter which of your id’s you use to display it but if you want to fool anyone you need to do a better job with your fabrications. Among others Strahan, Tuck, Wake, Harrison and Marshall are all on record marveling at Brady’s toughness, forgive us for going with their assessments over yours. Only a moron wouldn’t acknowledge Moon was a great QB but despite having played in an era when the passing game was largely vertical his career A/YA is significantly lower than Brady’s and so is Montana’s. Now that you have read this start furiously refreshing and down voting. Oh and have yourself a real nice day.

  16. I have been watching football for some time and the falloff can be really quick for a QB as they get closer to 40. Teams are already daring TB to beat them with down the field throws and I expect to see more of the same this season, all the talk of him playing at a high level well into his 40’s is just that, talk. The end is near, trust me.

  17. Tom Brady is the Greatest 20 something QB of all time.

    Tom Brady is the Greatest 30 something QB of all time.

    Time Brady is the Greatest NFL player of all time.

    It will not be a surprise to see Tom Brady as the Greatest 40 something QB of all time.

  18. he’s poised to be the best old quarterback ever.
    ——————————–
    He was the best young QB, the best mid-career QB, and is already the best older QB.

    No one has ever done at any age what Brady did in BOTH SB 49 and SB 51.

    For the rest of our lives he will be referred to as the GOAT standard whenever any of us watch a football game. I am going to enjoy that immensely; never again will I have to hear any serious talk about the many pretenders who don’t have the playoff wins and clutch performance to back them up. These proceedings have adjourned.

  19. The fool that said Warren Moon never threw 5 yard passes obviously never watched old game footage of him because in Houston that was precisely what he did. That and Tom Brady has a higher yards per attempt than Moon. Warren Moon has already said that if anyone else could play well past 40 it’d be Tom Brady. I trust his judgment over some fools throwing a temper tantrum.

  20. redzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.
    ——————————————-

    5× Super Bowl champion (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI)
    4× Super Bowl MVP (XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, LI)
    12× Pro Bowl (2001, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009–2016)
    2× First-team All-Pro (2007, 2010)
    2× Second-team All-Pro (2005, 2016)
    2× NFL Most Valuable Player (2007, 2010)
    2× NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2007, 2010)
    NFL Comeback Player of the Year (2009)
    Bert Bell Award (2007)
    Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year (2007)
    Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year (2005)
    2× NFL passing yards leader (2005, 2007)
    4× NFL passing touchdowns leader (2002, 2007, 2010, 2015)
    NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
    National champion (1997)

    Playoffs (career)
    Most games played: 34[190][191]
    Most games started by a quarterback: 34
    Most games won by a starting quarterback: 25
    Most consecutive wins, playoffs, by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003–2005)
    Most consecutive wins to start a career, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003–2005)
    Most career home wins, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 15 (2001–2016)
    Most consecutive home wins, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 8 (2001–2007), tied with Jim Kelly
    Most touchdown passes: 63
    Most passing yards: 9,094
    Most passes completed: 831
    Most passes attempted: 1,325
    Most division titles won by a starting quarterback: 14
    Most NFL conference championship appearances by a starting quarterback: 11
    Most NFL conference championship wins by a starting quarterback: 7
    Most career 300+ passing yard games, post-season: 12
    Super Bowl (career)
    Most touchdown passes: 15[192]
    Most passing yards: 2,071
    Most passes completed: 207
    Most passes attempted: 309
    Most wins as starting QB: 5
    Most passes completed in first half of a single Super Bowl: 20 (XLIX)
    Most passes completed in a single Super Bowl: 43 (LI)
    Most passes attempted in a single Super Bowl: 62 (LI)
    Most passing yards in a single Super Bowl: 466 (LI)
    Most Super Bowl appearances: 7[193]

    Indeed, no comparison at all

    SMH

  21. rrhoe says:
    Jul 22, 2017 2:18 PM
    I have been watching football for some time and the falloff can be really quick for a QB as they get closer to 40. Teams are already daring TB to beat them with down the field throws and I expect to see more of the same this season, all the talk of him playing at a high level well into his 40’s is just that, talk. The end is near, trust me.
    ———————————-

    I’ve been watching for a long time too. As a Phins fan it wouldn’t hurt my feelings to have you be right. . Before I get excited about that maybe you could explain why

  22. briang123 says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:20 PM
    Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white. The discrimination he suffered from lives on today, through Kaepernick and RGIII.

