Jim Brown: Colin Kaepernick needs to choose between being activist or football player

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Jim Brown was both an activist and a great football player. But he doesn’t think Colin Kaepernick can be.

Brown told ThePostGame.com that he thinks Kaepernick has to make a choice between the two, and Brown seems to think Kaepernick has not chosen wisely.

“Colin has to make up his mind, whether he’s truly an activist, or whether he’s a football player,” Brown said. “If you try to be both in a situation, football is commercial, you have owners, you have fans, and you want to honor that if you’re making that kind of money. If you have a cause, I think you should organize it, present it in a manner where it’s not only you standing on one knee, but a lot of people that are going to get behind each other and do something about it. I ask you one question: Who is Colin calling on to follow what he’s talking about? So many of us have always done it, and we’re here to help anyone that wants to do it, but I would advise the young man, if you’re a football player, play football. If you’re going to be a real activist, use your money, use your notoriety.”

Those comments were a bit hard to follow, and when he says that Kaepernick needs to “use your money, use your notoriety” he seems unaware that Kaepernick has spent a lot of money and a lot of time this year promoting causes he believes in.

Brown also indicated that he thinks it’s reasonable for NFL owners not to want Kaepernick on their teams after his national anthem protest last year.

“If I sign for money, then these people I sign with, they have rules and regulations,” Brown said. “I’m an American. I don’t desecrate my flag and my national anthem. I’m not going to do anything against the flag and the national anthem.”

Kaepernick did not, of course, desecrate the American flag. He knelt in a silent protest during the anthem. Several other players joined him and have managed to keep their jobs in the NFL. There’s no reason Kaepernick couldn’t both engage in protests and play in the NFL. It’s odd that Brown, of all people, thinks the two are mutually exclusive.

93 responses to “Jim Brown: Colin Kaepernick needs to choose between being activist or football player

  1. My Packers should sign Kap. We need a good back up QB. Aaron doesn’t like to practice, he thinks he’s too good for practice.

  2. The NFL is doing Colin Kaepernick and the world a favor. His heart is obviously more with social justice issues than with playing football. Having a football career would put a hold on the important impact he could make in the social justice field — that’s real life and not a game. I, for one, hope his full time devotion to his cause brings about the change he so desperately feels is needed.

  3. Well, maybe because when Brown was playing there wasn’t the 24 non stop media surrounding the NFL like there is now.

    And I have said it over and over, any credibility CK had regarding his kneeling being only to draw attention to police brutality and not being against police as a whole went out the window when he wore pig socks.

  4. It’s really not “odd” at all that expectations exist for employees, including pro athletes. The fact that activists such as Jim Brown and Ray Lewis both encourage Kaepernick to knock it off and play football really does demonstrate the reality that it’s a discriminatory position to have a problem with Kaepernick’s protests and distractions, but a common sense one which seems to be beyond the reach of the faculties of certain sjw’s and journalists. There are always exceptions to any rule of course, but never for people who suck at their position.

  5. Other players aren’t denouncing the USA in one breath and praising Fidel Castro with their next breath. Other players aren’t wearing pig socks with a policeman’s cap and whistle. Nor have they had.

    Player’s protesting during the National Anthem are doing their cause a disservice. People are talking more about the protest than they are talking about the cause for the protest.

  6. People who opt out of a brief unifying moment like the national anthem should not be surprised when others decide they don’t merit another chance. Kaepernick quit on being an American just like how he quit on his contract, his fans, the Niners, and even other activists. Quitter.

  7. Brown has it right. If I am an owner and I am paying a player 10-15 million per year. I want his efforts on making his game better to be the focus. It is clear whether you look at stats, game film, or talk to players he played with that his focus is not playing football. You don’t invest that sort of money into something that won’t make you money in return. That is dumb business.

  8. nenlain says:
    August 25, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    If you can’t follow what the hell is going on, Jim, maybe shut the hell up.

