NFL believed Tiffany Thompson more than it believed Ezekiel Elliott

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As football fans try to shift their brains back to legalese more than a year after #Deflategate ended, many are having a hard time understanding why the league could suspend Ezekiel Elliott for committing domestic violence if he was never arrested or charged.

The distinction is fairly simple. The league’s in-house justice system operates under the “preponderance of the evidence” standard. That’s a fancy way of saying, “If we believe one side a little bit more than the other, that side wins.”

In contrast, the criminal justice system requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This highest of all legal standards routinely causes prosecutors to not even waste time and money chasing a conviction that would easily be blocked by eloquence far less persuasive than “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.” Indeed, during a Friday conference call explaining the NFL’s decision, attorney Peter Harvey (a member of the four-person advisory panel who previously served as the New Jersey Attorney General) cited the high standard of proof as a reason for the failure of the prosecutor in Ohio to proceed against Elliott.

It also seems that the NFL had more complete evidence than the authorities, apparently due to a greater degree of cooperation from Tiffany Thompson, the woman who accused Elliott of multiple acts of misconduct. She produced photos that the league determined to have been taken contemporaneously with the alleged incidents, and the league also used medical experts to confirm that the photos contained images consistent with abuse resulting in injuries to her face, arms, neck, knees, hips, and shoulders.

And so the objective evidence allowed the NFL to resolve the dispute between Elliott and Thompson over whether he injured her. The fact that the league had “questions with respect to the completeness of [his] cooperation with the investigation” may have caused the league to view Elliott’s overall story a bit more dimly, even if there was no finding that he separated violated the policy by failing to cooperate.

In the end, the league needed to decide only that Thompson’s version was slightly more persuasive than Elliott’s. And it did.

78 responses to “NFL believed Tiffany Thompson more than it believed Ezekiel Elliott

  1. It’s cute that you think the “the criminal justice system requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This highest of all legal standards” when it comes to professional athletes.

  2. And that’s how it goes in Roger Goodell’s National Integrity League if you’re not one of his Super Six of the Giants, Jets, Colts, Donks, Ravens and Steelers

  3. To paraphrase something I posted elsewhere, this entire process reeks of “Ray Rice” stink. For the NFL to enforce the full six game suspension against a star player, the most valuable franchise and a great owner, there has to exist the fear of a new Rice fiasco.

  4. So did they even review the witness statement? That statement seemed very damaging to Tiffany Thompson.

  5. Once Zeke paid off Thompson, the legal system will stop pursuing. Im sure that law enforcement would’ve came up with the same evidence if there was no pay off to plantiff.

  6. harrisonhits2 says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm
    And that’s how it goes in Roger Goodell’s National Integrity League if you’re not one of his Super Six of the Giants, Jets, Colts, Donks, Ravens and Steelers

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    Yep.

    1. Ray Rice, he lied outright to cover for Bisciotti.
    2. Jets have been caught cheating numerous times and nothing has ever happened for a punishment, just very small fines for a billionaire.
    3. Gomer Manning admitted to PEDs sent to his house, which by Goodlel’s own precedent means an automatic 6 game suspension. Never happened.
    4. Colts hid Luck’s injuries, amongst a myriad of other cheating incidents through the years, with no repercussions of any kind.
    5. Mike Tomlin intentionally affected live game action and he was barely fined for it.
    6. And we know about the Giants….Mara runs the league.

  7. Too bad the Cowboys didnt believe Lucky Whitehead. Released after being falsely accused of theft. Sweet, sweet karma!

  8. Its actually more than Rice, yes what Rice did was way worse. Zeke is in trouble for multiple ting. This Domestic Violence case, pulling the down the girls shirt exposing her boobs and the speeding 100mph. Its called a habitual offender

    Greg Falco says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm
    To paraphrase something I posted elsewhere, this entire process reeks of “Ray Rice” stink. For the NFL to enforce the full six game suspension against a star player, the most valuable franchise and a great owner, there has to exist the fear of a new Rice fiasco.