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    Oh sure, bring up Kapernick and RG III and race.

    In the first place, you can’t say Moon would have any Super Bowl wins had he played in the NFL from the start of his career. Having 5 Grey Cup wins means nothing because the Canadian Football League is one step above Arena Football. Moon was never able to win a Super Bowl in the NFL after playing there for 17 years.
    Jim Kelly also had to play in the CFL before he got a chance to play QB in the NFL, and the last time I checked, Kelly is white.
    Joe Theismann, Jeff Garcia, and Doug Flutie also started in the CFL, and all 3 of them had better than average NFL careers. So it’s not just black QB’s who had to start in Canada.
    Even after he was signed by the Redskins, Theismann had to play special teams before he got a shot to play QB in the NFL.
    And Reggie White went to the USFL before he played in the NFL, so the greatest DE to ever play in the NFL started somewhere else, too.
    As for RGIII and Kaepernick, I have never seen any QB’s come into the NFL with more hype after their initial careers as starters as RGIII or Colin Kaepernick. Who will ever forget Ron “Jaws” Jaworksi anointing Kaepernick “the greatest QB ever” on ESPN after he took the Niners to the Super Bowl???? Jaworski will never live that one down.
    The facts are RGIII was never the same after his knee injuries because everything he did was predicated on the way he could move and run. And he rubbed his teammates the wrong way because he seemed to care more about promoting himself than he did learning to play QB. Everyone criticized Mike Shanahan for the way he treated RGIII when he took over as coach of the Redskins, but it turns out Shanahan wasn’t wrong.
    And Kaepernick’s career took off because of his running ability, not his passing or reading defenses abilities. And it’s obvious his dedication to learning the position became secondary to his agenda of becoming some kind of martyr. Just look at pictures of him his first two years and look at him now. He looks like he has spent about a year on a hunger strike. It’s obvious he isn’t serious about playing in the NFL.
    In short — if RGIII or Kaepernick had devoted all their efforts into becoming the best QB’s they could be, they’d still be starting in the NFL.
    I look around the league right now and I see Cam Newton and Jameis Winston starting in the NFL. Newton has shown times where he can be as good as anyone, but has yet to show he can do it consistently. Winston has a chance to be as good as anyone but he’s still learning the position.
    I also see Russell Winston, Dak Prescott, and Tyrod Taylor starting in the NFL. Wilson has had an excellent career so far and has won a Super Bowl. Taylor has shown some good things, but the jury is still out on him.
    Then there’s Prescott. Prescott had as good of a rookie season at QB as anyone has ever had. The kid came out of nowhere and ended Tony Romo’s career in the NFL.
    All of those guys are black and all of them are starters because they have earned it. No one cares what color they are.
    Race might have had something to do with Warren Moon not getting a chance to play in the NFL right away, but it has nothing to do with why RGIII or Colin Kaepernick aren’t starters now.

  23. Only people who don’t actually know or watch football claim Brady doesn’t throw down field. Check the stats, particularly passes over 20 yards. SMH. Then, you may as well check the rest of the stats before you come back here and make even bigger fools of yourselves.

  24. George Blanda was both a place kicker and QB. He played QB until he was 43, including some playoff victories (albeit because Lamonica was injured), and place kicker for five years after that.

    He gave up two interceptions in the 4th quarter of his last playoff game — costing Oakland any chance of winning — but was effective up until that point.

    He should have at least been mentioned.

  25. Just when I thought the trolls couldn’t reach a new level of stupidity, this thread appears and they set the bar even lower.

  26. Brady plays within a system so great that high school QB can start in it and have success. Even when Brady played with concussions, the team never skipped a bit. That’s just how great the system is. So the odds are Brady will have a better season as a 40 year old than Warren Moon did.

