PFT preseason power rankings No. 1: New England Patriots

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Two weeks. 16 days. 31 individual snapshots of the various NFL franchises. One to go.

You already knew which team it would be after we unveiled No. 2 (hell, you probably knew who it was before we unveiled No. 32). The Patriots. Five-time Super Bowl winners. Two in the last three years. And, most importantly, the only defending champions to ever mash the gas in an effort to get even better.

Yes, the new G.O.A.T. has an improved roster on both sides of the ball as he tries to get his record-extending sixth Super Bowl win for a quarterback, which also would catch the Steelers for the most by any franchise. They’ll be the overwhelming pick to get there, and to win it. Which, of course, will only make it harder to do.

But do it they can. With an obsessive focus on the here and now, the Patriots never get flustered by the big picture or expectations or anything else that has caused many a contender to slip from contention. And while it would be foolish to hand the Lombardi to the Patriots without playing the 267 games that come before it officially happens, it’s hard to recall a preseason favorite who was more of a postseason favorite than the Patriots.

Biggest positive change: In an offseason with plenty of positive changes, perhaps the biggest addition for 2017 and beyond comes from Buffalo, where the Bills weren’t interested in keeping cornerback Stephon Gilmore — but the Pats were willing to pounce. And since the Patriots have seen Gilmore twice per year for five years, they’ve surely seen something they like. And now they have insurance against the eventual departure of Malcolm Butler, who is sticking around for one more year, and probably only one more year. However they use Gilmore, coach Bill Belichick knows everything Gilmore can and can’t do.

Biggest negative change: For a defending Super Bowl winner, there weren’t nearly as many as usual. The biggest name to leave was a guy no one ever expected to stay — tight end Martellus Bennett. Enter former Colts tight end Dwayne Allen, who potentially will help fill the role, if he’s not overwhelmed by the Patriot Way. The addition of other receivers and running backs will help, too, as the Patriots assemble perhaps the best array of offensive weapons they’ve ever had.

Coaching thermometer: 459 below Fahrenheit. Negative 253 Celsius. Absolute zero. Belichick has the job for as long as he wants it. Not even an 0-16 disaster would get him fired, not that an 0-16 disaster would ever happen to him. The real question is whether they go 16-0 for the second time in 10 years. And indeed they could.

We’d like to have a beer with . . . Belichick. Everyone who knows him swears that when he gets away from football he’s not the cold, flat, monotonous, day-to-day bad ventriloquist whose mouth moves just enough to confirm that he’s the one who’s talking and/or breathing. So let’s get him away from football and get him a beer and talk about boats or Bon Jovi or the history of the single wing or whatever tickles his fancy and gets him to act like something other than a cyborg whose only sign of humanity is the fact that he’s gaining wrinkles and losing hair.

How they could prove us wrong: It won’t take much to prove us wrong, because any deviation from wire-to-wire No. 1 seed would prove us wrong. The only potential vulnerability may be man-to-man coverage, which seemed to work (relatively speaking) when deployed by the Houston and Atlanta defenses in the postseason. The Steelers are hoping to use it more in an effort to match up better with the Patriots, who can’t be covered effectively in zone because Tom Brady can spot and dismantle any collection of defenders aimed at covering spots and not players.

109 responses to “PFT preseason power rankings No. 1: New England Patriots

  1. We are the greatest organization in professional sports history, what else can you say?
    All we are missing is an undefeated season and a 3peat,
    stay tuned!

  2. RandyinRoxbury says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:41 PM
    We are the greatest organization in professional sports history, what else can you say?
    All we are missing is an undefeated season and a 3peat,
    stay tuned!

    No you are not. That might be the Boston Celtics. And they never had to cheat. And their rules didn’t favor offense. And they didn’t whine when people played within the rules. And I think they won 11 total with the same roster. 8 in a row if I recall. You are not the greatest of anything. I wish I could have played in this era.

  3. Raiders 34 Boston Bradys 27..Mexico City, book it, guaranteed
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    Win the Super Bowl or it matters zero

  4. My #2 favorite PFT article of all time.

    #1 is the PFT pre-game article “Brady dedicates Super Bowl LI to his mother,” dated 2/5/17. The comments section alone should be printed out and placed in the Library of Congress.