  9. So during the press conference, one of the advisores admitted that Thompson attempted to have one of her friends lie to police about what happened–how does that not hurt the accusers credibility?At no point did Elliot lie or conceal evidence but yet he is not credible? Kangaroo court about to be taken to big boy court.

  10. So he only gets 2 more games than Tom Brady, who received a 4-game suspension because he may or may not have known about some deflated football? Now Elliott gets 6 games because of a bunch of he said/she said bs?

    The NFL is seriously screwed (and I hate the patriots).

  11. Greg Falco says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    To paraphrase something I posted elsewhere, this entire process reeks of “Ray Rice” stink. For the NFL to enforce the full six game suspension against a star player, the most valuable franchise and a great owner, there has to exist the fear of a new Rice fiasco.

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    Most valuable franchise you have right.
    Great owner not even close he’s a rich slimeball who has drafted and or brought in the most suspended players in the last few years. Jerry also hiring hookers or getting caught with hookers stands up for all that is ” great “.

    Greg Falco I salute you today for the post of the day. It was a ” GREAT ” post.

  12. Or perhaps the photos were more convincible then Zeke? He beat her more then once. He’s a crumb like his teammate who beats his mom.

  13. 6 games is appropriate. Anymore bruises start showing up on women connected to Elliott…lifetime suspension.

    The privilege of entertaining us is just that…a privilege. Don’t forget who butters the bread.

    Signed,
    NFL fans

  14. I have to say that in a trial where one witness is guilty of witness tampering and the evidence indicates the tampering wasto cause to commit
    perjury it is likely a Judge could direct a verdict to dismiss the charges. Witness tampering is a very
    serious offense. Perjury is also a serous offense. To me it seems as if any NFL football player who is accused of domestic violence will
    have the burden of refuting the evidence. It seems as if there is a tie the NFL will side with the alleged victim to be safe.
    In a sense the NFL’s stadard is to suspend ” or we use an abundance of caution ” as the stadard.
    What now exists is the ” ray Rice standard. We as the NFL will avoid even the possibility of being wrong…
    So we will suspend.

  15. It seems that if there were enough evidence to prove he intentionally hurt her, some of it would have leaked by now–has there ever been a case where it did not? I have no doubt she was injured, but I don’t see proof he did it. If the league is really going to have the standard of “who is more believable” then expect more of this. Also, expect this to be fought tenaciously by Elliott and the Cowboys. Don’t call the guy a beater if you dont know what happened–none of us do.

  16. jrquiz says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:49 pm
    6 games is appropriate. Anymore bruises start showing up on women connected to Elliott…lifetime suspension.

    The privilege of entertaining us is just that…a privilege. Don’t forget who butters the bread.

    Signed,
    NFL fans

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    Yeah you’re right you butter their bread. Nevermind the lack of evidence, you know the ones that she had to try and get friends to lie for her…….Nah just suspend and ask questions later. Extortion doesn’t really exist does it?

  17. richndc says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:51 pm
    It seems that if there were enough evidence to prove he intentionally hurt her, some of it would have leaked by now–has there ever been a case where it did not? I have no doubt she was injured, but I don’t see proof he did it.

    If you really need proof, then look up the photos. Not real hard for a Cowboy fan like you to do is it?

  18. So you get suspended 4 games for making a mockery of the NFL rulebook and destroying evidence that would have most likely proven your guilt. But you get suspended for 6 games for acting immature (driving fast, pulling a females top down in public), and being accused but never charged with domestic violence? Says a lot about what Roger Godell’s vision of tarnishing the shield is. I despise the Cowboys and feel this punishment is out of whack.

  19. Thats pretty surprising considering her own friend signed sworn testimony that she asked her to lie about what happened. If I was zeke I’d sue that crazy chick for 6 missed game checks. Domestic abuse is horrible, disgusting that people will lie about it to hurt others.