  27. Patriots/Brady fans are so insecure. How can anybody still be goaded into arguments or feel the need to cut and paste stats at this point?

  28. The ONLY way to defend against the New England Cheaters is to pound that sniveling liar, Tomasina Brady, into the ground and to end his chance of playing until 40.

    You cannot cover any of the cheating receivers long enough to make Brady ineffective – you have to lay the wood to him at the start of the game and by the second quarter he is a whining Nellie who cannot handle the pressure.

  29. Looks like laserw skipped 7th grade science class & didn’t keep up with the 56 lies in the Wells report.
    Science proves there was no tampering. The only one that lied was Goodell, starting with 11/12 footballs 2 pounds under! So how do you explain the Colts balls being under regulation? Your post is so embarrassing!

  30. @reddzen
    I think you’re mistaken…anyway…

    Joe Montana threw 10 yd passes each for a first down. 7 or 8 throws later, guess what touchdown.
    It’s called vision down the field and fast release. Also controlled the game clock.
    Do that enough times and the end result is a win.
    How many times did he do that? Enough to win 4 Super Bowls.
    I’ll take that anytime over a sling thrower who misses. A win is a win, doesn’t matter how you do it!

  31. The only reason Shady wants to play until he is 70 is that he is petrified of retirement and having to be alone, full time, with his wife who calls all the shots, wears the pants and emasculates him. The football field gives TB12 (trademark) freedom.

  32. Whether you love him or hate him, you have to respect what Tom Brady has accomplished as a professional. If you are jealous of him then forget it.

  33. Jim Kelly never played in the CFL, he played with the Houston Gamblers of the USFL before reaching the NFL.

  34. I was goofing around recently and came up with some interesting stats:

    Brady’s career winning percentage is .773. There are 13 other quarterbacks who have higher winning percentages (all 1.00); none of those 13 started more than 3 games.

    The next highest current winning percentage is Dak Prescott (13-4) or .765. The next highest winning percentage by a quarterback with 100 or more starts is Joe Montana (.711), followed by Peyton Manning (.685), Jim McMahon (.680) and Ben Roethlisberger (.670). Aaron Rodgers is at .656, John Elway at .645, and Brett Favre at .618.

    Manning played well until he was hurt, and then hurt again while at Denver. He never recovered his arm strength after that second injury, which is why he started tanking.

    Brady’s healthy. He’s pretty much injury free right now.

    I think he’ll have a good year.

  35. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.

    ———–

    How do those sour grapes taste going down.

  36. laserw says:
    Jul 22, 2017 3:40 PM
    The ONLY way to defend against the New England Cheaters is to pound that sniveling liar, Tomasina Brady, into the ground and to end his chance of playing until 40.

    You cannot cover any of the cheating receivers long enough to make Brady ineffective – you have to lay the wood to him at the start of the game and by the second quarter he is a whining Nellie who cannot handle the pressure.

    ———————————————————
    Apparently you did not see the AFC Championship game in Denver two years ago. I have never seen a QB take the kind of hits Brady did. And he probably would’ve won the game if not for a missed extra point. You saw what Denver did to the league MVP in the Super Bowl a couple of weeks later.

  37. Brady career YPA = 7.5 (for comparison, Matt Ryan is 7.4).
    Warren Moon YPA = 7.2
    And Brady takes hits, and all QBs complain.
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    Moon played indoors.
    End of comparison.

  38. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jul 22, 2017 3:25 PM
    Brady plays within a system so great that high school QB can start in it and have success. Even when Brady played with concussions, the team never skipped a bit. That’s just how great the system is. So the odds are Brady will have a better season as a 40 year old than Warren Moon did.
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    Your admiration of Bill Belichick is to be commended. Please cite the team that draws plays up on the field. Hint: there are none. New England’s system is Brady.

  39. The anti-Brady, race-card playing idiotic comments have to be written by the same guy with multiple accounts. Either that or they are all some how of the same bloodline.

  40. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.

    ————————

    Von Miller just read your suggestion that Brady didnt take hits, he started muttering something about finding whoever thought those werent hits then just took off in his car. I dont know where.