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    Oh — so Jim Brown doesn’t have the same “right” as Colin Kaepernick to voice his opinion, is that the way it is??? In fact, Brown has every right and CK has no right because CK did it while he was at his place of employment.
    Brown is not only right about Kaepernick, he’s also right about not doing anything to disrespect the Anthem and the flag.
    Jim Brown has done many things wrong in his life, but he’s also done many good things. He went into inner cities and met with gang leaders to get them to stop killing one another. He walked the talk and his credibility on civil rights is way higher than CK’s will ever be.
    Plus, Jim Brown is the greatest RB in NFL history while CK is not even on the radar of best QB’s.

  9. “Colin has to make up his mind, whether he’s truly an activist, or whether he’s a football player”…Jim you said it all…now be prepared for the Antifa/SJW wrath.

  10. Does anyone know what protesters are even protesting about anymore? I don’t. In my day to day life, in a city no less, everyone gets along. Everyone I deal with is gracious with
    each other. All races and all types of people. Someday, we’ll all have something serious to worry about. I suggest let’s all brace for that and forget trashing the best country
    they’ll ever see.

  11. Jim Brown was a great player and is a great American. Back in the late 60’s / early 70`s he had his AmerICan program and would bring LA gang leaders to his home to provide mentorship and guidance. This was back in the Watts riots period when activism was sorely needed. Much respect.

    Kap has good intentions / message but needs to modify his methods if he gets the chance. His unfortunate position is while he can control his activist activities, he now cannot control his NFL destiny.

  12. I don’t see what’s hard to follow.

    Brown has a really good point about with the salaries being paid that you don’t need to be “protesting” when you’re on the job.

    Kap wanted to take advantage of his job to express his political views and I don’t understand why folks don’t understand that that is a fair thing to take into account on hiring him.

  13. And Kap is going to find out that being a social justice warrior pays slightly less than the NFL quarterback gig did.

  14. Solution: Take a knee with your hand over your heart. Still respects the flag & National Anthem but raises awareness.

  15. To any highly paid star (be it sports, films, music, etc) who thinks protesting at work is a good idea – think again. Some might agree with you and some might not, but far more (not least your employers and sponsors, but also the majority of paying members of the public) will just be massively annoyed that you are hijacking their little bit of entertainment and escapism that they paid good time and money for, all to shove something in their face that they were just trying to get away from for a few hours. Feel free to protest in your own time (your celebrity status would still ensure attention), but bringing politics into the sports arena is very unsporting.

  16. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 25, 2017 at 3:49 pm
    Jim Brown has been a civil rights activist for a long time. The same people who hate Kaepernick have also always hated Brown, until now. Interesting.

    *Because some of us act like adults and can agree and disagree with people based on their current presented beliefs. I do not disagree with someone just because they are called a civil rights activist. I hear their words and I either agree or disagree. In this case, I agree with Jim Brown. I disagree with Pig socks and positive promotion of Castro. Interesting indeed.

  17. If you feel strong enough about a matter that you are willing to take a stand then good for you even if it is misguided. I support the right to express an opinion. On the other hand, if you feel so strongly that you are willing to insult millions of people then you should be ready to suffer for your opinion. IF you are not then you really didn’t believe it in the first place. I have no sympathy.

  18. People forget that Kap turned down the Broncos for 9million a year . That was right after they one the Superbowl … That would of been the perfect place for him to go , as the teams Defense could of carried almost anyone at QB postion. But Kap felt he was worth more then all the owners in NFL . He did not look at the big picture , only what was right in front of him…. So yest he would of made 3 million less for that year …. But he would be making 9 million more then he is right now .

  19. Here’s a statement that unfortunately people will thumbs down, and not out of anti-Kap feelings:

    You want him back in the league?

    Put Chip Kelly back in the league.

    Maybe that’s what the Kap people should be making a movement toward; a rebuilding team next year.

  20. “It’s odd that Brown, of all people, thinks the two are mutually exclusive.”

    Why? Was Brown a social activist during his playing days, or did he wait until after his football career was over? I don’t know the answer, but if it’s the latter then there’s nothing odd about Brown’s viewpoint at all.

  21. It’s time to leave all teams in the locker room until after The National Anthem. They are a distraction from what is to be a patriotic time to honor and STAND for those that have given their lives for this Great Country. If they don’t understand that, then they can kneel in the locker room.

