Does Belichick think Garoppolo will be the next Brady?

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Tom Brady supposedly hopes to play for another five or six seasons. Jimmy Garoppolo has only one more season of a commitment to the Patriots. So how will this one play out?

Coach Bill Belichick may eventually have to make a choice between the two. Underscoring the stakes of that decision is the possibility that Garoppolo could become the next Brady.

“Bill thinks he’s got the next great one,” an unnamed scout told Mike Giardi of CSN New England. “I watched his snaps. I think he can be that. [Garoppolo] has a great base, and his mechanics are close enough to [Brady] that you appreciate his willingness to learn and the coaching he’s gotten there.”

If Belichick truly has the next great one, so does agent Don Yee, whose firm represents both Brady and Garoppolo. Given that Brady consistently has done below-market deals with the Patriots, many assume that Garoppolo will behave the same way, especially in light of the Yee connection.

But what if Yee intends to make back from Garoppolo some of what Yee didn’t make from Brady? What if Garoppolo, buoyed by the Kirk Cousins situation and an emerging sense among players that they individually should be making more than they do, decides to play the same kind of hardball with Belichick that Belichick consistently plays with all of his players?

Garoppolo is 16 regular-season games and up to four postseason games away from becoming a free agent. And those games likely will involve little or no risk, since Plan A will be for QB1 to take all the snaps. Indeed, Garoppolo’s biggest injury risk will come over the next month, when he’s taking snaps behind the second-string offense line.

Like every other quarterback due to become a free agent, the analysis of his value is simple. The franchise tag will exceed $22 million for 2018. And that number will become at least $26.4 million for Garoppolo in 2019 and at least $38 million for 2020. That’s a minimum of $86.4 million that Garoppolo would make on a year-to-year basis over three years, if the Patriots keep using the franchise tag to keep him in place.

If they don’t tag him in any given year, Garoppolo would hit the open market — and possibly hit the jackpot. Ultimately, then, the question will be whether he’s not only the “next great one” but also the next great one to accept less-than-great contracts in a sport where the stars seem to be waking up to the leverage they possess.

48 responses to “Does Belichick think Garoppolo will be the next Brady?

  1. For anyone not familiar with Mike Giardi it is a not so inside joke at CSNNE that Giardi’s primary unnamed source is in fact Mike Giardi. Whatever Belichick thinks he most assuredly is not sharing it with anyone that would ever share it with Giardi.
    If it came to it Belichick would not hesitate to franchise Garoppolo, whether to keep or trade him.

  2. The Patriots are in pretty decent cap shape now with 13.5ish M if you just look at the numbers. However, there are guys like Cooks and Brady whose cap charges go up at least 7m each next year and Nate Solder who is an UFA in ’18. I omitted Butler (they seem to want to let him go), Ealy (1 year rental for almost nothing?) and others but the Patriots may not have enough to pay both Brady and Jimmy and it would be a tough sell even to Kraft to cut Brady loose.

  3. when Brett Favre played for Atlanta he stats were 0 for 1 with a pick 6, Goff and RGIII both commanded 3 first round picks.

    One thing no team did was offer Bellichek fair market value for a starting NFL QB as far as Jimmy G is concerned.

    I honestly think Bellichek air apparent might have more say in it, Bellichek within the next 5 years is probably going to retire.

  4. The possible downfall of the great dynasty in the new millennium starts now with this controversy. If The Patriots screw over Brady, that fan base splits. That’s the crack.

  5. Brady is signed through 2019. He’ll certainly play out that contract.

    Jimmy G is cheap for 2017, but what about after? Franchise and trade is the most likely. NE isn’t going to pay $18M for JG to carry a clipboard. Plus, he wants to play…

  6. Next year, NE is going to have to make a similar decision with Brady that the Colts did with Peyton Manning. The question comes down to investing in next year or the next 10 years? At his age, Brady is a year to year proposition. Like with Manning and Favre, the decline can be quick at that age. Meanwhile, Garoppolo has all the attributes they want in a QB. He’s very technically sound, with a clean throwing motion, has a compact delivery and is a quick and efficient decision-maker. By all reports, he has leadership qualities needed for the position.

    As a fan of another AFC East team, I hope that the Patriots make the wrong decision and ship Garoppolo out of the division. If the Patriots do keep Garoppolo, I think they will continue to perform at a high level well into the next decade, even if Brady leaves with Belichick. It wouldn’t shock me at all if they tie down Garoppolo with a long term contract next year, which balloons in cap hit after year 2 while allowing Brady to finish out his contract in 2018. This is too important of a call for them to leave to chance.