  20. Ok im not a Cowboys fan and completely unbiased. But the fact is, rich millionaires get off on things (legally speaking) all the time by throwing money at a situation. Doesnt meant they didnt do it. I am 100% ok with the whole “reasonable doubt” and punishing players for things we know happened. If O.J. Simpson was in the NFL during his crime should he not have gotten punished b/c he was found innocent? Absolutely not. Brady did was he did, it wasnt the cold weather, he did it. Ezekiel has multiple issues now, its not a coincidence, he did it. Big Ben wasnt found guilty, but twice being accused of the same thing, come on, the dude did something wrong. Im tired of this “unless we see a smoking gunn then we cant do anything” nonsense.

  21. And why is it necessary for the NFL to have a different standard of proof? Was there some outrage directed at the NFL over this incident that actually hurt “the shield”? Doesn’t seem like it to me based on last year’s attendance & financial results.

    It’s one thing to interfere with a team and with a person’s ability to get paid if the criminal justice system at least charges him with a crime. When that minimal bar isn’t reached, what the hell is the NFL doing?

  22. flavordave

    You are aware that those injuries were caused by a fight she had with another women. Takes 5 seconds to google her and see that her own friends testified against her. She was hurt he was going to leave her on the cusp of making millions.

  23. So you get suspended 4 games for making a mockery of the NFL rulebook and destroying evidence that would have most likely proven your guilt. But you get suspended for 6 games for acting immature (driving fast, pulling a females top down in public), and being accused but never charged with domestic violence? Says a lot about what Roger Godell’s vision of tarnishing the shield is. I despise the Cowboys and feel this punishment is out of whack.

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    But, you don’t feel Goodell lying to you and framing the Pats in 2007 or 2015 is as offensive, huh? Why is that?

    The Pats have had draft picks stolen and distractions created by framejobs, lying and corruption at the top levels of the NFL for parity purposes, ego, jealousy, and for hose teams involved to try to catch up their level.

    Goodell has committed consumer fraud, but somehow you don’t care about that, but are offended some half baked Millennial, entitled toad is running amuck off the field to start his career, with some kind of a punishment to offset his transgressions?

    You should be offended that Goodell can’t be trusted, has lied inside federal courts on at least 3 occasions, and has compromised the integrity of the position of commissioner, as ratings continue to drop.

    THAT is what you need to care about here, as the NFL customer.

  24. Footballfanz says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Ok im not a Cowboys fan and completely unbiased. But the fact is, rich millionaires get off on things (legally speaking) all the time by throwing money at a situation. Doesnt meant they didnt do it. I am 100% ok with the whole “reasonable doubt” and punishing players for things we know happened. If O.J. Simpson was in the NFL during his crime should he not have gotten punished b/c he was found innocent? Absolutely not. Brady did was he did, it wasnt the cold weather, he did it. Ezekiel has multiple issues now, its not a coincidence, he did it. Big Ben wasnt found guilty, but twice being accused of the same thing, come on, the dude did something wrong. Im tired of this “unless we see a smoking gunn then we cant do anything” nonsense.

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    Um, what exactly did Brady do?

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

  25. What does it say about her that she cooperated more with the NFL than the police? It says she wants him to be gainfully employed… and for her to get a piece of that action.

  26. So you get suspended 4 games for making a mockery of the NFL rulebook

    Just because someone has more reading comprehension than another does not constitute a mockery. Brady was spot on, read the book. Stop punishing creativity and ingenuity. Or are we actually working on dumbing down everyone?

    Or perhaps this mockery can be explained?

  27. Elliott can go around and do whatever he wants. He’s just having a good old time. But when he continuously demonstrates that he’s willing to push the envelope a little, he’s not going to get the benefit of the doubt every time. It’s a good lesson for him. It’s only costing him, and his team a few games. Hopefully this wakes him up before he does something that costs him his life or his freedom. The Cowboys will probably go undefeated while he’s gone. That might shrink his head a little.

  28. “Once Zeke paid off Thompson, the legal system will stop pursuing”.

    Incorrect. If Elliott had “paid off” Thompson the settlement would have included a confidentiality/non-disclosure agreement. She would not be providing any information to the NFL, as she obviously did.