  22. A question for Kaepernick supporters,Shouldn’t Kaepernick be 100% all in as a QB on game day or should it be about 90% all in 10% activism? How is that being a leader of a football team of elite warriors out there all in 100%?? And How is any of that not understandable why he is not on a team???

  23. Those comments were a bit hard to follow, and when he says that Kaepernick needs to “use your money, use your notoriety” he seems unaware that Kaepernick has spent a lot of money and a lot of time this year promoting causes he believes in.

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    I honestly haven’t hear of this. As far as I am concern when the 49ers were winning and Kaepernick was Kaepernicking (kissing his arm), he could care less about inequality in America. All of a sudden, once he was benched he discovered that there is inequality, what are the odds of that?

  24. The same people that think colin is a great qb probably think Arian Foster should go into the HoF. Colins success had everything to do with his coach (harbaugh), but he isnt gonna help a team now, hes gonna cause some kind of riot , which wont be helping the team

  25. Hard to argue with his point. All the players that want to be social justice warriors should forgo the obscene amount of money they make & protest full time.

  26. “I do not disagree with someone just because they are called a civil rights activist. I hear their words and either agree or disagree…Interesting indeed.

    Interesting indeed right back at you. Please, tell us how many times you have agreed with a any statement, by anyone, supporting minority civil rights. Just one example.

  27. I’m having a hard time following Brown. Pretty much everything out of his mouth has to do with perceived racism and how he’s been wronged. This guy is a woman beating criminal with an agenda. I wish he would go away. Signed, a Browns fan

  28. Agreed. His activist girlfriend (who isn’t even black) influenced him. Hope she makes enough money at Hot97 for the both of them.

  29. I think Jim Brown nails it. Colin Kaepernick is a middle of the road quarterback and the attention and media scrutiny that will follow him will become a distraction to the team. I think it mirrors the same with Tim Tebow to a degree. Tebow is better than the majority of 2nd and 3rd string QB’s in the league, but the attention and distraction he brings isn’t worth having him on the team. I think the same is true for Kap…

  30. To have to watch these spoiled rich dudes “protest” the National Anthem of the country that gave them the opportunity to become millionaires is just disgusting. This would be akin to walking into a shoe store to buy some shoes and have to watch the employees walk around with their fists raised in “protest” of this or that. Silly and completely worthless. These dudes are professional athletes. This is their JOB. Please name me another industry that allows its employees to protest stuff on company time. Silly and stupid.

  31. Jim Brown can have several seats.

    In 1968 Jim Brown tossed his girlfriend off of a balcony. Charged w/ assault & battery & intent to murder.

    In 1985 Jim Brown was charged with raping a woman.

    In 1986 Jim Brown was charged with assaulting his live in girlfriend.

    In 1999 Jim Brown was charged with threatening a woman with violence.

    In 2000 Jim Brown is sentenced to jail for not attending domestic violence counseling

  32. Wow Jim just shot holes in all those homeless in New York holding their fist up in front of NFL office.

  33. collectordude – “Jim Brown know[s] what he’s talking about”.

    Did you think Brown knew what he was talking about the many times he has denounced bigotry and prejudice against African-Americans? Of course you didn’t.

  34. “There’s no reason Kaepernick couldn’t both engage in protests and play in the NFL.”

    But there are reasons he hasn’t been able to. Hate tweets, pig socks, Castro loving and not voting have shown him up as uninformed dilettante. That all of the folks that are pumping his tires continue to ignore those things as though they didn’t happen and aren’t part of the reckoning he faces with the paying public is chief among the reasons we can’t take your argument seriously.

  35. I think Jim’s comments have already proven to be accurate. Like it or not? Kaep did not do himself any favors if his passion is to play football. These problems have been here for decades and it will take just as long to fix them. Kaep has a short window to play football. Kaep. play football and really play it well. After your career, the sky is the limit for whatever you want to do.

  36. He did not desecrate the flag. But he sure as hell wore pig socks, Castro T-Shirts, and compared cops to slave patrols.

  37. Jim…how did you feel about US track stars Tommie Smith and John Carlos, two African American athletes who won gold (Smith) and bronze (Carlos) medals in the 200m race at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City?

    For those unaware, both men stood with their fists raised high in the air during the national anthem as their way to protest racial segregation in our country. Both proudly wore badges depicting their organization “Olympic Project for Human Rights” and rightly so.