  7. If I was Garoppolo, and my agent was messing around with Bellicheck like that, I’d can him. Any other team? Sure. The Patriots, the ultimate winning franchise? Nah.

  8. I disagree with the idea that Belichick will retire anytime soon. He does not like Don Shula and IMO he wants to surpass his all-time wins record.

  9. “Bill thinks he’s got the next great one,” an unnamed scout told Mike Giardi of CSN New England.

    Thanks unnamed source. Thanks Giardi.

  10. Brady can’t play another 10 years. Everyone is 1 hit from retirement. Silly to even project 3 years.

    I played in a touch/tackle forever and led the league in INT’s at age 40. I’d already lost 5 steps. I once played super fast, but played on pure instinct the last 4 years. At new positions, no less.

    Hitting 37 was a killer. Softball stopped that year. Not interested in beer leagues. In football I switched from WR to S for 1 year. Then to LB’r for 3 but it’s so easy to cheat when you blitz the other LB’r (who was crazy fast) forcing the TE (8 on 8 league) to stay in, leaving me to freelance, thus the INT’s. Then they design crazy plays around a blitzing LBr and you switch to zone and so it goes.

    Those 4 years was a slow walk into hell, leaving behind a game I loved. 41 was not an option even though they begged me to play. I never said I’m going to walk away now or later, there is a point where you just know.

    I could still throw a baseball close to maybe 88ish, still catch any object thrown near me but NO LEGS and everything just hurt.

    Your legs go and your body follows.

  11. There is no next Brady.

    Garoppolo looks like he can be a franchise QB; we’ll see at some point on some team.

    But there wasn’t a QB with Brady’s big game guts before and there won’t be another one after. Enjoy what we have left.

  12. If Brady is the greatest QB of all times, and if Garoppolo is another Brady, then that means Garoppolo is also the greatest QB of all time. The Patriots drafted Garoppolo in the 2nd round and Brady in the 6th. This would mean the Patriots either have the best scouting operation in history, or they have the ability to turn any QB into the greatest ever. If this were true, there is no chance on earth they’d be willing to pay big money for Garoppolo or any other QB. Why should they, when they have the ability to produce these QBs anytime they want?

  13. Hints of Brady’s imminent decline could be seen in the first half of Super Bowl 51. He came alive in the second half, true, but Atlanta foolishly stuck with the man-to-man defense and their players, having played two games worth of downs, were wildly out of gas. Keep in mind Brady must play a full season next year, no more four-game rests. It will all end sooner than anyone thinks. It usually does. Ask Manning.

  14. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Patriots decided to trade Tom Brady or Jimmy Garoppolo next year because they’re going to have to make a decision soon. In spite of the fact that Tom Brady could probably play another 2 or 3 great years in New England he’s also 40 years old and can still draw a lot of interest which makes me begrudgingly think that they should let him go and not Garoppolo.

  15. Seprix says:
    Jul 22, 2017 11:35 PM
    If I was Garoppolo, and my agent was messing around with Bellicheck like that, I’d can him. Any other team? Sure. The Patriots, the ultimate winning franchise? Nah.

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    Please. You’d pull a Brock Oswieler and grab the cash. SB rings for guys that don’t play in the game don’t fetch all world prices.

    Stop lying.

  16. “Indeed, Garoppolo’s biggest injury risk will come over the next month, when he’s taking snaps behind the second-string offense line.”

    We don’t know that to be true … Brady could suffer another knee injury (or something else) that would take him out for the year … Not only would Garoppolo then be at risk for injury, he also could be setting the table for the decision to be made with his future there in NE.

  17. While I like Jimmy Garoppolo, it’s a fantasy to project “another Brady”. Tom Brady is considered by many to be the best to ever play QB. With Garoppolo, maybe you get an upper echelon quarterback.

    I cannot see Robert Kraft allowing Tom Brady to leave until there is REAL proof that his game is slipping. He set a bunch of records in the Super Bowl to think that time is now. If they want to wait a year, we’ll see.

  18. the thought of the Patriots continuing to dominate the rest of the league for another 15 years has to make the rest of the league green with envy. oh wait…they’re already green with envy…

  19. onemorethentherest says:
    Jul 22, 2017 11:22 PM
    The possible downfall of the great dynasty in the new millennium starts now with this controversy. If The Patriots screw over Brady, that fan base splits. That’s the crack.