  29. Haven’t multiple witness statements said the chick was in a fight with another girl?

    So pictures she provides showing cuts and bruises shouldn’t carry much weight.

    Especially when you consider her own friend says she lied and Zeke didn’t do anything.

    I hate the Cowboys but this is ridiculous.

  30. Footballfanz says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Ok im not a Cowboys fan and completely unbiased. But the fact is, rich millionaires get off on things (legally speaking) all the time by throwing money at a situation. Doesnt meant they didnt do it.

    Really, stanford. Belfort, Milken and Madoff didn’t go to jail?

    Just as wrong and bad as saying ” all those _______ people”. You can fill in the blank with whomever against you’re prejudiced .

  31. This is what “woman’s rights” have morphed into. She didn’t like getting dumped so she falsely accused the soon to be millionaire of assaulting her.

    Her lies mean nothing. The damage is done.

  32. “Big Ben wasn’t found guilty, but twice being accused of the same thing, come on, the dude did something wrong”.

    Really? So two accusations equal guilt in your mind? Please don’t serve on any juries.

  33. And why is it necessary for the NFL to have a different standard of proof? Was there some outrage directed at the NFL over this incident that actually hurt “the shield”? Doesn’t seem like it to me based on last year’s attendance & financial results.

    It’s one thing to interfere both with a team and with a person’s ability to get paid if the criminal justice system at least charges him with a crime. When that minimal bar isn’t reached, what the hell is the NFL doing? If the alleged victim can’t convince a prosecutor to bring a case to a jury or even to convince the cops to charge the alleged perp, then what harm comes to the alleged perp’s employer?

  34. Lemmy Aksyadis says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    Im prejudiced against rich people? are u nuts? And no they dont get off for EVERYTHING, but yes, a LOT of things they get off on with their legal teams and throwing money at victims to drop it. How many times we hear there was a settlement and the victim isnt pressing charges? If you rip ppl off for millions and billions of dollars, ur prob screwed, if you assault someone, u pay them and dont see any legal action. Saying its prejudice of me to say that is ridiculous b/c it happens A LOT.

  35. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Not legally guilt, but as an employer, i would absolutely punish that person for putting themselves in those situations over and over. Both times the victims were paid a certain amt and charges dropped. You can dig ur head in the sand and say Big Ben paid them for no reason, but he did it to avoid legal issues- and thats ok b/c thats how things work. But its nice to see an employer say “yea, just b/c u paid them off doesnt mean we are letting it go”.

  36. Jerry is like one of those enabling parents who blames everyone but their own kid for the trouble the kid’s in. Want to avoid getting suspended over domestic violence? Don’t be a punk. It really isn’t that hard.

  37. You’re all missing the point.

    In today’s “guilty till proven innocent” (if you’re male) SJW/PC/MSM lynch him environment, it isn’t worth the effort for the NFL to say “We don’t know”.

    The mere allegation leads to “guilty” in many people’s minds and NOTHING said will change their opinion.

    So the NFL makes the smart BUSINESS decision to avoid the bruhaha and move on.

    You don’t like, stop putting people in office who support the SJW/PC culture and we may get back to logic and evidence being paramount instead of “feelings”.

  38. I’m still trying to figure out how a Giants player (Josh Brown) can beat his wife on multiple occasions, get arrested and charged and only get a 1 game suspension. Yet Elliott was never arrested, never charged and there is real evidence the accuser lied about the whole thing and he gets 6 games????? Since the league reduced Josh Brown’s suspension from 6 to 1 games…..I look forward to the NFL being consistent and doing the same for Elliott. (yes, that is sarcasm)

  39. While I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with the decision, why is it so hard to understand that an employer can have their own rules for employee conduct? It doesn’t have to meet judicial standards. Could happen in any job setting. I could get fired or suspended tomorrow if I do something against the contract I signed and it might not even be a criminal act.

