PFT preseason power rankings No. 3: Green Bay Packers

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Seven years ago, the Packers barely made it to the playoffs. And then they went on the road for three straight playoff games, made it to the Super Bowl, and won the whole damn thing. Since then, the Packers rarely have had to struggle to get to the postseason, but they’ve been unable to get back to the Super Bowl.

In 2011, a franchise-best 15-1 record evaporated into a one-and-done Lambeau loss to the Giants. In 2012, another division title and a wild-card win led to a shredding in San Francisco by a quarterback now deemed to be unfit to play. The next year resulted in another division title (despite an 8-7-1) record and another home loss, this time to the same team, and the same currently-unemployed quarterback.

The Packers went 12-4 in 2014, culminating in a defeat-snatched-from-victory’s-jaws NFC title game loss in Seattle. The next year, a wild-card berth resulted in an overtime loss in a division-round game for the ages in Arizona. Last year, the Packers caught fire after a 4-6 start and made it to the NFC title game again, running out of steam in Atlanta.

This year, they again sit near the top of the stack as the season approaches. And their CEO believes that, after two NFC title-game appearances in the last three years, this time they’ll punch through, making the short trip across the border and playing for their fifth Super Bowl trophy in the Vikings’ living room. They’ll definitely get at least close. Whether they can finish the job is another issue entirely.

Biggest positive change: Ted Thompson hasn’t signed many free agents over the years, but when tight end Jared Cook made a cash grab, Thompson said sayonara and signed Martellus Bennett. While Bennett may not make a spectacular postseason catch that takes out the Cowboys in Dallas, Bennett likely will be an upgrade, especially since Bennett has had the better overall career. With Cook’s performance perhaps finally persuading Thompson of the value of having a competent pass-catching tight end (something they haven’t had since Jermichael Finley), Bennett becomes the guy who maybe can make the difference for an offense that is loaded at plenty of other positions, primarily the one responsible for throwing the football to guys like Bennett.

Biggest negative change: Pro Bowl guard T.J. Lang jumped to the Lions in free agency, months after the Packers dumped guard Josh Sitton and he landed with the Bears. While some would say interior linemen are fungible, it’s not easy to let quality guys like Lang and Sitton (and center JC Tretter) leave and hope that the next man up will help keep the quarterback from being the next man down.

Coaching thermometer: Who the hell knows? The standard for Mike McCarthy doesn’t seem to be the same as it is elsewhere, where a single owner can decide in any given year (or on any given day) that the coach isn’t getting the most out of the roster. In Green Bay, it’s different. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on whether the individual owner would make good or bad decisions about keeping or changing coaches.

But here’s one thing that’s hard to dispute. A traditional owner likely would have pushed Thompson to push McCarthy to push defensive coordinator Dom Capers out the door. And many would say that the consistent failure of the defense to properly complement Rodgers and the offense justifies a new approach during however many years Rodgers has left.

We’d like to have a beer with . . . Mike Daniels. The underrated and outspoken interior defensive lineman would hopefully loosen up and share his insights on what’s going right and what’s going wrong with a Packers team that always gets close but can’t get over the top. Is Rodgers a good leader? Where could he do better?

When Rodgers said last year that the team lacked energy on the sideline and then said there needs to be a healthy fear of getting cut, did the players see that as a shot at McCarthy?

Who isn’t carrying his weight? Is Capers the problem?

It may take more than a few beers to get to the bottom of this one. But we’d sure love to try. Even if I’d be passed out before Daniels begins baring his soul.

How they could prove us wrong: If Bennett and Rodgers simply don’t mix (and their personalities are clearly different), that could create a layer of dysfunction that could make it hard to get through what has been an annual stretch of underachievement and adversity. And if running back Ty Montgomery can’t take the week-in, week-out   pounding now that he has made the full-time switch from receiver, they may regret letting Eddie Lacy walk — and not making a run at Adrian Peterson. Chances are, though, that they’ll still find a way to still be standing when the field is cut to eight or four. The question remains whether they can keep it together when the field gets cut to two.

100 responses to “PFT preseason power rankings No. 3: Green Bay Packers

  1. I would say this is about right. Atlanta and New England deserve to be higher but that is about it. With the new weapons to throw to plus the addition of two secondary rookies who run sub 4.5 – 40 yard dash times, this season could be fun!