  41. mrboado says:
    Jul 22, 2017 6:32 PM
    The anti-Brady, race-card playing idiotic comments have to be written by the same guy with multiple accounts. Either that or they are all some how of the same bloodline.

    I suspect both of his parents are of the same bloodline, too.

  42. Anicra says:
    Jul 22, 2017 6:46 PM
    One year his production will drop and I guessing it is very soon.

    ——————
    Of course it will be soon, hes 40. But it aint happened yet despite all the guys that predicted ‘this is the year’ for the past 5-6 years in a row and I see from how many jumped on ths article its driving a bunch of guys nuts.

  43. yoursoulcollector says:
    Jul 22, 2017 4:21 PM
    The only reason Shady wants to play until he is 70 is that he is petrified of retirement and having to be alone, full time, with his wife who calls all the shots, wears the pants and emasculates him. The football field gives TB12 (trademark) freedom.

    ———-

    Yeah…..soending some time alone with Gisele seems like real torture!!!

    If that is the best you got….give it up

  44. So i got curious and went on profootballcomparisons.com and compared moon to romo. Romo better in EVERY SINGLE meaningful category than warren moon . Just thought i’d throw that out there

  45. The Truth says:
    Jul 22, 2017 7:07 PM
    So i got curious and went on profootballcomparisons.com and compared moon to romo. Romo better in EVERY SINGLE meaningful category than warren moon . Just thought i’d throw that out there

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    Looks like a 4th rounder replicated Romo’s best season, complete with a divisional round collapse.
    Just thought I’d throw that out there.

  46. I’m no Patriots honk, nor a Brady stooge, but here’s what Brady did:

    Made the best team in football, by a wide margin into the second best team in football in a little over 20 minutes of game time. Turned them into a franchise that was celebrating to one looking for answers.

    Warren Moon, on the other hand had the best team in the AFC, but not only lost the largest lead in playoff history, had to come from behind just to tie it up to reach overtime.

    Warren Moon was a very good quarterback, but he wasn’t a difference maker at any point like Tom Brady is even now. That’s just the way it is.

  47. The Truth says:
    Jul 22, 2017 7:07 PM
    So i got curious and went on profootballcomparisons.com…
    ___________

    Congrats. You somehow came up with real numbers from a nonexistent website. Anyone who really wanted to compare them can take advantage of the comparison tool at profootballreference.com

  48. As a fan of a team that’s had two dynasties, when you’re riding the wave you think it will never end. But it always comes crashing down with no warning. Enjoy it while it lasts, because it’s not going to last. At least when the Patriots suck once again, the fans will still have smack talking rights towards teams like the Eagles.

  49. Tom Brady is obviously great, but I mean– a guy invented uber, a guy invented google. Like rewrote the history of earth. Tom Brady isn’t even like a secretary for those guys.

  50. Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white

    I watched those Oilers a lot back in the day, they were on national tv all the time. I was a Warren Moon fan. Threw the tightest spiral you’ll ever see.

    But the truth is, he couldn’t get it done, and they had some damn good teams for a few years.

    Brady would have won rings with that team.

  51. abninf says:
    Jul 22, 2017 9:02 PM
    As a fan of a team that’s had two dynasties,
    ___________

    Two wins 6 years apart is not a dynasty. The 70’s cowboys were great but only the 90’s team was a dynasty.

  52. bspurloc says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:18 PM
    .
    he keeps setting records.
    Biggest whiner at 39
    Biggest whiner at 38
    Biggest whiner at 37
    Biggest whiner at 36
    Biggest whiner at 35 etc etc

    Soon to be biggest whiner at 40.
    He needs to just walk into the sunset with his Murse tight at his side.
    ————————
    YOU MAD BRO?

  53. briang123 says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:20 PM
    Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white. The discrimination he suffered from lives on today, through Kaepernick and RGIII.

    —————————

    I’m black and was born in the Jim Crow south. ANYONE that doesn’t this country has come a long way is delusional. Things will NEVER be perfect because people (regardless of creed, sex, religion, etc, etc…) are NOT perfect. Michael Vick got another chance because he paid his debt and played well before incarceration. Therefore, he got another chance. And yes, discrimination kept Moon from playing QB for a number of years. But that is NOT the case with RG III and KC. If RG III and CK both played better, they’d be in the league. Do most folks HONESTLY think most fans would rather see a white QB who loses week after week vs a black QB who’s winning games for his team?