  40. Footballfanz says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Ok im not a Cowboys fan and completely unbiased. But the fact is, rich millionaires get off on things (legally speaking) all the time by throwing money at a situation. Doesnt meant they didnt do it. I am 100% ok with the whole “reasonable doubt” and punishing players for things we know happened. If O.J. Simpson was in the NFL during his crime should he not have gotten punished b/c he was found innocent? Absolutely not. Brady did was he did, it wasnt the cold weather, he did it. Ezekiel has multiple issues now, its not a coincidence, he did it. Big Ben wasnt found guilty, but twice being accused of the same thing, come on, the dude did something wrong. Im tired of this “unless we see a smoking gunn then we cant do anything” nonsense.

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    You can’t invoke OJ Simpson. That was the trial of the century and you have the benefit of knowing every detail of the case.

    The truth is in cases like Suggs and Lewis and others, you have no idea what they did or didn’t do. There needs to still be some kind of burden of proof that a player broke the personal conduct policy. If they did they did. The league should be able to suspend without a criminal conviction. However, do they have to run their own investigation like they are a government agency? They are just a company.

  41. There is something we call ‘Police Intuition’.

    What it means is, based on experience you KNOW the guy did it, he gets arrested (or not) but the case never gets prosecuted. The panel was made up of people with experience in knowing when someone did something vs that person being prosecuted for it.

    We have a very high level in this country. Not too many things worse than being jailed innocently. So Elliott walks on the charges. That part about a friend getting to lie could have led to reasonable doubt. Doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

    Elliott has shown some serious signs of immaturity or lack of judgement etc. Some get it from the get go, some take time to get it and some never do.

    We shall see.

  42. Medical experts were looking at pictures to determine if it was abuse ? Are they kidding me ? Have they heard of “doctored” photos, I have an adobe program where I can make pictures look like anything I want. Where is the statement from the actual Health Care provider that treated her bruises ? Or did she not go to a doctor ? Way too many holes in this whole thing and the NFL may end up looking bad for too harsh of a punishment. Plus, it won’t go over well with the NFLPA, when players claim their innocence, but side with the accuser in these instances.

  43. gbatap says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    It’s cute that you think the “the criminal justice system requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt. This highest of all legal standards” when it comes to professional athletes.
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    seriously. look at OJ.

  44. doctoraud

    I think we all get that. The issue is he getting suspended for something he probably didnt do. The evidence is pretty weak, hence no trial. Her story of some events have been contradicted by her own friends. It would be like if I told your boss you punched me once and showed a picture of me with a bruise…should you be fired? Even though you didnt do it.

  45. What about Clevelands 2017 Draft Pick, Joe Mixon? The video is still out there if you need the evidence. Its sad that this guy is wearing an NFL uniform at all……

  46. Greg Falco says:
    August 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm
    To paraphrase something I posted elsewhere, this entire process reeks of “Ray Rice” stink. For the NFL to enforce the full six game suspension against a star player, the most valuable franchise and a great owner, there has to exist the fear of a new Rice fiasco.

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    Uh, have you ever considered that Elliott was guilty as charged?
    And who’s the great owner you are referring to? You mean the one who shamefully fired the great Tom Landry on a golf course? Or the one who was pictured on the internet groping a young woman? Or the one who fired Jimmy Johnson after Johnson built a dynasty for him? Or the one who hired former crooked college coach Barry Switzer who sat back and did nothing and won a title with Johnson’s players? Or the one who hasn’t won a title since Johnson’s players retired? Or the one who keeps on hiring and defending bad guys? Or the who wanted to end revenue sharing which would have killed the small market teams like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, and Kansas City?
    Is that the “great owner” you are referring to? Jones bought his way into the Hall Of Fame so I guess that makes him a great owner in your eyes.

  47. “The fact that the league had “questions with respect to the completeness of [his] cooperation with the investigation” may have caused the league to view Elliott’s overall story a bit more dimly”

    Brett Favre withheld his phone and stonewalled when the investigation was about sexting and therefore directly involved his phone, all he got was a $50k fine. In Ted Wells’ own words “Brady cooperated fully” but got hammered in part for destroying his phone after the fact, a red herring the idiots all chased while ignoring the lies in Goodell’s arbitration finding and “no evidence.” Elliot may not have cooperated in his own lynching to the league’s satisfaction and got six games but Rice and Brown each got 1 game when they were both blatantly guilty as sin. I can’t speak to Ms Thompson’s credibility vs Elliott’s and neither can anyone else here but we are all morethan familiar with the league’s lack of it. Not only is the legal system saddled with a greater burden of proof but trials are transparent, 345 Park Ave is anything but.