  2. Number 3, seriously? Rodgers is good and the team made some changes, but come on . . . he ain’t the whole team.

  3. No defense.

    No running attack.

    Coach who makes poor decisions and cannot make in-game adjustments to save his life.

    An elite QB with no weapons and no support.

    Another easy run through their cream cheese division, and another playoff loss to a team with a defense.

  4. this is one of the worst power rankings lists I’ve ever seen. The Steelers and Packers in top 4?!? Pandering to the teams with the most (annoying) fans, anyone?

  5. It must be training camp time.

    Clay Matthews petitioned Mike McCarthy to take a few practice sacks away from his teammates. Letroy Guion was pulled over while ridding his bike to the practice field. Mark Murphy is telling everyone how the Packers are going to win the Super Bowl this year.

  6. Well it’s good to know that the 25th ranked Redskins, who stomped the packers last year, can hang with a top 5 team….

  7. Basically it is PFT’s contention that Aaron Rodgers is worth the 3 spot, there isn’t any other reason they would be in the top 15. Rodgers is among the best I’ve ever seen but the Packers certainly are not better than an even moderately healthy Seattle, Pittsburgh or Oakland.

  8. Because GB has Rodgers they deserve the credit they get for the most part, but the defense isn’t championship quality yet. If they win it all it will have to be all on Rodgers.

  9. No defense…hmmm

    They haven’t played a game yet. They have added new pieces to the defense during the off season. Other young players have a season under their belt. Then others have recovered from injuries.

    This is not going to be last years defense.

  10. When they won the last two of their SB’s they had a dominant defensive player, Reggie White first, then Charles Woodson. They lack THAT guy anymore. Clay is not the same as he was 6 years ago, Peppers is gone (thank God), no D playmakers though Daniels is a bull, but he’s no Reggie. That will be their downfall once again. I would take AR as my fantasy QB though.

  11. crownofthehelmet says:
    Jul 24, 2017 4:48 PM
    3?! They’re barely the 3rd best team in their division.
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    Dude, your team’s Super Bowl loss was 7 years ago.
    It’s time to let it go already.
    Seriously.

  12. 14-2 and an NFL record 14th championship in the home of their inept, dysfunctional, underachieving division “rival”.
    Your 2017 Green Bay Packers, it’s gonna be a GREAT ride! Enjoy witnessing history Viking fans, just like a migraine that won’t go away.

  13. The packers only have a few things that get in their way of making a super bowl run…they are…

    the entire coaching staff
    the entire defense
    the athletic trainers

    Aside from that, they are a shoe in.

  14. The Packers went 12-4 in 2014, culminating in a defeat-snatched-from-victory’s-jaws NFC title game loss in Seattle.
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    They only played Seattle because a ref didn’t know what a catch was. Even Rogers thought it was a catch, look at a replay of his reaction. The Packers fans thought it was a catch, the stadium went dead silent. The Cowboys were the only single team that beat the Seahawks in their stadium that season. They would have done it again if they weren’t robbed.

  15. Look at all this negativity. I’m a little surprised, since I think Atlanta is going to regress. I’d put the Pack at 2, but whatever. You guys sure didn’t go out on any limbs in your top 6!

  16. Number 3? Your undying packer love clouds your thinking. The only improvement made from last year is a tight end. They already scored 30 points a game so adding a TE is gonna do what? Conversely, they lost Jones and Peppers on the d line, leaving only an aging Mathews as a legitimate pass rusher. Did you watch the playoffs last year? Against decent teams they barely squeaked out a win in Dallas and got absolutely crushed by the Falcons offense.

    With their normal help from the refs this year they’ll probably win 10 games. That hardly assures them of making it anywhere near the super bowl.

  17. Fun Fact: Packers have NEVER won a game in US Bank Stadium. I don’t see any way that changes this year. I think the Packers have a decent shot at the wildcard, assuming Rodgers stays healthy, and then we all know they’ll be an easy out for someone in the playoffs. They still don’t have a defense to contend against elite teams.