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    In Oakland this is known as California Dreamin’. Its what the song is about really.

  20. There he goes again…

    Florio is CONSTANTLY trying to convince players to risk their carers and future earning to reach for the golden ring. It is never going to happen.

    Players understand how short their career can really be and we understand how important it is to get the guarantee money up front. This is a violent sport and players will always attempt to lock up as much guarantee money as possible, which means that the players want long term contracts – not short term deals that MAY make them more money someday. There is too much at risk to take that chance.

    Players also believe that the teams will work together to make sure that a player NEVER benefits from using the leverage that Floria believes exists.

    Players enjoy their star status among the public and understand that they would never make this kind of money anywhere else – they won’t put that at risk by voting for a work stoppage. Even though some believe the players lost under the current CBA, the players also understand that they will make a ton of money under that same CBA – and that is good enough when considering the alternative.

    It”s not perfect for the players, and they will fight for a better deal – but they understand that it is pretty damn good to be an NFL player right now. They are not going to put that cash flow at risk by following a reporter’s misguided advice and going year by year. Flora likes to look at how much the player could gain (potentially), but fail to consider how much they could lose. The safer choice for players that don’t have a Plan B is to take what they can get under the current, although flawed, CBA.

  21. We can all agree Giardi is a hack. Yes Brady is old, but even Peyton had a swan song and won a SB that no one would expect… goodness Tom may even win two.

    -Texans fan

  22. firerogergoodellnow says:
    Jul 22, 2017 11:28 PM
    Between Belichick and Brady, when one of them decides to retire, the other will too.
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    False.
    It’s been reported on by every source that Belichick is going to coach beyond Brady.
    My sense is that this will be Brady’s last year. He has family pressure from both his wife and father to retire. Also, I’ve never seen the Patriots go this aggressive in free agency ever. Brady’s retirement party?

  23. After this year Brady (with his blessing) gets traded to a West Coast team to be closer with his first child and Jimmy takes over leading the Pats to another string of SuperBowls. Sorry, Bills’ fans.

  24. if he is going to be the next Brady will he need the “Deflators” cell number??

  25. Guys like Brady don’t come along everyday. To say Jimmy G is the next TB because he looks good in practice and has < 6 full games as a starter experience is just wishful thinking.

  26. The Pats should stay with Mr. Brady until he decides to retire . He has earned that right . Also, pointerdogs above is 100% correct “nobody will be the next Brady” ; ever.

  27. When it comes to trying to make predictions about what BB will do, it becomes an exercise in who can look the least silly…

    As to my own efforts in that regard:

    Is Jimmy G the next Brady? Nope. No one is or ever will be.

    Is he a franchise qb, that a good team could potentially win title(s) with? Lots of indicators point to yes.

    Will Jimmy leave after this season? I highly doubt it. NE is by far the best fit for him if he wants to compete and win (talent, scheme, coaching, etc.) vs cashing in with a bad team.

    BB preaches meritocracy above all else. The only way I see Jimmy leaving is if he isn’t willing to bet on himself and doesn’t think he can out-compete a 41 yr old… Even if said 41 yr old is the undisputed GOAT.

  28. latinlover11 says:
    Jul 22, 2017 11:28 PM
    Next year, NE is going to have to make a similar decision with Brady that the Colts did with Peyton Manning. The question comes down to investing in next year or the next 10 years? At his age, Brady is a year to year proposition. Like with Manning and Favre, the decline can be quick at that age. Meanwhile, Garoppolo has all the attributes they want in a QB. He’s very technically sound, with a clean throwing motion, has a compact delivery and is a quick and efficient decision-maker. By all reports, he has leadership qualities needed for the position.

    As a fan of another AFC East team, I hope that the Patriots make the wrong decision and ship Garoppolo out of the division. If the Patriots do keep Garoppolo, I think they will continue to perform at a high level well into the next decade, even if Brady leaves with Belichick. It wouldn’t shock me at all if they tie down Garoppolo with a long term contract next year, which balloons in cap hit after year 2 while allowing Brady to finish out his contract in 2018. This is too important of a call for them to leave to chance.

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    The challenge with that thinking is there are no guarantees Garoppolo can win the way Brady has.

    Take the Colts move with Peyton that you pointed out. Who came out better on that deal? So far it’s Denver by a mile. Manning took them to two Superbowls and was able to beat the Patriots to get there both times.

    Imagine what Indy could have gotten for trading the Luck pick? Peyton might have done the same in Indy.