  5. Cant argue Pats at #1. Defending champs and they got better. Hope we see you 2 times this year with the later in the playoffs.

  6. Exactly where they will be for the next 2 years, every single week. If you root for one of the other teams, just hold on, the 2019 season is sooner than you think, and your team will be able to compete for something other than a Participation Banner.

  7. Hint:

    With more speed and the need to NOT sub the RBs, defenses can’t play man automatically and turn their backs to the line of scrimmage.

    The lone flaw with the Pats offense, was just that, the subbing of the RBs, which sometimes tipped the play.

    Blount was a good team player, and at times, a very effective bruiser, with speed once he got going, but that last statement is the key.

    Gillislee and Burkhead may be the most important signings because of their acceleration through the line of scrimmage, as much as adding Cooks, Dwayne Allen and the return of Gronk.

    16-0 is absolutely possible, as is 19-0, not that I care as a diehard fan.

  8. RandyinRoxbury says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:41 PM
    We are the greatest organization in professional sports history, what else can you say?
    All we are missing is an undefeated season and a 3peat,
    stay tuned!
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    The Yankees, Celtics, Lakers, and Canadiens would like to remind you history is longer than 20 years.

  9. As a Patriots fan, I’d like to take a moment to thank:

    1. The Kraft family, for bringing respectability and intelligence to this team.

    2. Bill Parcells, for
    A. Making this team fun to watch again
    B. Stepping aside as HC of the Jets and elevating Bill Belichick to that position

    3. Bill Belichick, for preparing this team to be a contender year after year, making the tough choices that many of us thought were wrong but turned out to be right, and your answers to stupid questions.

    4. Tom Brady, for showing what it is to play with heart and perseverance, and most of all being the ultimate team player.

    5. Every player, coach, and employee that was part of the organization over the years. You all, in your own way, played a part in making the success of the last 16 years special to us long time Patriots fans, whether or not you actually participated in any of the last 16 seasons. Some of you we’d rather forget about, but then, those painful memories make the recent ones even sweeter.

    6. Last but not least, Patriot Hater. Thanks for the banter we enjoy on a daily basis. Once in a while it would be nice if you had some new material, but I guess some things are beyond reality.

  10. RandyinRoxbury says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:41 PM
    We are the greatest organization in professional sports history, what else can you say?
    All we are missing is an undefeated season and a 3peat,
    stay tuned!

    Nope, that distinction goes to the New York Yankees and their 27 world championships.. Nice try though.

  11. I moved away from New England as a teenager and now I’m the only person in my family who doesn’t live there. This team is my connection to New England. Those colorful October hills, those frosty December roads. I am with this team every single Sunday in the fall and even when they don’t bring home the bacon, they never let me down. They are the shining beacon of what a team and organization can be.

    DYNASTY.

  12. If Brady & Belichick reach the SB, it will be their 8th in 16yrs with Brady as active starter (i.e. not counting the 2000 or 2008 seasons). That’s 50% of all possible SBs, and 75% of all possible AFCCGs. Amazing.

  13. Pbsddoe: you do realize this poster you are responding to Randy in Roxbury is either a Jets fan of Dolphin fan , not a Pat’s fan.

    I’m a little concerned Drool hasn’t posted yet. Must be nap time @ the home.

  14. @redzen: randyinroxbury is a fakePatsfan – he’s really a Jets fan who continually posts over-the-top messages to stir up the other 31 fanbases, which is both a very sad way to live and incredibly easy to do. Just feel sorry for him.

  15. Deserved, nothing else to say. As far as NE fans get real. You have no part in this except you get to spend big money on tickets Tom Brady jerseys.

  16. pantera says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:45 PM
    Raiders 34 Boston Bradys 27..Mexico City, book it, guaranteed

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    If I were you I would be more focused on winning your first playoff game in eternity. The Patriots might drop a game or two to those teams that circled their Pats matchup and worried about that so much it hurt them in their other 15 games (see Rex Ryan) but in the end those are the teams they finish in front of. If later the Raiders are celebrating their Mexico City win while the Patriots are celebrating their 6th ring who do you think came out ahead on that really? (Hint, Raiders fans will still think its them)

  17. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:15 PM
    Pbsddoe: you do realize this poster you are responding to Randy in Roxbury is either a Jets fan of Dolphin fan , not a Pat’s fan.