    Both men took a ton of flack for their protest. It was looked upon by whites as an insult to the US and uproar commenced immediately. “Love it or leave it” became the motto of those who disagreed with their actions.

    But in retrospect, these were two incredibly brave men who brought a very sensitive topic to light during a very hostile time in our country.

    So should these two American heroes have chosen to either run the race or fight for desegregation? Or did they use a highly viewed event as an excellent means of bringing this subject to a much broader scale?

    In my opinion, Kaepernick, as an American, has the right to protest against whatever activity he feels strongly about and he is using his highly visible employment as a way to communicate it nationally and internationally.

    Isn’t that what Tommie Smith and John Carlos did?

  38. Snowflakes won’t like the truth Jim Brown speaks. Jim brown was the greatest of all time, did real work to help truly oppressed people. Krap should listen.

  39. Snowflakes won’t like the truth Jim Brown speaks. Jim brown was the greatest of all time, did real work to help truly oppressed people. Krap should listen. He is awesome.

  40. Is this the same Jim Brown that was ripped into Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan for not being social activist? You can argue that he ripped on Michael after he had retired but that was not the case with Woods.

  41. Jim Brown was a great player and is a great American. Back in the late 60’s / early 70`s he had his AmerICan program and would bring LA gang leaders to his home to provide mentorship and guidance. This was back in the Watts riots period when activism was sorely needed. Much respect.
    Kap has good intentions / message but needs to modify his methods if he gets the chance. His unfortunate position is while he can control his activist activities, he now cannot control his NFL destiny.
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    The difference between Jim Brown’s activism and Kaepernicks or most activism today is the lack of respect that todays activists have for the country and anyone who disagrees with them. Jim Brown shows respect even if you might not agree with everything he believes. Today’s generation was not taught to respect things like past generations were. They do not communicate like people in the past with all the texting rather than talking to other people and this present generation is way more into self than other generations. Respect to Jim Brown, those of you downing him for his opinion are not half the man he is, learn to show respect to those who disagree with you, you may get some back.

  42. How many people, who don’t live on a military installation, play the national anthem and unfurl the flag before work? Heck, I can tell you now that on any given base, no one runs out of whatever building to stand for morning or evening colors. People avoid it like the plague…especially overseas because you have to go through two national anthems. If the flag and anthem are so sacred, why are they observed during sporting events? These aren’t activities of national importance. They’re propaganda moments. Do you know the cost and time it takes for a 10 second flyover? Why is it done? If athletes have to be the only civilians held to this standard, I vote that everyone must be subject to the anthem and standing for the flag every time they start work and because it is sacred and important, you shouldn’t get paid for that time. Why not have morning and evening colors in every town and give the local police the authority to fine you for not rendering the proper respect as laid out by the flag code. Sounds good until you realize the inconvenience of it. Eliminate this from sports because is isn’t needed. It’ll solve your angst.

  43. notwhoyouthinkitis says:

    Brown’s comments are nothing short of reprehensible. Truly disgusting.
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    Tell him to his face.

  44. mclennon99 says:
    August 25, 2017 at 5:26 pm
    Jim…how did you feel about US track stars Tommie Smith and John Carlos, two African American athletes who won gold (Smith) and bronze (Carlos) medals in the 200m race at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City?
    For those unaware, both men stood with their fists raised high in the air during the national anthem as their way to protest racial segregation in our country. Both proudly wore badges depicting their organization “Olympic Project for Human Rights” and rightly so.
    Both men took a ton of flack for their protest. It was looked upon by whites as an insult to the US and uproar commenced immediately. “Love it or leave it” became the motto of those who disagreed with their actions.
    But in retrospect, these were two incredibly brave men who brought a very sensitive topic to light during a very hostile time in our country.
    So should these two American heroes have chosen to either run the race or fight for desegregation? Or did they use a highly viewed event as an excellent means of bringing this subject to a much broader scale?
    In my opinion, Kaepernick, as an American, has the right to protest against whatever activity he feels strongly about and he is using his highly visible employment as a way to communicate it nationally and internationally.
    Isn’t that what Tommie Smith and John Carlos did?
     
