Browns wanted Joe Haden to take a pay cut

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The sudden decision of the Browns to cut veteran cornerback Joe Haden came after the Browns tried to trade him. It also came after the Browns tried to get him to take less money.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Browns asked Haden to reduce his $11 million base salary before releasing him. Haden, obviously, declined.

He exits with $4 million in guaranteed money, but the Browns likely won’t be on the hook for that amount. The belief is that Haden will end up with more money elsewhere than what the Browns offered on a reduced deal.

Like all players with four or more years of service released before the trade deadline, Haden instantly becomes a free agent. He can pick any team he wants. He could be inclined to pick a team that is likely to do something he’s never done — play in the postseason.

53 responses to “Browns wanted Joe Haden to take a pay cut

  1. The recent injuries are a concern but hey, anymone know of a gambler in the NFL who needs help in the backfield?

    Jerry on Line 1.

  2. I love Joe and appreciate all that he’s done in Cleveland, but this was the right move. He’s not the player he once was and Cleveland needs to focus their funds on the young talent they are acquiring to rebuild this program.

  3. Giants should call and see if the price is right. With Apple’s ankle banged up, this would keep DRC in the slot, where he was a monster.

    Cutting Haden for money makes the Osweiler contract even more laughable. He’ll be playing as many snaps as I will this season!

  4. He could be inclined to pick a team that is likely to do what he’s never done – play in the post season. And that team may get to see something they’ve never seen before – a cornerback getting torched on every single play.

  5. Ask the Steelers (Justin Gilbert) and Patriots (Barkevous Mingo) what happens when you think you’re stealing a good player from the Browns and find out he really DOES stink. Oh please Steelers, do it again. I would love to see Kizer target Hayden about 50 times come week 1.

  6. Terrific human being, but no longer a good football player unfortunately. For everyone posting here begging your team to sign him, I would be careful what you wish for. He was absolutely torched this pre-season to go with two successive years of being one of lowest rated CBs in the league. At some point, you are what your record says you are.

  7. Any chance this move was made due to the tremendous amount of sheckles the Browns need to pay Brock Osweiler?

    Is the salary dump due to that or is it all just based on diminishing skills?

  8. Take all you can, Joe. You ain’t what you used to be and this is likely the last shot at a big payday.

  9. wib22 says:
    August 30, 2017 at 9:31 am
    Come to new england, where the gm will pay you less than your worth causing collusion

    Collusion means you are covertly working with others for a common goal. I am willing to bet that there is not even one team working with the Patriots to help them win another SB. Vets go to NE for less than market money for a legitimate chance at SB {Bennett and Long}. Patriots increase player value so they move on and get their money after ring {Bennet and Long}. The system won’t work forever but as long as they Belichick they should stay with it

  10. 49ersfury says:
    August 30, 2017 at 9:46 am
    A pay cut to stay with the Browns? Best joke I heard this year. 😂😂😂
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    …said 49ersfury.

  11. gmen6820 says:
    August 30, 2017 at 9:37 am
    Giants should call and see if the price is right. With Apple’s ankle banged up, this would keep DRC in the slot, where he was a monster.

    Cutting Haden for money makes the Osweiler contract even more laughable. He’ll be playing as many snaps as I will this season!

    That tells me you don’t understand the Osweiler trade at all. Had they been able to get some trade value for Haden (i.e., draft picks for young, talented players without the injury history) they would have done so. This wasn’t a pure money play. Osweiler’s contract was *designed* for him to be traded or released, $16m for an extra high value pick so that they can build that youth value talent around other youth talent.

    Haden was a beast. He isn’t a beast anymore, so they ask him to take a pay cut so that they are paying for the value he brings to the field, not to save money overall. The article is a little misleading but you might want to study the GM side of the game before making comments like this. Just sayin.

  12. He could be inclined to pick a team that is likely to do something he’s never done — play in the postseason.
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    He contributed to never “playing in the postseason.” Make him the lead man in the secondary on your team and he once again won’t be playing in the postseason.

  13. 4rings4brady says:
    August 30, 2017 at 10:15 am
    Any chance this move was made due to the tremendous amount of sheckles the Browns need to pay Brock Osweiler?
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    Yep. That $16M hit from Osweiler has topped out the Browns and they are now taking out loans to pay the roster. No money left to even pay the grounds crew. So nothing left to do but release Joe Haden.

  14. wib22 says:
    August 30, 2017 at 9:31 am
    Come to New England, where the gm will pay you less than your worth causing collusion
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    Collusion??? You should probably not use words you don’t understand.

  15. When he got that deal, it was even strange then because while he was good, he was never in the league with the Petersons and Richard Shermans of the world. Since that deal, he’s been just north of awful. There are times when the second or third receivers on other teams are working him, let alone the #1 guy.

  16. When he got that deal, it was even strange then because while he was good, he was never in the league with the Petersons and Richard Shermans of the world.
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    He signed his deal in 2014, the same year Peterson was getting burned left and right.

  17. Whoever lands this guy, beware, he takes a lot of pass interference penalties pulling on jerseys because of getting beat most of the time !!!

  18. bigbenisabigbaby says:
    August 30, 2017 at 10:44 am
    4rings4brady says:
    August 30, 2017 at 10:15 am
    Any chance this move was made due to the tremendous amount of sheckles the Browns need to pay Brock Osweiler?
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    Yep. That $16M hit from Osweiler has topped out the Browns and they are now taking out loans to pay the roster. No money left to even pay the grounds crew. So nothing left to do but release Joe Haden.
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    I guess you are allowed to spew whatever nonsense you want, but if anyone is interested in the facts, the Browns are actually $39,000,000 under the cap even with Osweiler on the team.