    I’m a little concerned Drool hasn’t posted yet. Must be nap time @ the home.

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    IKR? Gosh I hope he’s ok.

  18. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:15 PM
    Pbsddoe: you do realize this poster you are responding to Randy in Roxbury is either a Jets fan of Dolphin fan , not a Pat’s fan.

    I’m a little concerned Drool hasn’t posted yet. Must be nap time @ the home.

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    Wasn’t going to post but I see my fans are missing me.
    Lest you forget I grew up in Mass graduating from UMASS rooted for the Bruins and was a die hard Celtic fan.

    The Yankees leave the Pat’s in the dust as the greatest. A nod would go to another non cheating team in the Celtics. So you youngsters need to research your history…do you know what it is….it’s more than just 20 years.

    Grew up a Giants fan then a Pat’s fan then a Steeler/Pat’s fan and finally a Steeler only fan. Finally because as the bandwagon got crowded the composition of the fans changed for the worse…..no respect for history or the possibility anyone other than the Pat’s could have a good anything….you the childish thing.

    So you want respect….it’s simple you earn and give it….just like life.

    Finally it’s just a game so bunched panties aren’t worth it.

  19. They won’t make the Super Bowl this year. They barely were able to sustain drives against a sad Falcons defense for 3qtrs. If the Atlanta offense could’ve sustained a drive or two the D wouldn’t have been gassed. Neither Falcons or Pats return to the big dance.

  20. orndorf2 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:45 PM
    They won’t make the Super Bowl this year. They barely were able to sustain drives against a sad Falcons defense for 3qtrs. If the Atlanta offense could’ve sustained a drive or two the D wouldn’t have been gassed. Neither Falcons or Pats return to the big dance.

    Christ! Great logic! Leys predicted how 2 teams will play this season based on 1 game from last season

    #ijuststartedwatchingfootball

  21. Can’t argue with the selection. Same as with the Broncos last season the champs are the champs until someone beats them. And in this case the champs have improved their roster. There’s a lot of football to be played before we see whether or not they can repeat with it, game on!

  22. Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:39 PM
    pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:15 PM
    Pbsddoe: you do realize this poster you are responding to Randy in Roxbury is either a Jets fan of Dolphin fan , not a Pat’s fan.

    I’m a little concerned Drool hasn’t posted yet. Must be nap time @ the home.

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    Wasn’t going to post but I see my fans are missing me.

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    We did miss you!! And glad to see you are ok. You must have just overslept after all the work you put in trolling the Pats on the orher teams articles.

    Agree with your point on the Yankees, you cant knock them. And yes the Celtics winning 11 championships in 12 years does exceed what the Patriots have done. But actually the longest winning streak in all of sports history is the New York Yacht Club in the Americas cup races from 1857 to 1983 (24 straight defenses over that time). The Patriots get credit though, their entire body of postseason results since 2001 is unparalleled in NFL history.

  23. How is it possible that Pats fans are more vocal about this than Vikings fans were when they were #1? How’s it go, “act like you’ve been there?”

  24. .
    The Patriots appear to have the best September roster. That and $1.56 can get you a small coffee. Let’s take a more realistic look at team’s rosters come December. Injuries can change everything.
    .

  25. I think RandyInRoxbury is a Browns fan. She/He is usually over the top with postings.

    That being said. It’s not an easy task to accomplish a 19-0 record. There’s always some team like the Giants that will drop you in hamper like a worn pair of underpants. “It already happened” to the Patriots.

    I see fans that are seriously overconfident which usually leads to a very disappointing outcome.

    Patriots are not winning the Super Bowl this year let alone going 19-0.

  26. I’ve never seen a team going into a season that *seems* so much better than their competition.

    I’ve seen plenty of seasons where it ended up that way (1985.. 1989.. 1998..) but all those teams had bigtime competition.

    The Patriots are hands down the class of this League.

    Right now, it looks like 31 also-rans.