    bridgeh2o says:

    No, actually it is QUITE different. Mason and Carlos protested during a time of pure civil upheavel-true systematic racism-segregated bathrooms, restaurants, buses, schools, etc. We are in a time so much removed from those times of pure systemic racism. We have INDIVIDUAL acts of racism-on both sides. The times of the 60s to now is so different. We have laws/ethics in place that have brought race relations together. Sure, some individuals will act in hate. But, as a country, we don’t have in place those systems of bigotry like we did in the 60s and prior. It’s unfortunate that the MSM would like to bait and pander to an audience to get people riled up about race. The Left can’t afford that to happen. They realize if more African Americans begin to vote Republican, as 3% more African Americans voted Republican in the last election-if that continues-the Dems will never recover. I have followed politics closely for 30 years. Dems pander to minority groups for votes. As sick as that is-it’s truth.
    So, keeping alive the MSM hysteria about race, the media cherry picks and divides the country. Purely sad……..just have to open your eyes to see it. I call it like it is: PATHETIC!

  45. Can someone please just sign him already and bury him on their depth chart so we don’t have to hear about him anymore?

  46. yourboygaryl says:
    August 25, 2017 at 5:08 pm
    Jim Brown can have several seats.

    In 1968 Jim Brown tossed his girlfriend off of a balcony. Charged w/ assault & battery & intent to murder.

    In 1985 Jim Brown was charged with raping a woman.

    In 1986 Jim Brown was charged with assaulting his live in girlfriend.

    In 1999 Jim Brown was charged with threatening a woman with violence.

    In 2000 Jim Brown is sentenced to jail for not attending domestic violence counseling

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    If he could still play he sounds like a perfect Cowboy

  47. What jim is saying is that he has a vague cause. what exactly are you protesting? Cops? Trump? Slavery? If your just saying “rights for black people” then grow an afro and kneel for the anthem as an nfl player, then you better be real good, or have some charisma. Kap has neither

  48. brothawils says:
    August 25, 2017 at 3:35 pm
    This would be a perfect ending to the story. There should be nothing else written about it.
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    No. A perfect ending to the story would be Colin Kaepernick on a team.

  49. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 25, 2017 at 4:59 pm
    “I do not disagree with someone just because they are called a civil rights activist. I hear their words and either agree or disagree…Interesting indeed.

    Interesting indeed right back at you. Please, tell us how many times you have agreed with a any statement, by anyone, supporting minority civil rights. Just one example.

    *Jim Brown 8/25/2017 There is your just one you were asking for.
    Or it could be the fact that I have spend the last 7 years assisting single mothers (usually of color) acquiring a safe place to live for themselves and their family. You know, adult stuff. How about you? What have you done beyond Up voting someone else’s words or actions? If you have actually taken action then good on you and more power to you, but you might want to realize you are not the only one. More to my point, unless you dislike finding homes for single mothers of color you could both appreciate some of my actions without agreeing with everything I say. Which was my original and correct point.

  50. 1) Kaepernick is not a very good QB 2) He’s a very bad pocket QB 3) Most teams would need to change their offense if the number 1 QB went down since there is only a handful of teams were he would fit in. That is the main reason that Kaepernick hasn’t been signed by any teams.

  51. yourboygaryl says:
    August 25, 2017 at 5:08 pm
    Jim Brown can have several seats.

    In 1968 Jim Brown tossed his girlfriend off of a balcony. Charged w/ assault & battery & intent to murder.

    In 1985 Jim Brown was charged with raping a woman.

    In 1986 Jim Brown was charged with assaulting his live in girlfriend.

    In 1999 Jim Brown was charged with threatening a woman with violence.

    In 2000 Jim Brown is sentenced to jail for not attending domestic violence counseling

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    1968 — charges dismissed when woman refuses to name his as assailant

    1985 — charges dismissed because of inconsistent testimony.

    1986 — charges dropped after girlfriend refuses to press charges

    1999 — his wife recanted the claim that he threatened to kill her.

    1999 — he is found guilty of hitting his wife’s car with a shovel and sentenced to 1 year of counseling. He is also given 3 years of probation, fined $1800, and given 400 hours of community service or 40 hours of a work detail.