  19. aarons444 ,

    Peterson, who I was not a fan of coming out of college, has never been toasted “left and right.” I live here in Phoenix, so I hear exactly what the coaches say about those plays, not what you think you know, and rarely did Bowles or Arians, who isn’t above ripping any player, blame him for those blown coverages. At no time during Haden’s career has he been on the same level with those top corners in the league. Just because the past brain freeze trust in Cleveland thought so doesn’t make it true.

  20. Peterson, who I was not a fan of coming out of college, has never been toasted “left and right.”
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    I remember Julio Jones absolutley DESTROYING him in a game that season.

    In late December that year, QBs were piling up a 113 rating on him, he had allowed 8 touchdows, and 50 corners had allowed fewer receptions.

    He was terrible that season.

    Every player has a bad game here and there, but I can’t think of another A-level corner who played poorer in a single year.

  21. At no time during Haden’s career has he been on the same level with those top corners in the league.
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    Hayden was a 2nd team All-Pro in 2013.

    That doesn’t put him on Shermans level, but he was worth the contract he received in 2014.

  22. Steelers should be on the phone trying to sign him. The way I look at it a regressing Haden is still better than most of the CB’s on their roster especially Gay.

  23. 1) this is a tough business, make sure that when your rookie contract is up you get as much bonus money as you can in the next deal. 2) Gregg Williams is savage. This quote that Haden said from OTAs should make players shutter – “he told me, if you didn’t play through your injury, i would tell them to get you out of here”. You better not be injured on Gregg’s defense.

  24. BayAreaBrownsBacker says:
    August 30, 2017 at 9:50 am
    Ask the Steelers (Justin Gilbert) and Patriots (Barkevous Mingo) what happens when you think you’re stealing a good player from the Browns and find out he really DOES stink.
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    Mingo was a 5th round pick trade the Pats made primarily for ST value which is where he played most of the time in NE. They did play him on D some to see if he had value there, and he didn’t. But he was decent as an ST value. Likely why they traded a low rounder for Flowers as well.
    Hayden is a high character guy. I do hope he has the chance to go somewhere and rebuild his career. And I never blame a single player for not wanting to take a pay cut. Willie McGinest bleeds silver, red and blue and even he wouldn’t take one. I never held that against him for one second.

  25. The bottom line, Haden was going to be cut next week. He is the last of the pay check collectors of years past. If some team signs him, they will see why the Browns cut him. I don’t feel sorry for him at all. He has made many millions of dollars from the Browns. The Browns most certainly were ripped off on this guy.

  26. aarons444 ,

    Hmm, take your word or the coaches word when they were asked specifically about the numbers you cite, which both Arians and Bowles said those numbers were wrong in how they play their scheme if you’re going to attribute the blown plays to someone. This is a tough one. Julio Jones, the best receiver in football destroyed him. You don’t say. That definitely makes him a bum. As for him making the All Pro second team once, I think that kind of makes my case for what I originally said. He was never on those top guys’ level.

  27. “Luckiest man alive. To get out of there when he did, is a miracle.”

    Russian Breadmaker, actually, couldn’t be worse timing for him. The team is about a season away from being a serious threat. So, no, it is far from lucky when you consider pretty much the entirety of his career was playing for terrible teams and right when that is about to change he is cut. But it’s easy to make fun of the Browns isn’t it? Especially when you don’t pay any attention to what is going on with the team.

  28. Joe has been great, made the pro bowl a couple of times, always backed Cleveland, the team and the city….from giving to chairities, going to Cav’s games, and events. My heart is a little heavy today…I will always remember the game he held AJ Green to 19 yards(aj was having a great season untill joe), but he has “lost a step” I watched it…..and in the back of my mind, I knew this day was near. Best off Luck to a great person.

  29. realkelevra says:
    August 30, 2017 at 1:18 pm
    “Luckiest man alive. To get out of there when he did, is a miracle.”

    Russian Breadmaker, actually, couldn’t be worse timing for him. The team is about a season away from being a serious threat. So, no, it is far from lucky when you consider pretty much the entirety of his career was playing for terrible teams and right when that is about to change he is cut. But it’s easy to make fun of the Browns isn’t it? Especially when you don’t pay any attention to what is going on with the team.
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    Ladies and Gentleman- the 10th anniversary edition of “You don’t realize how close the Browns are because you don’t pay attention” comment.

    Apparently Browns fans believe that they are the only people who pay attention and are smart enough to realize the boundless potential of their super talented team.

  30. lukedunphysscienceproject says:
    August 30, 2017 at 11:37 am
    I guess you are allowed to spew whatever nonsense you want, but if anyone is interested in the facts, the Browns are actually $39,000,000 under the cap even with Osweiler on the team.

    Thanks Luke – didnt know the Browns cap situation. now I do. and sorry for the stupid stillerfan response. I was serious in my question, so much appreciated the straight answer.

  31. realfootballfan,

    Don’t take my word.

    Take Petersons, he had to come up with excuses for his bad play (diabetes)

    Or hit the web. SI, Sporting News, ESPN, PFF.. there is plenty of info documenting just how bad he was that year.

    .. Kirk Cousins pitched a perfect game against him in 2014. Nevermind Julio Jones.

  32. The Browns should honor the contract! Isn’t that what posters scream at players when they want to renegotiate?

  33. “The team is about a season away from being a serious threat.” Posted by realkelevra.

    In reference to the Browns, that might be both the funniest and saddest comment I’ll ever read.

  34. realkelevra – i understand the reasons for optimism, but i’ve heard that “the Browns FINALLY got back on track” stuff so many times over the years, you’ll have to forgive people for not believing it until we see it. They still have a LONG ways to go and as we’ve seen a million times, it’s so easy for everything to go wrong

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