  27. pantera says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:45 PM

    Raiders 34 Boston Bradys 27..Mexico City, book it, guaranteed
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    Yet another insignificant fan, of yet another insignificant team, that rests their whole season on the outcome of one game.

    That said, since “book it” was invoked, the Raiders will lose.

  28. I love that “The addition of other receivers and running backs will help, too, as the Patriots assemble perhaps the best array of offensive weapons they’ve ever had.” is part of the biggest negative change section.

    It should be a fun season.

  29. Concussion- no Pat’s fan ever talks about an undefeated season. It’s one game @ a time. Time will tell if they make it to the Super Bowl or not, but that is their goal every year. They have won 2/3 of the last 3 , & Don’t forget a missed extra point prevented them from going to all 3.
    Roger that!

  30. pantera says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:45 PM

    Raiders 34 Boston Bradys 27..Mexico City, book it, guaranteed

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    If the silly trolls really believed that they would be calling a bookie instead of constantly typing nonsense online.

  31. aj66shanghai says:
    Jul 25, 2017 6:09 PM
    How is it possible that Pats fans are more vocal about this than Vikings fans were when they were #1? How’s it go, “act like you’ve been there.

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    The current count is only 40 posts and that includes all the haters too so this has actually been the quietest one of these Power Rankings. I think what happened is you have been excited to make that comment for days now so when the time came and the Pats fans werent doing as you needed it was going to be too hard to not post it anyways.

    What made you single out Vikings fans? Yeah they were loud with their premature predictions last year but so were Raiders and Cowboys fans. Are you perchance a Vikings fan? The Vikings are still firmly stuck in that three way tie for loudest fizzle but nice try.

  32. So far the 2017 Patriots have accomplished NOTHING.

    A direct quote from their coach Bill B.

  33. Like Howard Johnson said after Gabby Johnson’s compelling speech in Blazing Saddles,” Who can argue with that?”

    Minneapolis in February doesn’t sound all that appealing but I guess it will be just another business trip for the Patriots. Who cares about 19-0? Just get another Lombardi and a ring to start the collection on the right hand.

  34. Concussion182 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 6:14 PM
    I think RandyInRoxbury is a Browns fan.
    __________________

    Of course you do. In spite of most people familiar with Pats threads knowing randy, redzwhatever, no life and concussed just to name a few are all the same obsessed troll it’s no stretch to believe that somehow your Pats hatred has unhinged you to the point you suffer from dissociative identity disorder. The most entertaining part of it is when you argue with yourself and think any of us buy it. It’s probably wrong of me to admit it but we do find your misery entertaining, please don’t seek help.

  35. ashismmichigan says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:45 PM
    Absolute zero is negative 273 (not negative 253)!!

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    Always a appreciate a man that understands science.

  36. World champions. Last 2 out of 3. Best of times.

    Oh yeah, Del Rio vs Belichick is embarrassing.
    Carry on!

  37. Uhhhh NO.

    Most of us would ‘Rather have a beer with’
    A man named Robert Gronkowski.

    Not quite into Pats nation fully are we PFT. Lets not forget the hamsters during the #deflategate era either.

  38. ….Ahh….commentawaitingdepletion. I scoped you trolling Pittsburg Posts as well as other teams which you regularly do. I know what your thinking. The Patriots are the “Mothers of all Football” you are correct.

    But what’s really on your mind is Pittsburg. “Daddy of all Football” it doesn’t matter if they won 6 titles over the course of 40 years or in 10. Point being they have 6 Lombardi trophies.

    Going forward you may refer to Pittsburg as “Daddy” if you want. Please don’t forget your evil Stepfather the Giants as well. You may call them 2Pop.

  39. Kraft is not loyal. Please. If it wasn’t for Dan Rooney telling him he has to stay put they would have been playing in Hartford which is a dump.

  40. I wish we could play the Jets, Bills and Dolphins twice a year. Never injured. Easy games. 6 of them every year.

  41. Concussion182 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 8:02 PM
    ….Ahh….commentawaitingdepletion. I scoped you trolling Pittsburg Posts as well as other teams which you regularly do.
    ______________

    Do you ever bother with facts or just make all of it up as you go along? I actually posted the Steelers deserved more respect and deserved to be further up than 4th. Through the miracle of the internet you can easily find the complete post. Here are it’s salient points:

    commentawaitingdeletion says:
    Jul 24, 2017 2:19 PM
    The Steelers offense is impressive, one of the most balanced in the league they can hurt you in a lot of ways…Pittsburgh is a much better balanced team than GB and the equal of Atlanta. It may be quibbling but this ranking is a touch low.