    Luck will have to perform very well over the next while to make letting Peyton go a smart move.

  29. BB saw what happened to the colts when manning got hurt and fell fast and planned accordingly.When he drafted JG,everyone said it was a wasted pick.Now his plan has come to frution.Name all the teams with great QBs,now name all the teams with 2nd tier QBs,finished?Now name their backups?BB didn’t plan years ago to just throw his plan away,if he has to pay both he will pay both.The redskins drafted 2 QBs in the same draft…BB is smarter than the redskins.Will he trade Brady or will Brady retire?Who knows.Brady has said he didn’t want to play for any other coach and BB loves Brady.BB and Brady are of the same mold…whats best for the team,and I’m sure they have discussed this in their weekly meetings.Personally I don’t think he will trade Brady..ever..when he went to Brady,after the SB,and lifted him up..that was love,plain and simple.I also think Brady will renegotiate a team friendly deal so he can remain a Patriot(he has said he wanted to play for only 1 team/coach) and that the future of “his team” will carry on..he is of course a different breed of a player and thinks team first.

  30. First, the whole notion that Garoppolo will take less just because Brady took less, is absurd. Brady had the backing of a wife, who is worth $360M. It is EASY to take a lot less, or literally even play for nothing if you have that kind of backing…not that anyone would actually play for nothing.

    Unless TB12 has his wife introduce Garoppolo to Karlie Kloss or Taylor Swift, the ONE reason it might make sense to Garoppolo to take less, but much later on, is if it does seem like he is doing great, and the Patriots win a few titles with him.

    For a player, other than they want to win them, titles equate to name recognition, which equates to more endorsement money. It can be possible, once JG has earned a first good contract AND if they are still doing well, for JG to take a lesser contract knowing that he can make it up on the back end in endorsements.

  31. pointerdogs says:
    Jul 23, 2017 7:19 AM
    Nobody will be the next Brady.
    ________________
    AGREED……that just won’t happen….but Jimmy G might be the next Rogers & if BB stays after Brady does hang up his cleats, I believe Jimmy will have more success at the position with the Patfiots than Rogers has had with the Packers…..so I’d be ok with having a Rogers type replacement when Brady retires, that works for me!!
    My best guess is that Brady plays thru his current contract & then retires as long as he doesn’t fall off a cliff durring that time… Patriots sign Jimmy to a 4 year extension with a nice signing bonus & the contract being mostly backloaded so that when Brady’s contract is off the books & as the salary cap expands in that time it won’t be too tough of a hit when it becomes due to pay Jimmy some big money…. Who knows, they may even renegotiate the contract after 2 years & sign him long term to a six year deal at that stage….. Point is, lots COULD HAPPEN & if the Pats feel they have the next Rogers waiting in the wings, they can find a way to both make Jimmy happy as well as keep him long term
    Go Pats!!!!

  32. Whats with this theory that Brady has taken less money because of his wife??Tell you what you do,its called research…google tom bradys vs peyton mannings earnings since 2000 and tell me who had made more money…then google how many years Brady has been married(8) and then tell me who had made over 100 million more than the other….not the 5x SB CHAMP.

  33. Yes Garoppolo, think about yourself. Just like Brady thinks about himself when he takes as little money as possible from the team’s cap space. Taking less cap space -> stronger team -> more success -> more fame and promotional power for yourself -> far more $$$ in your bottom line than if you’d maximized your contract.

    TLDR if you are a 3rd string running back for the Jaguars, you get every dollar you can from the team. If you are (potentially) the face of one of the largest sports franchises in the world, you approach things much differently.

  34. mikespillane337 says:
    Jul 23, 2017 10:09 AM
    Whats with this theory that Brady has taken less money because of his wife??Tell you what you do,its called research…google tom bradys vs peyton mannings earnings since 2000 and tell me who had made more money…then google how many years Brady has been married(8) and then tell me who had made over 100 million more than the other….not the 5x SB CHAMP.
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    What’s with the theory he has actually taken less money at all? Sure Brady could have held the Pats up for more but a close look at those numbers would illustrate something much more telling. Peyton and Brady are $52M apart in career earnings. Thanks to being the first overall pick Manning out earned Brady by $64M through 2004. Meaning from ’05 onward Brady actually out earned Peyton. But Brady has always taken team friendly deals you say so what deviltry is this? Take a look at how they made the bulk of their cash. 52% of Peyton’s earnings were in salary, only 22% of Brady’s was. That is not a misprint, 78% of Tom Brady’s cash earnings have come in the form of bonuses. Confidence and trust between player and team is the real key to those cap friendly deals. Never once has the team forced him into playing a contract year. Tom Brady has consistently gotten his up front guaranteed while never once singing for his supper. His ability has only been exceeded by his confidence and the team’s faith in him. He is the best player of the Super Bowl era and when it comes to getting a franchise player paid without handcuffing the cap the Patriots are the smartest kid in the room. Brady’s faith, Kraft’s business acumen and Belichick’s economics degree influenced football judgement came together to create the perfect storm not just on the field but in the accounting room.