  54. Tyrone B. Free says:
    Jul 22, 2017 2:26 PM
    When it’s all said and done, Carr>Brady
    —————————-

    Maybe we can let Carr win a playoff game or two first before putting him in Canton

  55. It amazes me the amount of accomplishments Brady has achieved, and people are still trying to tear him down. Let me break it to you guys, you sound small, bitter, and petty. He’s the greatest EVER! He’s on the same level as Jordan. Period.

  56. Per Ray Didinger only 3 QBs at 40 years old threw for over 3500 yards during their respective seasons:
    1- Moon
    2-Favre
    3-Vinny T.

  57. Those Moon – led Oilers teams were awesome in Tecmo Super Bowl. Run ’em deep every play!

  58. Warren Moon threw the prettiest ball ever.

    And, my, how the comments here have brought out all those wanna-be Tom Brady girlfriends.

  59. Tom Brady single handedly has affected the employment rate in this country.Do you people realize how many coaches have lost their jobs because of him?If he would never had played football millions of people would still be employed in good paying jobs.
    Instead of having a job that pays good those same people now have minimum wage jobs creating warning signs and slogans for the Patriots haters.
    Caution contents hot
    Don’t play in traffic
    Don’t put plastic bag over your head
    Game pieces do not talk
    Hot do not touch
    Do not try this at home
    Flammable no open flame
    Dont touch wet paint
    Don’t run with scissors
    No swimming sharks
    Don’t eat non edible
    If it weren’t for Tom Brady alot of people would have high paying jobs, but if you think about it, look at how many lives have been saved because of Tom Brady.I beg of you ,Patriots haters,to heed these warning signs and slogans.THE LIFE YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR OWN….Tom Brady is not only the GOAT ,but also a life saver.

  60. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.
    ==================
    Moon > Brady

    rolleyes

  61. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon played in an era that wasn’t slanted towards offensive performance. He also could take a hit. Those are two qualities Mr. Brady doesn’t have. He is a whiner if he gets touched, and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.
    ===================
    You really don’t need to look any further than Haywood Jeffires to see the comparison by the way. If you need more help you can always look at JEdelman, WWelker or TBrown.

  62. staffordisbetterthanyourteamsqb says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:27 PM
    I’m just hoping that the obnoxious, ungracious Pats fans remember exactly how they acted during the Brady/Belichick era because like all good things it will eventually come to an end. When that happens and they’re forced to come back down to earth I hope they’ll all understand when they get treated mercilessly by the rest of us. I personally love the actual team as they seem like good guys who do and say the right things, never get in trouble etc…It’s the fan base that has no idea how to win with class that makes me root against them.
    ====================
    I always laugh at posts like these. SF and DAL fans were equally obnoxious during their dynastic eras. Regardless of what happens in the future the past will never change. So yeah the good ole days will sure to be there but the amount of supposed upcoming merciless treatment will always have a permanent salve to ease the pain.

  63. briang123 says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:20 PM
    Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white. The discrimination he suffered from lives on today, through Kaepernick and RGIII.
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    RWilson, DPrescott and TTaylor say Hi.

  64. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jul 22, 2017 3:25 PM
    Brady plays within a system so great that high school QB can start in it and have success. Even when Brady played with concussions, the team never skipped a bit. That’s just how great the system is. So the odds are Brady will have a better season as a 40 year old than Warren Moon did.
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    A system so great only 1 team uses it. Right?

  65. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    Jul 22, 2017 3:25 PM
    Brady plays within a system so great that high school QB can start in it and have success. Even when Brady played with concussions, the team never skipped a bit. That’s just how great the system is. So the odds are Brady will have a better season as a 40 year old than Warren Moon did.

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    Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats HC without Brady starting.

    And he always gets rid of good players who start to get expensive, yet he still kept Brady around.

    Proof Brady is not a “system” QB.