  42. Concussion182 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 8:02 PM

    ….Ahh….commentawaitingdepletion. I scoped you trolling Pittsburg Posts as well as other teams which you regularly do. I know what your thinking. The Patriots are the “Mothers of all Football” you are correct.

    But what’s really on your mind is Pittsburg. “Daddy of all Football” it doesn’t matter if they won 6 titles over the course of 40 years or in 10. Point being they have 6 Lombardi trophies.

    Going forward you may refer to Pittsburg as “Daddy” if you want. Please don’t forget your evil Stepfather the Giants as well. You may call them 2Pop.
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    Patriots are 10 and 3 versus steelers since Brady was drafted. (Brady missed 2008 loss). Also Pats won all 3 playoff matchups during same period.2 afc championships in pitt, too. Patriots are steelers daddy. Have a nice summer. Oh wait, you can’t. Patriots are world champions!

  43. Commentawaitingdepletion apperntly you don’t understand what you’re reading. My point being your Pittsburg envy. We don’t need any lick licks telling Daddy he’s good. It won’t get you any points

  44. pointtwopsiistheissue. Doesn’t matter my friend. It takes a team to win a Super Bowl nitwit. I never heard of an NFL team with one player.

  45. YouCryin?PatsMustBeDoingTheirJob. Thanks I’m having a great summer. I know the Patriots are 5 time world champs. Pittsburg got to say that 6 times. You won’t though.

  46. Despite the PFT humpfest with the Patriots, real football fans understand that Atlanta was the better team last season, they pissed away the SB. Yes, Tom made the plays to pull it out of the fire, but if Atlanta does their job, they win the game, period. Also, the Seahawks are also a better team. We all know that they too should have beaten the Pats in SB 51, and they did beat the Pats in Foxboro last season. Additionally, if the Broncos find a QB, you can make the Pats 4th, because the Broncos have taken up residence in Tom’s dome, as the Pats only managed 16 points and a 188 yards passing last season. Any kind of offense that day, and Denver wins easily. Easily the least impressive so-called ‘dynasty’ in NFL history. Why can’t the Pats ever dominate a Super Bowl against what have been some of the worst opponents, team-wise, in Super Bowl history. Needless to say, we don’t fear the Patriots in Broncos Country.

  47. I love all things Belichick and Brady; may they reign again in 2017-18.

    BUT, BUT – Lately I just can’t get enough about the Cowboys. I mean is Jones going to make even more of joke out of his 20+ year, ongoing disaster before the season even begins? What a fool; owns one of the most valuable sports franchises and just trashes it.

  48. AFC Championship game, Raiders up 31-28, 4th quarter Pats have the ball on the Raiders 30 with 1:30 to go, its 3rd and 6, Brady feints to pass tuck the ball and Khalil Mack tackles and recovers the fumble.
    Raiders advance to the Super Bowl, justice is done !!!

  49. But remember, last year they had Denver number 1 and Carolina number 2… so, take these rankings with a huge grain of salt.

  50. I respect the Patriot’s, they’ve had an incredible run that can’t be denied. That said, while they kill the regular season in what’s been mostly a weak division the last 10-15 years, they’ve barely won the Super Bowl a majority of their wins.

    I get it, a win is a win, but consider they had the Tuck Rule, which everyone outside of NE knew was BS. They had the Seahawks hand them a game at the goal line on a dumb play, and Atlanta that handed them a game after being up 25 points. They are as lucky as they are good. They could of, and most likely should have lost all of those games.

    So as much as I don’t care for the team, I respect them. That said, they were one errant play away from losing 3 Super Bowls. Yes, they have the best coach, and a good QB in Brady, although I hate his constant 3-5 yard passes. But what really bothers me is the NE fans that act as though this team is the best ever, and that they will destroy everyone, when you look back at he reality of the situation. They’ve had a lot of luck, and inadvertent help from other teams to help put them where they are. They ARE good, but SOME, NE fans are among the worst and most annoying fans in sports history, that overlook, and overestimate just how great their team is.