  18. This is a tremendous honor. It is both humbling and gratifying to be so well respected and beloved on a national basis, when fan bias is removed from the ranking criteria.

    The 13 time World Champion Green Bay Packers.

    Better football.

    For better people.

  19. in 2001 after 2 weeks, the Patriots were ranked #31 and the Colts #1, and there were only 31 teams then. I can;t put much into these rankings at this point

  20. Honestly, I really like this ranking. I do believe they won’t be nearly this high by midseason, probably sooner. But based on last year’s final standings, and that’s really what these rankings are based on, it’s hard to argue against. I can’t wait for the regular season and I’m praying for no preseason major injuries.

  21. I’m sure the marginal improvement at tight end and adding a bunch of rookies to the secondary will vault the Packers into the Super Bowl!

  22. Before you hate, just make sure you refer to him as ‘2015 PRO BOWL MVP’ Matthew Stafford says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:16 PM
    You’re telling me this is the best team in the NFL that was not in the Super Bowl last year? They got worse in the offseason, and started 4-6 last year. Sure they ran the table, but their defense is terrible

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    The best team in the NFL not in superbowl last year was the Raiders.

  23. rogerdodger99 says:
    Jul 24, 2017 4:41 PM
    Did they fix their abysmal defensive back situation? If so, maybe.
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    I guess only time will tell. Their #1 DB from last year is is out of the league due to concussion. But their #2 and #3 DBs, who missed games and gimped through others due to injuries have had off-season surgery. So, with them being 100% to start the season, the signing of Davon House, and the drafting of Kevin King and Josh Jones, there is certainly reason to be optimistic.

  24. whatjusthapped says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:31 PM

    The Vikings are projected at #20, the Packers at #3, seems all is right with the world.
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    If you think the Vikings are going to finish 17 spots behind the Packers this year, I’d like to sell you some beachfront property in Elk Mound.

  25. I don’t understand how a team with Aaron (expletive) Rodgers can let the line get worse and worse, and continue to fail to improve the defense. It’s like they secretly want to lose, and are trying to do it in the sneakiest way possible.

  26. The stalker-haters whose auto-notifications alerted them to this Packer story all seem to be annoyed and believe this third-place subjective analysis was posted by Packer fans themselves. It was not.

    It was posted by people that study these things and compile their logical reasons. They obviously believe, as I do, there is much more to this team than Aaron Rodgers.

    Sorry you have to be force-fed this opinion, but again, it wasn’t us that posted it.

    Bon appetit!

  27. It’s funny. No matter where Florio had them ranked, the haters would still offer their petty comments.
    The fact is, without Aaron Rodgers, this team would probably struggle to win 8 games. So all the Aaron Rodgers critics can stuff it. He is still the best QB in the NFC and is ahead of everyone else not named Tom Brady. But he does more than Brady does with his ability to run and throw.
    If you look at the NFC, there isn’t one team which jumps out as way better than everyone else. The Falcons aren’t as good as they played in that NFC title game and if the Packers played any defense at all, they’d have beaten them. They had the Patriots on the floor in the SB, but they couldn’t close the door.
    The Cowboys defense is still suspect, the Eagles always find a way to shoot themselves in the foot, and the Giants look like they’ve improved their offense and could win the NFC East unless Manning throws 20 + interceptions again. Seattle is showing signs of age and they aren’t the same team which won the Super Bowl either. The Cards will probably play better, but they aren’t scaring anyone either. The Lions played much better in the 2nd half last year, and they are improving. But like the Packers, they play a tougher schedule this year. The Redskins are better too, but they probably won’t survive in their division.
    So — sneer all you want, Packers haters. But until someone else wins the division, they still own the NFCN and will be back in the playoffs where anything can happen.

  28. Big Deal. Good enough to get into the dance, but not good enough to win the whole thing. That’s the torture for TT and Packer nation for the next 10 years.

  29. Vikings are ranked 17 spots behind Packers, and that might be too high for MN. Looks like the Packers need a bigger rear view mirror for this season. Viking fans keep saying that kowledgable people have the Vikings ranked much higher, but I haven’t seen anyone rank them better than middle of the pack. Should be a fun season.