  66. reddzen says:
    Jul 22, 2017 12:57 PM
    Warren Moon could take a hit… Brady doesn’t… and he throws 5-yard passes Moon didn’t. No comparison.

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    Brady was 2nd in NFL in yards per attempt last year.

  67. Please tell us wise one.When we Patriots fans”fall back to earth” what exactly can you tell us?Your team,in no way,cannot meet the standards set by the Patriots.You yourself have unwittingly said that with your “fall back to earth” comment.You basically called us gods.If we are gods,why would we settle to be sewer dwellers and talk to you?You do not even have the memories we have so what will we have to talk about?Your dreams..laughable…dreams..get on your knees and pray that when we walk by you that we glance your way…mortal.

  68. Todo says:
    Jul 23, 2017 5:03 PM
    Ruth, Gretzky, Jordan, Brady. Ruth rules them all.

    No basebal player belongs in a “who is greatest” against players from athletic sports. Compare baseball players to golfers or cricket if you must.

  69. briang123 says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:20 PM
    Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white.-

    Disagree. They wouldn’t have played any better if they were white. Life will make sense once you let go of prejudice.

  70. rrhoe says:
    Jul 22, 2017 2:18 PM

    I have been watching football for some time and the falloff can be really quick for a QB as they get closer to 40. Teams are already daring TB to beat them with down the field throws…

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    In order to make him beat you down the field you have to cover his receivers over the middle. We saw how well Atlanta was able to keep that up in the second half of the Super Bowl. And now with Edelman in the slot, a healthy Gronk and Cooks streaking all over the field, it’s gonna be a long season for AFC secondaries.

  71. What kind of numbers would Moon have put up if he wasn’t stuck in the CFL for 6 years?!

    Would he and Marino have been racing together toward Tarkenton??!!

  72. SF and DAL fans were equally obnoxious during their dynastic eras.
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    Were people really bothered by the 9ers fans?.. buncha weirdos in the weirdness capitol of the US.

    Dallas fans, sure. Then! NOW? Who cares?!! They haven’t won anything meaningful since Al Gore invented the internet.

  73. As long as the league allows him to play with deflated balls and have the cameras rolling ready to steal signals at a moments notice Brady will be a good QB. Put him in Baltimores system back in 2001 and he would have been a 3rd stringer at best. Overrated. I’d take Manning Unitas Elway Montana Marino Rodgers Brees over him easy.

  74. nyneal says:
    Jul 22, 2017 2:54 PM
    briang123 says:
    Jul 22, 2017 1:20 PM
    Moon would have the best numbers ever, and 5 Super Bowls instead of 5 Grey Cups, if he were white. The discrimination he suffered from lives on today, through Kaepernick and RGIII.

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    Oh sure, bring up Kapernick and RG III and race.

    In the first place, you can’t say Moon would have any Super Bowl wins had he played in the NFL from the start of his career. Having 5 Grey Cup wins means nothing because the Canadian Football League is one step above Arena Football. Moon was never able to win a Super Bowl in the NFL after playing there for 17 years.
    Jim Kelly also had to play in the CFL before he got a chance to play QB in the NFL, and the last time I checked, Kelly is white.

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    I understand the point, but Kelly CHOSE to play in the USFL (he didn’t play in the CFL) because the USFL paid a lot better. Sort of like Herschel Walker and a slew of other USFL guys.

  75. flaccojumpball says:
    Jul 25, 2017 2:49 PM
    As long as the league allows him to play with deflated balls and have the cameras rolling ready to steal signals at a moments notice Brady will be a good QB. Put him in Baltimores system back in 2001 and he would have been a 3rd stringer at best. Overrated. I’d take Manning Unitas Elway Montana Marino Rodgers Brees over him easy.

    ……………….

    Too bad Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting. TB is not a “system” QB.

    If he was, Belichick would have traded him for picks and got someone cheaper looong ago. Indisputable.

  76. flaccojumpball says:

    I’d take Manning Unitas Elway Montana Marino Rodgers Brees over him easy.

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    That would mean only one thing, your team would lose the game to Brady’s team. Easy.

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