  51. Already crowned champions? Garaunteed kiss of death, they’ll lose either in the divisional or conference round.

  52. This is a fun little excercise, but titles aren’t won on paper. Fortunately for Pats fans, nobody knows that better than BB and the Patriots, he will keep them focused on the practice/game at hand.

    The addition of Cooks was designed specifically to add a guy who can consistently beat man coverage. A healthy Gronk can beat any type of coverage, and as mentioned previously, the additions of Gillislee and Burkhead will be bigger than they now appear. Injuries are part of life in the NFL, but this team is so deep they can withstand far more than most and still contend for a 6th ring. We will see how it plays out on the field, but this team looks like the best and deepest Patriot team ever.

  53. concussion is upset that the patriots are one Superbowl away from tying steelers with 6. he should be afraid.

  54. If the ravens would have beaten the jaguars and jets last year they would’ve made the playoffs.
    If denver would’ve made the playoffs last year they could’ve won back to back SBs.
    If my favorite team lost to osweiler in the playoffs,after a 14 year drought,I would be quiet right now.
    If you don’t see what the Patriots see in gilmore,look at what they saw in hogan and branch.
    If I grew up a giants fan then a Patriots fan then a Patriots/steelers fan and then a steelers fan I would not use the word bandwagon anymore.
    If you think “almost winning”a superbowl is better than almost losing a superbowl then you can use the same logic in the giants superbowl wins.
    If pittsburgh would beat the Patriots once in awhile I would call it a rivalry.

    If is a funny word if you use it right.

  55. black59razorblog says:
    Jul 25, 2017 9:51 PM
    Despite the PFT humpfest with the Patriots, real football fans understand that Atlanta was the better team last season, they pissed away the SB.

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    Yes, because the best teams are the ones that piss away championship playoff games.

    SMH

  56. We were winning,but we lost.We almost won,but we lost.We should have hoisted the trophy,but we didn’t.

    What about that is complicated?

    Oopps,my bad..did not consider the source.

    Orderly…he got out of his room again.

  57. black59razorblog says:
    Jul 25, 2017 9:51 PM
    Despite the PFT humpfest with the Patriots, real football fans understand that Atlanta was the better team last season, they pissed away the SB.

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    They had a nice year, but Pats record was better and obviously head to head they were better.

  58. So the logic of black razor is that the team that was down 28-3 with 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter & scores 31 unanswered points to win their 5th Super Bowl is not the better team?? Yup, that makes perfect sense, NOT!!

  59. I love all the”win with class” and “arrogant Patriots fans” comments.We Patriots fans just act like we have been there before,just because we have been there before.How are we supposed to act?Should we troll every article on every site?Should we scream “they cheated” everytime we lose and then gladly accept a win on a refs bad call?Should we celebrate in the streets,after a championship,and set stuff on fire?Should we beat other fans up?Should we act like we won the Superbowl when it was just a regular season game?Should we taunt fans of other teams when they lost even if our team lost?
    What I’m asking is should we act like you Patriots haters?If so..why should we…we are above you…look at this century..we own it.

  60. black59razorblog says:
    Jul 25, 2017 9:51 PM
    Despite the PFT humpfest with the Patriots, real football fans understand that Atlanta was the better team last season, they pissed away the SB. Yes, Tom made the plays to pull it out of the fire, but if Atlanta does their job, they win the game, period. Also, the Seahawks are also a better team. We all know that they too should have beaten the Pats in SB 51, and they did beat the Pats in Foxboro last season. Additionally, if the Broncos find a QB, you can make the Pats 4th, because the Broncos have taken up residence in Tom’s dome, as the Pats only managed 16 points and a 188 yards passing last season. Any kind of offense that day, and Denver wins easily. Easily the least impressive so-called ‘dynasty’ in NFL history. Why can’t the Pats ever dominate a Super Bowl against what have been some of the worst opponents, team-wise, in Super Bowl history. Needless to say, we don’t fear the Patriots in Broncos Country.

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    Agreed, lots of teams are better than the Patriots. Its just that all those wins give people the wrong impression.