  30. I for one am ecstatic that the packers are one of the better teams. They dangle the carrot in front of their insufferable fans and yank it from them them in the most glorious fashion. I can’t wait to see how it happens this year. My only regret is that it won’t be as epic as: 4th and 26th, favre interception v giants, 15-1, kap running wild, Larry fitz, Atlanta, or the best of all: 2014 NFC Choke-ionship game. But one can always be optimistic.

  31. funshipm174 says:
    Jul 24, 2017 6:40 PM
    Big Deal. Good enough to get into the dance, but not good enough to win the whole thing. That’s the torture for TT and Packer nation for the next 10 years.

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    What loser team are you a fan of? Just asking. My bet is you’d love to have your team be in the position the Packers are in.

  32. Before you hate, just make sure you refer to him as ‘2015 PRO BOWL MVP’ Matthew Stafford says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:16 PM
    You’re telling me this is the best team in the NFL that was not in the Super Bowl last year? They got worse in the offseason, and started 4-6 last year. Sure they ran the table, but their defense is terrible

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    The Pro Bowl is a joke.
    And, I like Matthew Stafford and think he’s the 2nd best QB in the division, but he couldn’t carry Aaron Rodger’s water bucket and you know it.

  33. pkrh8tr says:
    Jul 24, 2017 7:05 PM
    I for one am ecstatic that the packers are one of the better teams. They dangle the carrot in front of their insufferable fans and yank it from them them in the most glorious fashion. I can’t wait to see how it happens this year. My only regret is that it won’t be as epic as: 4th and 26th, favre interception v giants, 15-1, kap running wild, Larry fitz, Atlanta, or the best of all: 2014 NFC Choke-ionship game. But one can always be optimistic.

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    Lemme guess. Vikings fan, huh? Waa waa waa….. And tell them to get their draft pick in on time.

    And chew on this: Packers have won more championships than any other NFL team — 13 of them to be exact. That’s #1 — the best.
    Have fun this year looking up at the Packers and Lions this year, down there with the Bears. In fact — you’ll probably be looking up at the Bears, too.
    It’s good for you, though. You need to draft very high to get a QB. Unless you want to wait for Aaron Rodgers when he turns about 40.

  34. abninf says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:25 PM
    The Packers went 12-4 in 2014, culminating in a defeat-snatched-from-victory’s-jaws NFC title game loss in Seattle.
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    They only played Seattle because a ref didn’t know what a catch was. Even Rogers thought it was a catch, look at a replay of his reaction. The Packers fans thought it was a catch, the stadium went dead silent. The Cowboys were the only single team that beat the Seahawks in their stadium that season. They would have done it again if they weren’t robbed.

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    It was not a catch. If you don’t believe me, look it up!! Ha ha ha.
    And — you conveniently forget that the week before an official did something never done in the history of the NFL before!! He picked up a flag thrown by another official for pass interference on the Cowboys — which it clearly was and he had already announced to everyone — and instead of the Lions having a 1st down, it’s 4th down.
    There is no way in hell he can do that, but he did it!!
    Plus — Dez Bryant ran out on the field screaming with his helmet off when interference was called, which clearly should have been penalized as well!!
    It came out later that that official, Pete Morelli, had spent time with your owner — Jerruh Jones — on his yacht before the season, making what he did even more outrageous.
    Finally — even if Dez Drop-The-Ball Bryant had caught that ball, Green Bay would still have won the game. Aaron Rodgers was killing the Cowboys defense at that point of the game and he would have taken them right down the field to win the game.
    So — when you talk about bad calls costing teams games — the Lions should have been playing the Packers, not the Cowboys, anyway!
    Michael Irvin got away with pushing off his whole career, so Cowboys fans are the last fans ever who should ever complain about bad calls. He even admits it now. It’s no secret that the NFL loves having the Cowboys in the playoffs.

  35. I’m not a Viking fan but I get why you rip on them. It’s all you got. And no one but you cares about your championships when there were four teams in the league.

  36. pkrh8tr says:
    Jul 24, 2017 7:05 PM
    I for one am ecstatic that the packers are one of the better teams. They dangle the carrot in front of their insufferable fans and yank it from them them in the most glorious fashion. I can’t wait to see how it happens this year. My only regret is that it won’t be as epic as: 4th and 26th, favre interception v giants, 15-1, kap running wild, Larry fitz, Atlanta, or the best of all: 2014 NFC Choke-ionship game. But one can always be optimistic.