  35. raidernation210 says:
    Jul 23, 2017 8:33 AM

    if he is going to be the next Brady will he need the “Deflators” cell number??

    —————————————————————-

    “Deflator” was a buzz word that was found in an out of context off season text message.
    “Nov. 30, 2014 text from Mr. McNally to Mr. Jastremski: ‘deflate and give somebody that jacket.’ … ”

    The “deflategate” game was played on January 18, 2015.

    The marketing department of the NFL understood that it would be easy to market a buzzword to simpletons. The NFL knew full well that they could permanently dupe gullible fools by getting the mass media to continuously repeat simplistic buzzwords.

    By comparison, intelligent people who were capable of understanding 7th grade science knew that the cold weather & rain explained why the Patriots and Colts footballs had measurements below the league mandated 12.50 PSI.

    Cold weather also explains the following from a 2016 PFT article: “The Giants informed the league that two balls used by the Steelers in Week 13 were underinflated after the team tested them on their sideline following turnovers.”

    Cold can also be seen deflating footballs in a video posted online. Just search the popular online vides site for: “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”.

    Don’t forget that Roger Goodell is still hiding the PSI information from the 2015 NFL season for a reason.

  36. If Belichick believes in Garoppolo then I can’t wait for Garoppolo era to begin.

  37. PiedPiper says:
    Jul 23, 2017 6:37 AM
    onemorethentherest says:
    Jul 22, 2017 11:22 PM
    The possible downfall of the great dynasty in the new millennium starts now with this controversy. If The Patriots screw over Brady, that fan base splits. That’s the crack.

    —————–

    In Oakland this is known as California Dreamin’. Its what the song is about really.

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    Not even a Raiders fan, but it’s good to know who is paying free rent in your mind

  38. So what about this thought…Since we really have no idea of what level of success and injury this season may bring…suppose the Pats do just ok this year, I’m a fan but not stupid, do I think they could win it all sure, do I think they will…no. Very difficult and certainly good fortune has to be on your side as well as skill. So they do ok this year, and the Pats franchise JG for next year. If Brady shows any decline they swap them out, TB is benched and JG is the starter. TB’s contract is easier to swallow as a backup and either he stays as one or he leaves of his own accord.

  39. The problem with supporters of this theory is that they all use circular logic that goes like this:
    Bill did not trade Garoppolo this offseason because he clearly thinks he’s the QB of the future. How do I know what Bill thinks? Well, if he didn’t think that Garoppolo is the QB of the future then Bill would have traded him this offseason. Giardi is the main proponent of this theory and everyone here in Boston knows that there’s some kind of romance brewing between them with Giardi defending JG in every single instance.

    I doubt Bill has that much faith in Garoppolo. The real question that no one is asking is “Why is Brady still around if Bill has already found his replacement?”.

  40. Lemme see… The quarterback is the most important position on the offense. Contrary to “conventional wisdom” defense doesn’t win games all that often. You need to post points on the board. You have a limited amount of money to spend on players, and need to spend the money wisely, where it is most likely to improve your chance for a successful season.

    But… every player is one play away from an injury and being out of the game, or worse..

    So, why wouldn’t you want to pay for two top notch quarterbacks? Would you rather just put all your eggs in one basket and hope your #1 QB doesn’t get hurt? How many great teams have had their seasons completely blown after the starting QB was injured and the backup was not a starting caliber player?

    A smart betting man would have at least 2 starting level QBs on the roster at all times

  41. factpurveyor says:
    Jul 23, 2017 1:57 PM
    raidernation210 says:
    “comparison, intelligent people who were capable of understanding 7th grade science knew that the cold weather & rain explained why the Patriots and Colts footballs had measurements below the league mandated 12.50 PSI.”

    We Dolphin fans have long since stopped complaining about Bert Jones’ miscalled fumble. We barely remember who Bert Jones WAS. Sometime, you gotta move on…

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