  61. Anyhow, winning the PFT pre training camp power rankings feels like…uh….I dont know, I cant feel anything. And they do have that ad on TV with Belichick pulling a face then pointing out that the 2017 team hasnt done anything yet. (For the Patriots thats how they promote the team). So tied with 31 other teams it is. Going to meet my brother (who flew in from Raider territory) for the opening day of training camp tomorrow. Watch Belichick tell Brady he sucks and needs to get better. Watch Brady hang his head and promise he will. Good times.

  62. I get it, a win is a win, but consider they had the Tuck Rule, which everyone outside of NE knew was BS. They had the Seahawks hand them a game at the goal line on a dumb play, and Atlanta that handed them a game after being up 25 points. They are as lucky as they are good. They could of, and most likely should have lost all of those games.
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    You failed to mention 2 improbable catches by the giants in 2 superbowls and the fact that the pats left plaxico in man to man coverage at the goal line in one. Did the pats hand the giants the game in that one? The tuck rule was a rule, which was called correctly. The seahawks called a pass play that was defended correctly. Atlanta couldn’t sustain a drive in the 4th qtr. The giants outplayed the pats in those 2 superbowls. They were the better team on those 2 days. Why can’t non pats fans say the same about the patriots? You’re in denial and it’s glorious.

  63. A broncos fan saying the Patriots haven’t “dominated” a Superbowl and they have beaten inferior opponents is exactly what the giants,redskins,49ers and seahawks said about them…..do you even remotely know what you are posting before you post it?
    If they find a QB,didn’t they draft one?

  64. pantera says:
    Jul 25, 2017 4:45 PM

    Raiders 34 Boston Bradys 27..Mexico City, book it, guaranteed” Didn’t you make a similar statement last year as well? I distinctly remember the “book it, guaranteed”. How’d that prediction work out?

  65. I think it only makes sense that when you comment on this team you do it right and refer to them by their proper name:

    THE WORLD CHAMPION NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

  66. ron69 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 10:52 PM
    AFC Championship game, Raiders up 31-28, 4th quarter Pats have the ball on the Raiders 30 with 1:30 to go, its 3rd and 6, Brady feints to pass tuck the ball and Khalil Mack tackles and recovers the fumble.
    Raiders advance to the Super Bowl, justice is done !!!

    Fantasy is always more rewarding than reality.

  67. I’ve been a Patriots fan since deep in the dark era. I went to my first game at 10 in 1977 in the concrete jungle dump stadium. I’ve watched every game since and go to 4-5 a year. I will be happy if they win 12 games this year and make the playoffs. I know everyone is talking about them winning, going undefeated, blah, blah, blah. That’s BS. Like every other team, they will be lucky to even get to the Superbowl.

    There are too many variables in the NFL. Injuries, referees, momentum, and yep, luck. I laugh at all of the bandwagon morons who think the Patriots will win. I’d love to see it as always. That Superbowl last year gave me more than I will ever need from them.

  68. orndorf2 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 5:45 PM

    They won’t make the Super Bowl this year. They barely were able to sustain drives against a sad Falcons defense for 3qtrs. If the Atlanta offense could’ve sustained a drive or two the D wouldn’t have been gassed. Neither Falcons or Pats return to the big dance.
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    That’s exactly what happened when Seattle was in the dance with NE…they gassed out. Everybody looks to the interception as the defining moment, but Seattle lost the game in the fourth.
    Atlanta was cruising too, but they spent every nickle, and by end of 3rd, they were gassed. NE plays a steady game, and their conditioning is right up there, if not the best.

    As folks have noted, the only way to beat NE is man-to-man, but one can only sustain that so long, then teams get sloppy (see the NE receivers get open in latter part of game?). Once Brady had a soft pass rush, he picked them apart. Heck, his O-line played perfectly in 4th.

  69. drummer1279 says:
    Jul 25, 2017 11:48 PM
    I respect the Patriot’s, they’ve had an incredible run that can’t be denied. That said, while they kill the regular season in what’s been mostly a weak division the last 10-15 years, they’ve barely won the Super Bowl a majority of their wins.

    I get it, a win is a win, but consider they had the Tuck Rule, which everyone outside of NE knew was BS.