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    It seems like you’re well versed in those playoff losses. Not surprising. Since your team wasn’t playing on any of those weekends, you had plenty of time to watch the Packers.

  37. The Phantom Stranger says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:53 PM
    I’m sure the marginal improvement at tight end and adding a bunch of rookies to the secondary will vault the Packers into the Super Bowl!
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    The Packers’ improvement at TE is significantly better than the Vikings improvement on the O-line. News flash: just because you pay them like pro-bowlers doesn’t mean they are pro-bowlers.

  38. nitzie says:
    Jul 24, 2017 8:12 PM
    pkrh8tr says:
    Jul 24, 2017 7:05 PM
    I for one am ecstatic that the packers are one of the better teams. They dangle the carrot in front of their insufferable fans and yank it from them them in the most glorious fashion. I can’t wait to see how it happens this year. My only regret is that it won’t be as epic as: 4th and 26th, favre interception v giants, 15-1, kap running wild, Larry fitz, Atlanta, or the best of all: 2014 NFC Choke-ionship game. But one can always be optimistic.

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    It seems like you’re well versed in those playoff losses. Not surprising. Since your team wasn’t playing on any of those weekends, you had plenty of time to watch the Packers.
    —-

    Actually my team was playing. But living in Mequon wi I do get to see the epic packer playoff loses. And it’s oh so much fun

  39. The Pack should be rated high — they’ve got Rodgers and made it deep into the playoffs. Didn’t hurt a bit to say that. Yet it doesn’t mean they’ll finish the year that way any more than it means the Vikes, Lions and Bears will be rated 20th or whatever the hell they’re rated. I’m just looking forward to the actual damn games when we can all blame the refs and our own team’s mistakes for losses rather than the quality of the opponent.

  40. NyNeal, Packers have 4 SB titles. No one cares about titles won in the 1930s. This is the Super Bowl era, you have 4, be happy with that.

  41. abninf says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:25 PM
    The Packers went 12-4 in 2014, culminating in a defeat-snatched-from-victory’s-jaws NFC title game loss in Seattle.
    ====================================

    They only played Seattle because a ref didn’t know what a catch was. Even Rogers thought it was a catch, look at a replay of his reaction. The Packers fans thought it was a catch, the stadium went dead silent. The Cowboys were the only single team that beat the Seahawks in their stadium that season. They would have done it again if they weren’t robbed.

    These Cowboys fans always seem to have amnesia about the fact that even if the the catch, that wasn’t a catch, had counted, it would have been at worst a 29-26 game. The game ended with the Packers taking a knee at the Cowboys 28 with a minute and a half left. I think the right team won…..

  42. The refs had to make up penalties to give GB additional plays to beat Detroit. Otherwise, they didn’t even win their own division.

    Horribly over rated. As usual.

  43. Just every year, easily the most overrated team. Tigers is great, the offensive scheme is great, the defense sucks, and way low on talent everywhere except WR and QB

  44. The Phantom Stranger says:
    Jul 24, 2017 6:07 PM

    If you think the Vikings are going to finish 17 spots behind the Packers this year, I’d like to sell you some beachfront property in Elk Mound.
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    You’re not kidding, that’s ridiculous. The Vikings are not finishing anywhere near that high

  45. Drunk Uncle says:
    Jul 24, 2017 6:13 PM
    I don’t understand how a team with Aaron (expletive) Rodgers can let the line get worse and worse, and continue to fail to improve the defense. It’s like they secretly want to lose, and are trying to do it in the sneakiest way possible.

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    The Packers are the Colts of the NFC – squandering a once-in-a-generation QB talent by settling for and/or choosing mediocrity around said talent.

    Manning (with the Colts) and Rodgers should both have more than one SB win by now with said teams.

  46. The 13-time World Champion Green Bay Packers have more titles than the other top 4 teams on this list combined. And that includes the Steelers and Pats. Think of that for a moment.