  48. @nyneal
    “Uh, have you ever considered that Elliott was guilty as charged?”
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    Based upon what evidence? Photos?, ok, try this experiment…the next time you get a growth
    on your skin, get a really good picture of it and send it to your doctor so that he/she can diagnose what
    the growth is. If your doctor can make an accurate diagnosis based on the photo alone, that would be medical history.

  49. So according to footballfanz”Brady did was he did, it wasnt cold weather, he did it”. Seriously??, so how did he deflate the Colt’s footballs? Did you sleep through 7th grade science class or maybe not even have it yet. Pathetic!

  50. What responsible adult among us would actually follow through with pulling down some random woman’s blouse in public, exposing her bare breasts, and still be gainfully employed and not incarcerated the next day?

  51. “And why is it necessary for the NFL to have a different standard of proof?

    Because under our legal system, the higher standard of proof applies only for criminal punishment; incarceration or the death penalty. The lower standard of proof applies for civil cases (like the civil case in which O.J. was found to have killed Nicole) that affect your financial well-being if you lose, but don’t send you to jail. The NFL suspension is not part of the criminal courts, thus the lower standard of proof.

  52. “Not legally guilty, but as an employer I would absolutely punish that person for putting themselves in that situation over and over. Both times the victims were paid a certain amt and charges were dropped “.

    So you now have two instances where you would punish a person based on no tangible evidence: 1) two accusations; and 2) putting themselves in a situation (whatever that means) to be accused. Again, you’d be a prosecutor’s dream juror. “The defendant put himself in a situation to be accused twice? Guilty! No need to present any evidence!”.

    Also, as pointed out above, you have zero personal knowledge of whether Big Ben paid anyone, as well as zero knowledge of what actually happened. All you have are guesses based on media coverage.

  53. nyneal- “Uh, have you ever considered that Elliott was guilty as charged”?

    Apparently you’ve never considered that he isn’t. What information are you privy to that he is?

    Quite making accusations based on ill-informed opinion or supposition. Go back to talking about your father, grandfather, or whoever it was in World War II. Those ramblings are pathetic, but at least they are not baseless accusations against people who you don’t know.

  54. The NFL suspending players for he-said/she-said incidents where no legal fault has been found – and the shifting NFL emphasis toward stiffer punishment for first-time offenses of all kinds – clearly shows that the “integrity” the league cares about extends as far as PR and no further.

  55. tylawspick6 says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:03 pm
    Footballfanz says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:00 pm
    Ok im not a Cowboys fan and completely unbiased. But the fact is, rich millionaires get off on things (legally speaking) all the time by throwing money at a situation. Doesnt meant they didnt do it. I am 100% ok with the whole “reasonable doubt” and punishing players for things we know happened. If O.J. Simpson was in the NFL during his crime should he not have gotten punished b/c he was found innocent? Absolutely not. Brady did was he did, it wasnt the cold weather, he did it. Ezekiel has multiple issues now, its not a coincidence, he did it. Big Ben wasnt found guilty, but twice being accused of the same thing, come on, the dude did something wrong. Im tired of this “unless we see a smoking gunn then we cant do anything” nonsense.

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    Um, what exactly did Brady do?

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy, too?