    Fortunately, everyone inside NE, and especially the referees, knew the tuck rule was the right call. Now BS, that was 1976, roughing the passer. Patriots ate enough dirt over the years to make up for any so-called “luck” they’ve had since 2001. But it was the correct call.

  70. pantera says:
    July 25, 2017 at 4:45 pm
    Raiders 34 Boston Bradys 27..Mexico City, book it, guaranteed
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    I guess you’re that confident because the Raiders have been so good for so long, right?

  71. July 25, 2017 at 5:45 pm
    They won’t make the Super Bowl this year. They barely were able to sustain drives against a sad Falcons defense for 3qtrs. If the Atlanta offense could’ve sustained a drive or two the D wouldn’t have been gassed. Neither Falcons or Pats return to the big dance.
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    OK, so let me get this straight, because they had to make the greatest comeback in Superbowl history in order to win their 5th Superbowl, after a 14-2 season, they won’t make it back to “The big dance”. Sounds like a fan of a team who has never sniffed “The big dance”.

  72. drummer1279 says:
    July 25, 2017 at 11:48 pm
    I respect the Patriot’s, they’ve had an incredible run that can’t be denied. That said, while they kill the regular season in what’s been mostly a weak division the last 10-15 years, they’ve barely won the Super Bowl a majority of their wins.
    I get it, a win is a win, but consider they had the Tuck Rule, which everyone outside of NE knew was BS. They had the Seahawks hand them a game at the goal line on a dumb play, and Atlanta that handed them a game after being up 25 points. They are as lucky as they are good. They could of, and most likely should have lost all of those games.
    So as much as I don’t care for the team, I respect them. That said, they were one errant play away from losing 3 Super Bowls. Yes, they have the best coach, and a good QB in Brady, although I hate his constant 3-5 yard passes. But what really bothers me is the NE fans that act as though this team is the best ever, and that they will destroy everyone, when you look back at he reality of the situation. They’ve had a lot of luck, and inadvertent help from other teams to help put them where they are. They ARE good, but SOME, NE fans are among the worst and most annoying fans in sports history, that overlook, and overestimate just how great their team is.

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    Blah blah. We’ve heard it all before.

    First off, from a record perspective, the Patriots beat the other divisions in the league with the same regularity that they win in their own division. The percentage is relatively equal with a slightly worse percentage against the AFC West due to their record @Denver.

    Second… If you want to talk about “lucky” then I would say the rest of the league is “lucky” that Brady doesn’t have 9 Super Bowl titles. He’s been to eleven AFC Championship games. eleven!!!!! In 2006 the Patriots had a massive lead on Indy and blew it at the end with Chicago and Rex Grossman waiting. The Patriots already beat Chicago that year and Rex imploded by not reading the playbook the week of the Super Bowl. The Patriots were probably one play away from a Super Bowl there. In 2007 we know Brady took the lead late in the game and the ball went right through Samuels hands to seal the game and then the next play was the helmet catch. That could have easily been a win. In 2011 Brady again took the lead and then between the Welker drop and the defense they couldn’t seal the deal. In 2012 the Patriots had the lead on the Ravens at the half in the AFCCG and they lost. Ravens went on to win it. In 2015 the Patriots were a play away from tying the game and they were dominating at the end of that game. Peyton had nothing left. Denver went on to win the Super Bowl.

    So I would say the league is fortunate that Brady and the Patriots didn’t pull out any of those close games or they would be so far ahead of all the other teams it would be even more maddening.

  73. RandyinRoxbury says:
    July 25, 2017 at 4:41 pm
    We are the greatest organization in professional sports history, what else can you say?
    All we are missing is an undefeated season and a 3peat,
    stay tuned!

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    The San Antonio Spurs are better than the Patriots.

    Best winning percentage in North American sports
    Best winning percentage against all other NBA teams
    Longest playoff contention streak in North American sports
    Since Duncan was drafted in 1997, they have had winning seasons every single year.
    Best franchise in North American sports according to fan engagement, winning culture, etc.

    List goes on.

    If anything, the Pats are the Spurs of the NFL. Yes, the Pats have done quite well, and respect should be accorded to them, but Spurs > Pats

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