    2000 — he is sentenced to 6 months in jail for refusing the counseling and the community service. He serves 4 months.

    Jim Brown is no angel, for sure. But we’re talking about what he said about CK, and he’s right about that. And, he’s done a lot of work with inner city kids and gang members.

  52. bridgeh2o says:

    No, actually it is QUITE different. Mason and Carlos protested during a time of pure civil upheavel-true systematic racism-segregated bathrooms, restaurants, buses, schools, etc. We are in a time so much removed from those times of pure systemic racism. We have INDIVIDUAL acts of racism-on both sides. The times of the 60s to now is so different. We have laws/ethics in place that have brought race relations together. Sure, some individuals will act in hate. But, as a country, we don’t have in place those systems of bigotry like we did in the 60s and prior. It’s unfortunate that the MSM would like to bait and pander to an audience to get people riled up about race. The Left can’t afford that to happen. They realize if more African Americans begin to vote Republican, as 3% more African Americans voted Republican in the last election-if that continues-the Dems will never recover. I have followed politics closely for 30 years. Dems pander to minority groups for votes. As sick as that is-it’s truth.
    So, keeping alive the MSM hysteria about race, the media cherry picks and divides the country. Purely sad……..just have to open your eyes to see it. I call it like it is: PATHETIC!

    You make a great point however mine was to point out that the means of expressing their protest were quite similar in that both Kap and the 1968 men used their exposure to a broad range of people as a means of bringing their protest to light…not what they were protesting against was the same.

  53. Some people an actually walk and chew gum at the same time.

    Funny how those agreeing with this comment think it was OK for Teblow to spread his “religion” and play football.

    Hypocrites.

  54. Ok, so it’s so-so 2nd or 3rd string QB if he keeps his nonsense off the field and locker room or dedicate his time to being a socially unaware justice warrior? Somehow Collin and his nutball girlfriend will probably go the let’s try to start a race war route and drive the final nail in to his nfl career. Brown is right and Collin will not listen which will lead to Collin screwing up this situation to the point where it is unfixable. Good luck Collin, there are plenty of good people that are slowly making the US and their local communities a better place without wiping their xxx on the anthem/flag. You reep what you sow Collin.

  55. Kaepernick did not, of course, desecrate the American flag. He knelt in a silent protest during the anthem. Several other players joined him and have managed to keep their jobs in the NFL. There’s no reason Kaepernick couldn’t both engage in protests and play in the NFL. It’s odd that Brown, of all people, thinks the two are mutually exclusive.
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    Other players that protest are good at playing football. You also ALWAYS fail to mention that Kaep projects his protest on the Country of the United States of America. He protested in a way that places blame for wrong doing on every American. The majority of Americans do not discriminate against people based upon race. There are surely more good cops than bad. Just like there are more good football players than bad. Kaep chooses to put on a show that glorifies himself and while doing so places blame on everyone…whether he means to or not. That’s what people mean when they say he chose the wrong avenue or outlet.

  56. Just because YOU don’t think kaepernick didn’t desecrate the flag and anthem, doesn’t means millions of others week the same way.

  57. Please stop with the narrative that the people just have a problem with his anthem protest. We have a problem with the pig socks, stating USA and the confederacy are the same, paying tribute to Castro and his stating he didn’t vote because he saw no difference in the candidates. The people who are informed on the subject aren’t buying what you and the rest of PFT are selling.

  58. And what about Marshawn..it’s better that he has sat for years because hedoesn’t care or Kap who kneeled for a social injustice. Come on.

  59. look… no one really cares what the supporting cast is doing during the national anthem; but the face of the franchise, well that’s a different ball game.

  60. If you obtain stature by dedication and success as an athlete it can provide a platform for any desired cause. He has proven very little as as an athlete and leader and his spoken word and outward actions have not been accurate or articulate. Jim Brown has a factual grip on the issues and is not trying to push an unrealistic idea based upon conformation bias.

  61. filthymcnasty3 says:
    August 25, 2017 at 9:45 pm
    Mohamed Ali managed to handle them both pretty well.
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    Ali wasn’t an employee of anyone except himself. He competed solo (with a large number of people behind him) and was an employer, not an employee.

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