  47. pkrh8tr says:
    Jul 24, 2017 8:04 PM
    I’m not a Viking fan but I get why you rip on them. It’s all you got. And no one but you cares about your championships when there were four teams in the league.

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    4 teams??? Heyyyyyy……… is that you realDonald?

  48. ariani1985 says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:38 PM
    3rd best team in the division no doubt!

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    Ah, who doesnt love the nonsensical rantings of offseason skoltrolls…

    The last ten years in the NFC North:
    Packers won 6 times, came in 2nd 3 times
    Their rank over 10 years: Mode=1, Median=1, Mean=1.5

    And yet the trolls mark their silly predictions with exclamation points, hackneyed expressions like “book it” and “no doubt”.

    Winter is coming; the Packers are and will remain The King of the North and will once again rule the seven kingdoms (as well as the eight divisions) and Aaron Rodgers will take his rightful place on the iron throne.

  49. pkrh8tr says:
    Jul 24, 2017 8:04 PM
    I’m not a Viking fan but I get why you rip on them. It’s all you got. And no one but you cares about your championships when there were four teams in the league.
    /////////////////////////////////////////

    ……and the Yankees, Celtics, and Canadiens should never mention their old championships either. Got it. Let’s all make certain history only goes back as far as you choose for everyone.

  50. “pkrh8tr says:

    I’m not a Viking fan but I get why you rip on them. It’s all you got. And no one but you cares about your championships when there were four teams in the league.”
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    Spoken like a fan of an expansion franchise. Um, that’d be everyone except the Bears, Packers, Cardinals
    and Giants. If you’re not a fan of one of these teams, the Packers Hall of Fame has Championship Game footballs on display that are older than your team.

    I’d like you to tell the Yankees that any Championship they won prior to your birthday doesn’t count. Yeah, they’d point at you and laugh too.

  51. pkrh8tr says:
    Actually my team was playing. But living in Mequon wi I do get to see the epic packer playoff loses. And it’s oh so much fun
    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    I think it’s fun that you have to live in an atmosphere you find annoying on a year-round daily basis.

  52. “purpleguy says:

    The Pack should be rated high — they’ve got Rodgers and made it deep into the playoffs. Didn’t hurt a bit to say that. Yet it doesn’t mean they’ll finish the year that way any more than it means the Vikes, Lions and Bears will be rated 20th or whatever the hell they’re rated. I’m just looking forward to the actual damn games when we can all blame the refs and our own team’s mistakes for losses rather than the quality of the opponent.”

    Good post. You’re a REAL Viking fan aren’t you? I mean, not one of the guys pretending to be Vikings fans. I’ve shared time with folks like you at Lambeau over the last 40 years plus — and — in my history, there are no better people to share time with than REAL Vikings fans. TRUTH.

  53. Yes, nothing is quite as enjoyable as the purple, parade of delusional Barney rants.

    56 straight years of bad/mediocre football have driven good natured Midwestern folks into the twisted, angry and bitter fans you’ve seen today.

    We feed off their hatred.
    Their pain only make us grow stronger.
    Their tormented cries are a like a sweet symphony to our ears.
    Their tears taste delicious.

    Please, never change.
    You are all too precious.

  54. nyneal says:

    The fact is, without Aaron Rodgers, this team would probably struggle to win 8 games.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Just would like to remind you that WITH Rodgers, the Packers have only won 10 games per season the last two years.

    So going from Rodgers to Hundley will only drop the Packers from 10 wins to 8???

    I’m surprised Ted Thompson hasn’t traded Rodgers yet if that’s the case.

    Going from Favre to Rodgers their was a 7 game swing (13 – 3 to 6 – 10).

  55. Why does everybody say their defense isnt good enough to win a SB in 2017.this isnt the same defense that allowed opponents to stay in the game against the Packers proficient offense,their young players have a year of experience under their belt and now can react because they recognize what the offense is doing. if you dont believe the Packers are that good then let your teams go out and prove it on the field.good luck with that,eh.

  56. Wow, every Viking troll out there has made an appearance. The fans of the #20 ranked team still throwing shade in the #3 team. be Sounds right. Pkrh8ter how many times you gonna post? Try channeling some of that energy into something positive for a change.