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    What did he do? Apparently he ordered some guy to remove exactly 0.2PSI of air from 12 footballs in 90 seconds. 0.2PSI precisely because he is so good that he can tell the difference in pressure down to 0.2PSI. The real question is why was Andrew Luck not also suspended? After all, his footballs were found under inflated as well…

  56. weeteblog says:
    August 11, 2017 at 3:42 pm
    I’m still trying to figure out how a Giants player (Josh Brown) can beat his wife on multiple occasions, get arrested and charged and only get a 1 game suspension. Yet Elliott was never arrested, never charged and there is real evidence the accuser lied about the whole thing and he gets 6 games????? Since the league reduced Josh Brown’s suspension from 6 to 1 games…..I look forward to the NFL being consistent and doing the same for Elliott. (yes, that is sarcasm)
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    I suspect the answer has something to do with video/pictures and how the public/internet can believe almost anything. He said/she said can be forgotten over time while he said/she said with graphic images tend to be remembered. The NFL is simply hedging their bets.

    I believe the NFL has no clue about how to properly manage discipline but they are doing a slightly better job than any of the posters complaining based solely on their feelings. No business uses the legal standard when handling disciplinary matters. They establish their own policies. Those policies are not only known to the players but the players expressly agreed to them by signing the CBA. There is a better way to go about it but I imagine most businesses would taken some sort of action against an employee under the same conditions.

  57. “The NFL suspension is not part of the criminal courts, thus the lower standard of proof.”

    The NFL is not part of ANY court system. The alleged victim has the option to sue Elliott in civil court and take advantage of the lower burden of proof. That’s not what’s going on here. Elliott has not been found guilty of any crime, or even charged. He has not been found liable in civil court (I’m not sure he’s even been sued). An employer has unilaterally decided to impose discipline on an employee for alleged actions against a non-employee that no part of our legal system, criminal or civil, has determined he’s at fault.

    Imagine your boss deducts a month’s pay because your next door neighbor complains to him that you play your stereo too loudly.

  58. I am never going to condone or accept domestic violence but there is so much evidence that this girl is lying. If I felt for a second that he was guilty I would be fine with the suspension but I don’t believe that to be the case here. Even the Franklin County Prosecutor refused to press charges because they believed she was lying. The texts, affidavits, and police reports all add up to her trying to frame him. As for the bruises, she was seen fighting at a bar with another woman by the bar manager and the police, less than an hour before she called the police on Elliot. This woman is jilted and emotionally unstable. She thought hooking up with Elliot was her path to NFL WAG and when it didn’t she went apesh*t.

    The NFL is over compensating in an effort to protect its stated interest of bringing in more female fans. They will do ANYTHING to avoid another DV PR issue and if they have to ignore reality to make a statement they will. This, and the commissioners office unilateral control over discipline and you have a mess.

    We will hear more from Tiffany Thompson. She will be in another incident with a woman in a bar, or get arrested for DUI or accuse someone else of something that she cannot prove.

  59. “Imagine your boss deducts a month’s pay because your next door neighbor complains to him that you play your stereo too loudly.”

    If this reflected poorly on your employer and your employer thought it could hurt the bottom line, then yeah, your employer is well within their rights to suspend or fire you. As is the case here.

  60. I don’t know why everybody is so shocked that he pulled a women’s shirt down when he pulls his shirt off or up every chance he gets to show his physique. He thinks he’s gods gift to women so he doesn’t care if he has to slap a woman around to prove it. I think he has a problem controlling himself, and he thinks since he a star he can just do any ole thing like all professional athletes think. These players are enabled from high school and don’t know right from wrong or think they can get away with all things. Sad. I for one am glad he got suspended even though the justice system didn’t see fit to charge him because he’s an arrogant child just like most pro players.

  61. Has anyone actually considered that by suspending Elliott, the “victim” may be satisfied that he has been punished enough and therefore will not take further action? We all know how civil cases need much lower proof of guilt or intent, and assuming this is the end of this case, then Elliott may consider that this in itself is a best case scenario. Had a civil case been brought and if Elliott even received a slap on the wrist fine, then the NFL could have pressured to take much firmer action.

    Here’s hoping that Elliott gets his suspension reduced upon appeal to a maximum of four games. However, if Elliott doesn’t appeal, then I’m not sure you can read into that any other way.

  62. I believe her over him too. Used to live in Columbus for years, and still have friends among the OSU faculty and student pop. Elliott and his group were disciplined “under the table” so to speak on numerous occasions. He has no believe-ability.

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