  57. stella spews:
    Jul 25, 2017 7:30 AM
    pkrh8tr says:
    Actually my team was playing. But living in Mequon wi I do get to see the epic packer playoff loses. And it’s oh so much fun
    ////////////////////////////////////////////

    I think it’s fun that you have to live in an atmosphere you find annoying on a year-round daily basis.
    —-
    It is fun. The fans are extremely annoying. But it’s all worth it when the annual choke happens. I get giddy!

  58. marvin1958 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 7:34 AM

    “purpleguy says:

    The Pack should be rated high — they’ve got Rodgers and made it deep into the playoffs. Didn’t hurt a bit to say that. Yet it doesn’t mean they’ll finish the year that way any more than it means the Vikes, Lions and Bears will be rated 20th or whatever the hell they’re rated. I’m just looking forward to the actual damn games when we can all blame the refs and our own team’s mistakes for losses rather than the quality of the opponent.”
    ………………..

    Good post. You’re a REAL Viking fan aren’t you? I mean, not one of the guys pretending to be Vikings fans. I’ve shared time with folks like you at Lambeau over the last 40 years plus — and — in my history, there are no better people to share time with than REAL Vikings fans. TRUTH.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Purpleguy sometimes swings a little wild but he mostly leans towards normal. It’s possible to have a normal conversation with him… IF the lavender lunatics don’t get in the way.

    Going back to his original post:

    1. I never blame the refs. Even in the Fail Mary game, if the Packers had closed the deal on Seattle, that call never would have mattered. That’s on the Packers. On the coaches or on the players, I don’t know and I don’t care. They’re all “the Packers” and they all failed that day.

    2. I will sometimes say “the Packers beat themselves” but that’s not to say the opponent couldn’t have beaten them anyway; it’s just acknowledging that the Pack played poorly (or stupidly), especially late in a game they appeared to be winning.

    3 (a). I can absolutely credit an opponent for great play. Atlanta in this past year’s NFCCG played masterfully in all three phases and administered a straight-up beating to the Pack. They almost did the same to the Pats in the SB but Brady’s killer instinct and Belichick’s genius were enough to dig out of that hole. Nobody else comes back and wins that SB. Nobody.

    3 (b). Ties back to number 2 and brings Seattle back into the conversation. In the NFCCG boondoggle vs Seattle, The Packers didn’t lose that game all by themselves. Seattle still had to make the plays… and they made them… all of them. That game was the true embodiment of “Never give up. Play hard until the the last second ticks off the clock.” I didn’t care for the outcome but I got to watch a performance for the ages. I would imagine every Pop Warner and High School coach in the world will be using that game as a teaching tool until the end of time.

    It really isn’t that hard to look at things sanely and talk about them rationally.

  59. Why does everybody say their defense isnt good enough to win a SB in 2017.
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    What is different from 2016? Kevin King?

    They were 21st in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed last year. Since 2010, the only year they were anywhere close to being legit when they were 11th in points and yards.

    We’ve morphed back to the Sherman-era. This team will go as far as the QB carries them.

  60. tjacks7 says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:43 PM
    Fun Fact: Packers have NEVER won a game in US Bank Stadium. I don’t see any way that changes this year. I think the Packers have a decent shot at the wildcard, assuming Rodgers stays healthy, and then we all know they’ll be an easy out for someone in the playoffs. They still don’t have a defense to contend against elite teams.

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    Fun fact: The first team to score a regualr season TD in US Bank Stadium was the Packers. At the rate the stadium is going, they might be moving the Superbowl. Oh look, more “repairs” on the falling panels…

  61. The 13-time World Champion Green Bay Packers have more titles than the other top 4 teams on this list combined. And that includes the Steelers and Pats. Think of that for a moment.
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    7 before the modern-era.

    7 before you ever watched an NFL game.

    I respect and admire my teams rich history, but its a pretty hollow rallying cry as I watch the Patriots run circles around the rest of this League.

    .. probably what it felt like during the Lombardi-era. Wish I had been around for that.

  62. They only played Seattle because a ref didn’t know what a catch was. Even Rogers thought it was a catch, look at a replay of his reaction. The Packers fans thought it was a catch, the stadium went dead silent. The Cowboys were the only single team that beat the Seahawks in their stadium that season. They would have done it again if they weren’t robbed.
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    It would be nice if Boys fans would stop believing Dez’s catch (sure I agree it was a catch) was the last play of the game. What in the world makes every Dallas fan believe Green Bay would’ve just said “nice catch, let’s stop playing now.”?

  63. Hilarious comments from the Barneys, as usual.
    Since when does disagreeing with one’s opinion constitute being overly sensitive.
    Sad, bitter, jealous, and as always, misinformed.

  64. PiedPiper says:
    Jul 24, 2017 5:55 PM

    The best team in the NFL not in superbowl last year was the Raiders.
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    They couldn’t even get by the Texans in the playoffs.

    And, before you raiders fans go apoplectic, you shouldn’t need Carr to beat the Texans.

  65. they may regret letting Eddie Lacy walk..
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    That was the best move the Packers have made since hiring Ron Wolf in 1991.

    Fat Eddie should have been kicked to teh curb after training camp last year.

  66. dezertdawg says:
    Jul 25, 2017 10:55 AM
    They only played Seattle because a ref didn’t know what a catch was. Even Rogers thought it was a catch, look at a replay of his reaction. The Packers fans thought it was a catch, the stadium went dead silent. The Cowboys were the only single team that beat the Seahawks in their stadium that season. They would have done it again if they weren’t robbed.

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    The only thing the refs got wrong was the game clock. It should have been Packer’s ball with 4:30 left and not 4:00. The Cowboys had 2 timeouts, 2min warning, and about 80 yards to stop the Packers. They couldn’t do that and lost. They were not robbed of anything.

  67. Its pretty funny to see everyone bashing the Packers for making the to 3. Hey, GB made the “final four” of the NFL last season despite losing their top 2 RBs, their shut-down CB, and having their second and third string corners playing injured. Oh, and both starting OLBs were playing one-armed. Clay with a bum shoulder and Nick Perry with a club on his hand.

    All GB needs to get over the top is a little luck on the health front . . . to have a decent number of their playmakers still on the field in the post season. The offense should be very productive with the addition of 2 productive TEs who can both block and catch. With Ty Montgomery and the FB and 3 rookie RBs there’s enough guys to make a running game.

    The secondary added a top rookie CB, a veteran who knows the system and is hungry to show he can play and the injured guys are back. Even if the defense is middle of the league, that would put GB in the top 3 overall.

    Just keep up with the jealousy. It looks good on all of you.

  68. They should be #1 or 2. The Patriots may or may not have a Super Bowl hangover, and blowing a big lead in the playoffs usually ruins teams.

  69. There is NO WAY the Packers should be ranked ahead of the Steelers. The Packers have no ground game and a terrible defense, headed by a coordinator who should have been fired at least 2 years ago,

  70. Given Rogers recent inability to stay healthy for the entire season, #3 seems unlikely. Green bay puts too much on the back of the 33 year old and he is showing signs of his age in terms of less than ideal decision making and injury. He appears past is sell-buy date.

  71. The Packers are a good team, but they have big question marks. Namely, their defense and their running game. Plus it seems like every year one of their best receivers gets hurt. AR is a great QB, but as evidenced by their inability to win it all with only a strong passing game, they will not get over the hump this year.

    What they have going for them is they play in a piss poor division and have one of the best QBs in the league.

  72. UMMM….#3?? Not even close. They aren’t in the top 10. They lost 2 of their top OL. No RB. Def is in a rebuild year. Band-aiding it with rookies(Which COULD be good). Waaaaaay to many variables to put them in top 3. Not to mention their BEST OL went to upcoming Det that they will see twice. Det beats them out in the NFC North.

  73. fact check… the superbowl champion is a marketing term for world champion, when talking historical championships it ignorant to say pre-superbowl doesnt count.. other wise what stopping up from adding other qaulifiers.. so 13 time champions

    to the actual video, I think its actually the opposite, on the shoulders of Arron Rodgers Packers are actually over achieving, that keeps them from higher draft picks and keeping a mediocre head coach and DC in their position.. and yes TT should use FA to address positions of need, how do you go this off season with out even talking to a FA CB?

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